Honestly, Brah, just get rid of those ghastly 8-year deals, as many as possible...Swayman, Macavoy, ELindholm. I'm up to see Marchand and the rest go, as well. Personally, I am not seeing just a crashed season go by,but an 8-year crash, as this sorry lot (that doesn't show up ready for camp and checks out of that many games) get better as the years roll by. A good hockey fan likes to watch good hockey. I am ready all over the same things...can't even watch this crap. Same here. Cheers!
Yes. Bruins have the pieces. Bringing in a serious two-way forward definitely could bring a spark as Charlie Coyle did coming in at winter trade deadline, and things weren't going well. (And he did bring a spark regardless of what we think of him now) But over the last month I finally figured out - this team is built for playoffs not regular season. I'm not saying they're going to get far, but with puck luck they could get further in the playoffs against some of these teams in the seven game series than single games. ManybSports pundits believed Boston Bruins were is superior team to Florida panthers. We got out coached and out muscled. Bruins stood down. Their team was built to shine in the playoffs. And they did
@ they are but how much did they mortgage two years ago thinking they were gonna go on a run it’s just you know do the best you can with what you can but stop selling the future players to get rid of anybody you mention of their new prospects would be absolutely ridiculous
@ oh I know my heart did not get sad when Deb Roesch left. They could’ve had a lot better, but it is what it is. Hopefully they do better in the future.
If you retool what is the best result? Certainly not a cup. A rebuild with a new GM is what is needed. High draft picks would also be beneficial. Like I said at the beginning of the season. This was never a coaching issue.
The only possible real huge trade bait we have is in our defense core. We can't trade Pastrnak, no one is gonna want Swayman for what he's getting paid. Looking at our defense, I cant see anyone taking on McAvoy and his 9mil a year considering his horrible output and the rest simply are not going to get us enough in return to do anything to turn our offense around. This team simply put needs some way to fix our powerplay nightmare. Fire whoever is responsible for our powerplay (whoever it is) cause we certainly have enough skilled players out there, on the 1st unit anyway. They just continue to roll out the same sad lines etc and are not trying new things. We are in most games, as always over the years but this powerplay is dragging us down. We need to fix it. Making trades out of desperation only means we get the short end of the deal.
Huge rabid Canuck fan here. Fans would be out for blood if management mishandled this. We lose any trade involving these two. Miller is our best forward hands down. Big. Mean. Fast. Canon. Runs the PP with Huggy. Ice in this guys veins. My favourite player. Petey takes heat because he hates media and interviews and gives off a bad vibe publicly. Still he is a super smart 200 ft. player with an accurate deadly shot. Amazing hands. Super crafty playmaker. Once he matures and muscles up to around 185-195 lbs. look out. For either one of these guys you would have to gut your team. They aren’t going anywhere.
Great analysis of Millsy and Pettersson. Personally I’d keep JT just because of his fire and compete level even though he is 5 years older. I would love to have McAvoy straight up for Elias.
@@karencampbell3080 Agreed. And that’s what I’m saying. The only way this works for both teams is to literally have the best player on the other team going the other way. I’m just not sure it makes much sense. Gain a top line centre. Lose a number 1 D. I would keep an elite d man nine times out of 10 personally. McAvoy may be having a tough year but you’d have to start rebuilding the team without him. Awesome player.
Elite center is more valuable than elite d. Florida won with average defence, they wouldnt have chance without barky. You can win with mediocre d but not with average center. Theres many examples. @@allenleclerc7878
Great Vlog. After 5 straight losses, I see the playoffs slipping away, and we all know the Bs are not a threat to anyone if they make the tournament. For me, question 1: does Sweeney call the shots for the trade deadline or is he dead man walking? 2: other than Pasta & Lohrei, everyone on the roster is on the market if they can bring back young talent with reasonable contracts. 3: identify and retain anyone in Providence projected as NHL caliber. 4: compiled draft choices in any moves We're only 20 months removed from the greatest regular season in NHL history, but it seems so long ago.
I would get rid a bunch of guys on this roster for Petterson. I wonder, though, if upperer management will let Sweens make any moves…..wait, you just said that while I was typing!!! Whoa
I don't think the numbers will work for a trade like this... and even if they did... i'm not sure they have the assets. On a sidenote... what is going on with the Bruins/Canucks roster swaps? It's getting weird.
We need to trade Zadorov, he’s a liability and the Canucks want him back. Also an AHL player and a 2nd. Hopefully for Petterson because he’s a good 2 way center and will compliment Pasta’s play very well. That would be the best outcome 🤞
I'd like for the Bruins to get either player, but I'm not not sure a trade is possible. I like both players, and think they'd be great in the lineup. I'd rather have Pettersson, but that is a much harder trade ($11.6M vs Miller's $8M cap hit). Any deal has to be even WRT to cap in/out as both teams are just under the cap limit. WRT to a Pettersson trade, what can you send the other way to counter his $11.6M cap hit that the Canucks would accept and the Bruins are willing to give up, and would result in a complete roster for the Bruins. My gut tells me what the Canucks would accept are not what the Bruins are willing to move. Worth a discussion by Sweeny, but doubt it's possible (and if it is would likely make the Bruin worse IMO). There was a comment you made in the vid regarding clashes due to commitment level, which is not good with Bruin brass. WRT to a Miller Trade, more doable due to cap numbers. Coyle + Frederic $7.55M. Coyle is same age as Miller, both heading towards the decline but still effective. Throw a pick in there to fluff it up, as it will save us analyzing another dumb pick in a few years anyway. But if The Canucks sad no to Zibenejad for Miller, they are not taking Coyle. Hampus and Lohrei I would not move. It's been clear this season how much the defense has missed Hampus, and Lohrei is gonna be a great defenseman for years to come.
Canucks are looking for right handed defensemen so instead of Hampus Lindholm, put Carlo and I thought Zacha but as you mentioned he has a no trade clause so come up with other forwards and prospects for Patterson. I don't know if you have to do as much as many may think, dumping Patterson's large contract would give Canucks more leeway at trade deadline salary cap wise.
Vancouver needs a solid top 4 defenseman. I don’t think we’re moving either Miller or Petey without quality defence in the trade. And I doubt a team is going to want give up that, a good centre and then also take on a big cap hit for Petterson. Personally I doubt a trade ends up happening with anyone
Great Stuff Court .. My thoughts is for the Bruins to reset in the off season , maybe move Frederick... believe this season was all about the drama in the off season with Swayman , slow start, and under performance of the players, all coaches not being at there best, and finally the players maybe believe things were so easy for them the last few years at the start of the season , they didn't have to put the work in to start the season .. overall combination of poor performance , decisions, and planning across the whole organization has lead to this situation ..
I think the Bruins are pulling a Penguins right now. They need to admit the team needs an overhaul and get after it. They just keep digging a hole chasing that inside straight with resources and cap space. They are spending like an elite team to have a mediocre team.
WEEI is reporting today that Pasta has told the team he doesn't want to be on a line with Marchand. Not only are they imploding on the ice, it's in the locker room too.
@@gregrose6915 pasta is a whiny baby who tries to go through the opponents whole team by himself just like last nite. They take it away from the baby and score a shorthanded goal which sinks the whole bench
The only way I'm ok with you guys making a deal for one of these two is if you Retain some Sallary on Z and send him back our way. as part of the deal.
they would probably be better off keeping the train wreck rolling over the bridge and admit to a rebuild from the top down. The Bruins do not have what others want or need in order to make the Bruins better this season, they end an avg .500-650 and get knocked out in the first round do we need more or any toxic players from other teams this late in the year? dont make any deals this year and hope for a better pick next year
well... I dont think anyone should be off-limits...but contractually they likely are.. likely they might be able to convince one or two to waive the NMC for Vancouver... maybe... part of that mighrt be taxes too... would love it if something could be done - Miller has quite an angry mentality which might slap a few Bruins to pull up their socks. Definitely drafts should be off-limits
Because Petterson & Miller are in the rumors, they won't end up in Boston! There's a lot of interest in them. Unless somehow we move along sway, I don't see a big blockbuster trade for players like those guys. It's a strange season, anything could happen Not a prediction yet I see a potential deal with the Hawks. We like fire sales. Bringing players over in pairs. Can see Donato coming back to boston. He's housebroken. only around $2 million aav. wouldn't surprise if Taylor Hall made it back either. We've lost our speed. He'd have to come in a lot cheaper than his current contract for an extension. Yet we know him. that guy has been on so many teams it's a wonder. 🤔 Keeping an eye on the west - I'm watching Grandlund from San Jose I could see some tweaking around by trade deadline enough to get to the dance Where this team, with a few adjustments, might surprise because we're a lot grittier than previous playoffs. For a month, I'm scratching my head thinking I'm looking at a playoff team? Unless somebody wants swayman now, I'm not seeing a big blockbuster trade right this minute but lining up for something this summer I don't think Freddy,coyle, or any combination like that is going to bring in a Petterson To get something that big, we'll need to give up a goalie and a Brad Marchand or a Pavel zacha I'm truly afraid we're going to lose Korpisalo to a team looking to make a playoff run. Hope not. But it's logical that he would be the top moveable Bruin that's in demand. Aside from Capn ratt The puck is on Sweeney's stick. Not trying to pass through your kidneys Feel better!
@bruinsdiehards That's interesting. You don't want any trades. Well I don't think this one's going to happen as Sweeney never does trades that show up in the headlines I think it was wise & appreciate your addressing the strong rumors I'm not too far off from you yet, based on team history and trades, we're not getting through deadline without something happening Maybe that will be the about face for this season, yet Sweeney always does something this time of year, as you know I don't see anything significant like Petterson unless we surprisingly move a big chunk like Swayman. You know sweeney loves shopping at filene's basement, thrift shops, salvage stores lol! I expect him to come up with something by March 7th 3:00 p.m. Eastern standard Time His tendency is, he likes roster players. Lyselle is likely on the trade block the last week, when teams get desperate to squeeze something out of upcoming ufas, We'll get some pieces in. Just one or two bottom 6 guys to get us to playoffs. Maybe a second line center/ winger. Our top line goes hot and cold, think they need time to build chemistry, I'm disappointed yet willing to give Elias until next season to settle in. somewhere in second and third lines, we need to create mismatches. Everyone's looking at the top six, I still think those lower line mismatches win and lose games especially playoff series That's where I see the most cost-efficient tweak. Lower line mismatches Shot blockers It's not a pie in your face move, Might take fans a bit to catch on... I'm a huge believer in those lower lines!
Wonder how The Hockey Guy feels? These are two of his three teams again, trading guys? I am HOPING That the B's go for SPEED and TALENT from now on. I am tired of these older, bigger guys that are throwbacks to Big Bad B'S DAYS. Persponmally, I'd rsther Pettersson, too.No idea who they'd move for the deal. Is it Lohrei? or who? that would sweeten the deal? I don't want to give up the planet for a center. Even a top 2
Pettersson has had only one superior season....102 points. One season of 89 points in 80 games. All other seasons including this one, he's below a point a game. For 11.6m, he's the fifth highest player in the league. It's cap league....stay away from Pettersson.
Aging myself, probably one of the worst 🐻’s team since 2007 with Dave Lewis behind the bench. Yeah, the guy (player) that wrecked Gord Kluzak’s career when he played. Thinking this season is over…. Turn out the lights, ‘24-25 🐻 party is OVAHH!
It's funny because his play is picking up. In fact, I would say the Bruins wasted his best performance of the year in the loss to the oilers. And his contract doesn't look so bad next to Igor Shesterkin. Honestly, the Lindholm and Zadorov contracts are more of an albatross.
You have to remember that you only traded for Zadorov. You signed Lindholm as a free agent. Vancouver got sweet FA for Lindholm. They thought he was the missing piece for a run at the SC, so they gave up a boat load for him. But, as the Bruins are finding out, he is NOT as advertised.
Alvin won't trade Petterson because he's the future of the Canucks! His poor play is because of Miller & when Miller was gone for 3 weeks, Petterson was playing well with 20 points! He has 440 points in 441 games played which is almost 1 point per game! If anything Alvin would trade Miller or get those two to work their problems out. If anything, Alvin will trade Nils Hoglander & free up $3M for 3 years & not retain Brock Boeser extension asking $9M next year
Petersons no trade kicks in next year. Bruins position of strength is D - so in any trade say goodbye to either carlo or H. Lindy. & Freddie plus Zacha. Since Freddie is a pending ufa won't get much for him. I would keep lysol around and potrias people forget they are only 21.
Do nuthin. Fire sweeney he will screw the team up even more. Bring up poitras and lysel and play them the rest of the season to get experience. Maybe we can actually draft more than 3 rounds since sweeney throws away 1st and 2nds like crazy. And maybe get a coach like gallant?
@bruinsdiehards ok but sacco isnt the long term solution. I guess let him finish this season even though the loss count is 6plus it doesnt matter really this year. The team isnt good enough. Please just dont get quennville after the fiasco that he knew about and did nuthin he shouldnt be back on an nhl bench. Just my opinion.
The Bruins are all set for many years to come as surely as they have many of their corpse (sic) players tied up at rates that (according to the pundits) might seem high now, but will appear as bargains later on..if the said players are not injury-ridden and/or don't feel like just playing on that particular game day. Note: they are not doing that now because...they also said they're not. 😜
@@bruinsdiehards Like the new logo? I was unsure of whether to post up the opposing team for every game or the Homer/hub combo. That will work for now. Seriously, Court, rhetoric stating that they "simply" lacked a sense of urgency is incomplete and (at this junction) incorrect. A pro shouldn't have to be told to...show up to camp ready; work on things in the off-season; make a pro's effort for every game. When you're good/great, you should want that stage and take it- not go through the motions ans send out the same few guys to say the same things. That said, MTL looks great. CBJ is looking to make a serious run and they own the Bruins. PIT and DET...yeah...nah. OTT is not out. Regardless, the Bruins might have taken their best shot- get out front to absorb the crash...much like last year, only that was accomplished with 65% quality starts from their goalie tandem. Ramble at ya latah. Cheers!
@@bruinsdiehards I get it. Same here as I was posting up against many of the signings. Methinks what we're experiencing is a new brand of inflation in the sports entertainment venue...less for more...when you're paid to be that guy and the veterans move on after the said player gets more but can only perform less. 😂
It has nothing to do with chemistry between Lindholm and Pasta. Lindholm is not a number one center and is not that good. Dont want Pettersson. He got a big contract and hasn't been good. I love it when he says that the Bruins would have to give up the farm. What farm?? Vancouver wants a center. Bruins have none. Never going to happen.
I would think it would be zadorov who the canucks want. As far as Zacha I don’t wanna send out a top 6 piece to bring another one in what’s the point they’ll then need to fill zachas role. If it could be zadorov a first and poitras and Freddy then go for it.
@@bruinsdiehards if it’s not enough then we don’t do it. Bring in an underweight struggling C to a struggling team what’s the point unless it’s on the cheap. Why bring on 11.7 and send out a value deal with Zacha
@trevorrochon6983 The answer is because it solidifies your #1 center position for the next 7 years. Because you get a world class passer setting up a world class finisher. Because if you had drafted a top 5 pick who went on to win the Calder, put up 100pts before the age of 25, and is a career ppg player who is defensively responsible, the deal would start with a 10. The point is, the cap hit is overblown.
Sorry dude but as a Vancouverite myself I can 100% auurre you that both guys instantly make the Bruins worse! Pettersson is softer than baby s**t, and Miller is a hot head and absolute locker room cancer!
@@roundnround365 Wrong! I've lived in Vancouver since 2010 and have never seen anyone worse than JT Miller pass through this town!! He's always fighting with teammates, whether it's Luke Schenn, Bo Hornet, Elias Pettersson, or someone else. He's a hothead of the highest order and the biggest giveaway machine since Erik Karlsson! Even current and former teammates have spoken out on it, like Quinn Hughes (current) and Brad Richardson (former), as well as current coach Rick Tocchet and former coach Bruce Boudreau-both of whom have confirmed the ongoing feud between JTM & EP. And there's no shortage of footage of these disputes either, whether from Canucks practices or in actual games. The time he chased an American League goalie out of his own net was absolutely disgraceful! Dude thinks he's the coach and decides when to pull the goalie?? I don't think so! He's also lazy and frequently fails to back check-particularly in 3 on 3 overtime where he always seems to be the reason for the other team scoring to end the game. Not to mention that he's the primary reason Bo Horvat got traded in this middle of his career year with 31 goals in 49 games. Would have had 50 for sure if he'd stayed, but problems with Miller led to his exit. If the Bs pick this guy up, they'll be kicking themselves in no time. I said the same thing about them signing Elias Lindholm, and I wasn't even close to wrong on that! As someone that follows the Bruins primarily as a Brad Marchand fan, I hope that if they do bring in Miller, it'll be Brad going the other way so he can follow the age old maritime tradition of rats leaving sinking ships!
I'm sorry but the real question is not whether the BRUINS can make trades because of course they can; factually, they have something to offer. The real question is: Should the BRUINS trade to rebuild the team or just to plug more holes? Now, GM Don Sweeney (or President Neely, for that matter) has never proven or even demonstrated that he is a builder... unlike Peter Chiarelli. Sweeny has spent his GM career missing major trade opportunities that would have helped make the BRUINS a real Stanley Cup force again. Either he waits too long and gets outdone by other GMs or he is ignored (not very respected) by other GMs in the league (Sweeny tends to always trade with the same teams; it's getting fishy). So, year after year, the result remains the same: the BRUINS are a patchwork... and a bad patchwork at that. If Sweeny is kept on as manager by the trade deadline, the BRUINS will either not make the playoffs and will represent no hope for the next few years or will manage to get into the playoffs and will be eliminated immediately. This team needs to be rebuilt... starting with showing the exit to Messrs. Neely, Sweeny... as well as coach Sacco (from whom we should expect nothing because he repeats Montgomery's mistakes... such as constantly changing the composition of his lines). This tasteless farce has gone on too long. [NB: For me, the return of Lysell to Providence and the non-recall of Poitras are signs that management is suffering from cognitive dissonance. Hopefully the BRUINS don't ping pong with Lysell to the point where he loses his potential and confidence... like what almost happened to Cole Caufield of the Habs until Coach St-Louis decided to make him a permanent, essential player on one of the top two lines. Since then, Caufield has become the team's most dangerous player to score. There are players who, despite their very young age, are NHL level... all you need to give them is stability and time to get in sync with the NHL's high speed.]
You should never be sorry and this is a qeustion I agree with. I was of the mind the Bruins shouldn't of done the signings they this offseason and statted the rebuild but I know the Jacobs would never want to do that.
Do the Bruins even have the players to make this work?
doubtful
Honestly, Brah, just get rid of those ghastly 8-year deals, as many as possible...Swayman, Macavoy, ELindholm. I'm up to see Marchand and the rest go, as well. Personally, I am not seeing just a crashed season go by,but an 8-year crash, as this sorry lot (that doesn't show up ready for camp and checks out of that many games) get better as the years roll by. A good hockey fan likes to watch good hockey. I am ready all over the same things...can't even watch this crap. Same here. Cheers!
Yes. Bruins have the pieces. Bringing in a serious two-way forward definitely could bring a spark as Charlie Coyle did coming in at winter trade deadline, and things weren't going well.
(And he did bring a spark regardless of what we think of him now)
But over the last month I finally figured out - this team is built for playoffs not regular season.
I'm not saying they're going to get far, but with puck luck they could get further in the playoffs against some of these teams in the seven game series than single games.
ManybSports pundits believed Boston Bruins were is superior team to Florida panthers. We got out coached and out muscled. Bruins stood down.
Their team was built to shine in the playoffs.
And they did
@ they have to make the playoffs first and right now I don't see it.
@ I agree though. They are built for the playoffs
Trade Don sweeney and maybe Cam as a kicker. And they need to STOP selling the future for a hill of magic beans.
But magic beans are so shinny
@ they are but how much did they mortgage two years ago thinking they were gonna go on a run it’s just you know do the best you can with what you can but stop selling the future players to get rid of anybody you mention of their new prospects would be absolutely ridiculous
@@believingintheblood8540 oh don't go look at previous drafts of who they could of taken
@ oh I know my heart did not get sad when Deb Roesch left. They could’ve had a lot better, but it is what it is. Hopefully they do better in the future.
Unless a really good deal is made, the Bruins should sell off near the deadline and try and maximize the return
Yeah I think they should be sellers as well
It’s retool time. Rebuild is close, maybe 2 years away.
If you retool what is the best result? Certainly not a cup.
A rebuild with a new GM is what is needed. High draft picks would also be beneficial.
Like I said at the beginning of the season. This was never a coaching issue.
nobody's going anywhere. just noise.
I'd love to see Pettersson in black and gold.
Same but highly unlikely
In my memory , the last time we traded with Vancouver that ended up being a good thing was Cam Neely. That was a long time ago. I'm a little gun shy.
That was a good trade
We always miss the boat with these deals.
The only possible real huge trade bait we have is in our defense core. We can't trade Pastrnak, no one is gonna want Swayman for what he's getting paid. Looking at our defense, I cant see anyone taking on McAvoy and his 9mil a year considering his horrible output and the rest simply are not going to get us enough in return to do anything to turn our offense around. This team simply put needs some way to fix our powerplay nightmare. Fire whoever is responsible for our powerplay (whoever it is) cause we certainly have enough skilled players out there, on the 1st unit anyway. They just continue to roll out the same sad lines etc and are not trying new things. We are in most games, as always over the years but this powerplay is dragging us down. We need to fix it. Making trades out of desperation only means we get the short end of the deal.
Agreed
Jim Rutherford would laugh at what you think is an aggressive offer lol. Your players suck boston. You want miller or pettersson we want pasta
Huge rabid Canuck fan here.
Fans would be out for blood if management mishandled this. We lose any trade involving these two. Miller is our best forward hands down. Big. Mean. Fast. Canon. Runs the PP with Huggy. Ice in this guys veins. My favourite player.
Petey takes heat because he hates media and interviews and gives off a bad vibe publicly. Still he is a super smart 200 ft. player with an accurate deadly shot. Amazing hands. Super crafty playmaker. Once he matures and muscles up to around 185-195 lbs. look out. For either one of these guys you would have to gut your team. They aren’t going anywhere.
I hope your right because there is no way the Canucks can win a trade by trafing one of these guys
Great analysis of Millsy and Pettersson. Personally I’d keep JT just because of his fire and compete level even though he is 5 years older. I would love to have McAvoy straight up for Elias.
@ that would be a fair hockey trade
@@karencampbell3080 Agreed. And that’s what I’m saying. The only way this works for both teams is to literally have the best player on the other team going the other way. I’m just not sure it makes much sense. Gain a top line centre. Lose a number 1 D. I would keep an elite d man nine times out of 10 personally. McAvoy may be having a tough year but you’d have to start rebuilding the team without him. Awesome player.
Elite center is more valuable than elite d. Florida won with average defence, they wouldnt have chance without barky. You can win with mediocre d but not with average center. Theres many examples. @@allenleclerc7878
Miller is a best fit with Bruins Style !
Pettersson is a Deer
Like Sedin Brother's 🤢
Carlo and Zacha for JT Miller
Great Vlog. After 5 straight losses, I see the playoffs slipping away, and we all know the Bs are not a threat to anyone if they make the tournament.
For me, question 1: does Sweeney call the shots for the trade deadline or is he dead man walking? 2: other than Pasta & Lohrei, everyone on the roster is on the market if they can bring back young talent with reasonable contracts. 3: identify and retain anyone in Providence projected as NHL caliber. 4: compiled draft choices in any moves
We're only 20 months removed from the greatest regular season in NHL history, but it seems so long ago.
Yeah last year the they over achieved
FYI, EP40's no trade clause does not kick in until July 1st.
Thank you.
I would get rid a bunch of guys on this roster for Petterson. I wonder, though, if upperer management will let Sweens make any moves…..wait, you just said that while I was typing!!! Whoa
Mind blown lol
I don't think the numbers will work for a trade like this... and even if they did... i'm not sure they have the assets. On a sidenote... what is going on with the Bruins/Canucks roster swaps? It's getting weird.
It is getting weird lol
All I want for Christmas is a power play goal😳
That would be nice
Can't make the deal because we don't have enough to give up.
I think they need to sell and rebuild. Boston has been mortgaging the future for at least 10 years and it’s coming back to haunt them now. Period.
I agree
Well said. Period!
Become like Chicago this is what you want? Not me, there is a way to save this season without going to the basement for years to come.
@@geraldripley9361 well my only issue is the Bruins continue to pit bandaids on things while they have nothing in the cupboard for the future
We need to trade Zadorov, he’s a liability and the Canucks want him back. Also an AHL player and a 2nd. Hopefully for Petterson because he’s a good 2 way center and will compliment Pasta’s play very well. That would be the best outcome 🤞
HaHaHaHaHa Never happen.
Canucks want him back? No way.
I'd consider Zadorov, Freddie, and or E Lindholm for Petterson right now.
Carlo can kick rocks also, he is an absolute cone out there
@@afhostie 🤔 Uhmm, no...
I'd like for the Bruins to get either player, but I'm not not sure a trade is possible. I like both players, and think they'd be great in the lineup. I'd rather have Pettersson, but that is a much harder trade ($11.6M vs Miller's $8M cap hit). Any deal has to be even WRT to cap in/out as both teams are just under the cap limit.
WRT to a Pettersson trade, what can you send the other way to counter his $11.6M cap hit that the Canucks would accept and the Bruins are willing to give up, and would result in a complete roster for the Bruins. My gut tells me what the Canucks would accept are not what the Bruins are willing to move. Worth a discussion by Sweeny, but doubt it's possible (and if it is would likely make the Bruin worse IMO). There was a comment you made in the vid regarding clashes due to commitment level, which is not good with Bruin brass.
WRT to a Miller Trade, more doable due to cap numbers. Coyle + Frederic $7.55M. Coyle is same age as Miller, both heading towards the decline but still effective. Throw a pick in there to fluff it up, as it will save us analyzing another dumb pick in a few years anyway. But if The Canucks sad no to Zibenejad for Miller, they are not taking Coyle.
Hampus and Lohrei I would not move. It's been clear this season how much the defense has missed Hampus, and Lohrei is gonna be a great defenseman for years to come.
Yeah its such a hard trade for Boston to make right now. I also don't think there is much Vancouver would want from Boston
@@bruinsdiehards Pasta, even swap. They make the same $$
Hell yeah, Petterson in Boston would be great but ??? At what cost , & i hope you're feeling better my friend 👍
@@brianbutler6686 a bit better thank you
Agree, Pettersson is the better option. But, don't trade Hampus Lindholm.
Its the contract but I agree
Have to make the money work
Canucks are looking for right handed defensemen so instead of Hampus Lindholm, put Carlo and I thought Zacha but as you mentioned he has a no trade clause so come up with other forwards and prospects for Patterson. I don't know if you have to do as much as many may think, dumping Patterson's large contract would give Canucks more leeway at trade deadline salary cap wise.
With the cap going up that cntract moght not be too large.
Vancouver needs a solid top 4 defenseman. I don’t think we’re moving either Miller or Petey without quality defence in the trade. And I doubt a team is going to want give up that, a good centre and then also take on a big cap hit for Petterson. Personally I doubt a trade ends up happening with anyone
I agree with all of this but will see what happens
Great Stuff Court .. My thoughts is for the Bruins to reset in the off season , maybe move Frederick... believe this season was all about the drama in the off season with Swayman , slow start, and under performance of the players, all coaches not being at there best, and finally the players maybe believe things were so easy for them the last few years at the start of the season , they didn't have to put the work in to start the season .. overall combination of poor performance , decisions, and planning across the whole organization has lead to this situation ..
Thanks Mike. Yeah it been a meh year so far
Do they want Zadorov back??? (Please), along with a Lindholm (pick either one)? and draft pick(s) for Peterson?
I would think they would want more
Nope. We knew what they were when we had them.
26 y.o. PPG Pettersson is not being traded for a 3D and /nor 30 year old center producing @ .05 PPG.
I guy can dream right?
@ dreams are the best
I think the Bruins are pulling a Penguins right now. They need to admit the team needs an overhaul and get after it. They just keep digging a hole chasing that inside straight with resources and cap space. They are spending like an elite team to have a mediocre team.
They do need to admit
WEEI is reporting today that Pasta has told the team he doesn't want to be on a line with Marchand.
Not only are they imploding on the ice, it's in the locker room too.
@@gregrose6915 pasta is a whiny baby who tries to go through the opponents whole team by himself just like last nite. They take it away from the baby and score a shorthanded goal which sinks the whole bench
Yikes! I will have to look into that
@@gregrose6915 being told their is no beef
@@bruinsdiehards Keefe of WEEI reported it this morning
@ Marchand just denied and called for Keefe to be fired
The only way I'm ok with you guys making a deal for one of these two is if you Retain some Sallary on Z and send him back our way. as part of the deal.
BTW Boston is my 3rd LEAST favorite NHL Team, The Rangers are Number 2, and Mark John Douglass Messier sits ALONE in Slot number 1.
They don't have to retain anything
I actually like the Canucks because my dad played for them
@@bruinsdiehards No way May i ask who he is or is that too personal?
@ Bobby Lalonde
I'd ship off E Lindholm and Freddie but I'm guessing they'd want more good Petterson. I'm not ready to ship prospects.
Yeah they will want a hual
Trade Carlo, Zacha or Prospect Lysell,whom they love.Pederson🎉😅
Pettersson for McAvoy straight up.
I think Vancouver says no
Pettersson for Lindholm & Lindholm.. or Pettersson for Zacha & Hampus Lindholm
Pastrnak carlo for miller desharnais, forbort
Well played
they would probably be better off keeping the train wreck rolling over the bridge and admit to a rebuild from the top down.
The Bruins do not have what others want or need in order to make the Bruins better this season, they end an avg .500-650 and get knocked out in the first round
do we need more or any toxic players from other teams this late in the year?
dont make any deals this year and hope for a better pick next year
Yeah I don't think they can anyways
well... I dont think anyone should be off-limits...but contractually they likely are.. likely they might be able to convince one or two to waive the NMC for Vancouver... maybe... part of that mighrt be taxes too... would love it if something could be done - Miller has quite an angry mentality which might slap a few Bruins to pull up their socks.
Definitely drafts should be off-limits
Yeah it would be nice but it feels like a stretch for Boston
@@bruinsdiehards yeah almost impossible
tank it and rebuild, this team is a mess
Yes, E Lindholm has played badly.
FRIE neely
Because Petterson & Miller are in the rumors, they won't end up in Boston!
There's a lot of interest in them. Unless somehow we move along sway, I don't see a big blockbuster trade for players like those guys.
It's a strange season, anything could happen
Not a prediction yet I see a potential deal with the Hawks. We like fire sales. Bringing players over in pairs.
Can see Donato coming back to boston. He's housebroken. only around $2 million aav.
wouldn't surprise if Taylor Hall made it back either. We've lost our speed. He'd have to come in a lot cheaper than his current contract for an extension. Yet we know him. that guy has been on so many teams it's a wonder.
🤔
Keeping an eye on the west - I'm watching Grandlund from San Jose
I could see some tweaking around by trade deadline enough to get to the dance
Where this team, with a few adjustments, might surprise because we're a lot grittier than previous playoffs.
For a month, I'm scratching my head thinking I'm looking at a playoff team?
Unless somebody wants swayman now, I'm not seeing a big blockbuster trade right this minute but lining up for something this summer
I don't think Freddy,coyle, or any combination like that is going to bring in a Petterson
To get something that big, we'll need to give up a goalie and a Brad Marchand or a Pavel zacha
I'm truly afraid we're going to lose Korpisalo to a team looking to make a playoff run.
Hope not. But it's logical that he would be the top moveable Bruin that's in demand.
Aside from Capn ratt
The puck is on Sweeney's stick.
Not trying to pass through your kidneys
Feel better!
@@TheFoolintherainn I truly feel the Bruins shouldn't make any trades
@bruinsdiehards That's interesting. You don't want any trades.
Well I don't think this one's going to happen as
Sweeney never does trades that show up in the headlines
I think it was wise & appreciate your addressing the strong rumors
I'm not too far off from you yet, based on team history and trades, we're not getting through deadline without something happening
Maybe that will be the about face for this season, yet Sweeney always does something this time of year, as you know
I don't see anything significant like Petterson unless we surprisingly move a big chunk like Swayman.
You know sweeney loves shopping at filene's basement, thrift shops, salvage stores lol!
I expect him to come up with something by March 7th 3:00 p.m. Eastern standard Time
His tendency is, he likes roster players. Lyselle is likely on the trade block
the last week, when teams get desperate to squeeze something out of upcoming ufas,
We'll get some pieces in.
Just one or two bottom 6 guys to get us to playoffs.
Maybe a second line center/ winger.
Our top line goes hot and cold, think they need time to build chemistry, I'm disappointed yet willing to give Elias until next season to settle in.
somewhere in second and third lines, we need to create mismatches.
Everyone's looking at the top six, I still think those lower line mismatches win and lose games
especially playoff series
That's where I see the most cost-efficient tweak.
Lower line mismatches
Shot blockers
It's not a pie in your face move,
Might take fans a bit to catch on...
I'm a huge believer in those lower lines!
@ I guess if they are out I do want them to move on from guys oike Frederic to get some assets back
just get rid of players now that you can get a decent return as opposed to during the off season
Wonder how The Hockey Guy feels? These are two of his three teams again, trading guys?
I am HOPING That the B's go for SPEED and TALENT from now on. I am tired of these older, bigger guys that are throwbacks to Big Bad B'S DAYS. Persponmally, I'd rsther Pettersson, too.No idea who they'd move for the deal. Is it Lohrei? or who? that would sweeten the deal?
I don't want to give up the planet for a center. Even a top 2
Two of my teams as well lol
Pettersson has had only one superior season....102 points. One season of 89 points in 80 games. All other seasons including this one, he's below a point a game. For 11.6m, he's the fifth highest player in the league. It's cap league....stay away from Pettersson.
Fair point
Zad and Lind have played with Petey, hope they are engaging on phone
Good point
Will they win the cup by trading for either? No. Then don’t bother and start a rebuild.
We both know the Jacobs won't do a rebuild
I would sell honestly love the vids btw 🎉🎉
Thank you
Aging myself, probably one of the worst 🐻’s team since 2007 with Dave Lewis behind the bench. Yeah, the guy (player) that wrecked Gord Kluzak’s career when he played. Thinking this season is over…. Turn out the lights, ‘24-25 🐻 party is OVAHH!
Yeah they’re bad
Would like to see swayman gone but no one would take that contract 8.25 million for 8 years so were stuck with the bum!!!!!!!!
I guess
It's funny because his play is picking up. In fact, I would say the Bruins wasted his best performance of the year in the loss to the oilers. And his contract doesn't look so bad next to Igor Shesterkin. Honestly, the Lindholm and Zadorov contracts are more of an albatross.
Sway has played really well lately.
@ yup and I have a video dropping about that very subject today
I said it at the very beginning of the year.
This Bruins team lacks identity.
They lack a lot of things
Bruins don’t have a centre and RHD. It’s not a good fit.
Didn't they learn a lesson on their last trade with Vancouver?
You have to remember that you only traded for Zadorov. You signed Lindholm as a free agent. Vancouver got sweet FA for Lindholm. They thought he was the missing piece for a run at the SC, so they gave up a boat load for him. But, as the Bruins are finding out, he is NOT as advertised.
What a mess. If only they had younger talent in the minors😊
That would be too much to ask
Alvin won't trade Petterson because he's the future of the Canucks! His poor play is because of Miller & when Miller was gone for 3 weeks, Petterson was playing well with 20 points! He has 440 points in 441 games played which is almost 1 point per game! If anything Alvin would trade Miller or get those two to work their problems out. If anything, Alvin will trade Nils Hoglander & free up $3M for 3 years & not retain Brock Boeser extension asking $9M next year
Yeah I wouldn't trade either of them. Way too good of players
His poor play has persisted since he signed the contract,which is almost a year,Miller hater.
Please take Petterson
Ok
0 chance
So you’re telling me their is a chamce
Petersons no trade kicks in next year. Bruins position of strength is D - so in any trade say goodbye to either carlo or H. Lindy. & Freddie plus Zacha. Since Freddie is a pending ufa won't get much for him. I would keep lysol around and potrias people forget they are only 21.
You will have to give to get. I don't see how if any deal is to be made Vancouver wouldn't want either Lysell or Poitras tossed in
zacha is a good player at good cap.
Can we trade zadarov lol
Miller will only be traded to the Rangers Canucks are bringing up wilander why trade Petterson & have Miller yell at Wilander
Fair
Do nuthin. Fire sweeney he will screw the team up even more. Bring up poitras and lysel and play them the rest of the season to get experience. Maybe we can actually draft more than 3 rounds since sweeney throws away 1st and 2nds like crazy. And maybe get a coach like gallant?
I’m a no on Gallant. There is a reason all he does is get fired within the first couple of years
@bruinsdiehards ok but sacco isnt the long term solution. I guess let him finish this season even though the loss count is 6plus it doesnt matter really this year. The team isnt good enough. Please just dont get quennville after the fiasco that he knew about and did nuthin he shouldnt be back on an nhl bench. Just my opinion.
Lindholm and zadorov for miller
I think Vancouver says no
The Bruins are all set for many years to come as surely as they have many of their corpse (sic) players tied up at rates that (according to the pundits) might seem high now, but will appear as bargains later on..if the said players are not injury-ridden and/or don't feel like just playing on that particular game day. Note: they are not doing that now because...they also said they're not. 😜
Lol
@@bruinsdiehards Like the new logo? I was unsure of whether to post up the opposing team for every game or the Homer/hub combo. That will work for now. Seriously, Court, rhetoric stating that they "simply" lacked a sense of urgency is incomplete and (at this junction) incorrect. A pro shouldn't have to be told to...show up to camp ready; work on things in the off-season; make a pro's effort for every game. When you're good/great, you should want that stage and take it- not go through the motions ans send out the same few guys to say the same things. That said, MTL looks great. CBJ is looking to make a serious run and they own the Bruins. PIT and DET...yeah...nah. OTT is not out. Regardless, the Bruins might have taken their best shot- get out front to absorb the crash...much like last year, only that was accomplished with 65% quality starts from their goalie tandem. Ramble at ya latah. Cheers!
@ logo is pretty funny. I didn't want them to sign anyone this offseason and to start a mini rebuild
@@bruinsdiehards I get it. Same here as I was posting up against many of the signings. Methinks what we're experiencing is a new brand of inflation in the sports entertainment venue...less for more...when you're paid to be that guy and the veterans move on after the said player gets more but can only perform less. 😂
Fire Sweeny, he needs to make some good moves or else !
Neither, Vancouver will be looking for too much
Why would Vancouver trade a stallion in Pettersson for a handful of ponies?
I agree
@@nhronin because they're the Canuckleheads , good enough.
Do not trade Lohrei
I hope they keep him as well
They should re tool like Washington.
They tried that this summer
@@michaeldavidson3055 whoever scouted Protas in Washington needs to be hired, Belarus..
please don't even think of making this trade for another weak soft enemic scorer who won't work out!
They can trade all they want.Start the rebuild.
It has nothing to do with chemistry between Lindholm and Pasta. Lindholm is not a number one center and is not that good. Dont want Pettersson. He got a big contract and hasn't been good. I love it when he says that the Bruins would have to give up the farm. What farm?? Vancouver wants a center. Bruins have none. Never going to happen.
@@duartecabral55 you still need chemistry on the ice regardless if you’re a number one center or not
I would think it would be zadorov who the canucks want. As far as Zacha I don’t wanna send out a top 6 piece to bring another one in what’s the point they’ll then need to fill zachas role. If it could be zadorov a first and poitras and Freddy then go for it.
Nope. Not even close.
I dont that is near enough
@ then no deal.
@@bruinsdiehards if it’s not enough then we don’t do it. Bring in an underweight struggling C to a struggling team what’s the point unless it’s on the cheap. Why bring on 11.7 and send out a value deal with Zacha
@trevorrochon6983 The answer is because it solidifies your #1 center position for the next 7 years. Because you get a world class passer setting up a world class finisher. Because if you had drafted a top 5 pick who went on to win the Calder, put up 100pts before the age of 25, and is a career ppg player who is defensively responsible, the deal would start with a 10. The point is, the cap hit is overblown.
He's coming to the Islanders so stop wasting your breath
I dont think he is going to either team
LMAO. Not going to happen in this universe. Why?
Yeah I don't think the Bruins have the pieces. As to why, I explained that in the video
Please no more Vancouver garbage :( lol
FIRE THE COACH! lol
Yeah I think it has been proven it’s not the coach
The Bruins have no assets the would be willing to part with (the barely have any assets at all)
Yup.
Don Sweeney for a puck bag!!
Puck bag says no
There is no way the Canucks will trade for the bruins trash. Enjoy Zadorov and Lindholms sh itty effort
Good morning to you too
You guys that start these rumours are hilarious This trade is never ever happening dream on.
I didn't start it but ok.
The coach is a big problem also..Get a REAL head coach And trade for someone can score but the coach is key
Are you talking about the Bruins?
Nope
What u mean idiot expectations to be #1o center,look att his stats last 3yrs ,where do see #1offence guy
When did I call people idiots?
@bruinsdiehards sorry bro just pissed about this signing
@ all good, no harm
6:14
@@14daze ?
dude you are dreaming second rate players for Petterson
I literally said I don't think the Bruins have the assets to make this work.
Two no move clauses... great, great, so this is all pointless speculation. I can get that from NESN.
Just a conversation. You don’t have to watch
Pettersson doesn’t have any trade protection this season. 🤦♂️
@ we figure that out already. Stop acting like you have never made a mistake
Meet a girl, go out on a date and please stop livin in a world where your a defacto general manager for a nhl team. You'll likely be happier.
Says the guy watching my video about it in RUclips lol
Sorry dude but as a Vancouverite myself I can 100% auurre you that both guys instantly make the Bruins worse! Pettersson is softer than baby s**t, and Miller is a hot head and absolute locker room cancer!
Really eh? I heard that about Miller. I have a spoft spot for Vancouver
@@bruinsdiehards Looks like LeoBond follows reporters BS stories and not the team,itself.
@ could work for the team lol
@@roundnround365 Wrong! I've lived in Vancouver since 2010 and have never seen anyone worse than JT Miller pass through this town!! He's always fighting with teammates, whether it's Luke Schenn, Bo Hornet, Elias Pettersson, or someone else.
He's a hothead of the highest order and the biggest giveaway machine since Erik Karlsson!
Even current and former teammates have spoken out on it, like Quinn Hughes (current) and Brad Richardson (former), as well as current coach Rick Tocchet and former coach Bruce Boudreau-both of whom have confirmed the ongoing feud between JTM & EP.
And there's no shortage of footage of these disputes either, whether from Canucks practices or in actual games.
The time he chased an American League goalie out of his own net was absolutely disgraceful! Dude thinks he's the coach and decides when to pull the goalie?? I don't think so!
He's also lazy and frequently fails to back check-particularly in 3 on 3 overtime where he always seems to be the reason for the other team scoring to end the game.
Not to mention that he's the primary reason Bo Horvat got traded in this middle of his career year with 31 goals in 49 games. Would have had 50 for sure if he'd stayed, but problems with Miller led to his exit.
If the Bs pick this guy up, they'll be kicking themselves in no time. I said the same thing about them signing Elias Lindholm, and I wasn't even close to wrong on that!
As someone that follows the Bruins primarily as a Brad Marchand fan, I hope that if they do bring in Miller, it'll be Brad going the other way so he can follow the age old maritime tradition of rats leaving sinking ships!
I would think if Brad left it would be to go play with Nate
Sign lucic
Why
If you guys hated the Sedins, Petterson is way weaker physically and mentally. Take him! Please!
I never hated them
@@vancitymountaineer7728 I have a soft spot for Vancouver because my dad played there
keep on dreaming Boston...lmao
@@samjohnson4550 are you hurt by this?
I'm sorry but the real question is not whether the BRUINS can make trades because of course they can; factually, they have something to offer.
The real question is: Should the BRUINS trade to rebuild the team or just to plug more holes?
Now, GM Don Sweeney (or President Neely, for that matter) has never proven or even demonstrated that he is a builder... unlike Peter Chiarelli. Sweeny has spent his GM career missing major trade opportunities that would have helped make the BRUINS a real Stanley Cup force again. Either he waits too long and gets outdone by other GMs or he is ignored (not very respected) by other GMs in the league (Sweeny tends to always trade with the same teams; it's getting fishy). So, year after year, the result remains the same: the BRUINS are a patchwork... and a bad patchwork at that.
If Sweeny is kept on as manager by the trade deadline, the BRUINS will either not make the playoffs and will represent no hope for the next few years or will manage to get into the playoffs and will be eliminated immediately.
This team needs to be rebuilt... starting with showing the exit to Messrs. Neely, Sweeny... as well as coach Sacco (from whom we should expect nothing because he repeats Montgomery's mistakes... such as constantly changing the composition of his lines).
This tasteless farce has gone on too long.
[NB: For me, the return of Lysell to Providence and the non-recall of Poitras are signs that management is suffering from cognitive dissonance. Hopefully the BRUINS don't ping pong with Lysell to the point where he loses his potential and confidence... like what almost happened to Cole Caufield of the Habs until Coach St-Louis decided to make him a permanent, essential player on one of the top two lines. Since then, Caufield has become the team's most dangerous player to score. There are players who, despite their very young age, are NHL level... all you need to give them is stability and time to get in sync with the NHL's high speed.]
You should never be sorry and this is a qeustion I agree with. I was of the mind the Bruins shouldn't of done the signings they this offseason and statted the rebuild but I know the Jacobs would never want to do that.
Signing Lindholm and Zadorov was a burn 😂😂😂😂😂 there’s no way the Canucks are trading these guys to Boston keep dreaming 😂
I literally say it won't happen in the video. Who is dreaming?
Trade pasta Marchand one these bums crazy ashell give em Lindholm back debrusk and Miller
Miller?