My Toyota Land Cruiser Is A Lemon...
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- Опубликовано: 10 май 2024
- Today I get help from Doug to fix my Toyota Land Cruiser!
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Don't let the manufacturers fool you with that post Covid BS. There is no excuse for poor build quality
As evidenced by all the 2022-24 Tundras with engine failures. Then again, the 2016-23 Tacoma had tons of issues too. So many that Consumer Reports even rated it least reliable midsize truck 3 or 4 years in a row.
@@hochhaul temm junk
Toyotas marketing team has been effective convincing people they’re ‘more’ reliable, but as someone who works on them everyday, they have just as many problems as everyone else
Finally someone sensible otherwise people are just praising toyota and not accepting that toyota can have problems. As a 2005 toyota camry xle v6 owner I had to spend 1300 dollars to fix the oil leak issue
For what it's worth, as an independent tech, who works on everything people can drag to the shop, People are bringing in their 300,000, 400,000 and higher mileage Toyota vehicles, for inevitable repairs, while most others, are headed for the scrap yard around the 250K mark. I'm in Michigan, so most stuff rusts to death in 12-15 years, regardless of manufacturer. Just my observation. In 30+ years of wrenching, my family fleet is mostly Toyota now.
I'm convinced these videos are a smear campaign toward Toyota real .... there is no way you're going to tell me after decades of reliability and quality Toyota just forgot or isn't engineering greatness ?
@@fettaboyproductions6022there are quality problems with the lexus gx and other new models. Even lexus lx 600 isnt prone to such issues. The biggest indicator of falling quality levels of lexus lx is the sound system of lx 60/ . Compare it to the ancient one offered in 570. The sound system in 570 was the top 5/=best systems to come out of the factory. Sound if was insane. Only one reviewer tests the sound system. The gx550 has plastic all over unfortunately. No beige interior. No aluminium grill instead a plastic unfinished one.
For a new vehicle with only 14k miles there should be absolutely zero issues with it. The dealer should fix completely especially if you are saying that there’s a rust issue I can’t believe on such a new vehicle. I avoid buying vehicles with a sunroof just because stuff gets in the drain holes and clogs also causing leaks. Good luck Ben .
That problem will return in 6 months maybe a year maybe two. It’s always going to be playing in your mind. So as you stated, it’s time to kick the can down the road. Dump it and move on to the next. 😊
Yup I agree with you fully, I’d replace it with a LX600 or Seqouia personally, G-Wagon is nice but very expensive
Replace it with LC 76
Or maybe LC 80 to make it less painful
Can I buy it for 60000 😂
Get rid of it while the light is off. It is a car after all and no need to have the headache and the expense.
Maybe it's time for Ben Hardy to visit The Car Care Nut. Two RUclips channels collaborating might be interesting.
Ben, my heart goes out to you. Can't you either sue the dealer for selling a defective used car or take this issue up with the State Attorney Generals Office as Toyota is NOT supporting a defective safety mechanism. There has to be SOME course of action. What about legal recourse in the states from which you bought it from?
Ooooh what happened to Toyota reliability?
Everyone forgets it was z27 years ago, gdamn this channel is …….who watches this ?
Nothing
@@Flamefuels lmao he hateing that toyta isnt what people think my are lmaoo the nwer arent any better ether
There’s more to the story. There has to be a reason Toyota didn’t/isn’t covering a problem on 2021 model that is still under the original factory warranty.
Absolutely. This doesn't pass the sniff test.
There is a reason, they don’t honour their warranty the same as most other manufacturers, I’ve owned both the 100 and 200 series and had nothing but trouble with both and Toyota were appalling to deal with, there vehicles are overpriced and overrated, and parts cost an arm and a leg. They can stick their Landcruisers, I won’t go near one again.
Sunroofs… one more complication in A vehicle. People act like I am silly for not wanting a sunroof in any of my cars… if I want the sun, I drive my convertible on nice days.
✅️✅️✅️👍👍👍
True but at the same time I love having a sunroof. It helps that I’m the type who likes cleaning and doing maintenance though.
Been driving vehicles with sunroofs for over 30 yrs without a problem.
@@jskaggs8188 Yeah, I've never had major problems from them, I've owned cars with them, but I always knew to check and make sure the drains are working.. via pouring water in the tracks with them open... and making sure comes out the right spot... if not have to address cleaning with a contraption of sorts or compressed air... I just don't open it enough to make it worth the hassle. I also try to keep cars longer than the average owner. So, it's just a simple risk/benefit analysis for me, basically no reward but risk of issues..
Nuh uh this is all bs just admit you are broke and jealous. Sunroof are a must I can't stand a car without that. Sunroofs should be made compulsory in every car no matter what.
It's a real shame, Toyota should help out. I had an 18 for a while and swapped it for an earlier 200 series. Just didn't like all the unnecessary bells and whistles
In all honesty Ben, it depends on what the problem was and how it was fixed. For example... If it was just a harness issue that was affected by moisture, this is an easy fix and may never be a problem again if proper repaired. You may be able to slow or stop the rust as long as the leak is plugged. As long as there are no other weird voltergeists lingering within, you may have a good vehicle to keep without any other major issues. Harness and corrosion issues are some of the hardest problems to find but are also cheap & easy to correct and prevent from happening again. Just my 2 cents.
Toyota and Lexus does not have universal reliability across their entire lineup of vehicles a complete fallacy to believe that. Toyota Corolla Hybrid, Toyota RAV4 Hybrid, Toyota 4Runner 4.0L V6, Lexus GX 460 and many others have high reliability. But they should be made in Japan and the ones I mentioned don't have turbo charged engines. Don't believe that a new Toyota Land Cruiser with a turbo engine is going to be as reliable as a naturally aspired engine. FYI I own and drive a 2021 Lexus GX 460 4.6L V8, 2022 Toyota RAV4 XLE Hybrid in Silver and 2023 Toyota RAV4 SE Hybrid in Cavalry Blue. I use 91 Octane premium gas in all my vehicles. The Lexus GX 460 and two RAV4 Hybrids are made in Japan and so far not a single problem they run perfect.
IMO keep it...odds are it will run forever at this point...every car has a gremlin hidden somewhere...you found yours early and fixed in...seal the wireharness area, stop water from getting in anywhere and enjoy. Changing cars at this point only opens you up to another car with another issue that you don't know about...
Go check out an LX 570, particularly a '19 or '20 (pre-COVID) with low miles. Best vehicle I've ever owned.
We recently got a CPO 2019 GX460….absolutely great vehicle!! I wouldn’t buy anything that was built during the covid years.
Get rid of it. When I found out my 2022 Bronco Sport wasn't welded together correctly right from the factory, I got rid of it and I owned it for only 6 months! (it had water leaks in the front and rear! )
Wow! I've heard the Broncos have had quite a few issues.
@@Blue-moon12 I'm just glad I got rid of it.
@@wizeguiz what did you get in its place? That's the problem... it feels like there are no modern, off-road capable vehicles which are as reliable as the old school 4x4's.
@@asplmn A Dodge Challenger and a Jeep Cherokee Trailhawk!
I grew out my hair for the same reason. Not like I style it or curl it. I’m a guy and just wanted to see what it was like. I have a full head of long hair but still tuck it into a beanie or hat all the time
The previous owner either left the sunroof open or something similar to allow water in, which is most likely why it’s smells like cologne to cover up damp odors would be my bet. The fact wires were disconnected leads me to believe someone was in there before you got it. Sounds like someone pawned their problem off on you which stinks.
Hopefully it’s good now.
100% get rid of it. I had similar issues with my 2022 Roush f150 - heated and cooled seats didn’t work - ford couldn’t fix it (6 visits - never operational). I got rid of that truck 2 weekends ago and I feel so much better. Get rid of it.
I will keep driving my 2016 F150. These newer vehicles have way too many electronics and sensors
Brokie.
check the windshield seal at the top. My ram had this issue and the symptoms were very similar to yours.
I would guess there is a leak in the sunroof seal and/or the sunroof drainage lines are clogged (forcing water into the car instead of underneath the car). No other reason there would be rust under the headliner.
They found no sunroof leaks
There are 3500 owners of a 2021 Land Cruiser 200 series in the United States. I’m one of them. It’s been the line messy of cars. I’ve had it for three years and it drives like it’s brand new. It’s the best vehicle I’ve ever owned. It’s the best vehicle money can buy. Mine will run for another 20 years and I will pass it down to my son. Again not to beat the dead horse perhaps is the one percent but the Land Cruiser 200 series is quite the best vehicle ever made. I think that’s not debatable.
Does the service history show anything regarding the airbag light? You wont have any problem selling it. I did pretty good with my 21 Heritage. I just really disliked the 8 speed trans. So I let it go and made 5k on it. Been happy with my GX460 that I replaced it with.
It doesnt rain in Vegas so that wouldnt be an issue. Are you trading it in?
Get that beard trimmed!
A haircut wouldn’t hurt anything either.
GX550 overtrail coming up next?
There is ALWAYS the INEOS for the replacement!
Toyota quality isn’t good anymore. Sad. Also for some reason their dealer support is horrible.
Maybe a clock spring issue
The other option is to go to the dealer and purchase the full tilt extended warranty.get an oil change if necessary for the inspection.
If the dealer has a record, it will not be fixed with an extended warranty
@@eseir64 he didn’t go to a dealer for the repair, he went to an independent. He should go back to the dealer that sold him the vehicle or to a Toyota dealer and see if either will handle a warranty with him.
I would like to see a video on why it’s not covered under warranty.
Could also be a cracked seam or a shitty windshield install. Rust doesnt detach wires so somebody has been up above that headliner. That truck could've had a shitty lightbar and they ran wiring somewhere causing a leak in the roof.
Ben, I cannot wait to get my hands on the new Maverick Raptor.
I've an ecosport RAPTOR 6X6
Those are sick. Best MPG for the Raptor series. 72 MPGs, can’t beat it
Didn't the Air Bag Light come on after the battery drain ? Just reset the lights and start using it more. A lot of vehicles experience Christmas tree lights on the dash after battery voltage drops... Nothing new there.
1:17 Yeah I understand, I am also trying to grow out my hair too!!
Just buy the new land cruiser when it comes out
My guess is the sunroof was leaking and the dealership replaced the seal while you were waiting for delivery.
It might have been someone that has forgotten to close the sunroof on days/months while sitting on the lot and caused that water damage. Then the interior might have been soaked and got musty. Then they decided to clean/detail it. After cleaning, everything looks good smells good and a few days after, the musty smell is there so they might have ventilated it and dried it. And after those remedies, they might have tried to mask the smell with cologne to minimize detection.
I remember we tried to buy a low mileage BMW X6 a few years back and the car was in excellent condition like 9/10 with low mileage for the year model and the price was reasonable. We’ve test driven it and keenly observed it in decent daylight and I can’t find a fault. I have this gut feeling that they are hiding something so we decided to have it Pre-purchased inspected at a BMW dealer. They kinda hesitated at first and pressured us to buy the car if the PPI was OK and it was written on the contract. So we agreed, Inspection appointment day came and they were late for some reason. The BMW dealer that conducted the inspection noted that the car arrived extremely clean, however, the OBD2 port cover in laying on the driver seat footwell with greasy stains near the OBD port and under dashboard. Well, what do you know. The car seems to have been in an accident on its entire right side. (clean carfax) There are fine water level marks on the passenger side doors, the liftgate was no aligned and there are mud in the electrical harnesses on the door. (car suspected to have been in a ditch with water on its right side). BMW ran ISTA diagnostics and all the electrical faults show up, such as side impact airbag fault, door lock fault, fuel cap fault and a bunch of other electrical faults. Good thing we did a PPI. it was a potential money pit and above all a safety concern.
Nice info get the Nissan juke
This is why I don't get used cars. I worked at a dealer in college and the used car dept was shockingly shady and uncouth. Def was a life lesson in reality at 20 years old.....btw hate the v6 in the Raptor, sounds terrible, esp for the price you pay.
I only buy low mileage used cars with clean car fax and UNDER WARRANTY. I have yet to have a bad history and if there is one, I am forced to get rid of it, my loss would be much less than buying a new lemon
@eseir64 yea but as Ben just said, they denied basic things under a warranty still in effect. Seems like a roll of the dice.
Here's something that really stands out to me. Every Toyota I've seen for the last 20 years has an emblem on the back that says V6 or V8. How come Toyota doesn't put the I4 emblem on these things? They do put an IForceMax one, but that's to tout the electric assist. It's clear that even Toyota knows that "I4" is not emblem-worthy.
lol nobody wants to show the world that they bought an $70k+ vehicle with a 4 banger
That is true.
That's great that the wiring was repairable. A few pictures of what was going on there would be cool to see.
I'd say there's almost no way anybody took the headliner down to look at things at the dealer - they were just going off codes and pattern failures, and wanted to ship that car out, thus the high price estimate.
They looked
@@BenHardyCars So what did they think was not repairable and it needed an entire harness?
Trade it now while it's fixed!
Wow, the dreaded airbag light, sucks that its happening to your Land Cruiser with so little mileage. I've got the Nissan equivalent in my 2012 Armada, I've narrowed it down to the front crash sensor, a module in the console, or the driver's airbag itself. I kind of wish my code reader could identify which one of the 3 is bad, lol. Though that's more of how Nissan coded it, something only a dealer can do.
Sorry to hear man but as I told you when you asked for our comments, you should have gotten the GX550 or to the very least the new Land Cruiser with the state of the art Hybrid 2.4. Next time should’ve listened 😂
This is sarcasm, right? lol
People are already finding major issues with the turbo 3.5L V6 in the GX 550 / LX 600 and having to have a short block replacement at 20k-40k miles.
I expect reliability to only get worse, not better, with these latest generations.
Attorney Steve Lehto has entered the chat.
I would encourage you to troubleshoot the leak. You should have shown the vehicle with the lining removed. You’re a nice guy but cmon one big issue and you have given up and ready to move on. Fix it and have a vehicle that is in all other regards in great shape.
Goodluck on the hair. Took me about 2 years to be long enough to style it and not be In that awkward in between stage.
Dude bought a flooded car and didn't even know it.
As a balding guy, I’m so jealous of your great hair! 🥲
Having those issues with one of the most reliable vehicles ever made would definitely leave a bad taste in my mouth.
Rust in the roof area is just bad!!!!
“I forgot how well built the gen 2 raptor is”…. All I can hear is plastic creaking just sitting there. 🤮
Sorry you're having issues and it has soured your opinion of your Land Cruiser. If it were me, even though the issues appear to have been resolved, they would always linger in the back of my mind and wondering when they would return. I'd never be 100% happy with the vehicle again. I think it might be time to sell it and buy another one. There are lessons learned here though :). Even when you're buying from a "dealer friend". always insist on a pre-purchase inspection (I would never EVER buy any used vehicle without one, not even a Toyota) which should always include an odbii scan. You would have been able to tell if there were codes that had been previously reset. If the sunroof isn't leaking, the next place I would check is where the roof rack mounts. Maybe look for a 2020 with low milage and stay away from the 2021 which I've heard of having a few common issues.
Sell the Land Cruiser and the Bronco on Cars and bids or Bring a Trailer with a reserve just in case. Then Get the New Lexus GX.
Such a shame, especially since my mom's '05 Sequoia was the most solid car she's ever had. Kept it for 10 years, only reason she traded was because she no longer needed such a big car. Expedition Timberline or Yukon Z71 time!
PUNT! See ya Land Cruiser!
Such luck. I have had 15 land cruisers in my life and not one had any problem. My oldest is 1990 70 series.
Have you owned a 200 series?
@@asplmn yep. I have a 2014 LX570, basically 200 series with a suit.
@@BunderaKZT Beautiful. I have a '20 LX 570 -- hoping that it is headache free for a very long time.
Being you have a RUclips channel and you have been showing the issues………finding somewhere to trade it at?????? Could be interesting.
Good Video!
According to your physic, you best get a bicycle.
The bicycle will go well with or without your long lochs.
Everyone on here. "get rid of it." Zero of them are Land Cruiser owners. straight up the most reliable vehicle on the road and the longest ownership >10 years. I have 5 currently and have had 20 in the last 6 years.
I had one that had an exhaust leak into the cabin that Toyota couldn't fix. They bought it back, but the point isn't that the LC is bad it's that this particular one is bad. Even Toyota makes lemons.
Owned any 200 series? Seems that, averaged out, the 200 series are very well built and reliable.
@@asplmn yes current 2017, 2000, 1997, 1994 (LS swapped), and picking up the new 250 on Wednesday.
Yep, and you'll notice that nearly all of them had Fords 🤣.
I'm in Aus and had a lemon Ford Everest in 2016. Replaced it with a Toyota Fortuner. No problems but sold it and now have a 2009 LC200 with 4.5litre V8 diesel - the ultimate machine. It has 200,000 miles and runs like a Swiss watch.
My advice would be to keep the Cruiser.
@@garrygraham So, did you see what Ben replaced it with? 😆
“It feels like a lot to handle”
That’s what she said..
Punt LC and get a 5th Gen 4Runner before they are gone.
I got a new 2023 Sierra elevation 2.7 that’s been a lemon also transmission issues harsh downshifts dealership gives me the run around reprogramming bs lol
Get a Toyota Corolla
My last Silverado was a complete lemon. Traded it before the warranty expired and would never buy GM again.
Again, why have 2 of the same, expensive vehicles? However, I’d keep it for now and save money. Sell the other vehicle. Put that money in savings/college fund. Then take your time if you insist on replacing the gray LC.
After my experience with A Toyota dealership near me. I will never go back to any of them. I went in with my 2 Gen. Tacoma with an issue. They quoted me over $4000 saying I had to open up my engine and replace a bunch of parts internal.I took it to another mechanic.They replaced the VVT syllanoid. And the truck was perfect.
The mechanic at the dealership was trying to buy my truck for Me, that felt very shady.
CPO!!
I’ve always bragged about the Land Cruiser but now I don’t know.
What Toyotas are not perfect. They breakdown just as much as any other car
They break down, but i wouldn't say as much as any other car.
Trust your gut and move it down the road. It's just a tool. You won't regret it!
I shouldn’t have sold my 20 raptor.
Have fun with your hair it’s yours not theirs, also nice Range Rover
Ben you look good with long hair it's up to you Ben what you decide on a vehicle
Honestly Ben ,it’s time to cut your losses and get rid of the Landcruiser. I would go after the 2025 4 Runner.
2020 4 runner is better quality
I thought you were gonna say it’s time to cut your hair.
Oh, Toyota...
Send it to the auction. lol
Buy a 2024 4Runner, great vehicles
Like the long hair. I’ve had long and short my whole life. Had to cut it short for surgery late last year… was thinking about doing the short hair pointy beard thing but didn’t want to be forced into it. Just keep your beard even.
Try reaching out to Toyota of Japan…. Might have better luck.
Imagine how hard it would be to fix modern vehicles if Land Cruiser is like this....
Get rid of it !! Move on I just had to get rid of my 2019 A6 because of electrical issues lost about $18,000
Have your attorney contact Toyota. Usually they will fix the problem, they don't like lawsuits. The states attorney general will usually take the case as well, they often will fight for your rights...
Sorry about all this-maybe if light goes off- hurry down to a Ford dealer!!
Good idea growing out your hair because you're going bald faster than you go through cars Ben.
I just have a big forehead
Get a nissan armada for less thsn half the price. toyota is overpriced and not as reliable as people like to claim.
you owned it for a month thar qualifies for a Doug Hardy long term review
hello Ben ,
consider an f150 lariat.
just enough luxury with off road capabilities.
You don't have many haircuts left. Might as well let it grow out before you finally lose it all. 🤓
Lol
Nothing wrong with going with an Amish look
Quality is no longer a reliable feature on most new Toyota and Honda's along with the usual suspect domestic brands. Good for you growing out your hair - it will take time but the results will be worth it. At least you're not growing out your ear hair and trying to train it into a ponytail!
I’m 58 years old. To me these newer vehicles rusting out. Is mind-boggling. I get it a car 30 years old rusty totally understandable. But a five-year-old vehicle with rust issues. Didn’t Toyota have rusty frame issues. Along with General Motors. What are they mixing into the metals that they use for a car that rusts so quickly. It’s unacceptable.
You're gonna lose money selling it and buying something else. I'd keep it
Just buy suburban since all these car manufacturers are now following GM play book of throw away cars.
I didn't see anything wrong with the defender😮 im actually in the market for one right now! Lease offcourse
people talking about your hair is a big part of having long hair.. lol
I suggest a Ranger Raptor as your next vehicle only because I'm interested in that vehicle.
Ben, I feel for you--it's a horrible feeling to not have confidence in your vehicle, and especially this one I believe is for your wife and child to cruise around in, correct? Sounds like it may be time to bid farewell to this one, and find another vehicle that you'll feel better about providing solid, dependable transportation for your wife and child. Toyotas usually are reliable (I am on my 9th Toyota), but it doesn't mean that one once in a while slips through the cracks, just wasn't built quite well enough, etc., but this is a disturbing problem this early on with this car. You solved A problem (the airbag light) for now, but not sure it is THE problem (i.e., how's moisture getting in there?), and if the root problem isn't solved, then it is not a matter of if but rather "when" that root problem causes ancillary problems down the road. Feels like 3rd and long deep in your own territory, so time to punt!
If it come again Open the speedometer and disconnect the Airbag light 😅
Lol
Check the roof rack seals/screws, dumb folks who don’t know a thing about turning a wrench can mess things up by accident.