I use a CRT with a resolution of 1200x1600 and 50Hz in more cinematic games and 1024x786 at 85Hz in more speedy games. Works just fine, you just got to make sure that the gpu is outputting the video signal at the right vga frequency. It has basically no input lag and I got it for free, so I'm pretty pleased with it.
2:36 In regards to using a traditional pc + monitor setup, be sure to set the Output Dynamic Range option from Limited to Full in that same menu (you'll have to do this for each monitor by clicking the icons at the top of this page). A lot of monitors seem to default to Limited which results in washed out colors, but setting it to Full fixes this issue (also keep in mind you'll have to do this every time you update your drivers if you do a clean install)
I used crt my entire life then I jumped to lg oled tvs in like 2014 now I use a sony ag9 soon a90j and I adore the experience but I didn't know the text artifacting was common I just assumed it's a res issue
yeah, i thought for the longest time too till i got a 4k LG hand down in 2016, and used as a monitor. Turns out it was a HDMI bandwidth issue. If i wanted accurate colors, i just had to bring it back to 30fps. Then I also discovered my pioneer plasma tv had a PC mode. All the modern cast devices look better now.
A90j is a waste of money. Purchase the 77 inch a80j for the best bargain. The a90j actually provides too much peak brightness in some instances; causing detail to be lost in HDR content.
I bought a 55" 4k tried to use it as monitor, but that really doesn't work. Colors and resolution are not good enough. IMO Maximum for a 4k resolution is 42" , above that it should be 5k. I do have 2x 42" monitors on my work desk.
I'm glad you didn't say show them this video.. they'll most probably start developing serious vision issues unless they are taking a lot of time for eye care on their off time
Get ready to enjoy that sweet, sweet BURN IN BABY!! Love OLED for movies but for PC use it's a REALLY bad idea (as I have the 55" version and it's burned to pieces)
@Yontek Nohara Yeah, that'll work for a while then it'll burn baby burn. I too LOVE OLED for black levels and for movie viewing I will never go back but after destroying an OLED already (and doing everything possible for that not to happen) I'll NEVER waste one with a PC again. It. Will. Burn. Just a matter of time, that's all.
I didn't have subs turned on for 2 years when I bought my 5.2 Yamaha sound system, didn't know they had their own power buttons. Didn't know for 7 years in sonic 3 in the casino map you only had to push up or down to make the red spinny thing go up and down, I legit spent years trying to jump up and down to make it go low enough and didn't find out until it was emulated on PC and seen sonic snowboarding for the first-time blew my mind. It's similar I guess to me going into new workplaces and finding people not having drivers installed on their laptops so external displays don't work properly or sound doesn't go through or yeah screen mode isn't set to full it's set to like 16:9 or auto when their screens don't run at 16:9, had a few old projectors freeze up trying to display higher resolutions than it can support and people didn't know they could just extend instead of duplicate for perfect picture quality and allows them to do work while showing a video to the class etc. People and some tech is just frustrating lol
Been using my pc on a TV for a decade now, never had any problems. Love how there's seemingly more real estate on the desktop, so much room for activities!
@@TheBritishPatriot I feel you are more into Single Player Games which can be more viable with TV screens but Multiplayer Games especially Competitive ones is just stupid to play on a TV Screen but at the end of the day, you do you.
@@rikumajumder1558 It's not like it used to be, a lot of TV's today have input lag imperceptible from gaming monitors of the same refresh rate(I've measured and compared myself with a high speed camera). Unless you need more than 120hz then the newer LG OLED's(C8 and newer) for example work excellent for FPS games, they also have near instantaneous response times, crazy good colors, blacks and HDR which you simply can't get out of a backlit panel
I have three Displays hooked up to my PC, 1 24" inch monitor, a 15" monitor, and a 43" TV. I game on the TV when I want to sit on the couch. However, I've been doing a bit of VR (Rift S) so my Displays are kinda useless right now.
I've been using TVs for my work PC since I started having eye strain issues sitting too close to a typical desktop monitor. My first PC TV was a 32" LED TV that my family upgraded from. I started sitting about a 1.5meters away from then on. I eventually upgraded to a 42/44" (can't remember exact size) that my family also upgraded from that used to be the main living room TV. I then moved a bit further back. It was 2 years ago that I finally bought (instead of a "hand me down") my first main TV PC Setup which is a 55" while still retaining the same viewing/working distance. Main reason for the upgrade was color accuracy and the fringing you mentioned. I "lived" with it on the 42/44" TV for a few years until I upgraded my main work PC and was outputting around 1440p now. I used to only output to 1080p/1080i only. And no matter what I did to the settings, the old reliable 42/44" just wasn't able to correct. My work setup is now a 55" main TV monitor with a 2nd 32" inch TV hanging above it as a secondary extended display output. 32" is mainly for playing RUclips, Spotify Web Player or Netflix while I work. No issues with fringing on either.
I'm running an old flat screen from 2009. It was the first thing I plugged my PC into it was my first flat screen and I still use it to this day, just not as my main display. Its not even 1080p.
ive a 1080 tv from around then too, I still use it cause ive an 2006 MacBook Pro thats screen doesn't work but the dvi output still works and it cant handle newer panels, ive loads of music, roms and it runs xp for old games too
When it comes to the image edge being outside of the screen, you can often fix this by changing the input type to "PC", "Computer" or "Game". Every TV is different, but usually you will go to either the source option or the input settings. Find the input channel you are trying to use such as "HDMI 1" and there is probably an option to change the input type. It's the first thing I look for as it seems to address multiple issues relating to the colour and sharpness, but the most noticeable fix is that the image matches the screen size without having to resize anything manually or change the aspect ratio.
Number one thing to remember when plugging a pc into most tvs is to use the hdmi port marked (arc). Yes I am aware that it should only effect sound. However this port seems to have more bandwidth and if you are having trouble getting hdr to work in windows try the (arc) hdmi port.
Very good video. I've been using 2 TVs as monitors for a long time, ~15 years. 42" 1080p seems my ideal with old eyes for both work & play. I don't play multiplayer, TVs work great for single player action like latest Far Cry etc-can't beat those panoramic vistas, or larger heads to aim at :)
I love using my TV as a second monitor it's great to have a clock or picture slideshow or spotify on while working or gaming on my monitor. For more comfortable gaming/movie watching I keep a wireless keyboard with a trackpad and a wireless controller on the coffee table
Show much respect for Vizio that they would sponsor a video talking about how TVs aren’t the best option for gaming to a gaming audience, but still bring positive informative information for all kinds of different TVs
I use a Samsung 55 inch curved 4k 4:4:4 etc. TV. I have not been gaming lately, but when I do, there is a setting on the TV for gaming that eliminates most of the processing to improve the response. Text is sharp and clean. My viewing distance is 24 inches, if I lean in, I can start to see the pixels at about 11 inches. If I watch a movie or TV show, I roll back to around 3 1/2 to 4 feet.
I've been gaming at 1440p @ 120 hz on my 55" Samsung Q70 which only cost about $800 a year ago, and it's a pretty fantastic experience. The main problem was really that the experience was not great out of the box because the TV was not developed with use as a PC monitor as the primary focus. But if you're willing to research and calibrate a bit, plenty of modern TV's are excellent PC monitors. That's especially true if cost is an issue and your other option is spending $2000+ almost purely to save the time of a bit of calibration. Just remember that a PC monitor is going to prevent you from streaming at 4K HDR from most services because of HDCP issues, so when you're using your TV for that purpose, use the built-in apps for things like Netflix and Amazon if your goal is the best picture quality available. On that note, you're going to have this same problem if you DO spend $2000 on a high end large gaming monitor......and those aren't going to necessarily have built-in streaming apps to avoid the issue like any modern smart TV does.
I have been running this budget AF 65" Haier branded costco TV for 3 years now.. and the colour is finally mint, no artifacts, and I've got it to 75 hz, thanks guys!
I connect my pc to my tv in my living room because I find couch gaming so much more enjoyable than sitting at a desk. And then I use a corsair lapdog to play games but that's a pain in the ass sometimes
1:11 to 1:17 And Wendell called it ( as an opinion that is) years ago with any UHD rez monitor ( as far as NOT needing to adjust dpi scaling/setting to increase size of text and other items) being about 40 inches to be the perfect size with 32 inches pushing the border line for about too small.
Not sure if anyone has already mentioned it, but you forgot one important setting. Find "sharpness" in the TV's picture settings and set it to neutral. Some TVs have this at 0, some have it in the middle. If the picture gets blurry, you're too low. Voila, those pesky halos around text and other small details are gone and you get less eyestrain! :)
@@nikoskabbadias Happy I could help! It's one of those things I don't understand why it's even on by default, it's really only useful for upscaled content.
I've been using a big screen TV since 2011 as my main monitors. I'm working from a sofa and don't need a desk anymore. It's way better than the cramped posture you assume with your body, as well as being easier on the eyes since they don't have to focus on an object that is so small and so close as they would have while viewing a regular monitor.
I did a 2 year stretch with a 55" 4K TV on a big kitchen table acting as a desk. So I could set the TV further back than a regular desk would allow. Now to cut a long story short I now use a monitor and I love my monitor. Playing racing games and some arcade games was amazing on a TV in front of your face but many more games were just awkward. Often the corners were too far away to see readouts and read text. Now I have a very curved monitor and I really appreciate the edges being close thanks to the curve. I think for me at least a 34" ultrawide is about as good as it gets, curved of course. You can have 4K zoomed in a bit with windows so text isn't so tiny. It works great, but I feel I'm at the limit of where I'm just moving my eyes. It might not seem like moving your head a little is a big deal but once you've moved it 1000 times, you'll see how old and even painful it can get.
Been using a TV as my PC's monitor since 2010. First on a 46 inch 1080P display, then upgraded to a 65 inch 4K display in 2016, and finally a 75 inch 4K display in 2020. Using the calculator I already sit right around the sweet spot, which is a metre and a half away from the display! I also use game mode and RGB out with full range. And my TV supports HDR so I use KMPlayer with madVR to play movies automatically at the correct refresh rate and pass HDR signal to the display. Before I had an LCD TV, I would hook up my CRT TV to my PC as an external monitor to watch movies and TV shows on using Windows Media Center.
I guess I should add I employ 2 side monitors as well at 27 inches. This is useful for watching multiple sports at once, or gaming fullscreen with a youtube video on the side screen.
Ive been using a tv as my monitor for years now and I love it. I sit on a recliner and play single player games for the most part so its always been perfect for me. I picked up a Vizio MQ855 specifically because it was a 4k 60hz tv with VRR at a very decent price. I only wish I had the scratch for a P series tho :p
I've been using the LG CX as a monitor for a few months now and it has been utterly amazing. To make sure I don't sit too close, the TV is mounted on a stand a few inches away from my desk which is pretty deep to begin with. I haven't had any problems with posture or eye strain.
Usually those had a little input lag anyways because of the HDMI to RGB circuitry needed. Still nice as long as its not the horrible widescreen ones which were super smudgy in the edges.
I have a sony trinitron crt as my secondary monitor, works damn well, has great colors, and response time. only problem was, I needed a hdmi to composite converter. But that wasnt too hard to get
How is the input lag with one of those converters. My gtx 970 that actually had analogue output through dvi but it broke so now I have to buy either a converter or a new secondary gpu.
@@catorb6607 sadly, ever since switching to new gpu with no analog. It has been a bit slower:( still a great monitor for watching RUclips while playing some games though:)
@@skeledog1942 guess I'm going to have to buy a gtx 980 at some point (they're soooo expensive right now though) I tried using a 550ti but they're just way too weak. That sucks
@@catorb6607 there may be some very expensive high quality converters that could do it well, although yeah, I would say you would want an anolog output card to get the best experience. Would be nice if Nvidia made an optional VGA connection on their cards (like on the gt710)
@@skeledog1942 I miss upscaled emulation that actually looks good. I can't think of a way to explain why crts look better to play games. It looks pretty awful compared to a decent LCD for displaying small text, but playing a game and it feels like it adds so much depth to the image. Also, the scaling benefits that make some of my favorite games from like 99-05 look not terrible. Just another reason to hate GPU shortage
Since my day job is web development, I've been using a 43" 4K monitor for several years now. It removes the need for multiple HDMI outputs for multi-monitor work since it's the equivalent of 4 1080p monitors. Any relatively decent laptop can output 4K these days. It's also a lot cheaper than 4 individual monitors. And I can size things however I want them.
@@dasa2344 yeah I did that, but as others have said they always say links in the description and don't put them. If they're not going to put them just stop saying it.
I have a 7+ year 32" Acer Monitor/TV that was my primary display for quite a few years. It is really a monitor first and has a tuner built in. 1080p and it still gives great picture, I wish I could find a modern equivalent of it. It is still used as a bedroom TV to this day.
Been using TV as my only monitor for 5 years. Had 49'' now 65''. Wireless kb/m for work and browing. Wireless controller for gaming. Desk on wheels and sofa bed on wheels, make it office time in the day, game time in the night.
I use a 43” 4K display on my desk, it’s amazing for juggling applications and looks great when I play easier to run games. And of course watching movies and shows are way better. First two days I had awful eye strain and headaches but it went away
I'm using our ols 32" flatty as a monitor. Used a VGA to HDMI cable because that's what I had. It worked, but it was fuzzy and the res was a bit off. Ordered a DisplayPort to HDMI cable and now it looks better than when it was just a TV.
I've been gaming on TV's for over a decade, granted I'm not doing super high refresh rate stuff or competitive online stuff, but I've never run into any issues with lag or color. I can only assume I've just gotten lucky with the two TVs I've used for it in that time as not having any of the bizarre features that would interfere. I started doing this because I've got an injured back and I can't sit in an upright chair at a desk without pain so having a reclining chair I can sit back at a distance has been a godsend.
For the longest time, I wasn't able to use my laptop with HDMI on my TV. So I used VGA. With your tips about the compression and settings. I tried it out and got it working. Thank you for fixing issues I had didn't even know could be fixed!
Coincidentally watching this on an older Vizio television (Model E320-B0) my PC is hooked up to. Even though I recently had to replace its LED backlighting strips after they burnt out, I haven't really had any image problems with it. I don't run games above 1080p 60FPS, I sit about 4ft away from the screen at maximum. It has some image settings for computer use and a low latency gaming mode. Chroma subsampling test I just did seems to show that it's displaying colors correcting with minimal to no fringe.
I've been using a 55" 4K OLED from LG for my monitor for almost a year now and I love it. I run it at 1440p 120hz. I'm using a 42" deep kitchen island counter top for my desk because sitting any closer than that felt too close, but 42" feels pretty much perfect.
I sit ~ 2ft away from my 47" LG Quantum Dot display. (This blows away my Mega Ultra Wide 47" Samsung I have which has been collecting dust in the basement for a year) It can do 4k, but 1440p is what it should be for. It's perfect for me to where don't have to move my head/neck to see everything. Love it!
I've been using a samsung led tv for my couch computer set up for the last few years. NU8000, the 55 inch or bigger versions will run in 1440p 120hz which is all I could ever ask for and I've experienced zero burn in unlike my old plasma. Text is readable, no weird scaling issues, very pleased
My colors "were"screwed and I couldn't figure out how to make it look right... Until I found that the reason I couldn't figure it out was the fact that I had to use Nvidia control panel to override the color to reference mode rather than enhanced. After doing so my tv matched my monitor perfectly. I hope this helps someone. So after a year I can safely say reference mode is best for all displays as it just shows it as it was intended. Is also seems to make even the most contradicting displays match 1:1 so big win with this one One more thing is if your using a TV as a display and it's 720p set it to 768p and for 1080p set it to 1824×1026 it looks weird in text but will fit perfectly and look just as good as tv aspect ratio is slightly off from a monitor even being 16×9
I've got a plasma from 2012. I use it in the living room for controller gaming on steam and youtube and movies and what not. Still looks amazing. I want a new OLED but can't justify it because there is nothing wrong with the plasma. Damn high quality product!
Gaming on a TV is actually not bad for the kind of games I play. I did find that RTS games are a little challenging when sitting far away from the screen due to the viewing distance. For most games, TVs work surprisingly well with RPGs, survival games, and slower paced titles but fast paced titles may be a challenge. FPS games tend to have more lag than other titles but it is not an issue when I play the story modes or multiplayer with friends with some of the games I own. Gaming on a TV, whether from the TV the PC is attached to or in another room entirely, works for my needs.
Bought that LG OLED you guys did a video on. I initially thought the size would be a problem, but I have it up against the wall and it's only slightly wider than my old ultra-wide. This is probably the best thing I've ever purchased for my gaming pc and I thank you!
Still rocking a Pioneer KURO Plasma TV with our gaming/HTPC connected via HDMI. No lag, no obvious motion artifacts, no image fade when viewed off-axis, excellent color and deep blacks. Great in winter months as it doubles as a room heater, haha.
I have been using a 32 inch 1080p TV for a display for about 10 years and I have no complaints. I do not play AAA titles but mostly MMORPG's, so my need you a high end monitor is nonexistent.
I've been using a 4k 55" tv 30" from my face for years now. It's the same thing as 4 27" 1080p screens tiled but with no borders and one mount. You learn to look at quadrants so your eyes aren't overwhelmed.
I have a cheap 42 inch TV as 4K monitor hooked up to my lenovo mini PC. Works without any issues, all enhancements turned off and verified(engineer here). Not color accurate as my calibrated Dell screen but it has wide color gamut, and overall everything looks great on it. My photos looks dope on 4K screen. And you can argue that you need 60 megapixel for photos, until you see 12 megapixel photos from a 5D classic on 4K TV. It's just flawless and can't tell apart from my 20 megapixel 6D or my 24 megapixel M50. The TV+PC is also used for retro gaming
I've been PC gaming on my tv since 2013. Currently using a TCL S4055. It's not the brightest but input lag is minimal and I have zero issues with color.
I have my base M1 Mac Mini connected to my Vizio E60 E3 using an HDMI 2.1 Cable. The TV is in my 8' x 10' bedroom (Shared accommodations) and it sits on a dresser at the foot of my bed. The TV is set to computer mode withBlack detail set to high Active Full Array is on, Clear action off, I nave Signal Noise set to high, Reduce Block Noise Currently set to low (still experimenting with this setting), Game Low Latency off, Film Mode off, and Gamma set at 2.4 . I'm really enjoying this setup so far. I plan on upgrading to an OLED TV soon.
I literally have been using THAT TV (Vizio P65-F1) for a couple years now as my monitor @1080p/120Hz. It's a great TV for gaming as well as 4K/HDR content.
I have been using TVs happily as gaming monitors for years. They are important as I do a lot of work on them too and the extra real-estate is appreciated. My newest TV/Monitor runs at A TRUE 120hz 1440. Which honestly my GPU has difficulties keeping up with.
First time when I tried to plug my laptop into my tv in order to play assassin creed black flag went horrible. Cropped display, no audio, weird artefacts and random disconnects. The second time I managed to fix the last 3 problems but took me some time to do so. After watching this video I know how to fix the cropped display problem now. Thanks!
james directly spoke to me in this video lmao. i have a crt as my third monitor, with a big ass 4k tv being my second. thankfully my 1080 has a dvi output port that i can slap a simple dvi to vga port and play my retro games in crispy ass 480p as god intended 👏
Running a 55" 1080p Sanyo DP55441as a monitor, and the points you touched on I had already done with my setup. Been using it for 6 months and everything is going great, way better than the dual HP w2007's. Thanks for the post.
you should've stated the rule-of-thumb that the perfect viewing distance from a monitor is sitting at a distance equal to three times the diagonal length of the monitor. 1:15
Wow! Thank you for this. Just unboxed a new HiSense TV to use as an extended monitor, and the "input lag" was really frustrating to me. Thanks so much for suggesting to check the TVs picture settings. Enabling "Game Mode" resolved the issue 100%. EXCELLENT VIDEO! TY!!🎉
I have been using a 55nano866 from LG (4k/120hz/HDR) as monitor with a 6900xt RedDevil and is great for youtube, movies, 4K gaming. So far it been a great experience!
Apologies for forgetting the retina display calculator in the video description. It's there now - thanks for letting us know.
some betrayals are unforgivable :(
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Lol it's down. Probably can't handle the traffic generated from this video
Don't know when it happened, but I'm diggin' the new logo!
where is it ????
So, where is the link In the description?
Requires an additional paywall/segway
This has been fixed. Thanks for letting us know!
@@techquickie Could you tell where the link is?
And is that a new profile picture?
@@techquickie
Without a VPN, vizio[dot]com somehow redirects to viziosoundbar[dot]uk which is blocked by web security.
LIE-nus
I use a VR headset for online school lmao. I use the seethrough mode and virtual desktop
I think this is totally the future. Why buy multiple big expensive monitors if you can just put on one vr headset and use virtual monitors.
Yeah I use OVR toolkit on my pimax 8k+ with dual monitors
"online school" ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
@@daniel_960_ why use those big heavy and dorkey VR headsets when i could just put this little chip in your brain?
@@joey9511 after that Supergirl season?
I use a CRT with a resolution of 1200x1600 and 50Hz in more cinematic games and 1024x786 at 85Hz in more speedy games. Works just fine, you just got to make sure that the gpu is outputting the video signal at the right vga frequency. It has basically no input lag and I got it for free, so I'm pretty pleased with it.
2:36 In regards to using a traditional pc + monitor setup, be sure to set the Output Dynamic Range option from Limited to Full in that same menu (you'll have to do this for each monitor by clicking the icons at the top of this page). A lot of monitors seem to default to Limited which results in washed out colors, but setting it to Full fixes this issue
(also keep in mind you'll have to do this every time you update your drivers if you do a clean install)
I used crt my entire life then I jumped to lg oled tvs in like 2014 now I use a sony ag9 soon a90j and I adore the experience but I didn't know the text artifacting was common I just assumed it's a res issue
there is no problems only solutions
yeah, i thought for the longest time too till i got a 4k LG hand down in 2016, and used as a monitor. Turns out it was a HDMI bandwidth issue. If i wanted accurate colors, i just had to bring it back to 30fps.
Then I also discovered my pioneer plasma tv had a PC mode. All the modern cast devices look better now.
A90j is a waste of money. Purchase the 77 inch a80j for the best bargain. The a90j actually provides too much peak brightness in some instances; causing detail to be lost in HDR content.
Tell this to the cs go pros that sit 1 cm away from thier monitors lol
Correction 000.000.000.000.000.000.000.1 cm
I bought a 55" 4k tried to use it as monitor, but that really doesn't work. Colors and resolution are not good enough. IMO Maximum for a 4k resolution is 42" , above that it should be 5k.
I do have 2x 42" monitors on my work desk.
Device just dropped 40 kills against liquid and he's basically licking the monitor, leave us alone it works
I'm glad you didn't say show them this video.. they'll most probably start developing serious vision issues unless they are taking a lot of time for eye care on their off time
@@larsradtke4097 lol I have a 55” 1080p tv
Me who literally just ordered a LG CX48 OLED TV as my monitor and I get this video on my feed
I got one as my new PC monitor-holy shit, man, it's a total game-changer. Your mind is gonna be blown.
google farms everyones data ofcourse it will pop up
Get ready to enjoy that sweet, sweet BURN IN BABY!! Love OLED for movies but for PC use it's a REALLY bad idea (as I have the 55" version and it's burned to pieces)
@Yontek Nohara Yeah, that'll work for a while then it'll burn baby burn. I too LOVE OLED for black levels and for movie viewing I will never go back but after destroying an OLED already (and doing everything possible for that not to happen) I'll NEVER waste one with a PC again. It. Will. Burn. Just a matter of time, that's all.
Waiting for the 40" version to come out
After 7 Years of owning my TV, my image is finally not cropped anymore. Love you guys
you....you never googled it...
@@xm1808 I looked for the real resolution of my TV, If I was scammed, never occurred to me that it was a wrong setting.
@@shriker5969 You know... This actually happens to quite a lot of people 😆
I didn't have subs turned on for 2 years when I bought my 5.2 Yamaha sound system, didn't know they had their own power buttons. Didn't know for 7 years in sonic 3 in the casino map you only had to push up or down to make the red spinny thing go up and down, I legit spent years trying to jump up and down to make it go low enough and didn't find out until it was emulated on PC and seen sonic snowboarding for the first-time blew my mind.
It's similar I guess to me going into new workplaces and finding people not having drivers installed on their laptops so external displays don't work properly or sound doesn't go through or yeah screen mode isn't set to full it's set to like 16:9 or auto when their screens don't run at 16:9, had a few old projectors freeze up trying to display higher resolutions than it can support and people didn't know they could just extend instead of duplicate for perfect picture quality and allows them to do work while showing a video to the class etc. People and some tech is just frustrating lol
James + Techquickie = Worth to watch
i have to agree
@@gradientO i won't disagree on that, Anthony always the best on his ways
Linus+Madison+any channel = Boom V Zoom
(Like batman V superman, but actually good)
Been using my pc on a TV for a decade now, never had any problems. Love how there's seemingly more real estate on the desktop, so much room for activities!
@@calholli well I'll have you know I'm a massive gamer.
@@TheBritishPatriot I feel you are more into Single Player Games which can be more viable with TV screens but Multiplayer Games especially Competitive ones is just stupid to play on a TV Screen but at the end of the day, you do you.
@@rikumajumder1558 It's not like it used to be, a lot of TV's today have input lag imperceptible from gaming monitors of the same refresh rate(I've measured and compared myself with a high speed camera). Unless you need more than 120hz then the newer LG OLED's(C8 and newer) for example work excellent for FPS games, they also have near instantaneous response times, crazy good colors, blacks and HDR which you simply can't get out of a backlit panel
I have three Displays hooked up to my PC, 1 24" inch monitor, a 15" monitor, and a 43" TV. I game on the TV when I want to sit on the couch. However, I've been doing a bit of VR (Rift S) so my Displays are kinda useless right now.
@@rikumajumder1558 that is truth.
Seeing the pixels is an advantage of having a tv on your desk, pixel perfect precision!
I was needing this episode so bad... I've used my PC on a 55 inch screen since forever and sometime was having problems
I've been using TVs for my work PC since I started having eye strain issues sitting too close to a typical desktop monitor.
My first PC TV was a 32" LED TV that my family upgraded from. I started sitting about a 1.5meters away from then on. I eventually upgraded to a 42/44" (can't remember exact size) that my family also upgraded from that used to be the main living room TV. I then moved a bit further back.
It was 2 years ago that I finally bought (instead of a "hand me down") my first main TV PC Setup which is a 55" while still retaining the same viewing/working distance. Main reason for the upgrade was color accuracy and the fringing you mentioned. I "lived" with it on the 42/44" TV for a few years until I upgraded my main work PC and was outputting around 1440p now. I used to only output to 1080p/1080i only. And no matter what I did to the settings, the old reliable 42/44" just wasn't able to correct.
My work setup is now a 55" main TV monitor with a 2nd 32" inch TV hanging above it as a secondary extended display output. 32" is mainly for playing RUclips, Spotify Web Player or Netflix while I work. No issues with fringing on either.
playing ps2 on old ass tv is really nostalgic. brings back 3rd grade memories
And they look way better. I kinda need to get a crt for my good ps2
I'm running an old flat screen from 2009. It was the first thing I plugged my PC into it was my first flat screen and I still use it to this day, just not as my main display. Its not even 1080p.
ive a 1080 tv from around then too, I still use it cause ive an 2006 MacBook Pro thats screen doesn't work but the dvi output still works and it cant handle newer panels, ive loads of music, roms and it runs xp for old games too
@@catorb6607 why the fuck would it end up in the ocean? Think for once.
it's*
Privacy Error on the affiliate link, and you didn't link the calculator as described
Yeah, the calculator isn’t there
They are always bad at updating their video description I've noticed.
For the calculator just Google "Is this Retina" and it will be the first link.
@daniel yuen nope, not just him. It redirects me to some weird company website with an invalid SSL.
When it comes to the image edge being outside of the screen, you can often fix this by changing the input type to "PC", "Computer" or "Game". Every TV is different, but usually you will go to either the source option or the input settings. Find the input channel you are trying to use such as "HDMI 1" and there is probably an option to change the input type.
It's the first thing I look for as it seems to address multiple issues relating to the colour and sharpness, but the most noticeable fix is that the image matches the screen size without having to resize anything manually or change the aspect ratio.
Thank you!!! I've been running with my picture over the edges for a long long time and this fully fixed it.
Number one thing to remember when plugging a pc into most tvs is to use the hdmi port marked (arc). Yes I am aware that it should only effect sound. However this port seems to have more bandwidth and if you are having trouble getting hdr to work in windows try the (arc) hdmi port.
Omg yes that fixed my display issues.
Bros a god
Very good video. I've been using 2 TVs as monitors for a long time, ~15 years. 42" 1080p seems my ideal with old eyes for both work & play.
I don't play multiplayer, TVs work great for single player action like latest Far Cry etc-can't beat those panoramic vistas, or larger heads to aim at :)
I just want to say thank you LTT. I watch every video, like every video, i hope with every like helps support you guys.
I made a video about this several years ago and am still using my Hisense 43" TV for gaming without a problem :)
I love using my TV as a second monitor it's great to have a clock or picture slideshow or spotify on while working or gaming on my monitor. For more comfortable gaming/movie watching I keep a wireless keyboard with a trackpad and a wireless controller on the coffee table
I do have 42" 4k monitors, they are ok. I bought a 55" TV and that doesn't work as Monitor. 42" is the fine spot for 4k
Using 2 50" 4K TVs as monitors right now on my main rig... as well as an HTPC hooked up to the 55" 4K one I use for consoles and television viewing.
Show much respect for Vizio that they would sponsor a video talking about how TVs aren’t the best option for gaming to a gaming audience, but still bring positive informative information for all kinds of different TVs
No ones gonna talk about the new logo
Ohh no they changed it, now we miss it
I use a Samsung 55 inch curved 4k 4:4:4 etc. TV. I have not been gaming lately, but when I do, there is a setting on the TV for gaming that eliminates most of the processing to improve the response. Text is sharp and clean. My viewing distance is 24 inches, if I lean in, I can start to see the pixels at about 11 inches. If I watch a movie or TV show, I roll back to around 3 1/2 to 4 feet.
I've been gaming at 1440p @ 120 hz on my 55" Samsung Q70 which only cost about $800 a year ago, and it's a pretty fantastic experience. The main problem was really that the experience was not great out of the box because the TV was not developed with use as a PC monitor as the primary focus. But if you're willing to research and calibrate a bit, plenty of modern TV's are excellent PC monitors. That's especially true if cost is an issue and your other option is spending $2000+ almost purely to save the time of a bit of calibration. Just remember that a PC monitor is going to prevent you from streaming at 4K HDR from most services because of HDCP issues, so when you're using your TV for that purpose, use the built-in apps for things like Netflix and Amazon if your goal is the best picture quality available. On that note, you're going to have this same problem if you DO spend $2000 on a high end large gaming monitor......and those aren't going to necessarily have built-in streaming apps to avoid the issue like any modern smart TV does.
I have been running this budget AF 65" Haier branded costco TV for 3 years now.. and the colour is finally mint, no artifacts, and I've got it to 75 hz, thanks guys!
I connect my pc to my tv in my living room because I find couch gaming so much more enjoyable than sitting at a desk. And then I use a corsair lapdog to play games but that's a pain in the ass sometimes
Sounds like the southpark wheel to me.
You did not pay >$100 for a thing you can build yourself for less than $5 did you?
1:11 to 1:17 And Wendell called it ( as an opinion that is) years ago with any UHD rez monitor ( as far as NOT needing to adjust dpi scaling/setting to increase size of text and other items) being about 40 inches to be the perfect size with 32 inches pushing the border line for about too small.
Not sure if anyone has already mentioned it, but you forgot one important setting.
Find "sharpness" in the TV's picture settings and set it to neutral. Some TVs have this at 0, some have it in the middle. If the picture gets blurry, you're too low.
Voila, those pesky halos around text and other small details are gone and you get less eyestrain! :)
God bless you man. For years I ve been hooking up TVs to PCs and I could never solve this problem, the sharpness setting did it. Thanks xx
@@nikoskabbadias Happy I could help! It's one of those things I don't understand why it's even on by default, it's really only useful for upscaled content.
This is why i follow the LTT channels. I always learn a solution to a problem I thought was just how it was. Thanks
"pain in the neck" I see what you did there.
Lmao
Dual 43" 4K Toshiba Fire TVs. Bloody awesome. Visual distance 4'10" to the center of one, 5'5" to the center of the other.
I've been using a big screen TV since 2011 as my main monitors. I'm working from a sofa and don't need a desk anymore. It's way better than the cramped posture you assume with your body, as well as being easier on the eyes since they don't have to focus on an object that is so small and so close as they would have while viewing a regular monitor.
I did a 2 year stretch with a 55" 4K TV on a big kitchen table acting as a desk. So I could set the TV further back than a regular desk would allow. Now to cut a long story short I now use a monitor and I love my monitor. Playing racing games and some arcade games was amazing on a TV in front of your face but many more games were just awkward. Often the corners were too far away to see readouts and read text. Now I have a very curved monitor and I really appreciate the edges being close thanks to the curve.
I think for me at least a 34" ultrawide is about as good as it gets, curved of course. You can have 4K zoomed in a bit with windows so text isn't so tiny. It works great, but I feel I'm at the limit of where I'm just moving my eyes. It might not seem like moving your head a little is a big deal but once you've moved it 1000 times, you'll see how old and even painful it can get.
New Logo? Why? Are changing managements?! I love the "Tq" simple and it reminds me of the elements.
Been using a TV as my PC's monitor since 2010. First on a 46 inch 1080P display, then upgraded to a 65 inch 4K display in 2016, and finally a 75 inch 4K display in 2020. Using the calculator I already sit right around the sweet spot, which is a metre and a half away from the display! I also use game mode and RGB out with full range. And my TV supports HDR so I use KMPlayer with madVR to play movies automatically at the correct refresh rate and pass HDR signal to the display. Before I had an LCD TV, I would hook up my CRT TV to my PC as an external monitor to watch movies and TV shows on using Windows Media Center.
I guess I should add I employ 2 side monitors as well at 27 inches. This is useful for watching multiple sports at once, or gaming fullscreen with a youtube video on the side screen.
Ive been using a tv as my monitor for years now and I love it. I sit on a recliner and play single player games for the most part so its always been perfect for me. I picked up a Vizio MQ855 specifically because it was a 4k 60hz tv with VRR at a very decent price. I only wish I had the scratch for a P series tho :p
Do you need a gpu to connect it to a pc
@@ViralV-b8n no need for GPU. but recommend GPU because tv screen is higher than monitor.
After using a cheap tv for the last year as my second work laptop display. My eyes thank you for this video.
Nothing stopping me 👀 dual screen on 47 inch & 32 inch 👀
I've been using the LG CX as a monitor for a few months now and it has been utterly amazing.
To make sure I don't sit too close, the TV is mounted on a stand a few inches away from my desk which is pretty deep to begin with. I haven't had any problems with posture or eye strain.
I found a CRT with HDMI in. It's been delightful.
Usually those had a little input lag anyways because of the HDMI to RGB circuitry needed. Still nice as long as its not the horrible widescreen ones which were super smudgy in the edges.
Vizio used to be my "go to" for budget tech, nice to see that lately they've stepped up their game and have been producing quality products.
I have a sony trinitron crt as my secondary monitor, works damn well, has great colors, and response time. only problem was, I needed a hdmi to composite converter. But that wasnt too hard to get
How is the input lag with one of those converters. My gtx 970 that actually had analogue output through dvi but it broke so now I have to buy either a converter or a new secondary gpu.
@@catorb6607 sadly, ever since switching to new gpu with no analog. It has been a bit slower:( still a great monitor for watching RUclips while playing some games though:)
@@skeledog1942 guess I'm going to have to buy a gtx 980 at some point (they're soooo expensive right now though) I tried using a 550ti but they're just way too weak. That sucks
@@catorb6607 there may be some very expensive high quality converters that could do it well, although yeah, I would say you would want an anolog output card to get the best experience. Would be nice if Nvidia made an optional VGA connection on their cards (like on the gt710)
@@skeledog1942 I miss upscaled emulation that actually looks good. I can't think of a way to explain why crts look better to play games. It looks pretty awful compared to a decent LCD for displaying small text, but playing a game and it feels like it adds so much depth to the image. Also, the scaling benefits that make some of my favorite games from like 99-05 look not terrible. Just another reason to hate GPU shortage
Bro I've been hooking up TVs to PCS since VGA thanks for the video though i would have been grateful about 5-10 years ago
Instructions unclear, 1:1 aspect ration is a square for me 😳
Instructions misinterpreted. 1:1 is my pixel aspect ratio
Since my day job is web development, I've been using a 43" 4K monitor for several years now. It removes the need for multiple HDMI outputs for multi-monitor work since it's the equivalent of 4 1080p monitors. Any relatively decent laptop can output 4K these days. It's also a lot cheaper than 4 individual monitors. And I can size things however I want them.
"We've linked a calculator in the description" why you lie to us like this?
Just search retina display calculator, it's the first link that pops up
Every video that they upload saying this doesn't have the link mentioned
@@dasa2344 yeah I did that, but as others have said they always say links in the description and don't put them. If they're not going to put them just stop saying it.
Finally a good TQ video even if it's sponsored.
Love the video!
I have a 7+ year 32" Acer Monitor/TV that was my primary display for quite a few years. It is really a monitor first and has a tuner built in. 1080p and it still gives great picture, I wish I could find a modern equivalent of it. It is still used as a bedroom TV to this day.
your sponsored link has an expired ssl certificate, lol
it doesnt even open the page its supossed to it just opens a random page
@@SzymonPmc I thought something didn’t look right
Been using TV as my only monitor for 5 years.
Had 49'' now 65''.
Wireless kb/m for work and browing. Wireless controller for gaming.
Desk on wheels and sofa bed on wheels, make it office time in the day, game time in the night.
techquickie has gotten worse, I miss the white bg and content that I would actually be interested to watch :(
I use a 43” 4K display on my desk, it’s amazing for juggling applications and looks great when I play easier to run games. And of course watching movies and shows are way better. First two days I had awful eye strain and headaches but it went away
here's a challenge: try a shaver
I'm using our ols 32" flatty as a monitor. Used a VGA to HDMI cable because that's what I had. It worked, but it was fuzzy and the res was a bit off. Ordered a DisplayPort to HDMI cable and now it looks better than when it was just a TV.
1:08 nothing of the sort. It's full of shilling links.
Thank you for the calculator, I really needed this.
Cool 😎
Waaait first comment?
you didn't even watch the video lmaooo
Yeah I agree
@@Balouxe I sure didn’t
First comment!
I have been waiting for this video for a very long time. Thanks for you knowledge. Hopefully my word documents will be legible now.
1440p is fine...
I've been gaming on TV's for over a decade, granted I'm not doing super high refresh rate stuff or competitive online stuff, but I've never run into any issues with lag or color. I can only assume I've just gotten lucky with the two TVs I've used for it in that time as not having any of the bizarre features that would interfere. I started doing this because I've got an injured back and I can't sit in an upright chair at a desk without pain so having a reclining chair I can sit back at a distance has been a godsend.
Been using TV for years, love it. No issues. Have a Sony 55" 120Hz, 16ms input lag
For the longest time, I wasn't able to use my laptop with HDMI on my TV. So I used VGA. With your tips about the compression and settings. I tried it out and got it working. Thank you for fixing issues I had didn't even know could be fixed!
Coincidentally watching this on an older Vizio television (Model E320-B0) my PC is hooked up to. Even though I recently had to replace its LED backlighting strips after they burnt out, I haven't really had any image problems with it. I don't run games above 1080p 60FPS, I sit about 4ft away from the screen at maximum. It has some image settings for computer use and a low latency gaming mode. Chroma subsampling test I just did seems to show that it's displaying colors correcting with minimal to no fringe.
James is such an excellent guy.
I've been using a 55" 4K OLED from LG for my monitor for almost a year now and I love it. I run it at 1440p 120hz. I'm using a 42" deep kitchen island counter top for my desk because sitting any closer than that felt too close, but 42" feels pretty much perfect.
I am using a Philips 4k TV (with Ambylight :-) since more than year now and I am still happy ...
I sit ~ 2ft away from my 47" LG Quantum Dot display. (This blows away my Mega Ultra Wide 47" Samsung I have which has been collecting dust in the basement for a year)
It can do 4k, but 1440p is what it should be for. It's perfect for me to where don't have to move my head/neck to see everything. Love it!
I've been using a samsung led tv for my couch computer set up for the last few years. NU8000, the 55 inch or bigger versions will run in 1440p 120hz which is all I could ever ask for and I've experienced zero burn in unlike my old plasma. Text is readable, no weird scaling issues, very pleased
1:18 What is that device he's using with the keyboard/mouse on his lap?
I bought a 50 inch TV as my main PC monitor and I will never go back to smaller again. I love it!
My colors "were"screwed and I couldn't figure out how to make it look right... Until I found that the reason I couldn't figure it out was the fact that I had to use Nvidia control panel to override the color to reference mode rather than enhanced. After doing so my tv matched my monitor perfectly. I hope this helps someone.
So after a year I can safely say reference mode is best for all displays as it just shows it as it was intended. Is also seems to make even the most contradicting displays match 1:1 so big win with this one
One more thing is if your using a TV as a display and it's 720p set it to 768p and for 1080p set it to 1824×1026 it looks weird in text but will fit perfectly and look just as good as tv aspect ratio is slightly off from a monitor even being 16×9
Thank you
I've got a plasma from 2012. I use it in the living room for controller gaming on steam and youtube and movies and what not. Still looks amazing. I want a new OLED but can't justify it because there is nothing wrong with the plasma. Damn high quality product!
Gaming on a TV is actually not bad for the kind of games I play. I did find that RTS games are a little challenging when sitting far away from the screen due to the viewing distance. For most games, TVs work surprisingly well with RPGs, survival games, and slower paced titles but fast paced titles may be a challenge. FPS games tend to have more lag than other titles but it is not an issue when I play the story modes or multiplayer with friends with some of the games I own. Gaming on a TV, whether from the TV the PC is attached to or in another room entirely, works for my needs.
Thank you guys so much! Could never quite put my finger on why the TV PC looked so weird, instantly fixed it
Bought that LG OLED you guys did a video on. I initially thought the size would be a problem, but I have it up against the wall and it's only slightly wider than my old ultra-wide. This is probably the best thing I've ever purchased for my gaming pc and I thank you!
Still rocking a Pioneer KURO Plasma TV with our gaming/HTPC connected via HDMI. No lag, no obvious motion artifacts, no image fade when viewed off-axis, excellent color and deep blacks. Great in winter months as it doubles as a room heater, haha.
Thanks James, I don't game on a TV but I like watching your Techquickies. Cheers.
I have been using a 32 inch 1080p TV for a display for about 10 years and I have no complaints. I do not play AAA titles but mostly MMORPG's, so my need you a high end monitor is nonexistent.
I've been using a 4k 55" tv 30" from my face for years now. It's the same thing as 4 27" 1080p screens tiled but with no borders and one mount. You learn to look at quadrants so your eyes aren't overwhelmed.
I have a cheap 42 inch TV as 4K monitor hooked up to my lenovo mini PC. Works without any issues, all enhancements turned off and verified(engineer here). Not color accurate as my calibrated Dell screen but it has wide color gamut, and overall everything looks great on it. My photos looks dope on 4K screen. And you can argue that you need 60 megapixel for photos, until you see 12 megapixel photos from a 5D classic on 4K TV. It's just flawless and can't tell apart from my 20 megapixel 6D or my 24 megapixel M50. The TV+PC is also used for retro gaming
I've been PC gaming on my tv since 2013. Currently using a TCL S4055. It's not the brightest but input lag is minimal and I have zero issues with color.
I have my base M1 Mac Mini connected to my Vizio E60 E3 using an HDMI 2.1 Cable. The TV is in my 8' x 10' bedroom (Shared accommodations) and it sits on a dresser at the foot of my bed. The TV is set to computer mode withBlack detail set to high Active Full Array is on, Clear action off, I nave Signal Noise set to high, Reduce Block Noise Currently set to low (still experimenting with this setting), Game Low Latency off, Film Mode off, and Gamma set at 2.4 . I'm really enjoying this setup so far. I plan on upgrading to an OLED TV soon.
I literally have been using THAT TV (Vizio P65-F1) for a couple years now as my monitor @1080p/120Hz. It's a great TV for gaming as well as 4K/HDR content.
I have been using TVs happily as gaming monitors for years. They are important as I do a lot of work on them too and the extra real-estate is appreciated.
My newest TV/Monitor runs at A TRUE 120hz 1440. Which honestly my GPU has difficulties keeping up with.
First time when I tried to plug my laptop into my tv in order to play assassin creed black flag went horrible. Cropped display, no audio, weird artefacts and random disconnects. The second time I managed to fix the last 3 problems but took me some time to do so. After watching this video I know how to fix the cropped display problem now. Thanks!
james directly spoke to me in this video lmao. i have a crt as my third monitor, with a big ass 4k tv being my second. thankfully my 1080 has a dvi output port that i can slap a simple dvi to vga port and play my retro games in crispy ass 480p as god intended 👏
Running a 55" 1080p Sanyo DP55441as a monitor, and the points you touched on I had already done with my setup.
Been using it for 6 months and everything is going great, way better than the dual HP w2007's. Thanks for the post.
you should've stated the rule-of-thumb that the perfect viewing distance from a monitor is sitting at a distance equal to three times the diagonal length of the monitor. 1:15
rocking an LG 4k TV as a monitor. Your awesome reviews helped with that decision.
Just got a LG CX 48, it is amazing as my PC monitor which I use for of course gaming, but also multimedia design for work.
I have been using a TV for years got an upgrade last year with a LG 55CX love it
Blind af and use a 65" LG CX as my daily driver. No issues and I see everything! 120hz has changed my life.
Wow! Thank you for this. Just unboxed a new HiSense TV to use as an extended monitor, and the "input lag" was really frustrating to me. Thanks so much for suggesting to check the TVs picture settings. Enabling "Game Mode" resolved the issue 100%. EXCELLENT VIDEO! TY!!🎉
i love you for making this video. older big screen so didnt know i could customize the scaling
I have been using a 55nano866 from LG (4k/120hz/HDR) as monitor with a 6900xt RedDevil and is great for youtube, movies, 4K gaming. So far it been a great experience!
Love the new logo! :)