The Fire Cheif in episode is actually based on the mannerisms of the real life Fire Cheif of Bolton where the series is filmed, he didn't take the joke very well 😂
My mum was a teacher in Bolton at the time this episode came out. She said that none of the teachers were able to keep a straight face when he came to give fire safety talks after it aired because they'd got his mannerisms spot on.
@@finncullen My dad was police sergeant at Astley Bridge during that time so had actually met Mr Laird, I remember him rolling in laughter when this episode aired and he explained after that it was definitely based on him despite that note after the episode. Correct me if I'm wrong as it was a long time ago but didn't he also try to take action against Peter and the production team as his reputation took one hell of a knock 😂
That delivery of “nonce” is so good, it will never fail to make me laugh and poor John, you know he’s still getting shit from the missus today! Keep up the great work King B!
I feel like when he starts understanding the accents a bit better too a lot more stuff will click but its fair enough if he’s struggling to catch all the words😂
As "Max" is ordering the diver's watch you can hear him in the background saying, "I can swim" over the phone, brilliant. There's an outtake that shows it more obviously.
Dog rough can refer to many things. If you have a hangover you can feel dog rough. A woman who isn't that attractive can be described as dog rough, or as in The Phoenix Club, dog rough means outdated, undesirable, trouble and a reference to Keith Lard fiddling dogs
Just to let you know as a massive inbetweener fan that you are ! The Den Perry character is charlottes from the inbetweeners uncle in real life, her mum is also in one of the future episodes. Ted robbins who plays the character is also first cousins with Paul McCartney.
The references to Kieth Lard was that he was supposed to have been caught having a sexual experience with a dog. Hence all of the dog jokes. At the end of the first half the phrase "dog rough" means feeling tired and over worked, but the joke falls on Keith ....as in dog reference........
@@vilebrequin6923I was gonna comment this cuz it’s something that continues & is highlighted many other times, so it’s good to let him know that!!? 👍 I think he paints the vase black in series 2!? 🤣
The ongoing joke about him drinking from a vase is that he is helping himself to drinks from the optics behind the bar, which he can only reach with a vase since he has been in the wheelchair. This was shown in Episode 1 and has continued since
“It’ll only be for a couple of days…” - “That’s what they told Terry Waite” ……. Poor guy was help captive for 4 years. Savage joke but could have easily slipped by without a mention.
Highly recomend after Phoenix Nights watching the spin off series to it "Max and Paddy's Road to Nowhere". Very funny series of the two doormen in Phoenix Nights buy a motorhome and travel around the UK getting into all sorts of trouble.
Keith Lard first appeared in ‘Eyes Down’, one of a series of films commissioned by Channel 4 and broadcast in 1999, Kay wrote six different ones, from an angry ice cream man to ‘In The Club’ which was essentially a prototype for Phoenix Nights. The one most suitable for a series was chosen and though some of the other films were really good, one based in a struggling Northern Club had the most scope Despite their denials, Lard had a similar mustache as well as job in the same town. Kay has always based his characters on people and places he knew, admitting that the disgruntled employee of the bingo hall portrayed in ‘Eyes Down’ was a lot like him in a similar job. But with Keith Lard, hilarious as it is, he seemed to overstep the mark. If you get the chance to see ‘That Peter Kay Thing’, the series of films, highly recommended but unlikely you can access them. I brought my DVD of it 20 years ago and there was no fall out from Keith Lard when broadcast as few saw them, as opposed to Phoenix Night 0:26 s three years later.
In the club, the phoenix nights pilot and Eyes Down Kieth Lard's introduction. That Peter Kat thing was brilliant. As well as the Ice-cream man cometh there also was at the top, about a self-obsessed pop star.
Yeah the mini episode was based in a bingo hall, and again peter kay played multiple parts in all these shows - there was also one based in a motorway service station
@ KingBoomer 13:15 he said "I'd watch yourself down there if I was you, Keith. It's dog rough" implying it's a bad situation for a fire inspection. And he used that term because the town heard a rumor that Keith shagged a dog. So 'dog rough' is a double entedre to both make fun of Club Phoenix as a competing business, and Keith for what he allegedly did.
Keith Laird used occasionally train my football team when I was a kid. He was Scottish and was either a semi or professional footballer from Dundee or somewhere like that in his younger days. Decent bloke to be honest.
Oh yes, when he takes them all up into the Highlands after a mental breakdown. Then knocks Bobby of his bike. Classic comedy. Currently following it on a great reaction channel, 'eddy cheeee'. He'll be posting his next Still Game reaction probably in about a half hour. Please give him a subscribe and follow, he's a young creator who's smile and laugh are infectious. And he doesn't go into woke or PC BS either. Tell him I sent you. The last episode he did was when Winston's accumulator came up and Stevie fkd off. Please give the young lad a try. I'm sure you'll thank me. Ohhh and back to Robbie Coltrane. I'm with you and 'Davie' on the 'Dial A Bus' episode. Eddy Cheeee (not misspelled), hasn't done that episode yet. And Robbie Coltrane will also be 'Cracker' to me. I'm not into Harry Potter or James bond.... I'm 55 years old lol.
Another great reaction KB . All the dog joked were because Keith Lard had been accused of ' interfering 'with dogs. The jokes start with Den Perry introducing Keith as " and now here to take the LEAD " , " UNLEASH our next guest "OUR NEXT GUEST and " His BARK is worse than his bite " . Den is played by Ted Robins who is the uncle of Emily Atack , who played Charlotte in The Inbetweeners .
The acronym N.O.N.C.E stands for 'not on normal courtyard exercise', according to a prison documentary, and apparently was first coined at H M P Wakefield, a top security jail in Yorkshire.
I think you mat have missed the introduction to Kieth Lard. "He was caught 'interfering' with dogs. He went to court and everything. It was in the papers" "He got away with it?! "You try get an Alsatian to testify!" Then there are a load of dog related puns, finishing with 'dog rough'. 😂 Watch that bit again!!
Robbie was in Cracker - a great series that was. I actually thought the clip in the show was Robbie in Cracker but it was on a foreign satellite chanel so was dubbed.
18:51 the big glass is actually a vase and he uses it in episode 1 to get himself a drink. Because the work man and put the spirits to high for him he used a vase to get it.
3:58 For those of you who are too young to remember or not familiar with British/ Middle Eastern politics Terry Waite was a British hostage negotiator working for the Church of England, he was sent to Lebanon to negotiate the release of 4 hostages but was kidnapped himself and held from 1987 to 1991.
I think you managed to miss every dog joke during the Keith Lard bit! I reckon you can watch this back again and find a gag in every sentence. Funny as feck
They had to pay £10,000 compensation to the real Keith Laird. You may argue that it just a coincidence, but considering the real Keith is not only a fire safety inspector too, but he works for Bolton City Council, which is where Peter Kay is from and where Phoenix Nights is set, so they had no defence for it really.
I worked with a Mexican guy, a Japanese girl and a Swedish guy in a bar some time ago and introduced them to phoenix nights. They all loved it. Some of it doesn't translate, but I've no idea how many jokes in Family Guy or South Park I don't get because they refer to American football, commercials etc.
Missed the goated line, “psychic wants to know what time he’s on” with the reply “if he’s any good he’ll already know” 😂 and who the hell brought you onto Derek Acorah 🤣
Dog Ruff Just a think we say over here, hear it a lot of some of us hungover. “I feel dog rough this morning.” Just spell the Rough as Ruff cause that’s what sound a dog makes 😀 Kind of a double whammy!
Just live in Stockport, Manchester for a month and you’ll get all the jokes. They are thick and fast, but northern uk humour. Well done for having a crack 👍
Like others have commented looks like you missed Brian saying that Keith Lard had been charged with bestiality concerning a dog. This was followed throughout the sketch by references to dogs. Dog rough is a a saying used to describe someone looking the worse for wear or someone ugly etc. What is ironic is there was a real fire safety officer called Keith Laird working for the local fire brigade in the Bolton area who complained people would think the Peter Kay Keith Lard character was based on him!
Keith Laird, who the character apparently wasn’t based on, was a fire safety officer for Bolton council (where Peter Kay is from) and looks a lot like Keith Lard. But no, the character wasn’t based on him👀😂
Laird used the phrase "fire kills in minutes, smoke kills in seconds" which Kay used in the show. That was pretty damning evidence despite Kay's denials and in the end, Laird got a payout as compensation.
Remember episode 1 when he emptied the vase of flowers so that the vase reached the spirit optics whilst sitting in his wheelchair. It became his regular glass.
The first thing Brian Potter said when he seen Keith the Lard was “he got done for interfering with dogs” but seemed like all the little dog references and jokes went straight over your head. Also Sonia who got quizzed at the psychic is Peter Kay’s actual wife
The other thing is I am north UK and these k8nd of clubs and even characters existed in 70s 80s. Kay nails this side of british history though exaggerated 😅😅
the whole Keith Laird thing is interesting. Kay denied basing the character on Laird but the evidence that he did was actually quite damning, especially the fact that Laird, a fire safety officer in Kay's home city, used the phrase "fire kills in minutes, smoke kills in seconds." Laird claimed that the inference that he might be into bestiality would ruin his reputation, and Peter Kay ended up paying him damages.
The joke about he can walk was shown in the original called "in the club". At the end when the club is on fire he actually gets out of the chair to shout at the fire men
Dog her off was a reference to Keith Lard and his canine antics; and what is “necessary” to get Potter’s licence back. Nudge nudge wink wink say na more
I've sat through many a fire safety officer talk at work over the years and although exaggerated Keith lard is every one of them. Ha ha. Got all of phoenix nights on dvd, going to start watching them again. For got a lot of things from them, brilliant.
Originally when they were writing it, they had the idea that Brian *could* walk, and he was scamming people. In the end they dropped that sub-plot, but there's still a few hints at it, like Clint telling him he can walk. In episode 1, when Brian arrives at the club he moves (off camera) from his mobility scooter to wheelchair really quickly to hint that he can use his legs!
Yes it was clever to make us wonder if he could, until the episode where Brian finds the new love of his life... but let's not go there as Brian hasn't seen that one yet so we don't want to spoil it for him!
I love the fact that you are giving this series a go- it's niche but the characters will grow on you and the situations will always be silly and not implausable for a working men's club booking budget.
Those acquainted with the individual who inspired Keith's character would recognize that the disclaimer at the end was a necessity. Moreover, they contributed financially due to this association. The portrayal of mannerisms and dialogue is strikingly accurate, underscoring the peril of closely modeling a character after someone you know, especially if it insinuates negative traits. Alex Lowe, who portrays psychic medium Clinton Baptiste, has seamlessly integrated this character into various Peter Kay programs, as well as his own productions and radio appearances, since then.
Keith Lard makes an appearance in the more or less prequel to this show and Peter Kay‘s first TV series titled “that Peter Kay thing “ An episode called eyes down set in a bingo hall which is funny enough filmed a short walk from my house. One of the episodes called in the club was the first appearance of Brian Potter and the Phoenix club before it got its own series
There's some really good ones coming up. Phoenix nights came from a series he did where each episode was set in a different place. A bingo hall, a fast food place, . It was a bit hit and miss. It was called that Peter kay thing. Also max and paddy the bouncers had a spin off series too. Hope you enjoy it. Keep booming muppet man.:)
As already mentioned, its worth looking at the previous series That Peter Kay Thing. A mockumentary style series of which the Phoenix Club is one episode. But he plays great characters in all of them
Remember when this aired they had a disclaimer at the end with a disclaimer saying Keith lard was not based on Keith Laird..who was a fire safety guy in the area at the time 😂
Have you watched That Peter Kay Thing yet? If not you need to watch him as the ice cream man Mr Whippy it's absolutely hilarious 🤣 my fave of all his characters
The Keith Lard character is actually from another series of Peter Kays called "That Peter Kay Thing" and each week it focused on a different profession. If you only watch one episode , make it "The Iceman Cometh" , that one is hilarious. Clinton Baptiste is actually a piss take of Derek Acorah, so you were spot on with that one.
The real Keith Laird, who the character may or may not be based on did work for Bolton Council at the time. Dog Rough means Ugly. Den Perry is basically calling the Pheonix a Shit Hole. Phoenix is typical of the Manchester area with Manc and Lanc accents. Fred Dibnah territory, just down the road. "Tuther Side" of a town called Ramsbottom from me. If no one has mentioned it, Brassic might give you a giggle.
The Fire Cheif in episode is actually based on the mannerisms of the real life Fire Cheif of Bolton where the series is filmed, he didn't take the joke very well 😂
My mum was a teacher in Bolton at the time this episode came out. She said that none of the teachers were able to keep a straight face when he came to give fire safety talks after it aired because they'd got his mannerisms spot on.
@@finncullen My dad was police sergeant at Astley Bridge during that time so had actually met Mr Laird, I remember him rolling in laughter when this episode aired and he explained after that it was definitely based on him despite that note after the episode. Correct me if I'm wrong as it was a long time ago but didn't he also try to take action against Peter and the production team as his reputation took one hell of a knock 😂
Bit of the Streisand effect going on though, as most people outside of the local area would never have known.
no he didnt
@@jabba7746 Yes, Channel 4 paid him compensation in addition to the apology
That delivery of “nonce” is so good, it will never fail to make me laugh and poor John, you know he’s still getting shit from the missus today! Keep up the great work King B!
The great Clinton Baptist, who has a podcast.
"dog rough" - "Very rowdy, disorderly, and dangerous. Very difficult and unpleasant."
a great dig at both Keith Lard and Brian Potter.
Dogger off 😂😂
@@mrmoran0077 Wooofff!! 🤣🤣
paddy and max is way better then phoenix nights...
@@shysociety39definitely not
DOG ROUGH and other DOG references relate to Keith Lard getting arrested for beastiality .. 'spaniel 🐕🦺 on his lap'
Phoenix nights was the funniest and best thing peter kay ever did!! Once you get into the characters its comedy gold, one of the best comedies ever!!
I feel like when he starts understanding the accents a bit better too a lot more stuff will click but its fair enough if he’s struggling to catch all the words😂
He said "dog rough" I think you missed the dog jokes, at the start Brian said about Keith lard got caught interfering with dogs 😂
I'd forgotten a lot of the nuances in the series and I wasn't sure if the aniseed flavoured gum might somehow become involved as well.
This episode had me proper laughing! Not seen this for, fifteen years? Forgot how good it was....and still is! Thanks KB!
Clinton Baptiste is currently touring in his own show. Brilliant character.
Peter Kay allowed Alex Lowe to carry on the character and yes he makes live appearances - spot on with the Derek Acorah connection.
I saw him last year he was bloody brilliant😂😂😂
He also has his own podcast
His ‘Mystic Hunt’ is on RUclips.
Yes my mate went to watch derek acorah a few years ago, when he told me his wife had got them tickets I said, I’m getting the word nonce😂
Glad to see Phoenix Nights getting your attention, it’s all filmed just a few miles from my house.
paddy and max is way better then phoenix nights...
No chance @@shysociety39
@@shysociety39 nah
My favourite audition character is the one legged Elvis singing “Blue suede Shoe”.
"You've gotta be cruel to be kind!" He was definitely based on Derek Acorah.
When you're done with Phoenix Nights you could move on to Max & Paddy's Road to Nowhere; a spin-off featuring the wacky adventures of the two doormen.
I’m getting the word
Classic quote.
Phoenix Nights is one of those series where you can rewatch and notice loads of subtleties you missed first time.
Such as the Ford you see outside, slowly having its parts stolen as the show progresses. Don't think anyone's pointed that out yet
As "Max" is ordering the diver's watch you can hear him in the background saying, "I can swim" over the phone, brilliant. There's an outtake that shows it more obviously.
The auditions at the end just get funnier and crazier!
Dog rough can refer to many things. If you have a hangover you can feel dog rough. A woman who isn't that attractive can be described as dog rough, or as in The Phoenix Club, dog rough means outdated, undesirable, trouble and a reference to Keith Lard fiddling dogs
Just to let you know as a massive inbetweener fan that you are ! The Den Perry character is charlottes from the inbetweeners uncle in real life, her mum is also in one of the future episodes. Ted robbins who plays the character is also first cousins with Paul McCartney.
The references to Kieth Lard was that he was supposed to have been caught having a sexual experience with a dog. Hence all of the dog jokes. At the end of the first half the phrase "dog rough" means feeling tired and over worked, but the joke falls on Keith ....as in dog reference........
Think King Boomer missed that whole ongoing joke...
Love you're reacting to my home town show. Oh and Den Perry said its dog rough, which means it's a sh1t hole 🤣
You've made some kind of journey, being able to appreciate this level of UK humour :)
Lol his big glass is a flower vase. He dumped the flowers in episode 1 lol
Thats not a glass, its a vase for flowers 😁
He's used it since episode 1, because he can't reach the optics behind the bar from his wheelchair with a normal glass😊
@@vilebrequin6923I was gonna comment this cuz it’s something that continues & is highlighted many other times, so it’s good to let him know that!!? 👍
I think he paints the vase black in series 2!? 🤣
@@MikeyNottzits not painted its burnt from the fire 🔥
@@Benj1030 oh yeah, of course it’s cuz of the fire, I had a brain fart!? 🙄🤣🤣
@@MikeyNottz black paint? Classy!😁
The ongoing joke about him drinking from a vase is that he is helping himself to drinks from the optics behind the bar, which he can only reach with a vase since he has been in the wheelchair. This was shown in Episode 1 and has continued since
“It’ll only be for a couple of days…” - “That’s what they told Terry Waite” ……. Poor guy was help captive for 4 years. Savage joke but could have easily slipped by without a mention.
Highly recomend after Phoenix Nights watching the spin off series to it "Max and Paddy's Road to Nowhere". Very funny series of the two doormen in Phoenix Nights buy a motorhome and travel around the UK getting into all sorts of trouble.
Glad to see you enjoying Phoenix Nights, it's absolutely brilliant 😂
Can’t believe Boomer missed the whole interference with dog reference 😂
Keith Lard first appeared in ‘Eyes Down’, one of a series of films commissioned by Channel 4 and broadcast in 1999, Kay wrote six different ones, from an angry ice cream man to ‘In The Club’ which was essentially a prototype for Phoenix Nights.
The one most suitable for a series was chosen and though some of the other films were really good, one based in a struggling Northern Club had the most scope
Despite their denials, Lard had a similar mustache as well as job in the same town.
Kay has always based his characters on people and places he knew, admitting that the disgruntled employee of the bingo hall portrayed in ‘Eyes Down’ was a lot like him in a similar job.
But with Keith Lard, hilarious as it is, he seemed to overstep the mark.
If you get the chance to see ‘That Peter Kay Thing’, the series of films, highly recommended but unlikely you can access them.
I brought my DVD of it 20 years ago and there was no fall out from Keith Lard when broadcast as few saw them, as opposed to Phoenix Night 0:26 s three years later.
I know there are some of them on DailyMotion but not sure if all episodes are on there. The Icecream Man Cometh is still hilarious.
In the club, the phoenix nights pilot and Eyes Down Kieth Lard's introduction. That Peter Kat thing was brilliant. As well as the Ice-cream man cometh there also was at the top, about a self-obsessed pop star.
Yeah the mini episode was based in a bingo hall, and again peter kay played multiple parts in all these shows - there was also one based in a motorway service station
@ KingBoomer 13:15 he said "I'd watch yourself down there if I was you, Keith. It's dog rough" implying it's a bad situation for a fire inspection. And he used that term because the town heard a rumor that Keith shagged a dog. So 'dog rough' is a double entedre to both make fun of Club Phoenix as a competing business, and Keith for what he allegedly did.
Keith Laird used occasionally train my football team when I was a kid. He was Scottish and was either a semi or professional footballer from Dundee or somewhere like that in his younger days. Decent bloke to be honest.
I love Phoenix nights it's comedy gold and Robbie Coltrane will always be the DIAL A BUS DRIVER DAVIE ON STILL GAME A TRULY GREAT COMEDY FROM SCOTLAND
Oh yes, when he takes them all up into the Highlands after a mental breakdown. Then knocks Bobby of his bike. Classic comedy. Currently following it on a great reaction channel, 'eddy cheeee'. He'll be posting his next Still Game reaction probably in about a half hour. Please give him a subscribe and follow, he's a young creator who's smile and laugh are infectious. And he doesn't go into woke or PC BS either. Tell him I sent you. The last episode he did was when Winston's accumulator came up and Stevie fkd off. Please give the young lad a try. I'm sure you'll thank me. Ohhh and back to Robbie Coltrane. I'm with you and 'Davie' on the 'Dial A Bus' episode. Eddy Cheeee (not misspelled), hasn't done that episode yet. And Robbie Coltrane will also be 'Cracker' to me. I'm not into Harry Potter or James bond.... I'm 55 years old lol.
@@enkiofsumer8374 He did good comedy stuff too like The Pope Must Die and Nuns on the Run , but my favourite was him as Dr.Johnson in Blackadder .
Another great reaction KB . All the dog joked were because Keith Lard had been accused of ' interfering 'with dogs. The jokes start with Den Perry introducing Keith as " and now here to take the LEAD " , " UNLEASH our next guest "OUR NEXT GUEST and " His BARK is worse than his bite " . Den is played by Ted Robins who is the uncle of Emily Atack , who played Charlotte in The Inbetweeners .
Ted Robbins (like all his sisters too) is a cousin to Paul McCartney.
The acronym N.O.N.C.E stands for 'not on normal courtyard exercise', according to a prison documentary, and apparently was first coined at H M P Wakefield, a top security jail in Yorkshire.
Good knowledge, never knew that.
I think you mat have missed the introduction to Kieth Lard.
"He was caught 'interfering' with dogs. He went to court and everything. It was in the papers"
"He got away with it?!
"You try get an Alsatian to testify!"
Then there are a load of dog related puns, finishing with 'dog rough'.
😂
Watch that bit again!!
Robbie coltrane to me was in comic strip presents 1st episode and the young ones x
Don't forget Robbie in "Cracker"
everyone references their Potter characters.. lot of us are too old for that bollocks! 😏
Robbie was in Cracker - a great series that was. I actually thought the clip in the show was Robbie in Cracker but it was on a foreign satellite chanel so was dubbed.
18:51 the big glass is actually a vase and he uses it in episode 1 to get himself a drink. Because the work man and put the spirits to high for him he used a vase to get it.
@@DadgeCityI took that bit out as he mentions it at the end.
See, you got more of the jokes than you thought you would 😂😂😂
Watched Clinton Baptiste 3 times live 😂😂 he is hilarious 😂😂😂😂😂
3:58 For those of you who are too young to remember or not familiar with British/ Middle Eastern politics Terry Waite was a British hostage negotiator working for the Church of England, he was sent to Lebanon to negotiate the release of 4 hostages but was kidnapped himself and held from 1987 to 1991.
Sonia, the woman the psychic talks to and asks about her health, is Susan Gargan, Peter Kay's wife.
I think you managed to miss every dog joke during the Keith Lard bit! I reckon you can watch this back again and find a gag in every sentence. Funny as feck
Rumour has it that when David Bowie met Peter Kay he greeted him by saying” I’m getting the word… nonce!” 🤣
Robbie Coltrane was also on Comic Strip presents which had the likes of Dawn French, Emma Thompson, Peter Richardson etc
They had to pay £10,000 compensation to the real Keith Laird. You may argue that it just a coincidence, but considering the real Keith is not only a fire safety inspector too, but he works for Bolton City Council, which is where Peter Kay is from and where Phoenix Nights is set, so they had no defence for it really.
“Burn baby burn, disco inferno” are lyrics from a disco song on the Saturday night fever soundtrack
I worked with a Mexican guy, a Japanese girl and a Swedish guy in a bar some time ago and introduced them to phoenix nights. They all loved it. Some of it doesn't translate, but I've no idea how many jokes in Family Guy or South Park I don't get because they refer to American football, commercials etc.
One of my favourite comedy's 😊
Missed the goated line, “psychic wants to know what time he’s on” with the reply “if he’s any good he’ll already know” 😂 and who the hell brought you onto Derek Acorah 🤣
Dog Ruff
Just a think we say over here, hear it a lot of some of us hungover. “I feel dog rough this morning.”
Just spell the Rough as Ruff cause that’s what sound a dog makes 😀
Kind of a double whammy!
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always cracks me up.
Just live in Stockport, Manchester for a month and you’ll get all the jokes. They are thick and fast, but northern uk humour. Well done for having a crack 👍
He’s not a lady. Thems that have cracks. I’m also from Stockport.
You know my biggest fear? Rabies! I think you missed the dog references, always has me in stitches!
Like others have commented looks like you missed Brian saying that Keith Lard had been charged with bestiality concerning a dog. This was followed throughout the sketch by references to dogs. Dog rough is a a saying used to describe someone looking the worse for wear or someone ugly etc. What is ironic is there was a real fire safety officer called Keith Laird working for the local fire brigade in the Bolton area who complained people would think the Peter Kay Keith Lard character was based on him!
Keith Laird, who the character apparently wasn’t based on, was a fire safety officer for Bolton council (where Peter Kay is from) and looks a lot like Keith Lard. But no, the character wasn’t based on him👀😂
Laird used the phrase "fire kills in minutes, smoke kills in seconds" which Kay used in the show. That was pretty damning evidence despite Kay's denials and in the end, Laird got a payout as compensation.
Remember episode 1 when he emptied the vase of flowers so that the vase reached the spirit optics whilst sitting in his wheelchair. It became his regular glass.
You really must watch the one where they held a "Family Fun Day" at the club. One of the best imho.
He uses a big glass ( which is a flower vase) so he can reach the optics behind the bar.
Dog rough! Rough as fuck 👍 Reference to the fire guy into dogs! Again subtle
The first thing Brian Potter said when he seen Keith the Lard was “he got done for interfering with dogs” but seemed like all the little dog references and jokes went straight over your head.
Also Sonia who got quizzed at the psychic is Peter Kay’s actual wife
The other thing is I am north UK and these k8nd of clubs and even characters existed in 70s 80s. Kay nails this side of british history though exaggerated 😅😅
the whole Keith Laird thing is interesting. Kay denied basing the character on Laird but the evidence that he did was actually quite damning, especially the fact that Laird, a fire safety officer in Kay's home city, used the phrase "fire kills in minutes, smoke kills in seconds." Laird claimed that the inference that he might be into bestiality would ruin his reputation, and Peter Kay ended up paying him damages.
The ping ball ending is the best. I can't wait for you to see it.
The joke about he can walk was shown in the original called "in the club". At the end when the club is on fire he actually gets out of the chair to shout at the fire men
Dog her off was a reference to Keith Lard and his canine antics; and what is “necessary” to get Potter’s licence back. Nudge nudge wink wink say na more
Haha been looking forward to your reaction to the psychic can't wait for the bouncy castle 😂
If you like Robbie Coltrane and Eric Idle, i recommend Nuns On The Run.
It will only be for a couple of Days, That's what they said to Terry Waite, classic.
I've sat through many a fire safety officer talk at work over the years and although exaggerated Keith lard is every one of them. Ha ha. Got all of phoenix nights on dvd, going to start watching them again. For got a lot of things from them, brilliant.
Originally when they were writing it, they had the idea that Brian *could* walk, and he was scamming people. In the end they dropped that sub-plot, but there's still a few hints at it, like Clint telling him he can walk. In episode 1, when Brian arrives at the club he moves (off camera) from his mobility scooter to wheelchair really quickly to hint that he can use his legs!
Yes it was clever to make us wonder if he could, until the episode where Brian finds the new love of his life... but let's not go there as Brian hasn't seen that one yet so we don't want to spoil it for him!
Fun fact:- the word nonce comes from prisons as the doors of those certain individuals said “Not On Normal Courtyard Exercise”
If you like Robbie Coltrane then watch “Nuns on the run” 😂
I love the fact that you are giving this series a go- it's niche but the characters will grow on you and the situations will always be silly and not implausable for a working men's club booking budget.
Those acquainted with the individual who inspired Keith's character would recognize that the disclaimer at the end was a necessity. Moreover, they contributed financially due to this association. The portrayal of mannerisms and dialogue is strikingly accurate, underscoring the peril of closely modeling a character after someone you know, especially if it insinuates negative traits. Alex Lowe, who portrays psychic medium Clinton Baptiste, has seamlessly integrated this character into various Peter Kay programs, as well as his own productions and radio appearances, since then.
Keith Lard makes an appearance in the more or less prequel to this show and Peter Kay‘s first TV series titled “that Peter Kay thing “ An episode called eyes down set in a bingo hall which is funny enough filmed a short walk from my house. One of the episodes called in the club was the first appearance of Brian Potter and the Phoenix club before it got its own series
There's some really good ones coming up. Phoenix nights came from a series he did where each episode was set in a different place. A bingo hall, a fast food place, . It was a bit hit and miss. It was called that Peter kay thing. Also max and paddy the bouncers had a spin off series too. Hope you enjoy it. Keep booming muppet man.:)
“Got off though dint he?”
You wanna try getting Alsatian to testify”
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The auditions at the end were really clubland turns, wait until you get to the one with the ping pong balls.
13:35...Dog Rough just means a place (or person) is downmarket or unpleasant.
Also another jab at Keith Lard's infamy regarding dogs.
21:42 is actually Peter Kays wife. Cant wait to see peter live on Saturday night! 😂😂😂
this made it to youtube, and there is not that much pop music in this series. we love this for what it is
Quote from Keith Lard: "It's not fire that kills people. It's ignorance. Ignorance and smoke."
KING BOOMER, the more episodes you watch the funnier it gets, once you know the characters it gets better n better.
Peter Kay's night club rival, with the blue tie, is Paul McCartney's cousin.
Robbie Was in “ Nuns on the run “ in my opinion a comedic masterpiece.
As already mentioned, its worth looking at the previous series That Peter Kay Thing. A mockumentary style series of which the Phoenix Club is one episode. But he plays great characters in all of them
Big Glass.
Did you not notice him take the flowers out of the vase in the first episode because he couldn’t reach the spirit dispenser??
Another good Robert Coltrane acting appearance is in Oceans Twelve
My knee ACHES! Everyday is my fave line from robbie coltraine in goldeneye
Yes well done Clinton Baptise is based off Derek Acorah! Clinton is doing shows and touring around the UK right now lol.
Remember when this aired they had a disclaimer at the end with a disclaimer saying Keith lard was not based on Keith Laird..who was a fire safety guy in the area at the time 😂
Which just drew down attention on himself. The Streisand Effect a few years early 🙂
Have you watched That Peter Kay Thing yet? If not you need to watch him as the ice cream man Mr Whippy it's absolutely hilarious 🤣 my fave of all his characters
He said, its 'dog rough'. Den Perry was just calling Brians pub a shithole haha
All the dog references are because Keith was charged with interfering with dogs.
Please watch the outtakes from this when you're done too. It's probably funnier than the episodes
The psychic "Clinton Baptiste" still does comedy shows across the UK!
Dog rough. Just like rough as a badger's arse. And you might have missed Keith Lard has interfered with dogs hence the dog references.
"i'm Getting the word nonce" lol. Indoctrinated into British culture.. I say this sooo many times lol
The Keith Lard character is actually from another series of Peter Kays called "That Peter Kay Thing" and each week it focused on a different profession. If you only watch one episode , make it "The Iceman Cometh" , that one is hilarious. Clinton Baptiste is actually a piss take of Derek Acorah, so you were spot on with that one.
1:20 - that must be (MUST BE) the quickest you've paused a show after starting it. 🤣
He said dog rough 😂 not dogger off 😂 he was taking the piss out of Keith Lard because he got arrested for fiddling with a dog 😂😂😂😂
The real Keith Laird, who the character may or may not be based on did work for Bolton Council at the time. Dog Rough means Ugly. Den Perry is basically calling the Pheonix a Shit Hole. Phoenix is typical of the Manchester area with Manc and Lanc accents. Fred Dibnah territory, just down the road. "Tuther Side" of a town called Ramsbottom from me. If no one has mentioned it, Brassic might give you a giggle.