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Pro tip, add the correct amount of Sea Foam to the empty fuel cans prior to filling them up at the gas station and let the pump do a much better job of mixing for you.
I drank a bottle of Woodford Reserve - Burbon during the 3 days of Hurricane Mathew in Florida. Makes family time more fun! Especially since we lost power for 3 days!
I'm searching videos for random purposes and happened to need to know about gasoline storage.... and YOU pop up in my search window again! You've gotta be some sort of genius! Thanks for the info!
Thanks for the video SC, many of us are "brothers-in-arms" doing the gas rotation pilgrimage. For anybody reading this, several years ago I left 1 of my 5 gallon gas cans deliberately untreated for 6 months. Ran a gallon of it in the generator, the engine had a small stutter every 30 seconds, or so. Added an ounce of stabilizer, stutter immediately disappeared.
I think 4-cycle engines are more tolerant but my chainsaw does not like having old gas in it. I try to make sure I run it dry if I'm not going to use it for a while, otherwise the carb gums up.
Thank you for this comment because I bought gas 6-8 months ago and never knew about stabilizer. I’m a female trying to get ready for anything. Do you think it will be fine if I add the stabilizer now to store for a period of time?
@@eaglewingsministries8571 you can add seafoam at any time, but if it was sitting 6 to 8 months untreated, try to use it up and then store fresh gas mixed with seafoam
Love your channel SC! I used to store 30 gallons of gas and had a storm knock out power for 4 days. It lasted till the grid was fixed as I only ran it for 90 minutes in the morning to get the tankless furnace and heat, then from 4pm till about 10pm to keep the fridge and freezer frozen. I have since switched to a hybrid propane generator and have 6 tanks in the shed that will last many years with zero intervention.
Thank you very much I appreciate that. Being prepared pays off huge when a big issue hit. It's great to have the fuel you need on hand. Crises like hat will always happen at some point.
I used PRI-G for gasoline. I used PRI-D for diesel fuel. If you refresh your fuel once a year with a PRI-product it can last for up to 10 years of storage. Amazing stuff.
I converted my old 7500 watt generator to run on propane, and keep (12) 30 pound tanks stored in a safe place for use during emergencies. My generator runs 22 hours non-stop on a 30 pound tank. Before the conversion, I did a similar gas rotation using (10) 5-gallon cans, ethanol free premium and Seafoam. I never had an issue, but got tired of dealing with the gas.
@@alastexmex Hi Rudy, I did it myself. It was very easy to do on the generator that I did it on, because there was enough room to install the propane injector part between the carburator and intake without modifying the frame or covers. I watched several videos here on RUclips, and I think you should be able to find a video on your specific model. You mount a regulator onto the frame that the propane hose connects to. From the regulator a smaller hose to the propane injector part. To start, you open propane tank, press a button on the regulator for about 3 seconds, and the generator will fire right up. Generators do make less power running on propane vs gas. Almost 10% less, so a 10,000 watt generator becomes a 9,000 watt generator on propane. That's the only negative. In my case, the generator runs all our stuff fine on propane, and storing propane long term is so much more convenient than hoarding gas every time a hurricane is approaching.
One thing I forgot to mention, what I do differently is add the stabilizer to the empty cans, then fill them up at the gas station so the gas stream mixes really well with the stabilizer. Probably doesn't make any big different, just prevents you having to shake up the full gas jug.
Great video! Coincidentally, I store the exact same amount stabilized in similar containers in my shed and rotate every 6 months to a year through my vehicles so I'm not wasting any gas. My generator powers most of my house, everything but the AC (I wouldn't try it) and with my fuel storage I figure I can run it sparingly (a few hours a day) for about a month if need be. I'd like to double my fuel storage in the future, and pick up a smaller generator too to have a backup to my primary one.
That’s even more often than I do. I stretch it to one year only since it works out well since I’m winter I use the fuel for generator emergencies and in summer I burn it all up mowing grass. Thank you for watching and the comment.
This is exactly the way I treat storage gas.Your remarks, even down to your comments about stabil, are precisely the way I feel about fuel storage. Jeez, we're both brainiacs.
I have an old 4 cylinder Kohler water cooled generator. I've burned gas that was at least 5 years old in it and it never missed a beat. During Sandy we ran it for a week on gas that came out of junk cars.
@@billwilson3665 Yeah nothing like burning free gas in a free generator. Damn thing ran the whole house as long as I didn't try to dry clothes or use too many burners on the stove at once
ethanol seperates much faster than gas bottom will be water if any , next alcohal and last will be gas so if its a gravity feed fuel system i wouldnt do it these days and newer 2 strokes hate water in the cylinders
@@slongger We own a auto and truck repair shop. Out in the back we have about an acre of junk cars and trucks. I'd say we sell a load of 4 cars to the scrap yard the next block over about every month. I've yet to see anything that has been registered in the last 10 years have a tank of bad gas it it. We just filter it and burn it in our own trucks.
I got a few acres myself . All old chevy trucks from the 40s through the early 70s. I cant sell nothing though. I think of it as my retirement fund but even then it will be tough. I got around 24 I think.
@@cindytepper8878 I do know that old gas can be used, I was just trying to let people know its not the same as it used to be. The corrosion from Ethanol will eat into carbs and destroy them. When you finish running it , run it dry so no fuel remains in the float bowl.
My 2 cents: I use SeaFoam occasionally to clean the carbs. When it works it’s almost instantaneous. I prefer StarTron year round in the boat, motorcycles, mowers , snow blowers, etc. StaBil goes from a ruby red to a coffee brown in its own bottle after 6 months or so. I can’t comment on the green StaBil - I haven’t tried it. Great videos. Thanks!
I've been using Seafoam for my motorcycles and lawn tractor over the winter months and it just plain works. The engines start up in the spring like they did in the fall, no problem. I run some thru the engines mid-summer also to make sure the fuel system stays clean. It works for me. I've been using it for 6 years now and it's never failed me.
That's great to hear. The stuff has never let me down. I can't say that for some of the others. I will never switch. Stuff is amazing. Thank you for the comment and for watching. Best wishes.
Thanks for producing this and the link to the racing gasoline containers. I did not know those existed, but they sound like a great idea. I viewed another RUclipsr recently with generator-related content. He recommended using ethanol-free 93+ octane racing fuel. The disadvantage to racing fuel, purchased in a five gallon steel containers, is the cost: $65/five gallons. (I can only imaging the shipping cost ordered from the supplier's website!). Thank you again. I also very much appreciate your call out of Sea-Foam and the fact you are not sponsored by it. Yours a true unsolicited testimonial.
Glad you like it. I run a huge amount of gear all types and I never buy thanol free gas ever. I keep what you saw in my shed for a year + with no issues. Th racing fuel myth is just that and there is no need for it on any gear made in the last 20 years. You will save a lot of time and trouble and seafoam works perfectly for me. Glad you found this useful Happy holidays!
I also add seafoam to my 2-cycle oil/gax mix. With that plus using synthetic 2 cycle oil, my weed trimmers and blower have zero issues year after year and are over 8 years old.
I had gas stored in the garage for like 2 years without stabilizers. When the time came to empty the container (right, overdue lol), it was a little bloated from expansion and I could tell there was some evaporation. There were no precipitates, no any change in liquidity. Figured I'd stick it in a truck going on empty. There were no stalls or knocks or anything that seemed out of the ordinary. Perhaps maybe a bit less efficiency, but no ill effects.
This video has been in my "watch later" forever. Finally gave it a watch tonight. Good idea on the Sea Foam. I live in hurricane country and have the same fuel issues. Will give this a try. I use metal Justrite fuel cans because I think they're safer than the plastic. As for generators, my advice is to buy "just enough" generator for what you need. A Honda EU2000 will run all day on a gallon of fuel, and run a refrigerator and a few other odds and ends.
thank you so much for recommending Seafoam product, my Honda 7000ISFI was not starting because I left the gasoline a couple of months in, I pour 2oz of Seafoam and the Generator just started working. You got a new subscriber from Puerto Rico. 👍
I have been using seafoam in my vehicles, both gas and diesel. I didn't know you can use it as to stabilize fuel for storage. I have had mechanics at two different places tell me fuel starts braking after a month. Currently I use stabile. Mechanics also told me to only use 91 octane from chevron because cheaper gas has water in it. Well, I've gotten water from every gas station over the years. But lately I've only been using chevron because of convenience and the diesel price is the same in my area. I always need to have gas on hand for a pump to water my cattle and for the mower and generator and our old tractor.
I concur. I use Sea Foam in my gasoline t store it as well when I use it immediately. I am also fortunate to get Non-etanol gasoline. I still use the Sea Foam. Thanks for the video, Silver Cymbal. Have a fine week.
Houndsman One I do exactly the same as you. Non e gas and sea foam. Every year I put it in my car. If I need my generators, I need em RIGHT NOW. If I spend an extra few bucks too bad. We had an outage several years ago that covered a wide territory. No electricity to run the pumps within 35 or 40 miles. Not happening to me again.
You're absolutely correct Johnnybeanz1. We experienced a severe hurricane last year (Florence) and everything you mentioned actually happened. This year's hurricane Dorian prompted me to purchase 5 additional 5-gallon gas cans, 2 diesel cans, and two window AC units (first time I ever did that). We were fortunate that Dorian was mild but Humberto and whatever else is being closely monitored by me (Houndsman One) 😊. Thanks for the reinforced confirmation that I'm not an over-kill prepper (ha). Have a fine week, Johnnybeanz1. Thumbs up to ya! 👍
Storing away from garage and home is wisdom. We had a garage fire on Christmas Eve. We lost everything in 4 car garage. Thankfully the shop was 220’ from our home.
I use the same jugs and same system, only using one nozzle. You may have noticed on the non-nozzle caps, if you tip the jug over gas can seep out between the cap and center plug. Allowing air in. I took the plugs out, wrapped them with teflon tap, and screwed them back into the cap. It solved the problem. I also noticed some of my jugs required the cap good and tight to seal. So I always tip them to ensure everything is sealed.
I keep three five gallons gas cans on hand. When a can needs refilling, I add Stabilfuel and fill the can with ethanol free gas. Each can is numbered, and each is labeled with the fill date. I keep using the cans in sequence, and any can going on a year old, gets put in my car and then refilled. I have two generators and a riding mower using the fuel.
I used to use Seafoam. After a few years of use all the small engines had carb problems. The fuel in the bowl would evaporate at a quicker rate and left a white powder behind, which would clog the small orifices and passages in the carb. PIA to clean every carb out! Went to non-oxy fuel and that's it, have not have one carb issue due to that stabilizer since!
solid well informed videos - same here. I enjoyed your Huge New Honda Gen vid too.( Goals !! ) . one day i will invest. until then I use a Honeywell 7500E - but I do the exact thing you do for fuel and containers- SeaFoam - for ALL my small engines too - it also can be put in the oil tanks too. 100% agree with your video ! Thanx for your time and effort in producing one. no nonsense or rambling! have a good winter !!
I don't use any additives or stabilizers. What I do is every month, I empty out one can of gas into my car's tank. I refill the can, then put it back at the end of the line of gas cans. So if you have 5 cans, your oldest gas will never be older than 5 months.
I love my VP race jugs for “immediate” use. But I have found that steel gas (jerry type) cans are FAR better for long term storage. Found a steel can in my fathers barn that was every bit of 5 years old. Smelled just like the day it was put in there. Just some information to consider.
Love the Quick fill no spill gas containers. I use regular gasoline from the 60’s (Leaded) in 55 gallon steel drums. It’s untreated it hasn’t gone stale. I’m thinking the new blends and unleaded are purposely made unstable. Ethanol and others require stabilized treatment. Farm gas is the way to go if you want to keep it for a long time. White gas is even better, I have used stuff from the 40’s it will light the Coleman lamps and stove without any problems.
Interesting, I got tired of it ruining my white gas containers and staining them all red. I had issues one year also and the gas was bad. It might be great stuff but seafoam for me has bee incredible and using it for tuneups too has really worked.
tires2burn you are incorrect. If you buy a 32oz bottle of sta-bil you don’t have treat 80 gallons right away. It’s good for two years once cracked open.
It's a money making scam! Now some gas stations offer recreational fuel which is 100 percent pure gasoline. That's what used to be at the pumps now it is around 4 dollars a gallon!! What a crock!! It's called marketing, the whole system is engineered to F the consumer and nobody cares! People just except it!!
@@rkstr9965 check boat marina's, if you find it there it'll be a bit pricey though. The state slaps an environmental extra tax on it because the pumps are out on the water at the end of the boat docks. Good luck.
@@stevehairston9940 thanks for the recommendation. Sounds like pure gasoline is only available at airports & marina's. Probably works for a couple gallons in a lawn mower but not feasible for a car or truck.
Great gasoline storage plan. Fortunately, I live in an area of the country with wide availability of 100% gasoline. I use it exclusively in my small engines and do the same rotation. It costs about .40 cents more per gallon, but well worth it to avoid ethanol.
You are very fortunate but I have to say despite using 1000s of gallons of fuel in small equipment with the way I described in my video using Seafoam I have never had one issue even with some fuel stabilized over 2 years so I am pretty happy with it. Thank you for watching and best wishes to you.
The best fuel stabilizer is called Pri-G. It not only stabilizes, but you can add it to old gas and it will rejuvenate the old gas. They also make Pri-D for diesel.
Hi Jason, I just looked up Pri-G on amazon. They make gas treatments as well as gas stabilizer. Which one are you referring to that you had good results with long term storage as well as rejuvenate old gas? Thanks in advance!
Great info....still not sure of the best portable generator for my central Florida 2 bedroom home and shop ? I traveled through the country for 30 + years and sure do miss SONOCO 107 octane at a few of their stations...$1.07 comes to mind the last time I bought it :)...yes..these were the good old days...25 cents a gallon in the mid 60's POSTED AUTO SPEED LIMIT IN PENNSYLVANIA....Cars 85 mph ....Trucks 75 mph.....you could go around 5-10 over and it was cool with the cops.
Wow, I've been a fan of Seafoam for years but I never even noticed that it says it stabilizes fuel right on the can.. Might give it a try although I've been using Stabil for 10 years now and haven't had any negative effects, nor any of the staining you mentioned.
I like the rotation cycle from 3months(gas alone) to a year with the additive. In my poorer days, I kept two thermos cans in the trunk that bailed me out, to get to a gas station.⛽
I store gas for 6 months and have always had good luck with Stabil. Manufacturers have been recommending that stuff for decades but I also use Seafoam which actually works like a tuneup in the can. I pour in a can to my gas tank and then fill it up.
I used to use Stabil, but I only had a motorcycle... now I've added a whole push mower and a trimmer cause not in an apt anymore. I would buy the bottle and not use half of it before it would expire. One day this guy starts praising Seafoam and telling me I should switch because it doesn't expire... so I switched, lol.
Jack Smith I also use ethanol-free gas in all of my lawn equipment. I wonder though, which one would have a longer shelf life: Ethanol-free gas, or regular gas with Seafoam added?
Google your local airport and purchase Phillips 66 ethanol free gasoline. I use it in all lawn equipment, snowblowers, and outboards. I've let it sit 5 years and had no problems.
@@202vaughn As I understand it, ethanol free gas will not attract moisture. Therefore it will remain stable and keep moisture out. Not so sure sea foam can do both if your buying gas at the pump and putting in the foam. It still has ethanol in it.
I’m glad I caught you on the video that I just bought a brand new generator up in Albany New York and I never use any stabilizer for years and all of a sudden I couldn’t start my Honda 20 hp at all now I got to have the carburetor clean and take it apart which I already started but I bought a brand new generator and I’m gonna do that I’m gonna buy that seafoam you say it’s good you look like a smart guy I live in Albany New York
I do the exact same thing with 9 VP race cans. Although i do rob from them sometimes when gas shoots up 60-70cents a gallon and i put some in my truck and refill when gas goes back down. Been doing it for years.
Silver Cymbal i have had a couple of the hose fittings that screw into the cap break in extreme cold. Be careful when trying to bend the hose. The plastic must be pretty weak. Im talking about 0 to -10. I end up ordering spare hoses because i contacted VP and they aren’t a separate part to order.
I use Sta-Bil and had no trouble. I know some that have had trouble with it and some that had trouble with Seafoam but others love it. What I tell people is to use something to stabilize the fuel and don't get cheap with it. I I have seen some that if it said 1 oz for a year they put half that in because they think they will only store it for 3 months. I live in Florida! Hurricane season is June 1st until Nov 30th! But there has been storms in May and Dec, one in Jan. Mother Nature can do what she wants! You are other ready for it or suffer! I run a 5,000 watt and if I run it all day and night it will use about 10 gallon a day but can run it an hour from time to time but is so very hot most of the time will run it all night for window AC.
If you a small engine that will start but runs rough, add some seafoam, start and let it idle for 5 or 10min then shut it off and let it sit overnight. If the carb is gummed up it will dissolve it. It's worked for me twice on a race weekend, so I swear by it.
This is why I bought a duel fuel gen. I used it 19 hrs on the same bottle (50 lb) about a week ago and it kept keeping on. Never has gas or never will.
if you have natural gas or use propane to keep the heat in the home you could convert youre generator to run on that , the propane fuel keeps a lot longer and is more available in case of an emergency if you have a system that switches the generator on as soon as the power cuts out you can run the generator a lot longer as it isnt depending on the amount of gas in the small tank , its probably cheaper than the gas and the stabilizer too
The higher octane fuels have additives that keep higher compression engines from pre detonating. It does not have more power stored in it. I have burned gas that was years old and never had a problem. Up here on the mountain the power goes out several times a year and we run a 6500W gen connected to the house 24/7 till it comes back on. Last time it was off for 5 days and I burned 50+ gallons. I just fill up a 55gal drum. If a forest fire came through, if that 55gal drum encountered enough heat to ignite, it igniting would be the least of my worries.
I swear by ethanol free gas for my outdoor equipment and I use Stabil and will soon switch to Stabil Marine. If you put the stabilizer in before the gas, it self mixes very well as the can is filled with gas. I have not had any issue with Stabil staining anything and it works for me...but then again, I'm using ethanol free gas...ethanol is the real gas killer due to water that it somehow seems to generate. 😊
I will fill most of my cans with standard gas, treated with seafoam and fill one with ethanol free treated with seafoam. If I use the generator during the Hurricane season I’ll use the regular gas then when I am done, I’ll drain the regular gas and run the ethanol free for a little bit and drain the carb. It’s worked fine for me so far.
Our generator recommended ethanol free 1. Do you still need additive? 2. Should you use a different additive for ethanol free versus regular gas? Thanks Tt in Florida
I used to run contaminated fuel in my old truck and free tires on it. The free tires were just worn out old tires. I put fuel in it at times that was 30 and 40 years old. I only used the Dollar Tree gas treatment to treat it. I would treat the old fuel in a separate container wait one day and pour it in the old truck. The two things that I noticed the fuel treatment at the Dollar Tree would do. Keep fuel from freezing and raise the octane level up so it would burn old fuel. Old fuel people would give me I would do a simple teaspoon of gas in a teaspoon go away from everything and light it with a long stem lighter. If they feel burned it went in the tank with no fuel treatment. I've also started up many of gasoline vehicles that have been sitting 15 years or more. I would just put the Dollar Tree fuel treatment in the gas tank come back the next day and start it up. And most of the time it would always start up as long as you had fire.
Interesting, I will have to look into Seafoam vs Sta-Bil. What problem did you have? Totally agree about storing gas in a shed. We keep five 5 gallon cans and propane for the grill in our shed. Rather lose the shed then the entire house. I've numbered the cans and try to buy gas at different times. One of the cans is used for lawnmower in summer so we have somewhere between 20-25 gallons of gas available. I've numbered the cans so I can cycle through the oldest gas. We have been lucky, in previous outages here in NH we often still had power in the center of town so were able to get more gas - no trees to take out the power lines.
Hi, I used Stabil for a few years and it ruined and stained the inside of all my fuel tanks with their red color. So for things where you see the fuel level this is a problem plus they look terrible. Seafoam never does that plus Stabil let me down several times and seemed like the fuel wasn't even stabilized I really like the seafoam a lot. Hopefully you will have a great experience too but for me I won't change unless something happens at this point.
I do about same here in Florida for the Hurricane. We have laws about how much we can store in plastic gas cans. Different places have different laws. If there is a fire the plastic will burn! Once the plastic burns the gas in them burns. I got a steal oil 55 gallon drum. I got my free, it had transmission fluid. I remember when people put transmission fluid in there cars gas tank to clean up the fuel system. The small amount of fluid still in the drum will make little to no difference when you put 35 to 45 gallons of gasoline in. I put my up on blocks to get it off the ground or wood floors and let air move under it. That also makes it easier to get the gas out when the drum is higher than the tank or gas can you are putting it in. I don't need to put a small amount of things in small gas cans, I can just put it in the drum and put the gas in and it will mix when you put the gas from the gas cans in it drops down 1 to 3 feet and will mix. I also can put in something to take care of any water in the gas. When you live where the humidity is very high the gas can get water from the air. For the ethanol haters, this happened back in the 50's, 60's, 70's, 80's, before Obama made them put ethanol in the gas. Condensation was a law of science before Obama was born! There are many different ways of getting the gas out small hand pumping don't cost much and if you want there are filters that can be put on to make sure there isn't anything in the gas.
As long as the storage container is sealed - non vented - you don't have to worry about water/moisture getting with the ethanol, so I used about 1/3 the recommended dosage. Zero issues in 10 years. I use the gas for my portable generator, weed whacker, lawn mowers. etc.
@@james44mag31 Wrong. If it had water in it your engine would miss at the least. They pad the storage tanks with nitrogen as prevention against moisture intrusion and fire/explosions.
@@STho205 It's treated to make it unsafe for human consumption. That is the law per BATF. And they do check. When it leaves the production facility it has less than 0.05% water in it. No gasoline or gasahol additives contain water. Water and gasoline will not mix. Where does this crap come from.
Ethanol gas starts breaking down within weeks I have stored non-ethanol gas 2 to 3 years without gas treatment or stabilizer and never had any problems with it! The problem is water in ethanol gas!
Put them in a air tight jerry can. No need for stable. Just shake the can well when you go to use it. Throw out the plastic cans. They are garbage. In florida, you gotta use gas before the season is over. With the jerry cans. I just used 1 year old gas with no issues.
I've kept ethanol free gas with StaBil treatment in a sealed container for up to two years (accidentally) with no issues. Red StaBil is cheaper, but some recommend the marine grade StaBil, which costs more. Seafoam is a good product I'm sure, but red StaBil is much cheaper.
Red stabil last just as long and maybe longer, but sea foam is a great idea because a generator under heavy use will keep cleaner... I would use either and sea foam used every second year would be enough.... the pure gas is the ticket if you can buy that, that alone will last a year.
You can use automatic transmission fluid for the same thing. One ounce every five gallons. On another note, every 100,000 miles on my car I put 1 gallon lacquer thinner in 9 gallons of gas and go on a 200 mile highway trip. Will never have injector or catalytic converter problems.
I'm I put the seafoam in first then fill it up with gas containers this way it mixes up the seafoam with the gas it's a really good stabilizer for fuel I've done mechanic for many years I think it is a good product
You have to use Stabil Marine Formula (Blue Colored) for it to work properly with ethanol fuel. Also, as gas goes bad the octane numbers fall off so it's best to buy the highest octane.
You have gotten lucky is all. Check the msds sheet concerning seafoam. Ethanol (corn grain alcohol) blended fuel attracts water. And other alcohols. Seafoam contains naphtha (a form of alcohol). Gasoline floats to the top of the container, ethanol, water and seafoam sink to the bottom.
I use Seafoam over the winter and it's never given me a plugged up carb or injector.... many times things sit for 6 months or more and it's still good. The only thing is, the vehicle might slightly smoke whitish smoke until you get fresh gas back in it.
Figure out how to test fuel pressure on your vehicle’s, then get yourself the appropriate fuel pressure tester with a bleeder valve and now your vehicles have become fuel storage as well. Ive got a boat with a 50 gallon tank, a jeep with a 18 gallons, wife toy car with 24 gallons, wifes tahoe with 28 gallons, my super duty with 34 gallons... all become fuel storage when weather is coming. I use Fuel Medic’s marine & and have never had an issue. I also dislike stabil simply because it doesn’t work. Sadly wont be making it to camp in Maine this year. Good luck.
Important to keep in mind when storing fuel in the U.S. that refineries switch between making winter blend and summer blend gas and knowing which one is what and marking containers will help. I believe Sept 15th is when the switch starts to happen for winter blends
Hi Shawn! Could you please shed some more light on how the two different blends (summer vs. Winter) of gas would be used differently? I'm not clear on the importance of labeling them. Thanks!
@@doradean3097 on roughly April 15th of every year refineries switch to summer blend gasoline which really has to do with the evaporation rates of each blend so winter blend which starts around Sept 15th is mixed to evaporate easier at a lower temp and is reverse in the summer. Can you run an engine on winter blend in the summer; yes but it's not ideal. I try to get rid of my summer blended fuels before it gets cold and vice versa in the spring
I never worry about ethanol. I use premium non ethanol gas for all two and four cycle stuff. The only ethanol gas I use is in my car. I store about the same amount of gas that you have for my generator. I use Sta-Bil storage. I like Briggs AFT when I can find it but it is not carried by Walmart, any more. I rotate gas every few years the same way you do but I do not have to worry because my gas is PNE. I only make two cycle gas in one gallon batches because a gallon will usually last me a month. I do add one ounce per gallon of MMO to my four cycle gas but not my two cycle gas and it is stored in my shed behind my shop in sealed five gallon containers and the shed is locked. I also use Startron to stabilize gas but it is more costly than Sta-Bil.
There has been testing that proves that gas with ethanol goes bad MUCH faster than ethanol free gas, and the gas treatments are much less effective on gas with ethanol. If you can get it, you are far better off with ethanol free gas treated with a good stabilizer, I use Seafoam personally. I had a piece of yard equipment with the same type of engine as most lawn mowers, I had surgery and it had been 2 years since it had been started, last week I pulled it out, it started on the second pull.
I have 2 places in New England, north and south. On and of the grid. Each house has a generator. I keep 5 steel Blitz cans full of 93 octane fuel at my primary residence and north I have seven. I use no fuel stabilizer. I never have had a problem with the gas or generators. Good maintenance practices for the generators is important.
Here's my thoughts. Your post says "super long time," but you never store your gas more than 1 year. I've let my '76 vette sit for 2 years without starting on 1/3 tank. Drove it around to empty and refilled. No issues. No gum up. I had 5 gallons of gas in a Jerry can sit and on the 3rd year it was weak for starting my firepit and hss much less fumes. In conclusion, i dont think you can endorse seafoam as a great product.
Yes I always buy non-ethanol fuel for my generator and mowing equipment and make sure I put seafoam in the gas gas cans first then I put in the gas I have used seafoam for many years
I’m so glad I’ve "bumped" Into this video. I also have a small Honda generator/inverter that I do the exact same thing with. I have never tried Sea Foam.. May look into it deeper, thank you!!
I've had excellent luck with good old Sta-bil. I have an old car that has sat for as long as three years without starting.Fresh battery,turn over for a bit to pump the gas up to the carb,and it fired up,no problem!I completely trust Sta-bil now.
My advice would be to burn up your old gas in your lawn maintenance equipment during the summer further avoiding possible damage to inexpensive vehicle engine that’s most likely to be more temperamental
As an experiment next time you fill up do not add anything to one of the containers as a control and see if it makes any difference. I'm in Australia and have kept non ethanol fuel for around 6 months without any problems without any additives. It would be interesting to see someone do some longer term experiments.
@@SilverCymbal Sure I understand. I'm in 37 acres in Victoria, Australia so I'd just use it to burn stumps or old trees I've cut down. I'm sure there will be farms around your area who would take it. Mix some diesel in with it if your concerned about using it to light fires. The diesel stops it vaporizing and burning too fast. Maybe some smaller amounts if cost is an issue. I asked the guy on the project farm channel to run some experiments. Plenty of people have a SHTF supply they keep long term. I enjoyed your vid. New England is a beautiful place. I lived in NC as a kid, we went up through NE to Canada one vacation.
I spoke to a petroleum engineer once and I asked about Stabil. She said it is a great marketing ploy and said additives like Stabil do nothing to preserve gas, and only make bad gas easier to burn. Sea Foam helps do that.
Wow I haven't seen that in Mass but if you can get there it's a good thing. Even with the standard fuels with Ethanol I Have had no problems keeping fuel with Seamfoam up to 2 years stored in an unheated shed. 1 year is when like to swap it out though ideally.
I totally agree and have had flawless luck using stabilizer every year for a long time. Cheaper and easier in the long run. Thank you kindly for watching and please subscribe for more videos.
I live in Washington and have a 150 gallon propane tank so I use a duel fuel generator, is there a reason you don't use a propane powered one where you are at since Propaine really never goes bad
I absolutely love the sound snow makes when it crunches under ur feet like that 😁 gives me z chill everytime. I cannot wait for fall & winter to wrap its icy crisp grip around maryland.
All to watch television during a power outage in the winter.Just get some Batteries for a good portable shortwave radio and a couple Kerosene heaters.Kerosene doesn't go bad as long as it's stored in a good container that keeps the moisture out.No worry about carbon monoxide either.
It's a bit of a gamble some say they have had it for 5 years with no issues but you never know. If the right steps and humidity hit you can be left with garbage. Its pretty cheap insurance to know your gas will stay usable.
Does your truck run on gas or diesel? If it's gas, you could keep fuel in the gas cans for a month and then pour it into your vehicle. Then go to the gas station and put new fuel in your gas cans. That way the fuel in your vehicle and in your generator is no more than 30 days old. If you have left over fuel in your generator, you could use your seafoam or siphon it out. I use a vacuum pump.
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Pro tip, add the correct amount of Sea Foam to the empty fuel cans prior to filling them up at the gas station and let the pump do a much better job of mixing for you.
You’re a pro?
Gas ⛽️ nozzle is the hero
Good tip!
It works on coffee cream in your coffee too. Put the cream in first and then coffee and you dont have to mix it
When my power goes out and the kids freak out about no wifi, I mix some scotch with ice cubes and kick back and enjoy
Okay that's funny
I drank a bottle of Woodford Reserve - Burbon during the 3 days of Hurricane Mathew in Florida. Makes family time more fun! Especially since we lost power for 3 days!
Can't remember :)
LOL NICE
I actually laughed out loud.
I'm searching videos for random purposes and happened to need to know about gasoline storage.... and YOU pop up in my search window again! You've gotta be some sort of genius! Thanks for the info!
Thanks for the video SC, many of us are "brothers-in-arms" doing the gas rotation pilgrimage. For anybody reading this, several years ago I left 1 of my 5 gallon gas cans deliberately untreated for 6 months. Ran a gallon of it in the generator, the engine had a small stutter every 30 seconds, or so. Added an ounce of stabilizer, stutter immediately disappeared.
Very interesting. Sometimes even I wonder if I didn't stabilize if it would have an effect. Sounds like it definitely would. Thank you for watching.
I think 4-cycle engines are more tolerant but my chainsaw does not like having old gas in it. I try to make sure I run it dry if I'm not going to use it for a while, otherwise the carb gums up.
Tom Schmidt I do it too
Thank you for this comment because I bought gas 6-8 months ago and never knew about stabilizer. I’m a female trying to get ready for anything. Do you think it will be fine if I add the stabilizer now to store for a period of time?
@@eaglewingsministries8571 you can add seafoam at any time, but if it was sitting 6 to 8 months untreated, try to use it up and then store fresh gas mixed with seafoam
Love your channel SC! I used to store 30 gallons of gas and had a storm knock out power for 4 days. It lasted till the grid was fixed as I only ran it for 90 minutes in the morning to get the tankless furnace and heat, then from 4pm till about 10pm to keep the fridge and freezer frozen. I have since switched to a hybrid propane generator and have 6 tanks in the shed that will last many years with zero intervention.
Thank you very much I appreciate that. Being prepared pays off huge when a big issue hit. It's great to have the fuel you need on hand. Crises like hat will always happen at some point.
Where did you find your generator?
I used PRI-G for gasoline. I used PRI-D for diesel fuel. If you refresh your fuel once a year with a PRI-product it can last for up to 10 years of storage. Amazing stuff.
Made in China......jus' say'n.
I converted my old 7500 watt generator to run on propane, and keep (12) 30 pound tanks stored in a safe place for use during emergencies. My generator runs 22 hours non-stop on a 30 pound tank. Before the conversion, I did a similar gas rotation using (10) 5-gallon cans, ethanol free premium and Seafoam. I never had an issue, but got tired of dealing with the gas.
Hello I was curious to know if it's hard to convert a generator from gas to propane? Did you do it or did you have someone do it for you?
@@alastexmex Hi Rudy, I did it myself. It was very easy to do on the generator that I did it on, because there was enough room to install the propane injector part between the carburator and intake without modifying the frame or covers. I watched several videos here on RUclips, and I think you should be able to find a video on your specific model. You mount a regulator onto the frame that the propane hose connects to. From the regulator a smaller hose to the propane injector part. To start, you open propane tank, press a button on the regulator for about 3 seconds, and the generator will fire right up. Generators do make less power running on propane vs gas. Almost 10% less, so a 10,000 watt generator becomes a 9,000 watt generator on propane. That's the only negative. In my case, the generator runs all our stuff fine on propane, and storing propane long term is so much more convenient than hoarding gas every time a hurricane is approaching.
@@digitaldan8223 Better for generator too!
One thing I forgot to mention, what I do differently is add the stabilizer to the empty cans, then fill them up at the gas station so the gas stream mixes really well with the stabilizer. Probably doesn't make any big different, just prevents you having to shake up the full gas jug.
I was about to make the same suggestion.
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I said that to myself when he said "Shake it up"
It actually DOES make a difference. Putting it in first gives a better mix.
Great video! Coincidentally, I store the exact same amount stabilized in similar containers in my shed and rotate every 6 months to a year through my vehicles so I'm not wasting any gas. My generator powers most of my house, everything but the AC (I wouldn't try it) and with my fuel storage I figure I can run it sparingly (a few hours a day) for about a month if need be. I'd like to double my fuel storage in the future, and pick up a smaller generator too to have a backup to my primary one.
That’s even more often than I do. I stretch it to one year only since it works out well since I’m winter I use the fuel for generator emergencies and in summer I burn it all up mowing grass. Thank you for watching and the comment.
This is exactly the way I treat storage gas.Your remarks, even down to your comments about stabil, are precisely the way I feel about fuel storage. Jeez, we're both brainiacs.
I have an old 4 cylinder Kohler water cooled generator. I've burned gas that was at least 5 years old in it and it never missed a beat. During Sandy we ran it for a week on gas that came out of junk cars.
@@billwilson3665 Yeah nothing like burning free gas in a free generator. Damn thing ran the whole house as long as I didn't try to dry clothes or use too many burners on the stove at once
ethanol seperates much faster than gas bottom will be water if any , next alcohal and last will be gas so if its a gravity feed fuel system i wouldnt do it these days and newer 2 strokes hate water in the cylinders
@@slongger We own a auto and truck repair shop. Out in the back we have about an acre of junk cars and trucks. I'd say we sell a load of 4 cars to the scrap yard the next block over about every month. I've yet to see anything that has been registered in the last 10 years have a tank of bad gas it it. We just filter it and burn it in our own trucks.
I got a few acres myself . All old chevy trucks from the 40s through the early 70s. I cant sell nothing though. I think of it as my retirement fund but even then it will be tough. I got around 24 I think.
@@cindytepper8878 I do know that old gas can be used, I was just trying to let people know its not the same as it used to be. The corrosion from Ethanol will eat into carbs and destroy them. When you finish running it , run it dry so no fuel remains in the float bowl.
My 2 cents:
I use SeaFoam occasionally to clean the carbs. When it works it’s almost instantaneous. I prefer StarTron year round in the boat, motorcycles, mowers , snow blowers, etc. StaBil goes from a ruby red to a coffee brown in its own bottle after 6 months or so. I can’t comment on the green StaBil - I haven’t tried it.
Great videos. Thanks!
I've been using Seafoam for my motorcycles and lawn tractor over the winter months and it just plain works. The engines start up in the spring like they did in the fall, no problem. I run some thru the engines mid-summer also to make sure the fuel system stays clean. It works for me. I've been using it for 6 years now and it's never failed me.
That's great to hear. The stuff has never let me down. I can't say that for some of the others. I will never switch. Stuff is amazing. Thank you for the comment and for watching. Best wishes.
Great tip. I've seen preppers cycle it out after 3 months. Every 90 days they just put in their cars and drive it out to make sure it stays fresh.
Thanks for producing this and the link to the racing gasoline containers. I did not know those existed, but they sound like a great idea. I viewed another RUclipsr recently with generator-related content. He recommended using ethanol-free 93+ octane racing fuel. The disadvantage to racing fuel, purchased in a five gallon steel containers, is the cost: $65/five gallons. (I can only imaging the shipping cost ordered from the supplier's website!).
Thank you again. I also very much appreciate your call out of Sea-Foam and the fact you are not sponsored by it. Yours a true unsolicited testimonial.
Glad you like it. I run a huge amount of gear all types and I never buy thanol free gas ever. I keep what you saw in my shed for a year + with no issues. Th racing fuel myth is just that and there is no need for it on any gear made in the last 20 years. You will save a lot of time and trouble and seafoam works perfectly for me. Glad you found this useful Happy holidays!
@@SilverCymbal Thanks for the reply! Happy holidays to you, as well.
I also add seafoam to my 2-cycle oil/gax mix. With that plus using synthetic 2 cycle oil, my weed trimmers and blower have zero issues year after year and are over 8 years old.
I had gas stored in the garage for like 2 years without stabilizers. When the time came to empty the container (right, overdue lol), it was a little bloated from expansion and I could tell there was some evaporation. There were no precipitates, no any change in liquidity. Figured I'd stick it in a truck going on empty. There were no stalls or knocks or anything that seemed out of the ordinary. Perhaps maybe a bit less efficiency, but no ill effects.
Seafoam is good, marine stabil is better. Stain? No. Your method is proven no matter what is used. Thanks for the great video. From NH.
I appreciate that a lot. Glad to have you nearby too! Thanks for watching.
That's what I learned too. The BLUE marine Stabil and not the RED normal one.
This video has been in my "watch later" forever. Finally gave it a watch tonight. Good idea on the Sea Foam. I live in hurricane country and have the same fuel issues. Will give this a try. I use metal Justrite fuel cans because I think they're safer than the plastic. As for generators, my advice is to buy "just enough" generator for what you need. A Honda EU2000 will run all day on a gallon of fuel, and run a refrigerator and a few other odds and ends.
thank you so much for recommending Seafoam product, my Honda 7000ISFI was not starting because I left the gasoline a couple of months in, I pour 2oz of Seafoam and the Generator just started working. You got a new subscriber from Puerto Rico. 👍
That's great to hear. It's a really great product.
I have been using seafoam in my vehicles, both gas and diesel. I didn't know you can use it as to stabilize fuel for storage. I have had mechanics at two different places tell me fuel starts braking after a month. Currently I use stabile. Mechanics also told me to only use 91 octane from chevron because cheaper gas has water in it. Well, I've gotten water from every gas station over the years. But lately I've only been using chevron because of convenience and the diesel price is the same in my area. I always need to have gas on hand for a pump to water my cattle and for the mower and generator and our old tractor.
Daniel, I am sure you meant "BREAKING DOWN" and not "BRAKING as in stopping.
Juan S yes. Breaking down.
I concur. I use Sea Foam in my gasoline t store it as well when I use it immediately. I am also fortunate to get Non-etanol gasoline. I still use the Sea Foam. Thanks for the video, Silver Cymbal. Have a fine week.
Houndsman One I do exactly the same as you. Non e gas and sea foam. Every year I put it in my car. If I need my generators, I need em RIGHT NOW. If I spend an extra few bucks too bad. We had an outage several years ago that covered a wide territory. No electricity to run the pumps within 35 or 40 miles. Not happening to me again.
You're absolutely correct Johnnybeanz1. We experienced a severe hurricane last year (Florence) and everything you mentioned actually happened. This year's hurricane Dorian prompted me to purchase 5 additional 5-gallon gas cans, 2 diesel cans, and two window AC units (first time I ever did that). We were fortunate that Dorian was mild but Humberto and whatever else is being closely monitored by me (Houndsman One) 😊. Thanks for the reinforced confirmation that I'm not an over-kill prepper (ha). Have a fine week, Johnnybeanz1. Thumbs up to ya! 👍
Whenever I have something that needs to be mixed with the gas I put it in the tank empty then pump the gas so it gets mixed real good.
Storing away from garage and home is wisdom. We had a garage fire on Christmas Eve. We lost everything in 4 car garage. Thankfully the shop was 220’ from our home.
So sorry to hear about your fire and yes I totally agree. Keeping any fuel is best left physically separated for as much safety as possible.
I use the same jugs and same system, only using one nozzle. You may have noticed on the non-nozzle caps, if you tip the jug over gas can seep out between the cap and center plug. Allowing air in.
I took the plugs out, wrapped them with teflon tap, and screwed them back into the cap. It solved the problem. I also noticed some of my jugs required the cap good and tight to seal. So I always tip them to ensure everything is sealed.
I keep three five gallons gas cans on hand. When a can needs refilling, I add Stabilfuel and fill the can with ethanol free gas. Each can is numbered, and each is labeled with the fill date. I keep using the cans in sequence, and any can going on a year old, gets put in my car and then refilled. I have two generators and a riding mower using the fuel.
I used to use Seafoam. After a few years of use all the small engines had carb problems. The fuel in the bowl would evaporate at a quicker rate and left a white powder behind, which would clog the small orifices and passages in the carb. PIA to clean every carb out! Went to non-oxy fuel and that's it, have not have one carb issue due to that stabilizer since!
solid well informed videos - same here. I enjoyed your Huge New Honda Gen vid too.( Goals !! ) . one day i will invest. until then I use a Honeywell 7500E - but I do the exact thing you do for fuel and containers- SeaFoam - for ALL my small engines too - it also can be put in the oil tanks too. 100% agree with your video ! Thanx for your time and effort in producing one. no nonsense or rambling! have a good winter !!
I don't use any additives or stabilizers. What I do is every month, I empty out one can of gas into my car's tank. I refill the can, then put it back at the end of the line of gas cans. So if you have 5 cans, your oldest gas will never be older than 5 months.
I think you're missing the point.
@@tigweldNY I THINK THAT WARREN's IDEA IS EXCELLENT! WHY DO U THINK HE IS MISSING THE POINT ?
@@paulferrante5192 Why are you always shouting, Dennis?
@@tigweldNY They don’t get it do they LoL
I love my VP race jugs for “immediate” use. But I have found that steel gas (jerry type) cans are FAR better for long term storage. Found a steel can in my fathers barn that was every bit of 5 years old. Smelled just like the day it was put in there. Just some information to consider.
Love the Quick fill no spill gas containers. I use regular gasoline from the 60’s (Leaded) in 55 gallon steel drums. It’s untreated it hasn’t gone stale. I’m thinking the new blends and unleaded are purposely made unstable.
Ethanol and others require stabilized treatment. Farm gas is the way to go if you want to keep it for a long time.
White gas is even better, I have used stuff from the 40’s it will light the Coleman lamps and stove without any problems.
I have been using sta-bil for 10 years myself and have no issues with starting a generator or snow blower with the treated gas.
Interesting, I got tired of it ruining my white gas containers and staining them all red. I had issues one year also and the gas was bad. It might be great stuff but seafoam for me has bee incredible and using it for tuneups too has really worked.
Stabil says right on the bottle to use it up once its opened.
tires2burn you are incorrect. If you buy a 32oz bottle of sta-bil you don’t have treat 80 gallons right away. It’s good for two years once cracked open.
appleiphone69 I used stabil in 10 gallons of gas and after 6 months it stalled my Jeep. Possible bad non-ethanol gas but I had a bad experience with
Spread the word and help boycott ethanol fuel. I hate the stuff. Soooooo many ignorant people out there dont know how sorry that stuff is.
It's a money making scam! Now some gas stations offer recreational fuel which is 100 percent pure gasoline. That's what used to be at the pumps now it is around 4 dollars a gallon!! What a crock!! It's called marketing, the whole system is engineered to F the consumer and nobody cares! People just except it!!
Great idea, but where do you buy non-ethanol fuel? Most gas stations I know only sell ethanol mix.
@@rkstr9965 pretty common around here. Local co-op should have some.
@@rkstr9965 check boat marina's, if you find it there it'll be a bit pricey though. The state slaps an environmental extra tax on it because the pumps are out on the water at the end of the boat docks.
Good luck.
@@stevehairston9940 thanks for the recommendation. Sounds like pure gasoline is only available at airports & marina's. Probably works for a couple gallons in a lawn mower but not feasible for a car or truck.
Great gasoline storage plan. Fortunately, I live in an area of the country with wide availability of 100% gasoline. I use it exclusively in my small engines and do the same rotation. It costs about .40 cents more per gallon, but well worth it to avoid ethanol.
You are very fortunate but I have to say despite using 1000s of gallons of fuel in small equipment with the way I described in my video using Seafoam I have never had one issue even with some fuel stabilized over 2 years so I am pretty happy with it. Thank you for watching and best wishes to you.
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Thanks for the Seafoam tip I had no idea. I usually start with gas additives first and then add gasoline for even distribution.
Sure thats a better way but I have added it many times after it mixes very easily.
@@SilverCymbal Yes I still add it afterwards occasionally without any problems.
Have used Star-Tron and ethanol free gas for years and I have had gas still perform effortlessly even up to three years.
The best fuel stabilizer is called Pri-G. It not only stabilizes, but you can add it to old gas and it will rejuvenate the old gas. They also make Pri-D for diesel.
Hi Jason, I just looked up Pri-G on amazon. They make gas treatments as well as gas stabilizer. Which one are you referring to that you had good results with long term storage as well as rejuvenate old gas? Thanks in advance!
Great info....still not sure of the best portable generator for my central Florida 2 bedroom home and shop ? I traveled through the country for 30 + years and sure do miss SONOCO 107 octane at a few of their stations...$1.07 comes to mind the last time I bought it :)...yes..these were the good old days...25 cents a gallon in the mid 60's POSTED AUTO SPEED LIMIT IN PENNSYLVANIA....Cars 85 mph ....Trucks 75 mph.....you could go around 5-10 over and it was cool with the cops.
I've never known any roads that were flat enough or straight enough to have that speed limit in PA.
Wow, I've been a fan of Seafoam for years but I never even noticed that it says it stabilizes fuel right on the can.. Might give it a try although I've been using Stabil for 10 years now and haven't had any negative effects, nor any of the staining you mentioned.
I run Seafoam in my Coleman fuel to keep the generators clean. Great stuff!!!
Its been so helpful since I started using it. Never had a fuel problem again
I like the rotation cycle from 3months(gas alone) to a year with the additive.
In my poorer days, I kept two thermos cans in the trunk that bailed me out, to get to a gas station.⛽
I store gas for 6 months and have always had good luck with Stabil. Manufacturers have been recommending that stuff for decades but I also use Seafoam which actually works like a tuneup in the can. I pour in a can to my gas tank and then fill it up.
I used to use Stabil, but I only had a motorcycle... now I've added a whole push mower and a trimmer cause not in an apt anymore. I would buy the bottle and not use half of it before it would expire. One day this guy starts praising Seafoam and telling me I should switch because it doesn't expire... so I switched, lol.
I purchase ethanol free gas
Jack Smith
I also use ethanol-free gas in all of my lawn equipment. I wonder though, which one would have a longer shelf life: Ethanol-free gas, or regular gas with Seafoam added?
Sweden here. Same thing with ethanol. What gas? Aspen?
Google your local airport and purchase Phillips 66 ethanol free gasoline. I use it in all lawn equipment, snowblowers, and outboards. I've let it sit 5 years and had no problems.
@@john7017 Of course. Something like Avgas 100LL.
@@202vaughn As I understand it, ethanol free gas will not attract moisture. Therefore it will remain stable and keep moisture out. Not so sure sea foam can do both if your buying gas at the pump and putting in the foam. It still has ethanol in it.
Follow exact same process for hurricane season here in the South. I burn the excess fuel in my vehicle after 1 year. Never had a fuel issue.
I’m glad I caught you on the video that I just bought a brand new generator up in Albany New York and I never use any stabilizer for years and all of a sudden I couldn’t start my Honda 20 hp at all now I got to have the carburetor clean and take it apart which I already started but I bought a brand new generator and I’m gonna do that I’m gonna buy that seafoam you say it’s good you look like a smart guy I live in Albany New York
I do the exact same thing with 9 VP race cans. Although i do rob from them sometimes when gas shoots up 60-70cents a gallon and i put some in my truck and refill when gas goes back down. Been doing it for years.
Very cool! It's pretty easy and just works. Those cans are so handy too. No silly vents and junk to break.
Silver Cymbal i have had a couple of the hose fittings that screw into the cap break in extreme cold. Be careful when trying to bend the hose. The plastic must be pretty weak. Im talking about 0 to -10. I end up ordering spare hoses because i contacted VP and they aren’t a separate part to order.
When storing close the vent also ?? Or Crack it slightly open ???
@@jimmysapien9961 I also leave them closed.
@@mikalpechota770 Yes, mine has been very close at times to having an issue. I wish there was a slightly more flexible plastic hose for the top.
I use Sta-Bil and had no trouble. I know some that have had trouble with it and some that had trouble with Seafoam but others love it. What I tell people is to use something to stabilize the fuel and don't get cheap with it. I I have seen some that if it said 1 oz for a year they put half that in because they think they will only store it for 3 months. I live in Florida! Hurricane season is June 1st until Nov 30th! But there has been storms in May and Dec, one in Jan. Mother Nature can do what she wants! You are other ready for it or suffer! I run a 5,000 watt and if I run it all day and night it will use about 10 gallon a day but can run it an hour from time to time but is so very hot most of the time will run it all night for window AC.
I cleaned my diesel injectors by mixing 6 cans into 2 gallons in my almost empty tank then drove on freeway for 30 miles. Worked great.
Thank you. I have never heard of that Sea Foam. I will have to check into it.
My absolute favorite stuff
If you a small engine that will start but runs rough, add some seafoam, start and let it idle for 5 or 10min then shut it off and let it sit overnight. If the carb is gummed up it will dissolve it.
It's worked for me twice on a race weekend, so I swear by it.
You got a good routine going and to add to it I would tag the cans with a date.
This is why I bought a duel fuel gen. I used it 19 hrs on the same bottle (50 lb) about a week ago and it kept keeping on. Never has gas or never will.
if you have natural gas or use propane to keep the heat in the home you could convert youre generator to run on that , the propane fuel keeps a lot longer and is more available in case of an emergency if you have a system that switches the generator on as soon as the power cuts out you can run the generator a lot longer as it isnt depending on the amount of gas in the small tank , its probably cheaper than the gas and the stabilizer too
Appreciate the info but would it not be logical to put the SeaFoam in first before filling with petrol....oops..I meant "gas"
He shook it, good enough!
@@doug3805 LOL
@@billwilson3665 probably*
Wayne Grunert No Different !!!
The higher octane fuels have additives that keep higher compression engines from pre detonating. It does not have more power stored in it.
I have burned gas that was years old and never had a problem. Up here on the mountain the power goes out several times a year and we run a 6500W gen connected to the house 24/7 till it comes back on. Last time it was off for 5 days and I burned 50+ gallons. I just fill up a 55gal drum. If a forest fire came through, if that 55gal drum encountered enough heat to ignite, it igniting would be the least of my worries.
I swear by ethanol free gas for my outdoor equipment and I use Stabil and will soon switch to Stabil Marine. If you put the stabilizer in before the gas, it self mixes very well as the can is filled with gas. I have not had any issue with Stabil staining anything and it works for me...but then again, I'm using ethanol free gas...ethanol is the real gas killer due to water that it somehow seems to generate. 😊
I will fill most of my cans with standard gas, treated with seafoam and fill one with ethanol free treated with seafoam. If I use the generator during the Hurricane season I’ll use the regular gas then when I am done, I’ll drain the regular gas and run the ethanol free for a little bit and drain the carb. It’s worked fine for me so far.
Our generator recommended ethanol free
1. Do you still need additive?
2. Should you use a different additive for ethanol free versus regular gas? Thanks
Tt in Florida
I used to run contaminated fuel in my old truck and free tires on it. The free tires were just worn out old tires. I put fuel in it at times that was 30 and 40 years old. I only used the Dollar Tree gas treatment to treat it. I would treat the old fuel in a separate container wait one day and pour it in the old truck. The two things that I noticed the fuel treatment at the Dollar Tree would do. Keep fuel from freezing and raise the octane level up so it would burn old fuel. Old fuel people would give me I would do a simple teaspoon of gas in a teaspoon go away from everything and light it with a long stem lighter. If they feel burned it went in the tank with no fuel treatment. I've also started up many of gasoline vehicles that have been sitting 15 years or more. I would just put the Dollar Tree fuel treatment in the gas tank come back the next day and start it up. And most of the time it would always start up as long as you had fire.
Most fuel treatment is ethanol, removes water and condensation.
Interesting, I will have to look into Seafoam vs Sta-Bil. What problem did you have? Totally agree about storing gas in a shed. We keep five 5 gallon cans and propane for the grill in our shed. Rather lose the shed then the entire house. I've numbered the cans and try to buy gas at different times. One of the cans is used for lawnmower in summer so we have somewhere between 20-25 gallons of gas available. I've numbered the cans so I can cycle through the oldest gas. We have been lucky, in previous outages here in NH we often still had power in the center of town so were able to get more gas - no trees to take out the power lines.
Hi, I used Stabil for a few years and it ruined and stained the inside of all my fuel tanks with their red color. So for things where you see the fuel level this is a problem plus they look terrible. Seafoam never does that plus Stabil let me down several times and seemed like the fuel wasn't even stabilized I really like the seafoam a lot. Hopefully you will have a great experience too but for me I won't change unless something happens at this point.
THIS article may help you decide to use Seafoam:
weingartz.com/expert-advice/2017/01/fuel-stabilizers-sta-bil-or-sea-foam/
I do about same here in Florida for the Hurricane. We have laws about how much we can store in plastic gas cans. Different places have different laws. If there is a fire the plastic will burn! Once the plastic burns the gas in them burns. I got a steal oil 55 gallon drum. I got my free, it had transmission fluid. I remember when people put transmission fluid in there cars gas tank to clean up the fuel system. The small amount of fluid still in the drum will make little to no difference when you put 35 to 45 gallons of gasoline in. I put my up on blocks to get it off the ground or wood floors and let air move under it. That also makes it easier to get the gas out when the drum is higher than the tank or gas can you are putting it in. I don't need to put a small amount of things in small gas cans, I can just put it in the drum and put the gas in and it will mix when you put the gas from the gas cans in it drops down 1 to 3 feet and will mix. I also can put in something to take care of any water in the gas. When you live where the humidity is very high the gas can get water from the air. For the ethanol haters, this happened back in the 50's, 60's, 70's, 80's, before Obama made them put ethanol in the gas. Condensation was a law of science before Obama was born! There are many different ways of getting the gas out small hand pumping don't cost much and if you want there are filters that can be put on to make sure there isn't anything in the gas.
As long as the storage container is sealed - non vented - you don't have to worry about water/moisture getting with the ethanol, so I used about 1/3 the recommended dosage. Zero issues in 10 years. I use the gas for my portable generator, weed whacker, lawn mowers. etc.
Ethanol gas has water in it when you buy it! Google how to separate water from ethanol gas and you'll see! That's why it breaks down so fast.
@@james44mag31 Wrong. If it had water in it your engine would miss at the least. They pad the storage tanks with nitrogen as prevention against moisture intrusion and fire/explosions.
@@STho205 It's treated to make it unsafe for human consumption. That is the law per BATF. And they do check. When it leaves the production facility it has less than 0.05% water in it. No gasoline or gasahol additives contain water. Water and gasoline will not mix. Where does this crap come from.
@@VirginianSpencer just do like I said and Google how to remove water from ethanol gas!
Ethanol gas starts breaking down within weeks I have stored non-ethanol gas 2 to 3 years without gas treatment or stabilizer and never had any problems with it! The problem is water in ethanol gas!
Nice video. Thank you. Maybe placing Sea form in the gas can 1st, then mix in the gas.
Put them in a air tight jerry can. No need for stable. Just shake the can well when you go to use it. Throw out the plastic cans. They are garbage. In florida, you gotta use gas before the season is over. With the jerry cans. I just used 1 year old gas with no issues.
I've kept ethanol free gas with StaBil treatment in a sealed container for up to two years (accidentally) with no issues. Red StaBil is cheaper, but some recommend the marine grade StaBil, which costs more. Seafoam is a good product I'm sure, but red StaBil is much cheaper.
Red stabil last just as long and maybe longer, but sea foam is a great idea because a generator under heavy use will keep cleaner... I would use either and sea foam used every second year would be enough.... the pure gas is the ticket if you can buy that, that alone will last a year.
You can use automatic transmission fluid for the same thing. One ounce every five gallons. On another note, every 100,000 miles on my car I put 1 gallon lacquer thinner in 9 gallons of gas and go on a 200 mile highway trip. Will never have injector or catalytic converter problems.
Tell that to Scotty Kilmer - Website. !!!!
Scotty is my favorite angry mechanic
@@SilverCymbal ...is he a stoner...cool if that's the case...he seems a bit high at times :)
@@chipsramek3868 Not sure if it's that, maybe he is blacking out for all the money he is making now.
@@1seriousgearheadify Thank you
I'm I put the seafoam in first then fill it up with gas containers this way it mixes up the seafoam with the gas it's a really good stabilizer for fuel I've done mechanic for many years I think it is a good product
Definitely good stuff
You have to use Stabil Marine Formula (Blue Colored) for it to work properly with ethanol fuel. Also, as gas goes bad the octane numbers fall off so it's best to buy the highest octane.
Or red color
You have gotten lucky is all. Check the msds sheet concerning seafoam. Ethanol (corn grain alcohol) blended fuel attracts water. And other alcohols. Seafoam contains naphtha (a form of alcohol). Gasoline floats to the top of the container, ethanol, water and seafoam sink to the bottom.
I use both seafoam and sta-bil marine 360. Been doing that for over 10 years.
I use Seafoam over the winter and it's never given me a plugged up carb or injector.... many times things sit for 6 months or more and it's still good. The only thing is, the vehicle might slightly smoke whitish smoke until you get fresh gas back in it.
Figure out how to test fuel pressure on your vehicle’s, then get yourself the appropriate fuel pressure tester with a bleeder valve and now your vehicles have become fuel storage as well. Ive got a boat with a 50 gallon tank, a jeep with a 18 gallons, wife toy car with 24 gallons, wifes tahoe with 28 gallons, my super duty with 34 gallons... all become fuel storage when weather is coming. I use Fuel Medic’s marine & and have never had an issue. I also dislike stabil simply because it doesn’t work. Sadly wont be making it to camp in Maine this year. Good luck.
Important to keep in mind when storing fuel in the U.S. that refineries switch between making winter blend and summer blend gas and knowing which one is what and marking containers will help. I believe Sept 15th is when the switch starts to happen for winter blends
Hi Shawn! Could you please shed some more light on how the two different blends (summer vs. Winter) of gas would be used differently? I'm not clear on the importance of labeling them. Thanks!
@@doradean3097 on roughly April 15th of every year refineries switch to summer blend gasoline which really has to do with the evaporation rates of each blend so winter blend which starts around Sept 15th is mixed to evaporate easier at a lower temp and is reverse in the summer. Can you run an engine on winter blend in the summer; yes but it's not ideal. I try to get rid of my summer blended fuels before it gets cold and vice versa in the spring
I never worry about ethanol. I use premium non ethanol gas for all two and four cycle stuff. The only ethanol gas I use is in my car. I store about the same amount of gas that you have for my generator. I use Sta-Bil storage. I like Briggs AFT when I can find it but it is not carried by Walmart, any more. I rotate gas every few years the same way you do but I do not have to worry because my gas is PNE. I only make two cycle gas in one gallon batches because a gallon will usually last me a month. I do add one ounce per gallon of MMO to my four cycle gas but not my two cycle gas and it is stored in my shed behind my shop in sealed five gallon containers and the shed is locked. I also use Startron to stabilize gas but it is more costly than Sta-Bil.
10% ethanol stored in shed in No-Spill cans for 3.5 years, worked fine in lawn mower and motorcycle
There has been testing that proves that gas with ethanol goes bad MUCH faster than ethanol free gas, and the gas treatments are much less effective on gas with ethanol. If you can get it, you are far better off with ethanol free gas treated with a good stabilizer, I use Seafoam personally. I had a piece of yard equipment with the same type of engine as most lawn mowers, I had surgery and it had been 2 years since it had been started, last week I pulled it out, it started on the second pull.
I have 2 places in New England, north and south. On and of the grid. Each house has a generator. I keep 5 steel Blitz cans full of 93 octane fuel at my primary residence and north I have seven. I use no fuel stabilizer. I never have had a problem with the gas or generators. Good maintenance practices for the generators is important.
Here's my thoughts.
Your post says "super long time," but you never store your gas more than 1 year.
I've let my '76 vette sit for 2 years without starting on 1/3 tank. Drove it around to empty and refilled. No issues. No gum up.
I had 5 gallons of gas in a Jerry can sit and on the 3rd year it was weak for starting my firepit and hss much less fumes.
In conclusion, i dont think you can endorse seafoam as a great product.
Yes I always buy non-ethanol fuel for my generator and mowing equipment and make sure I put seafoam in the gas gas cans first then I put in the gas I have used seafoam for many years
Good video. You can store gas for quite a while, but always good to cycle it out every year.
I’m so glad I’ve "bumped" Into this video.
I also have a small Honda generator/inverter that I do the exact same thing with.
I have never tried Sea Foam.. May look into it deeper, thank you!!
I've had excellent luck with good old Sta-bil. I have an old car that has sat for as long as three years without starting.Fresh battery,turn over for a bit to pump the gas up to the carb,and it fired up,no problem!I completely trust Sta-bil now.
You should check out star Tron fuel stabilizer. It's by far the best I have used
My advice would be to burn up your old gas in your lawn maintenance equipment during the summer further avoiding possible damage to inexpensive vehicle engine that’s most likely to be more temperamental
As an experiment next time you fill up do not add anything to one of the containers as a control and see if it makes any difference. I'm in Australia and have kept non ethanol fuel for around 6 months without any problems without any additives. It would be interesting to see someone do some longer term experiments.
That is a good idea, but what do I do if it's bad? Not easy at all here to get rid of old gas. VERY expensive if you can even find a place.
@@SilverCymbal Sure I understand. I'm in 37 acres in Victoria, Australia so I'd just use it to burn stumps or old trees I've cut down. I'm sure there will be farms around your area who would take it. Mix some diesel in with it if your concerned about using it to light fires. The diesel stops it vaporizing and burning too fast. Maybe some smaller amounts if cost is an issue. I asked the guy on the project farm channel to run some experiments. Plenty of people have a SHTF supply they keep long term. I enjoyed your vid. New England is a beautiful place. I lived in NC as a kid, we went up through NE to Canada one vacation.
Put the stabilizer in before the gas it will mix better.
I spoke to a petroleum engineer once and I asked about Stabil. She said it is a great marketing ploy and said additives like Stabil do nothing to preserve gas, and only make bad gas easier to burn. Sea Foam helps do that.
I do the same thing...except I add the stabilizer before heading out to the gas station.
I as well have been using Seafoam for years,love the stuff!great video!
Thank you very much. Seafoam is the best. I have restored many engines with it as well. Amazing!
THIS article convinced me to use Seafoam vs Sta-Bil:
weingartz.com/expert-advice/2017/01/fuel-stabilizers-sta-bil-or-sea-foam/
I've seen one of the walmart sell ethanol free gas . That should last longer stored. It's a bit more pricey but worth it for longer storage
Wow I haven't seen that in Mass but if you can get there it's a good thing. Even with the standard fuels with Ethanol I Have had no problems keeping fuel with Seamfoam up to 2 years stored in an unheated shed. 1 year is when like to swap it out though ideally.
I totally agree and have had flawless luck using stabilizer every year for a long time. Cheaper and easier in the long run. Thank you kindly for watching and please subscribe for more videos.
Question... Do you close the ventilator cap on your gas cans to store gas or do you keep the ventilator caps open?
I’d like to know this also!
I live in Washington and have a 150 gallon propane tank so I use a duel fuel generator, is there a reason you don't use a propane powered one where you are at since Propaine really never goes bad
I absolutely love the sound snow makes when it crunches under ur feet like that 😁 gives me z chill everytime. I cannot wait for fall & winter to wrap its icy crisp grip around maryland.
It's funny hearing it in summer times, bring all the memories back
Right. Do not spill gas on bare hands at sub freezing Temps. The pain is excruciating. Wear long rubber gloves.
All to watch television during a power outage in the winter.Just get some Batteries for a good portable shortwave radio and a couple Kerosene heaters.Kerosene doesn't go bad as long as it's stored in a good container that keeps the moisture out.No worry about carbon monoxide either.
I have some gas that has been stored like 3 years without doing a thing to it. Still works. It expanded my gas tank though :-P
It's a bit of a gamble some say they have had it for 5 years with no issues but you never know. If the right steps and humidity hit you can be left with garbage. Its pretty cheap insurance to know your gas will stay usable.
Does your truck run on gas or diesel? If it's gas, you could keep fuel in the gas cans for a month and then pour it into your vehicle. Then go to the gas station and put new fuel in your gas cans. That way the fuel in your vehicle and in your generator is no more than 30 days old. If you have left over fuel in your generator, you could use your seafoam or siphon it out. I use a vacuum pump.
Good advice. I think I’m going to buy a couple VP containers. Thank you
I love those containers. They really work well and are close to 8 years old now so they have held up well.
Where are those awesome gas containers located?
I would love to purchase a few myself.
Thanks for sharing this info. with us.👍
You can get them right here. They are really great. Still loving them 6 years later, they are the best. Special price with free shipping too here: amzn.to/2Fg9PHT
If you have a Rural King in your area, they have similar cans.
I've used mystery magic oil for this purpose in tropical climates will make sea foam a part of my toolset.
I have been adding marvel mystery oil to my gas cans and into my vehicle fuel tanks for years.
@@picklerix6162 for me not easy to find anymore
@@picklerix6162 for me not easy to find anymore
@@picklerix6162 for me not easy to find anymore
@@picklerix6162 for me not easy to find anymore
Over the last 5 years I’ve picked up 15, 5 and 6 gallon plastic cans at garage sales and free ones left at the curb.