Flex you said it ..". rip it all up ... winning the FA wont change my mind"..... And then you won .... euphoria....and forgot wat you had seen all season....now you are back
Utd fans know deep down a new coach isn’t changing anything until you’ve still got a toxic dressing room. Get rid of the trouble makers no matter how much they’re on.
I’m sorry, but people that are saying it’s the players to blame for the problem must be crazy. The manager spent £660 million on these players and The rest of the players he extended their contract so these are his players. How can you then blame the players? We could have 13 different players and we still be getting the same results😂 Half of this fan base is deluded(how could you be positive about this season?) Erik ten hag OUT GGMU
But the fact that he been exposed since the 7:0 vs Liverpool and also the Champions League campaign exposed him also. An all of that was last season it was obvious that he wasn’t the guy for the job and you people didn’t make the shout to get him out.. so Let him stay for the end of the season you people deserve this
@@elevationprocess3144 totally agree. The writing was on the wall last season. I was alarmed after our first game against wolves and it continued all through the season. Had to sit down and watch Flex, KG and Owen repeatedly talk about people like myself calling Ten Hag out for his poor performances and his excuses as bad fans and trigger happy fans. But it was soooo clear. His excuse about injuries should have been thrown out the window when we were battered by a Newcastle team with 9 first team players injured at St James Park. We played 2 shots that game with 1 on target. It was pathetic. But constantly, some of the leaders in this community (Flex, KG and Owen...that's what you guys are) kept excusing this manager. The performances matter more than the result. CONSISTENT PERFORMANCES will bring results. Too many times I see Man Utd fans enamoredwith results when the performance was atrocious. Smh It is sad that it has taken this long and we have had to drop this low for everyone to see what was so clear last season.
No manager should survive the Anfield massacre that’s what I’ve been saying for a year. I’m sorry, but people that are saying it’s the players to blame for the problem must be crazy. The manager spent £660 million on these players and The rest of the players he extended their contract so these are his players. How can you then blame the players? We could have 13 different players and we still be getting the same results😂 Half of this fan base is deluded(how could you be positive about this season?) Erik ten hag OUT GGMU
Building a great team is a process. Ten Hag has won 2 trophies and earned the right for a third season. However this season goes, it was warranted that Ten Hag gets time, unless you wanted Southgate.
@@questforreality this is the scared tactic they use to try defend him, talking about “who out there is better?” the answer is anyone and the real question is which one of the top 8 teams can this manager beat home or away ???
@@UnitedViewTV don’t tell man shut up lol, u put urself in this position lool told u last year after Brighton beat us 3-1, he is stubborn and refuses to make the simple obvious changes, 1year later more United fans starting to sound like me
😂😂😂 - flex needs to suffer. Dropping his real football opinion in the gutter for the life of a media guy. You don’t get to have your cake and eat it too. In life we need to back the decision we make. He made this choice. The real flex would have fired ten hag 18 months ago.
the chickens are coming home to roost. He and other channels have been pushing pro ten hag propaganda since his arrival despite all the evidence. He shares as much blame as ETH.
I saw a tweet that said Ten Hag has conceded 3 goals in 23 matches at man utd. That's nearly a 5th of his games. Come on people, you have to see that he's crap.
Ugarte is playing exactly how he played before we bought him. There wasn't even any fineprint on the purchase. But what Teghag is asking the 6 to do is unrealistic. One player supposed to plug all the gaps in the team? That was never going to happen
4:05 - “I don’t wanna watch it, we know what we’re gonna see” - Speaking as an Arsenal fan, we know what we’re going to see, and we all defo wanna watch!😂
please, not that bell end! I cringe when he refers to our players and staff by their first names like he knows them. He loves "Rasmus", thinks he's world class. And in pre-season he was all over "Dan, Jason and Omar" like he's on first name terms with Berrada, Ashworth and Wilcox
shocking isn't he. I called it from the moment we signed him. Absolutely awful defender but our thick as fuck fanbase buzz off him because they think he's a hardman. They love shit players as long as they pump their chest and act like a big man. See also, Ander Herrera and Gabriel Heinze. Dogshit, tactically indiscplined "passion merchants". Dalot isn't far off that bracket too. Lazy and stupid. Neither of them understand if your man runs past you, your job is to track their run, not just stand there and point!
As a liverpool supporter I think Ten Hag needs more time to gel his squad. He probably needs another 500m to get a few more ex Ajax players in. Trust the process. 😂😂
I hope the new manager we get clears out every Ten Hag's signings because every single one of them have been shockingly crap plus get rid of Rashford he's robbing united for a living and as for Bruno time for him to go too they're simply not good enough
The Ten Haag fans said “give him his player and we will fly” out of 11 players, 8 were signed by him, and he gave contract extension to Rashford and Bruno.
The mentality of the team is a reflection of the coach. He’s with them all week he’s implementing his core team values. Because ETH is mid table mentality the team will play mid table.
100 percent. We need fan channels with actual footballers running it so that they know what they are saying Mark does not even look like he played school football.
This has been the cycle of United since 2015. No manager has last more than 2 seasons. There’s a fundamental issue with the club and the mentality of the players. I’m not absolving Ten Hag but we’ve seen this story before
You have to question some of the players. Tactics out of possession not great, but that doesn’t mean players shouldn’t be giving to do the basics like tracking back and closing down runners. LB should not be able to run that far without a single challenge.
you ARE absolving ten hag though coming out with that uninformed nonsense. You are acting like there's a supernatural curse on the club. We've consistently hired managers that are either out of their depth or past it. It was glaringly obvious that every appointment post Ferguson would be, at best, competing for fourth spot in the league. Mourinho and van gaal were ten years past their best when they arrived in Manchester. Solskjaer, Moyes and 7hag were nowhere near the level of experience to take over a club of this size. I'm sick of hearing that "the problems at the club" are responsible for this malaise. It really isn't that complicated. We'll be back to winning things if we actually hire a proper manager that has; a) Managed in one of Europe's top leagues for a number of years; b) Won leagues; c) Isn't a decade past their sell-by date with horrendously outdated tactics.
@@highnoon7097 Where am I absolving the manager, but the players have to take responsibility for their decisions, performance and lack of effort. Is it the manager that tells the players not tackle, not to complete a 5 yard pass or capitulate when the going gets tough?
@@sirmarcus1 "There’s a fundamental issue with the club and the mentality" Its utter bollocks. It isn't an issue with club or mentality. What part of this do you not understand... IF YOU HIRE A SECOND RATE MANAGER THEN YOU'LL GET SECOND RATE PERFORMANCES. Ten Hag is the worst coach in the league. He'd still be stinking out the place even if Old Trafford was a utopia behind the scenes. There's so many fans like you that think "we've tried" with elite managers yet the reality is we haven't hired an elite manager yet. Klopp came in at Liverpool and proved unequivocally that a team is only is as good as its manager. They'd had about 20 years of indifferent form. They had all that turmoil with their owners Gillet and Hicks. The same guff about "the club and mentality" was being spat out about Liverpool. Then they got a proper manager and all that became nothing more than background noise. Stop blaming the factors aside from these SHITE managers we keep appointing.
@@highnoon7097 You’re misquoting me now. If the players had the right mentality why have we seen these capitulations so often? We’ve seen this under the last 4 full time managers. Both things can be true the manager isn’t good enough and the players have a weak mentality. You mentioned Klopp, didn’t he the club had to get players with the right mentality and that the club did.
Shocking takes. Any XI with garnacho starting by default cannot be considered our strongest, the evidence is there when he starts he's far less effective . He literally has 1 good starting performance this season, a start against league one opposition. He excels from the bench in limited minutes against tired legs the numbers back this up. Hes just not a good enough footballer and wouldn't start for any other team in the top 8. The injurys last season was an excuse peddled by ETH apologists all teams face injuries, the way we played poorly had more to do with the managers tactics, coaching and selections. Hence our form mirroring last season despite less injuries and new squad additions. Bruno is not a good captain, however he isn't a very good player either. over the last 3 league seasons with him being the main man weve finished 8th 3rd and 7th with him averaging just over 7 league assists in those years. The excuse pushed that its more to do with his united team mates is a fallacy. over. His last 2 knockout games for portugal at the EUROS 0 goal 0 assists pass completion hovering around 68%. This season for us 0 goals 1 league assist. Casemiro didn't even start so i'm going to point out the baseless agenda against him, by comparison ugarte did nothing of note and were still defensively weak in the middle since he's introduction to the first team. Finally ETH is the issue with him gutting the club of any players with quality and proven pedigree in world football and replacing them with dross bar de light and mazzouri. Any fan who doesnt think hes the issue despite us regressing finishing 8th after finishing 7th the season before his arrival. YOUR BONKERS!
Up to the end of last season, I regarded Flex as one of the best on RUclips. But, after you made your apology video about ETH out. I was like, no, he is as bad as the rest of them. I know football is emotional, but when I come to judging a coach, let's use the available data. The available data at the end of last said a lot about ETH not being the right to move us forward. Big clubs like Real Madrid put results above their feelings. We beat City because they had a bad day. That victory should not have been a reason to keep ETH.
In 12th place with -3 goal difference after just six games says it all. Can’t score and defence not helped by players who don’t track back or close down runners. You’re just too easy to score against.
exactly. The delusional fans think it isn't the manager's fault for demotivated lazy players. In any workplace, not just football, you get some managers that can motivate staff, and some just don't have that charisma you need to lead people. We've all worked for someone who is just incapable of lifting the workforce, whether they're a good bloke or a disciplinarian, some people just don't have what it takes to call the shots. That's sadly where 7hag finds himself. There's no respect for him. He's out of his depth.
Even at our worst Arsenal could still make more than 3 passes back to back. United struggle to move the ball and seem confused when they have to defend. They can't cross, aren't decent on set pieces. These players are simply bad, they can't command the field. Having said all that please, please! Keep him as manager forever 😂😂😂😂
Really, we want to see a video of the United players in training just to know what they are doing, or they just meet two hours before the match. It is not normal to make the same mistakes, even if you change players. They treated Mickey as if he were Messi, and the same thing happened in other matches.
If we wanna try & salvage something from this season then Ineos have to act simple as that. We arent beating Porto or Villa. Tbh i dont know when our next win is gonna come from. Even under Ole we had a style of play
The worst thing about this club is that the low standards that we have accepted for too long is making the club slowly regress. We can’t even compete in the second tier of European Football. Money has been spent, maybe not wisely, but the manager is not elite level and accept too much mediocrity from his players. SIR ALEX would have hairdried the players and cut their incentives after such a bad performance. Nope instead they get new contracts because they sell T shirts. We the fans can only blame ourselves for accepting the lower standards year after year and not actively going on strike against the club direction of commercial success over success on the pitch.
Aston villa will absolutely demolish us. I bet they can't wait to beat us. They don't even turn up at old trafford. I can't believe how bad and dumb those players are. The manager sets them to fail to open in midfield he doesn't even know that pack the midfield man erik man.
INEOS was about to give ETH an extremely well-deserved dismissal notice, but because of FA Cup final win and the reaction from fans like you and KG, they didn't dare to do it. And here we are.
Ten Hag just looks so uninspiring standing there motionless and grim faced on the sideline. He just doesn’t act like a man you can believe in - there appears to be no passion or real emotion in him.
Yes, that second half pissed me really off that the players with ten man know decided, know we try. Absolutley shocking from a footballing side in the first half and from the mentality side overall.
We had to give ETH the benefit of the doubt after the FA cup win and the new board . But I was still on board with him but he has clearly lost the players . Stood there on the side shaking his head but its him who has picked the team and the way we approach it and set up. Time for him to go ! Rashford is the only denominator that has over seen the ins and outs of so many coaches. He must be fucking brilliant in training hes kidding everyone
Couldn’t agree more brother, it’s over, ETH ball is finished, Bruno should have been on the bench if you look at it logically, new style formation needed…..I backed him but it’s not good enough……..
BUYING YOUNG PLAYERS, WOULD BE TOO MUCH PRESSURE AT A CLUB LIKE MUFC. THEY WOULD UNDERPERFORM EVEN THO THEYVE BEEN GOOD IN THEIR PREVIOUS CLUBS AND THE BIG PLAYERS , MAN U RUIN THEIR CAREERS AND MAKE THEM USELESS
I was gutted when we didn't make the change in the summer. For Man U to keep a manager who finishes 8th is one if the stupidest decisions ever. Blinded by a cup win and somehow forgetting the luck we had against Coventry, I was vex when they had their 4th goal disallowed because I knew this rubbish was coming. Even in that final, City were poor, gave us a goal, hit the post, should've had a penalty and we forgot all of that. The league is how you assess your season. Always should be. He needs to go now.
I think that this is a simple situation for Ineos. They did an end-of-season review and acted on it. The outcomes have been disappointing since then, so they should re-open their review for the purpose of attaining better outcomes.
How much longer do we have to take this crap? Ten hag hasn't got a f-ing clue mate. HALF A BILLION, 3 YEARS, 20+ PLAYERS and people still wanna blame everyone but him.
This is the problem with United. People keep saying United doesnt have a playing stlye. They do. Its call the Bruno+ Rashy style. They had been training 3 years to build a team around these two player. This is why they are always playing the same clueless way. This problem will be the same even if a new manager comes in and fall in love with them both. United must build a system that players need to fit it. Now what United had been doing and failing is because United had a system that was built to accommodate Bruno and Rashy. This is the biggest problem.
I wasn’t a surprise. Look at how we could have lost to Southampton and got so lucky with the pen miss, and we won 3-1 and I said then up against a better team we will get slapped. Coaching staff and the discipline of the players. We allow certain player to do what they want here and this is what happens
I backed Ten Hag but not anymore, there’s NO hope with him in charge. He needs to go. Last year we could blame injuries but not this time. He spent £600mil, it’s his 3rd season and he’s talking about the team needs to press better. We have ZERO style of play and he’s tactically inept.
No fair!!! United played with 10 tired looking players and (although I didnt count) Spurs had about 18 (?) fighting fit players!!! BUT.....as my Man.U. fan cousin said : " we got 2 trophiiiiiiiiies, you got zeroooooooo" (Im a Arsenal fan). You'll win at Porto and ETH will have his position cemented!!!! Please keep Ten Hag, thats one worry less for us!!
While United were pathetic, United fans are acting like they lost 3-0 to Everton. Fact of the matter is that Spurs haven't got the results to match their performance this season, and should realistically be on 5 wins and a draw. Spurs won't get any credit but that's normal.
The worst part is Ineos prob wont pull the trigger anytime soon. We have to go through more pain until it finally happens. Im just different if i get punched up i move out the way and fight back i dont stand there getting abused. This manager waffles every interview and we never see progression. He needs to hit the road home
Whose brilliant idea was it to invest in Mount for 60mill with an insane salary and hand over the iconic No.7 shirt to him, with the injury record we are seeing....
Bring the U18 players to play. They will put in more heart than this lot. I really wanted this Ten Hag to work but obviously he is not as good as we thought. Ajax was a ruse
Flip flop flex...united win their next game he ll give him a chance again😂😂😂😂
Flex you said it ..". rip it all up ... winning the FA wont change my mind"..... And then you won .... euphoria....and forgot wat you had seen all season....now you are back
EXACTLY!!!
Flip flop Flex 😂
So f*king true!!
He'll flip again next week after we smash the next game
He's running a business and intends to generate money out of it. He'll do what it is needed to generate traction for his "business".
Flex u wanted him in for a 3rd season hope u enjoy
anyone worried about ten hag staying got alot of hassle from the true reds brigade, now they are seeing we were right
Utd fans know deep down a new coach isn’t changing anything until you’ve still got a toxic dressing room. Get rid of the trouble makers no matter how much they’re on.
@@1972dsraiProblem is biggest trouble maker is Ten Haram
Luke Shaw is injured
That's what I said, should got rid 2seasons ago.but silly fans wanted him.
Crazy it took til this game for people to see this manager is dead 😂😂😂
We’ll be back hear next week after we scum it against Porto and flex will tell us “there’s something to build on🤓”
I’m sorry, but people that are saying it’s the players to blame for the problem must be crazy. The manager spent £660 million on these players and The rest of the players he extended their contract so these are his players. How can you then blame the players? We could have 13 different players and we still be getting the same results😂 Half of this fan base is deluded(how could you be positive about this season?) Erik ten hag OUT GGMU
@@CumfurtNJoy Porto and Villa are spanking us and he'll be gone in the international break
I am have saying this for nearly a year now
Losing to Spurs this badly will do that to you. Liverpool lost 4-1 to Spurs in late 2017 and it made them buy Van Dijk a few months later in Jan
I’m sure Abbi is looking forward to tomorrow’s DR Sports show 😊
Gonna be a cooking tomorrow lol
and Flex gonna be missing like after loss to Liverpool
He won’t show up!
Flex wont be there
But.... But.... Man Utd won the transfer window 😅
@@malcolmodoy2651 facts 😂😂😂
Bought players no one else was looking at.
Sancho is the problem
With mediocrity
Ugarte the savior lmao
He’s the same guy if we win the next two games will do a show with KG telling us maybe the manger is turning it around 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
But the fact that he been exposed since the 7:0 vs Liverpool and also the Champions League campaign exposed him also. An all of that was last season it was obvious that he wasn’t the guy for the job and you people didn’t make the shout to get him out.. so Let him stay for the end of the season you people deserve this
@@elevationprocess3144 totally agree. The writing was on the wall last season. I was alarmed after our first game against wolves and it continued all through the season. Had to sit down and watch Flex, KG and Owen repeatedly talk about people like myself calling Ten Hag out for his poor performances and his excuses as bad fans and trigger happy fans. But it was soooo clear. His excuse about injuries should have been thrown out the window when we were battered by a Newcastle team with 9 first team players injured at St James Park. We played 2 shots that game with 1 on target. It was pathetic. But constantly, some of the leaders in this community (Flex, KG and Owen...that's what you guys are) kept excusing this manager. The performances matter more than the result. CONSISTENT PERFORMANCES will bring results. Too many times I see Man Utd fans enamoredwith results when the performance was atrocious.
Smh
It is sad that it has taken this long and we have had to drop this low for everyone to see what was so clear last season.
No manager should survive the Anfield massacre that’s what I’ve been saying for a year.
I’m sorry, but people that are saying it’s the players to blame for the problem must be crazy. The manager spent £660 million on these players and The rest of the players he extended their contract so these are his players. How can you then blame the players? We could have 13 different players and we still be getting the same results😂 Half of this fan base is deluded(how could you be positive about this season?) Erik ten hag OUT GGMU
Building a great team is a process. Ten Hag has won 2 trophies and earned the right for a third season. However this season goes, it was warranted that Ten Hag gets time, unless you wanted Southgate.
@@questforreality this is the scared tactic they use to try defend him, talking about “who out there is better?” the answer is anyone and the real question is which one of the top 8 teams can this manager beat home or away ???
@@yaxiyaali2094 THIS 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
Don't you dare duck DR sports tomorrow Flexible
Man up and admit you are Ten Hag out. You are embarrassing yourself now
Shut up. I will be there
@@UnitedViewTV you will sit on my lap
@@UnitedViewTVgood
Fleck 😅😅 Cooking awaits losing 3nil to nobody Spurs this is embarrassing
@@UnitedViewTV don’t tell man shut up lol, u put urself in this position lool told u last year after Brighton beat us 3-1, he is stubborn and refuses to make the simple obvious changes, 1year later more United fans starting to sound like me
You are one of the main culprit with KG and Mark Goldbridge. The writing was on the wall all these time.
Don't forget those guys on Stretford paddock
@@sylvansingh766 "main culprit" , you acting like he has influence in club decisions.
Exactly 👏
Nah fuck your Saeed talking point think for yourself
Dont forget howson especially too on top of paddock
Two straight wins he will flip flop… AGAIN
So So True 😂
Abbi calls him flip flop flex for a reason.
“No way back” “rip it all up” hmmmmmmmm
I've heard that before 😂😂😂
Imagine😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@SqUidWaRdtheGreat209facts
Flip Flop Flex, I’m hearing? 👀
Dancing around the truth
I thought everything was different with ineos, new structure, Dan Ashworth, saved 10 million from Ugarte and all that crap😂
Ten hag just need some more Ajax players and Dutch
Ugarte is rubbish
@@ronpatel6640 it's so sad
More Ajax in the club that man utd academy players 😢😢😢
Saved 10million? Wasted 50, more like.
Still have a toxic dressing room due to certain senior players having too much power. Utd need to clear them out no matter how much they’re on.
Look at the poor guy man 😭 Ten Hag is killing Flex man!
😂😂😂 - flex needs to suffer. Dropping his real football opinion in the gutter for the life of a media guy. You don’t get to have your cake and eat it too. In life we need to back the decision we make. He made this choice. The real flex would have fired ten hag 18 months ago.
the chickens are coming home to roost. He and other channels have been pushing pro ten hag propaganda since his arrival despite all the evidence. He shares as much blame as ETH.
Exactly. Hes a naturally funny guy so the fak that he’s so grumpy everytime 😂😂😂
@@everythingarsenaltv true.... In as much as I enjoy United's downfall....it's sad seeing flex and even kg broken...
I saw a tweet that said Ten Hag has conceded 3 goals in 23 matches at man utd. That's nearly a 5th of his games. Come on people, you have to see that he's crap.
I need to hear the words flex. Say it
Rip it all up
😂😂😂
I’m calling it now. Ugarte is a FLOP!
He was a flop before he got here. He’s exactly who we bought.
He is hot garbage he actually has no legs
@@Yumchaday de ligt as well. Looked defeated
Ugarte is playing exactly how he played before we bought him. There wasn't even any fineprint on the purchase. But what Teghag is asking the 6 to do is unrealistic. One player supposed to plug all the gaps in the team? That was never going to happen
@@thedead073 💯
4:05 - “I don’t wanna watch it, we know what we’re gonna see” - Speaking as an Arsenal fan, we know what we’re going to see, and we all defo wanna watch!😂
AHAAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAHAH
This. Is. Beautiful 😍
Where is KiloGrams????
please, not that bell end! I cringe when he refers to our players and staff by their first names like he knows them. He loves "Rasmus", thinks he's world class. And in pre-season he was all over "Dan, Jason and Omar" like he's on first name terms with Berrada, Ashworth and Wilcox
How is This Fraud Marteniz Getting Away With It.
shocking isn't he. I called it from the moment we signed him. Absolutely awful defender but our thick as fuck fanbase buzz off him because they think he's a hardman. They love shit players as long as they pump their chest and act like a big man. See also, Ander Herrera and Gabriel Heinze. Dogshit, tactically indiscplined "passion merchants". Dalot isn't far off that bracket too. Lazy and stupid. Neither of them understand if your man runs past you, your job is to track their run, not just stand there and point!
As a liverpool supporter I think Ten Hag needs more time to gel his squad. He probably needs another 500m to get a few more ex Ajax players in. Trust the process. 😂😂
Yes. As an Arsenal fan, they need Frenkie De Jong. I know he has dodgy ankles and is injury prone but so is De Ligt. Complete the set.
FFF - Flip Flop Flex
I hope the new manager we get clears out every Ten Hag's signings because every single one of them have been shockingly crap plus get rid of Rashford he's robbing united for a living and as for Bruno time for him to go too they're simply not good enough
It's almost like signing a bunch of rejects from Bayern and PSG was a bad idea 🤔
I'lld keep BRUNO but, yeah RASHFORD HAS TO GO
You will have no players left if he does that
The Ten Haag fans said “give him his player and we will fly” out of 11 players, 8 were signed by him, and he gave contract extension to Rashford and Bruno.
Flip flop Flex , you always defending this mediocre team because you benefiting from the club with all these media access. You part of the problem
Better not be ducking for your licks tomorrow is going to be long old season.
Ive never seen flex like this!!! We're all hurt. I think tenhag is done
The mentality of the team is a reflection of the coach. He’s with them all week he’s implementing his core team values. Because ETH is mid table mentality the team will play mid table.
Your the same guy who told us back this manager. Fans like u KG and Goldbridge are also the problem with this club. smh
100 percent. We need fan channels with actual footballers running it so that they know what they are saying Mark does not even look like he played school football.
This has been the cycle of United since 2015. No manager has last more than 2 seasons. There’s a fundamental issue with the club and the mentality of the players. I’m not absolving Ten Hag but we’ve seen this story before
You have to question some of the players. Tactics out of possession not great, but that doesn’t mean players shouldn’t be giving to do the basics like tracking back and closing down runners. LB should not be able to run that far without a single challenge.
you ARE absolving ten hag though coming out with that uninformed nonsense. You are acting like there's a supernatural curse on the club. We've consistently hired managers that are either out of their depth or past it. It was glaringly obvious that every appointment post Ferguson would be, at best, competing for fourth spot in the league. Mourinho and van gaal were ten years past their best when they arrived in Manchester. Solskjaer, Moyes and 7hag were nowhere near the level of experience to take over a club of this size.
I'm sick of hearing that "the problems at the club" are responsible for this malaise. It really isn't that complicated. We'll be back to winning things if we actually hire a proper manager that has;
a) Managed in one of Europe's top leagues for a number of years;
b) Won leagues;
c) Isn't a decade past their sell-by date with horrendously outdated tactics.
@@highnoon7097 Where am I absolving the manager, but the players have to take responsibility for their decisions, performance and lack of effort. Is it the manager that tells the players not tackle, not to complete a 5 yard pass or capitulate when the going gets tough?
@@sirmarcus1 "There’s a fundamental issue with the club and the mentality"
Its utter bollocks. It isn't an issue with club or mentality. What part of this do you not understand... IF YOU HIRE A SECOND RATE MANAGER THEN YOU'LL GET SECOND RATE PERFORMANCES. Ten Hag is the worst coach in the league. He'd still be stinking out the place even if Old Trafford was a utopia behind the scenes.
There's so many fans like you that think "we've tried" with elite managers yet the reality is we haven't hired an elite manager yet.
Klopp came in at Liverpool and proved unequivocally that a team is only is as good as its manager. They'd had about 20 years of indifferent form. They had all that turmoil with their owners Gillet and Hicks. The same guff about "the club and mentality" was being spat out about Liverpool. Then they got a proper manager and all that became nothing more than background noise.
Stop blaming the factors aside from these SHITE managers we keep appointing.
@@highnoon7097 You’re misquoting me now. If the players had the right mentality why have we seen these capitulations so often? We’ve seen this under the last 4 full time managers. Both things can be true the manager isn’t good enough and the players have a weak mentality. You mentioned Klopp, didn’t he the club had to get players with the right mentality and that the club did.
Abbie and Ex coming for you mate, deserved also for disrespecting spurs in the previews
My brother we already knew this. Most fans just didn’t want the accept it. Ten Hag is pulling us down!!
Shocking takes. Any XI with garnacho starting by default cannot be considered our strongest, the evidence is there when he starts he's far less effective . He literally has 1 good starting performance this season, a start against league one opposition. He excels from the bench in limited minutes against tired legs the numbers back this up. Hes just not a good enough footballer and wouldn't start for any other team in the top 8.
The injurys last season was an excuse peddled by ETH apologists all teams face injuries, the way we played poorly had more to do with the managers tactics, coaching and selections. Hence our form mirroring last season despite less injuries and new squad additions.
Bruno is not a good captain, however he isn't a very good player either. over the last 3 league seasons with him being the main man weve finished 8th 3rd and 7th with him averaging just over 7 league assists in those years. The excuse pushed that its more to do with his united team mates is a fallacy. over. His last 2 knockout games for portugal at the EUROS 0 goal 0 assists pass completion hovering around 68%. This season for us 0 goals 1 league assist.
Casemiro didn't even start so i'm going to point out the baseless agenda against him, by comparison ugarte did nothing of note and were still defensively weak in the middle since he's introduction to the first team.
Finally ETH is the issue with him gutting the club of any players with quality and proven pedigree in world football and replacing them with dross bar de light and mazzouri. Any fan who doesnt think hes the issue despite us regressing finishing 8th after finishing 7th the season before his arrival. YOUR BONKERS!
Has to win at porto and villa or he’s done. Would be shocked if he remains. Good night
Get ready to be shocked.
Up to the end of last season, I regarded Flex as one of the best on RUclips. But, after you made your apology video about ETH out. I was like, no, he is as bad as the rest of them. I know football is emotional, but when I come to judging a coach, let's use the available data. The available data at the end of last said a lot about ETH not being the right to move us forward. Big clubs like Real Madrid put results above their feelings. We beat City because they had a bad day. That victory should not have been a reason to keep ETH.
In 12th place with -3 goal difference after just six games says it all. Can’t score and defence not helped by players who don’t track back or close down runners. You’re just too easy to score against.
the mentality of the players is on the floor because of the manager... you ever see players down tools for fergie, pep, or klopp? ten hag is a myth
exactly. The delusional fans think it isn't the manager's fault for demotivated lazy players. In any workplace, not just football, you get some managers that can motivate staff, and some just don't have that charisma you need to lead people. We've all worked for someone who is just incapable of lifting the workforce, whether they're a good bloke or a disciplinarian, some people just don't have what it takes to call the shots. That's sadly where 7hag finds himself. There's no respect for him. He's out of his depth.
Old Trafford has become cursed.
Ineos move different they said, they set high standards they said, well let’s see about that cos this is not acceptable at any level.
INEOS are as bad as Glazers if not worse.
Even at our worst Arsenal could still make more than 3 passes back to back. United struggle to move the ball and seem confused when they have to defend. They can't cross, aren't decent on set pieces. These players are simply bad, they can't command the field. Having said all that please, please! Keep him as manager forever 😂😂😂😂
Really, we want to see a video of the United players in training just to know what they are doing, or they just meet two hours before the match. It is not normal to make the same mistakes, even if you change players. They treated Mickey as if he were Messi, and the same thing happened in other matches.
Its the lack of goals period!!!, dont mind losing but no Goals!!!!
If we wanna try & salvage something from this season then Ineos have to act simple as that. We arent beating Porto or Villa. Tbh i dont know when our next win is gonna come from. Even under Ole we had a style of play
Ugarte cannot solve the “Casemiro Problem” which was created by ten Hag in the first place
Even if we win a game or two next it don’t paper over the cracks it’s time to go now Eric this football is just unacceptable
So Delicious seeing Flex humbled always predicting United for TOP 4 etc London glory following fan
The worst thing about this club is that the low standards that we have accepted for too long is making the club slowly regress. We can’t even compete in the second tier of European Football. Money has been spent, maybe not wisely, but the manager is not elite level and accept too much mediocrity from his players. SIR ALEX would have hairdried the players and cut their incentives after such a bad performance. Nope instead they get new contracts because they sell T shirts. We the fans can only blame ourselves for accepting the lower standards year after year and not actively going on strike against the club direction of commercial success over success on the pitch.
Dan Ashworth's walked into a volcano 🌋 The stadiums falling down enjoy. 😉
Aston villa will absolutely demolish us. I bet they can't wait to beat us. They don't even turn up at old trafford. I can't believe how bad and dumb those players are. The manager sets them to fail to open in midfield he doesn't even know that pack the midfield man erik man.
We'll end up winning that 1-2 and then we go again 😅😅😅😅
Can’t wait for flex to get cooked on DR Sports 😂
INEOS was about to give ETH an extremely well-deserved dismissal notice, but because of FA Cup final win and the reaction from fans like you and KG, they didn't dare to do it. And here we are.
Come on Flex ETH has got 2 trophies he needs another 2 seasons and he will get this right.
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Can't wait to hear from Abby
Ten Hag just looks so uninspiring standing there motionless and grim faced on the sideline. He just doesn’t act like a man you can believe in - there appears to be no passion or real emotion in him.
Yes, that second half pissed me really off that the players with ten man know decided, know we try. Absolutley shocking from a footballing side in the first half and from the mentality side overall.
We had to give ETH the benefit of the doubt after the FA cup win and the new board . But I was still on board with him but he has clearly lost the players . Stood there on the side shaking his head but its him who has picked the team and the way we approach it and set up. Time for him to go ! Rashford is the only denominator that has over seen the ins and outs of so many coaches. He must be fucking brilliant in training hes kidding everyone
Couldn’t agree more brother, it’s over, ETH ball is finished, Bruno should have been on the bench if you look at it logically, new style formation needed…..I backed him but it’s not good enough……..
BUYING YOUNG PLAYERS, WOULD BE TOO MUCH PRESSURE AT A CLUB LIKE MUFC. THEY WOULD UNDERPERFORM EVEN THO THEYVE BEEN GOOD IN THEIR PREVIOUS CLUBS AND THE BIG PLAYERS , MAN U RUIN THEIR CAREERS AND MAKE THEM USELESS
i feel for flex & i feel his frustration, but as an arsenal fan may this long continue. 8-2 still scars me till this day 🙏🏾
True, I'm a ETH fan but i'm getting annoyed with all of it now. - if they get rid of ETH then I wouldn't be losing any sleep.
Pep throwing the FA cup final was a masterstroke . The very definition of 4D chess..
Van de ven did a tutorial 101 for Rashford😂 explained exactly what fans expected him to perform on that dribble and cross in person.
Epic vindication for Ronaldo, Sancho, Bailly, Donny, Iqbal...
This 3rd year manager drop is ground hog day. We've been here before. Time the make the change.
Erik Ten Hag's era as man utd manager is coming to an end 😂
We are in this situation cause of fans like u..u guys deserve this ..
People was going crazy for Ineos but they left us mad light up top and they didn't get rid of rashy magwire or lindelof...
Finally, Flex is off the fence. No more yo yoing around.
I was gutted when we didn't make the change in the summer. For Man U to keep a manager who finishes 8th is one if the stupidest decisions ever. Blinded by a cup win and somehow forgetting the luck we had against Coventry, I was vex when they had their 4th goal disallowed because I knew this rubbish was coming. Even in that final, City were poor, gave us a goal, hit the post, should've had a penalty and we forgot all of that. The league is how you assess your season. Always should be. He needs to go now.
I think that this is a simple situation for Ineos. They did an end-of-season review and acted on it. The outcomes have been disappointing since then, so they should re-open their review for the purpose of attaining better outcomes.
The similarities between Chelsea and Utd have been very interesting over the past couple of seasons
nah TEN HAG IN BRUVV!! he didnt got exposed, its the player's fault he didnt got the player he wanted despite he spend over 600m
I'm an Arsenal fan and Flex is always fair with us, I'm here to do the same. That was never a Red, a yellow maybe.
How much longer do we have to take this crap? Ten hag hasn't got a f-ing clue mate. HALF A BILLION, 3 YEARS, 20+ PLAYERS and people still wanna blame everyone but him.
If Garnachos goal against Arsenal last season wasn’t given offside we would be top of the league right now
This is the problem with United. People keep saying United doesnt have a playing stlye. They do. Its call the Bruno+ Rashy style. They had been training 3 years to build a team around these two player. This is why they are always playing the same clueless way. This problem will be the same even if a new manager comes in and fall in love with them both. United must build a system that players need to fit it. Now what United had been doing and failing is because United had a system that was built to accommodate Bruno and Rashy. This is the biggest problem.
I wasn’t a surprise. Look at how we could have lost to Southampton and got so lucky with the pen miss, and we won 3-1 and I said then up against a better team we will get slapped. Coaching staff and the discipline of the players. We allow certain player to do what they want here and this is what happens
De Light and Ugarte are the most Man United signings ever. Totally surprised any of you went into this season with optimism. It’s hilarious
He should have gone last year it was clear. The FA cup win was an aberration.
I backed Ten Hag but not anymore, there’s NO hope with him in charge. He needs to go. Last year we could blame injuries but not this time. He spent £600mil, it’s his 3rd season and he’s talking about the team needs to press better. We have ZERO style of play and he’s tactically inept.
Today training at Carrington should be in the tv room with all 1st team players and play that first half again and again and again till lunch time.
3 years later and Flex finally calls it how it is… Please I’m begging untied to gave Ten Hag a new contract PLEASE 🙏
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Men underestimated what Fred was doing. Man had legs to get around and read the play well.
Just show up to DR tomorrow plz God don't run do the right thing lol
No fair!!! United played with 10 tired looking players and (although I didnt count) Spurs had about 18 (?) fighting fit players!!!
BUT.....as my Man.U. fan cousin said : " we got 2 trophiiiiiiiiies, you got zeroooooooo" (Im a Arsenal fan). You'll win at Porto and ETH will have his position cemented!!!!
Please keep Ten Hag, thats one worry less for us!!
This is why the eye test will always reign supreme. What your saying now Flex was true 2 years ago
I've just had enough of watching the games. We do nothing , not better at anything in each game. Waste of time
Flex said: Martinez is better than MVDV... What a joke... He also said that most of the Man UTD players are better than Spurs...
I don't blame Bruno though. He starts every game surely he is exhausted not just physically
While United were pathetic, United fans are acting like they lost 3-0 to Everton. Fact of the matter is that Spurs haven't got the results to match their performance this season, and should realistically be on 5 wins and a draw. Spurs won't get any credit but that's normal.
@@coolguy9616 100% agree
The worst part is Ineos prob wont pull the trigger anytime soon. We have to go through more pain until it finally happens. Im just different if i get punched up i move out the way and fight back i dont stand there getting abused. This manager waffles every interview and we never see progression. He needs to hit the road home
Flex just make sure you're on the review show tomorrow. 😂
Whose brilliant idea was it to invest in Mount for 60mill with an insane salary and hand over the iconic No.7 shirt to him, with the injury record we are seeing....
So you tomorrow on the show flex. Abbey is going to roast you soooo bad!
The cheek of this guy 😅 documented ETH lover
Man is hurting😂💔
Bring the U18 players to play. They will put in more heart than this lot. I really wanted this Ten Hag to work but obviously he is not as good as we thought. Ajax was a ruse
No style of play for over 3yrs from ETH. POS. He’s done. I can’t take it anymore.
Flex gets even more exhausted every time I see him do these videos
The team is making him tip over the edge
I'm not a Chelsea fans but INEOS please we need Ten Haag vs Sancho finale.