Ski tips from Tom Gellie and Luc Neron @ Sun Peaks, Canada
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- Опубликовано: 29 сен 2024
- A simple ski tip for improving your advanced parallel turns from Level 4 CSIA instructor Luc Neron. Tom Gellie introduces a tip in the second video.
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Good Job Luc! Both you're a awesome team.
I see skier movements 10 to 15 degrees AFTER the fall line and not at the fall line. Still, perhaps the 'fall line' is the cue / action point to start movement patterns for next turn.
@@Bigpictureskiing buen trabajo chavalon
Looks like old school slalom technique, in the pre-shaped ski days, when they lifted the weight off the inside ski in the turn.
Excellent vidéo Luc...j'ai hâte que tu reviennes faire un tour au Valinouët👍
Some great demonstration of building pressure and releasing it across the fall-line.
Interesting
I get completely lost looking at ski instructors who are motionless on the hill its like watching an opera with no music. Sometimes you need t o be dramatic so that people understand the play.
I think there is nearly impossible have 100% power exist on outside ski. Only csia demonstrates this concept? Also, if the inside ski camber keeps 0 load as outside ski achieve 100%, draw a picture to see what gonna happen, it’s almost reversed curve shape. Who could explain me a bit more? Thanks
Luc releases the inside ski just prior to entering the fall line, that's what I see anyway.
so we're doing all this looking down at your skis yes? :D :D :D
Is this lifting the inside ski the same as Harbs phantom move?
I'm glad you brought that up yes Haralds Phantom move.
Luc is only lifting the inside ski to exaggerate the unloading of pressure on the inside ski to insure 100% of the pressure is loaded on the outside ski. The phantom edge is rolling on the pinkie side of the inside ski to start a direction change, a technique Luc never describes in this video.
@@gogglebro9421 hi you responded to a phantom move quip that I made. You know if they made this stuff simple. In winter at community rink I build an ice terrain park with an uphill stretch of 10 ft verticle in 70 or 80 feet. The best skating excersize you could ever do improves edges power strength balance skating backwards up the hill. No instruction no lessons no book.
@@AlpineMeister I believe it about skating up your ramp. My sking improved skating uphill to help students on the bunny slope.
@@AlpineMeister Yes, it does seem complicated. Skiing is simple to learn, but difficult to master. I consider the books and videos by Lito Tejada-Flores to present the most direct path to advanced skiing. When possible, I teach direct to parallel following Lito's progression. Keep at it.
I liked the demonstration because I relate to the foot to foot and use of the inside ski. Personally I have been using this technique for a long time. I have been skiing for 49 years and still like to take time to ski a few runs in study hall to do a few drills and become more efficient. Today’s skis have the turn built into the ski with modern side cut, turn radius and rocker.
I don't think he has this dialed in yet. Without a proactive upper body there is no tipping of the skis. 3 things ski instructors never talk about. Proactive upper body, moving the body over the skis rather than simply believing the motion of the skis does it, tipping the skis from the beginning of a turn learning how to do this at any speed. This relates to the platform and 2 footed extension at the transition which is used to become unweighted and launch the next turn. The motion of the inside foot should be moving back to start a turn this permits waste freedom. Every skier you see pushes the inside foot forward which creates blocked hips and this lessens your ability to tip a ski. We are tipping the inside ski from the little toe and the outside ski from the big toe.
So we r steering the skis down the fall line not across. So as to steer the tips of the skis at 11oclock 1oclock. Adj steering as required.
Exactly. Thx for the correction. Releasing at those points. I have noticed a huge difference in managing the forces when applying this. Thx for the reply.
Buen trabajo chavalon ya era hora
Example when we walk, that's a perfect exempple for understanding!
Luc Neron is one of the few Level 4 CSIA instructors that demonstrates an effective release from the old edges to the new when performing advanced parallel. It is refreshing to see. So what are the movements he is performing in the transition that sets him apart from most CSIA instructors? He reaches the transition with the outside leg longer than the inside leg.This is significant because it increases the pressure against that outside ski. To release he flexes or shortens his outside leg to match the flex of the inside leg. This creates a sudden release in pressure against that outside ski that causes his upper body to topple over the skis thereby switching to the new edges. He actually lifts the old outside ski after matching the flex of his outside leg to the flex of the inside leg which further causes the upper body to topple over the skis. The CSIA does not teach these movements and most of their instructors do not use them to release. Rather, they finish their turns with both legs fully flexed which eliminates most of the pressure under both skis leaving them with only one option and that is to extend both legs to release their edges. This is an inefficient movement which initially flattens the skis forcing them to pivot the skis (skid them) through most of the arc. Luc has got it right but why doesn't he describe what he is actually doing? I can only think of three reasons. He doesn't understand what he is doing (often the case with gifted athletes), or he understands but is not willing to disclose what he is doing, or he is concerned how the CSIA will react if he actually describes what he is doing. Skiers like Luc and JF to name another owe it to the skiing public and the new instructors striving to get their levels 3 and 4 to describe precisely what are the movements they are using. It should be noted that Luc is extending to release in his demonstration on flat terrain.
Hey Bill, Obviously I don't know who your experience is with, but this is exactly how the technical model of the CSIA is demonstrated. In fact Luc has been a representative skier at Interski for Canada.
Hi Bill what CSIA Level do you have?
Bill is in love with Harald Harb Pmts. have you seen Harald ski in non groomed higher speed skiing. His feet come apart and all the fundamentals of good 2 footed releases extension launching of upper body and resulting tipping of a ski result. None of the bullshit about phantom moves and creepy leg bending you described exist. It's mostly in Haralds head and it's way too complicated. I'm even recanting a comment I made a month ago Luc has an excellent demonstration style.
Bill, I believe Luc is not shy to explain his turning technique; that it was simply beyond the scope of this video. This is a typical clinic type presentation by a trainer that focuses on a single aspect of skiing.
I understand the points you make, however I disagree with your assessment.