THE BIG PORSCHE CAR SWAP: 996 Carrera v 993 v 987 Cayman (part one)
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- Опубликовано: 22 авг 2020
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This episode is a ROAD TO REDLINE TAKEOVER special!
You may or may not know I also have a podcast, Road to Redline, which I co-host along with my buddies Andy Brookes and Joe Williams. Road to Redline is a Porsche-centric podcast, as we're all Porsche owners, and it's available across all podcast platforms!
We're now on to series 2, yet it occurred to us we'd not actually driven each other's cars yet. So, what better way to assess each other's ride (and take the mickey a little!) than to get up early on a Sunday for a blast through the countryside?!
In part one here, you'll be introduced to my podcast co-hosts and their current Porsche, before joining us on our drive from West Bay to Poole, swapping cars along the way. Can the 996 hold a candle to its 993 Carrera predecessor, and can the 987 Cayman race car bridge the gap to its 911 superiors?
Part two drops soon, where we discuss the merits of each car and pick a winner from our Porsche 996 v 993 v 987 Cayman head-to-head!
We had great fun putting this together, and hope you have just as much fun watching our adventure. Let us know what you think of each car in the comments below… let battle commence!
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A random carrera GT appears in the car park what are the chances.😍
Got to say I am always amused by the criticism of the 996 interior against that of the 993. The 993 is old fashioned, switch gear is scattered everywhere and sitting behind it the steering wheel one is confronted with an interior from the 70's that has not aged well. But words like classic and well built are thrown around because we are all required to worship at the altar of air cooled 911's. It is just hilarious and is based on prejudice not reality. A 996 dash looks dated today because it is more than 20 years old, however it is miles better in looks and ergonomics than the 993 or any air cooled 911.
The plastic complaint is easily fixed with a visit to an upholsterer or alternatively wait for one that has been specified to your taste. The great thing with the 996 is that they made a lot of them and speaking from personal experience a 996 with a full leather interior and the carbon fiber highlights is a very nice place to be and the only people who comment negatively are the air cooled guys in their anoraks, everyone else gets in and comments how nice it is.
Well put. My 996 is full leather and apart from the plastic air vent and radio surrounds, it is way better than 993's.
@@WheelNuts My 996 have event the air vents + speakers in leather. also agree with MrCarrera28
@@WheelNuts agree!
So, so right.
As we now know, the 996 interior was meant for the 993 but due to Porsche's lack of budget then, it was not implemented. Wonder what the elitists would say about the 993 interior if the original plan went through?
Forget the Porsche cars. That Transit van at 3.55 looks awesome,,,!
My 996.2 C2 has full leather so I’m always surprised with the plastic comments. Regarding squeaks & rattles mines fine apart the occasional rattle from somewhere in the passenger door...wish I could find them it’d be perfect
I owned a few 911 and after nipping a bit on Porsche’s mid engine proposition, I fell in love with those.... so, after almost 25 years with Porsches in my garage, I prefer Cayman/Boxster by quite a bit....
jogu123 Interesting comment, I’ve owned my Boxster S for 5 years and love it but have always wondered what the ownership of a 911 would be like.
Kieron Smith ...a less balanced, less nimble car - however, a lot more admiration from others....
Kieron Smith , It’s different. Boxster/Cayman have better initial turn in easier to get to the limit safely. Smaller cabin. 911 feels after yet ability to vault out of corners is notable and the cabin is roomier. My 996 manual cab is a winner with kids, and yet, I found 5 years of prior Boxster ownership memorable. I can forsee having a Cayman alongside my 911 cab
My 1999 911 996 w/ 55K on the clock w/ LN Ceramic IMS, Water pump, AOS, Clutch etal~~ I'll keep the 996!! As I have had 3 previous Air Cooled Porsches. Also, as I live in the deep south in the USA, I LOVE the Air Conditioning! We need A/C down here..
Air cooled guys can and never will admit to liking a 996, and 911 guys can never admit to liking any Porsche other than a 911 🙄 There will always be a "but" because everyone is afraid by admitting they like another model it will somehow devalue their own car. I am fortunate to have owned both air cooled and water cooled 911's and transaxle cars. I have driven a quite few Caymans and Boxsters too. They are all fantastic cars, each with their own distinct character. It is not so much about what is better, but what suits your taste and driving style better.
Instead of choosing a winner why not celebrate the marque and its awesome lineup?
Thank you.... my 996 with it's fried egg headlights and dated interior.... I step on the gas, rail a turn, nothing else matters.
those fuch wheels and ducktail on the 996 look really cool !
996.1 99 cab manual with almost no options, and I like the compact gauges being readily viewable through the wheel, unlike prior gen 911, and while the doors don’t close with a satisfying sound, my plastic fantastic does not rattle. Loved the 90s Jaguar XJ in the initial background, that’s my other car, alas the architecture there I cannot have here in CO, USA. Cayman Boxster have fantastic turn in and can be pushed more safely to the limit. Really! 993, oh that sound is great.
Porsche enthusiasts discuss cayman vs air cooled vs water cooled but ignore Carrera GT
I think you've stumbled upon your new reality show! I could watch this every week with different guests :)
I’d gladly take the 993. Beautiful car!
Love this channel
You need to have a drive of my Cayman R Lee, I think you might change your mind.
This was a great idea!
Keep the videos coming Lee ;-)
So the squeak in the 996 wasn’t the back seats then?
Very good vid
Good job
I’m not sure what’s going on with that 996. Mine doesn’t rattle like that. Don’t tar all 996s with the rattle brush. The E46 M3s I tried before buying my 996 were much worse.
Mines got one in the rear which drives me nuts. My e46 M3 also had them but felt a better interior than my 996
@Simmo TVR what’re your thoughts on M3 versus 996 versus TVR?
As much as I love air cooled 911's due to London ULEZ charge I don't find them attractive anymore therefore 997.2 for me seems to be the pinnacle of where 911's could go. When I went to visit Hexagon one of UK's leading Porsche dealers they themselves are of the opinion 997.2 is the sweet spot (see London fields interview with Magnus walker), they also go on to say anything after the 997 is Audi influenced. However if I had the money I would have all of them.
Lee if you are ever back down Bridport way again ,come drive my 97 993 C2 coupe RHD manual with a few tweaks and my 996 C4S manual with a loud switchable exhaust
Would love that, thanks for the offer!
Ducktail is the man-bun of the Porsche world. It's way overdone, fellas.
Swapping driver seats with mates are my favorite activity! It’s so inspirational and educational to get to try new/other cars to get to hone in your preferences right.
Never owned a 993 and just driven 3 ex (C2 and 2x Turbos) but always held the 964 to be the more interesting ride and better looking. The Caymans are just sweet as honey but I’m afraid I’ll loos interest too fast as they just don’t feel special enough.
The 996s are just marvelous for the price of a VW Polo, but agree on the interiors. They are shoddy. The best 996’s are probably in GT3 guise, as they rattle and bang so loud anyway that you forget all about the shiny plastic bits, while hitting your helmet against the roll cage while wedging your balls blue in the harnesses🥶
Lee says he couldn’t go round Europe in a / the Cayman.. The 1 he’s in is race prepped so probably not the most comfortable on long journeys,although European roads tends to be a lot smoother than our broken U.K. tarmac.. I’ve toured Norway approx 2,500 miles over 10 days and also the Alps n Pyrenees over 10 days covering just over 2,000 miles in a 981 Cayman S.. Coming from a 996 Turbo,the cabin of the 981 Cayman was just so much more a nicer place to be in.. And I’ve just (mid July) done a tour of the plains of Spain & the Pyrenees and covered 2,500 miles over 10 days in a 718 Cayman GTS (the 2.5L Turbo...tuned) also a great place to be in (the cabin) compared to my 996.. Bottom line,the Caymans are great cars to go touring / Hooning around Europe in..
Fancy seeing you in here.....
Peter Anderson
Sorry Pete,I cannot place you..
Where do I know you from?
@@foodjunky4685 tours, Red GT3 and then Viper green Cayman.
Ohhhhh, ’that’ Pete.. Never knew your surname.. You’re in my phone as Pete Red GT3 😁 😂 How you doin man,you good? And yes,fancy seeing you here.. I’m here representing / defending fellow Cayman owners honour, against Lee’s comment 🤣
@@foodjunky4685 yeah, that Pete 🤣🤣🤣 That wasn't really the best Cayman for a road test, trackday yes, road car no.
I did 2500 miles in the R on tour last year and it was faultless. 🐊
4:57 First I've heard about Pinky Lai describing the Cayman as a "marketing car"...? Even if true, he knew what the market wanted and took it upon himself to design one of the most beautiful cars to run off the Porsche production line... Kudos to him. I disagree with your comments about the Cayman being a car for first Porsche ownership... Those types of comments give 911 owners a bad rep.
My first Porsche was a 997.1 S. My second Porsche is a 987.1 Cayman S. Yes, the 911 is a bit faster and more comfortable, but the Cayman is every bit as enjoyable to own and drive.
Interesting you went from a 997 to a 987. Both fantastic cars.
Unless you need the +2 seats, I don't see a reason to buy a 911 over a Cayman. If you want an out and out sports car, the Cayman is the one. After the 997, 911s became grand tourers.
@@1530swimmer I sold the 997 in early 2019 to help fund a sailboat purchase: ruclips.net/video/BJEYz0weMBA/видео.html. After about a year I found myself missing that whole Porsche/flat-6 experience, so I bought a 987.1 S because the buy-in wasn't nearly as high as the 997, but the fun factor and ownership experience was just as good. Other people may not appreciate the 987 as much because it will always be in the shadow of the 997. People will also denigrate it by saying it's just a Boxster with a roof (it's not), but it's still a really great car! When that 3.4 rolls onto Variocam at 5200rpm the sound and the rush are just glorious. 10/10 would rev again.
@@yetidh9 I bought the 911 first because it was a bucket-list thing for me. The cars are really very, very similar. I have just as much fun with the Cayman.
That phone Lmao
A 993 carrera along with a 996 GT3 Mk1
Lee got to ask you what is the make of your watch
It's the Bloxworth by Elliott Brown.
Sorry I don’t know his name, but the fella in the blue shirt removes me of Ricky Gervais 😂
Did you guys not notice the Carrera GT?!?? 🤪
What CGT 😂
Andy Brookes it’s almost impossible to see but if you squint real hard at 0:15 you just might be able to see it in the background...😜....even the cameraman seems to have seen it....😆
Yes .. was short before comment this, too :) lost concentration.. what are they talking about? There‘s a CarreraGT!! 😁
Interesting the 993 guy liked the Cayman.
I like all cars, even the 996 with its rattles 😄👍
How three 'enthusiasts' can miss a Carerra GT is beyond me. Looks are subjective but physics are not. The Cayman has these two old relics licked.
I suppose you think they happened to arrive together at exactly the moment when he started filming too.
swheel is on the right side where it should be lol but you uk people lol
hahahaha
Cayman bashing 🤣
Would rather have a cayman than a 996
Happy for you
I wouldn’t so for my first Porsche bought a 996. I believe and can understand they’ll be ace to drive but it’s just the looks I can’t get past
Simmo TVR what the looks of the 996 with those headlights ?
They really don’t bother me as the car just looks like a 911
Great job for 1st video. 993 good, 996 bad, Cayman best 😜
Cayman by a long shot. 993 nostalgia and last best 911. 996 nah even the owner is a proper bell end.
3:24 *Chairs?! **3:29** Those are called 'SEATS' mate! WTF! Chairs are what you have around your dining table.*
Fuck me dead
Cool story bro.
Please don't lean your butt on the side of any Porsche...
It's my Porsche so I'll do what the chuff I like, thank you kindly!
interior of 996 dose look like shittt agreed
Don't swap seats swap engines, maybe a Dodge hemi can get that euortrash crap to actually go somewhere, keep eurotrash in the EU