Ranking Every Legendary Fusion in Destiny 2 for Endgame PvE
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- Опубликовано: 25 июл 2024
- Third on our list of tier lists is fusion rifles: much less viable than snipers and shotguns in endgame PvE, and there's quite a bit fewer of them. I'm trying to get better at making these shorter, and there's music in this one :)
Tier list: tiermaker.com/list/destiny-2/...
Scoring sheet: docs.google.com/spreadsheets/...
DPS spreadsheet: docs.google.com/spreadsheets/...
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Timestamps:
00:00 Intro
10:25 Aurvandil FR6
11:11 Burden of Guilt
11:43 Cartesian Coordinate
12:39 Coriolis Force
13:19 Deliverance
14:11 Dream Breaker
15:07 Exile's Curse
15:44 Glacioclasm
16:24 Hollow Words
17:12 Iota Draconis
17:41 Iterative Loop
18:41 Likely Suspect
19:04 Loaded Question
19:46 Main Ingredient
20:20 Midha's Reckoning
22:02 Nox Perennial V
22:49 Null Composure
23:57 PLUG ONE.1
24:46 Pressurized Precision
25:46 Riptide
26:32 Royal Executioner
27:38 Snorri FR5
28:19 Techeun Force
29:07 The Epicurean
29:34 The Eremite
30:34 The Wizened Rebuke
31:09 Timelines' Vertex
31:40 Trinary System
32:20 Zealot's Reward
33:02 Outro Игры
Can’t wait for the 30 second wave frame tier list
the heavy waveframe video is gonna go even harder
Predictions
S: Forbearance
A: Explosive Personality, Harsh Language
B: Deafening Whisper, Martyr's Retribution
C: New Pacific Epitaph
S (can be mained because of Ambitious and Chain Reaction)
A (has ALH or reload perk and damage perks)
B (has ALH but no damage perk)
C (has damage perks that suck, and no reload/ALH)
I think new pacific epitaph would get some credit for being in the kinetic slot. Plus redirection is pretty damn good on it@@Technizor
@@luke1804redirection ass. Kinetic slot big W tho
@@Technizor new pacific epitaph wont be rated that low for as long as it is the only wave frame in slot
babe wake up, aegis is doing nasa tier mathematics again
rocket science??
Fucker beat me to the comment.
This is so cringe.
@@iwillneverreadyourreplysta7489 ???
@@iwillneverreadyourreplysta7489☝️🤓
A Top 5 Destiny 2 RUclipsr to date. You scratch that mathematical itch that the other guys can’t be bothered to do.
How the hell are you pumping out these extremely in depth analyses and tier lists whilst still making them entertaining to watch❤️
I am fuelled and threatened by chat
Becasue its not as in depth as you think it is
@@The_Genilitwrally going over every weapons perks, archetype, dps numbers and such.
Its as in depth as destiny gets
@@Vaultyboi22 admittedly that says as much about D2 community's standards as it does about this video.
Please don't take this as a hater thing, but: I've seen people call CoolGuy videos analytical before, which... his content is mostly weapon reviews about how different guns make him feel, which is the equivalent of an LFGer swearing up and down Thunderlord does big damage. He's a pretty strong Crucible player, so I'd give that more weight than some random RUclips commenter like me has to say, but it's still 99% fluff content. But this passes for analysis to D2 players, which is the part that actually bugs me.
In fact, I think the biggest condemnation of how little people actually notice about the game is the fact that they had to tell us about the new recoil system that came out this season in a TWID a month after it dropped because nobody noticed. Recoil is an incredibly important part of how this game works (especially in PVP), so how did literally zero people (or at least zero who were loud enough for me to encounter them) notice? No wonder we think "gun go brrr" is science.
from a content standpoint this wasn't THAT in depth all he did was skimmed through all the perks on DIM and gave his thoughts. Don't try to make it more than it really is due to bias. He didn't even dmg test everything nor does he say anything substantial about sleeper picks in most of these ranked reviews. It's all mostly common sense for a average d2 player. @@Vaultyboi22
Even without the tier lists, the pre-amble at the beginning explaining the various uses, benefits of different frames, and how to think about weapons from a high-end PVE perspective is insanely valuable. Thank you so much!
hi aegis, just wanted to say I appreciate all the content you make because it makes it easier for me to know what to grind for to make my builds good
I love the methodology behind these tier lists, extremely refreshing to observe in the space of Destiny 2 RUclips content. For some reason Null Composure is the only fusion I feel could be placed higher even though I agree with your assessment as applied to the list overall. Could be an underrating of Feeding Frenzy, but that could also be my bias in favor of this weapon. Great vid!!
Loving this series !! I watch the whole thing each time
Just wanna say, you have quickly risen to be one of my favorite d2 content creators because of how informative your videos are. Keep up the good work 👍.
Music Slaps!
Amazing work as always, keep at it man!
Thank you so much for your work. You're inspiring me to play more of d2 with every of your video. As big fan of watching speedruns of any game, your videos such enjoyable content for me. As for videos like this, thank you again for all info u bring to us. Good luck on your way to be one of the coolest person in d2 community ❤
Hey, man i wanted to thank you for making these and going so in depth for your reasonings on your placements
Your vid made me craft the defiance season fusion rifle & omg you’re right I’m having A BLAST in end game content with envious reservoir burst thank you!
Thank you for the heads up about iterative loop. I had a feeling which is why i havent crafted this fusion. But i was about to! Saved me 2 shards 😁
Coriolis Force is (and most of the Europa weapons for that matter are) such a mystery for me. We don't have more agg frame fusions according to Bungie because it wasn't well received but also, it has a really non desirable perk pool for it. The only thing on it that really takes advantage of the horizontal burst is OFA, and a case could also be made for Moving target since you would want to try to strafe to land all your bolts on one target. And all this is without considering its odd perk placements. It's a very nonsensical gun, and a self fulfilling prophecy imo, no clue what they were even trying for.
I see what you mean about the europa weapons... the only good one is biting winds for pvp but the rest are just a total mystery, like why would anyone ever use thermal erosion.
It's the only *legendary* aggressive frame fusion, but Delicate Tomb functions the same way when hipfired, with the option to ADS to have a normal spread, and it synergizes incredibly well with Arc 3.0 mechanics. Probably one of my favorite low-end content guns, and given its ability to spam AOE damage from jolt, the horizontal spread just doesn't feel nearly as out of place on it.
I probably wouldn't take Delicate Tomb into anything actually hard because I rarely take Arc generally into anything actually hard (aside from Combination Blow builds for solo dungeons and the like, but even then you probably want Tractor Cannon more), but I think if something like Stormcaller suddenly became one of the best raiding builds overnight, I'd use it way more.
@@HighFiveGhostenjoyer428 I used thermal erosion on my burning steps titan before they murdered burning steps, but honestly, I only used it because I like the feel of the gun. It isn't good.
Deliverance underrated here tbh. Demo+CC is a unique combo that provides some of the highest amount of utility out of any FR, specifically for osmio or renewal builds (I know that gets away from the scope of the list a little, but I find it’s a staple in my top slot alongside riptide for this reason)
I might've agreed last season, but the charge time has felt painful for freezing recently
Another benefit is I feel like the spread is more predictable so in GM'S I feel confident stunning and damaging from behind cover at a good distance, something I can't say the same for about Rapid Fires. I think it deserves a A because in it's element it is absolutely dominant
Deliverance is underrated only if you are a shadebinder warlock. It’s very good for that, but this is not a tier list for warlocks. Grasp hunter don’t need Deliverance and no one is playing stasis titan.
I already spoke about my thoughts on Deliverance vs. the community's general opinion of it but I'm glad you're enjoying using it on stasis subclasses :)
Since the chill clip nerf just happened I think the ranking is ok
Despite my love of Deliverance and belief it should be at least A tier due to double utility at the same time with demo and chill, this was absolutely amazing. First one of your videos I've seen. Subscribed and now gonna go find the rest of this series and see what else you do since this was done with an impressive amount of thought.
As many commenters have said so, the detail in these videos are really appreciated, I just hope you take the time off you need as well to recharge so you don’t burn out!
Good video. Prefer this list over the one u did yesterday on stream 👍. Keep up the good work
Yeah I redid it, wasn't happy with it
Can't beat that timing - just got done with the shotgun and sniper videos, and here this is, waiting to watch!
I've loved Midha's Reckoning since D1 (when you could snipe people across the map with it, which I can still do in the last sandbox). D2 I was so stoked it came back, and I use it often in raids and other end game content. Giving it A rating is very fair i think, as it could have better perks but it is still very good as is.
Iam a new sub, I really like the way you do these tier lists, no one else does them like this, really really good
Idk how you've managed to do one of these videos for the past 3 days. Probably my favorite Destiny creator atm.
I can understand the hype on riptide. I run it on my second character (warlock). But deliverance will always be my baby. First chill clip fusion. I got mine crafted and around 3000 kills before riptide even came out. My favorite
The man is non-stop!!
This is the one I was waiting for. Imo fusions are the best special ammo weapon type reservoir burst and controlled burst are just too good with recon or envious
I can't wait for zealots reward to be craftable. We would finally have a good craftable void fusion. Arc and solar both have god tier craftable fusions
bro no joke, i was so enamoured with your movement i forgot you were talking about fusions lol
I'm basically using these videos to force myself to delete bad weapons from my vault. GG, you're doing the lord's work.
new aegis video i'm seated
4:50 😂😭 Johnny malding fr
Finally, new opinion just dropped. /s
Looking forward to seeing the ranking after the chill clip nerf
I found this super helpful cos I just don't know what works well with what and with so many other options in the game they end up in the too hard basket. Now I have a better idea of what to scrap/keep and look out for in future drops.
I started using Cartesian again and man I forgot how good it feels. One of the best fusion during Season of the Lost.
Hey loved the video! ❤ Linear fusion tierlist next please?
Finally, the content that the D2 scene has needed publically available and accessible for YEARS. As someone who regularly tries to get my MMO/LoL friends into this game it sucks that D2 doesn't have much good analytical content like those games do. Work like yours definitely sets a good example for anyone else looking to make meaningful info content.
Aegis is gonna do a video on every weapon type before I even fully absorb the information in just the shotgun video alone
We need soon some solid option for void fusion rifle, let's hope that the revamp of perk for the weapon of GoS will help Zeaolt's
W video, thank you for ranking aegis
I have a royal with envious and incandescent and it’s great. Love it a lot!
Another banger video, but i would definitely advocate for a swap between Iota Draconis and the Hollow Words in the chart, even if it was based upon the points system.
21:40 Midha is definitely slept on. I lean fully into total damage for GM's.
Erimite is awesome, I love my reservoir envious roll, kinda sad it doesn’t have reconstruction, but I love it with my apex for very simple damage rotations, even if not the most optimal
cool to see the chat effect on scoring
Had to run it back you feel me
Aegis it would be awesome if you did this for every weapon type in the game these videos help so much. Thanks for the great content.
Doing it for all specials and heavies
Awesome can’t wait for the new vids
Cannot wait for the glaive teir list
Actually best D2 streamer and RUclipsr
I don't really use fusions, and the aurvandil makes me hate them. Then I hear your side note explanation of it and I'm like yeah that makes sense
another absolute banger let's go
Your videos are the best!
crazy u are just a insanely sane men, ur the d2 professor yeah that suits u, Aegis the Destiny 2 Professor❤
I like this ranking imo alot better then the last two felt more fair towards master and gms and day 1s over just speed runs which is good.
I really enjoyes these 3 videos so far and im looking forward to more
That's mostly because fusions aren't really used much in speedruns haha but yeah makes sense
I wonder how Coriolis Force compares to other fusion rifle damage base. I remember it doing really well and the only thing holding it back was the perks.
grats on 30k
I was surprised Cartesian wasn't S tier, but I can understand why. Banshee's LFG Vorpal roll with accel and charge time mw has been my go-to backup damage special for years now. It makes sense that controlled burst has supplanted vorpal, but I figured the dps difference between rapids and high impacts was larger.
Also, really glad I decided to grind GMs when it was loaded question week. Got envious/RB and overflow/ALH/CB.
30:30 but high impacts shoot slow af so I will never use them. Wouldn’t you want to use adaptive like defiance szn fusion or rapid fires?
watching this as i make my
lunch thx aegis
Awesome videos. Can you do a how you clean your vault or what you decide is worth it to keep in your vault.
Yeah it's in the pipeline
3 tier lists and 3 videos where I have zero discrepancies. Amazing
iterative loop is a mosnter in pvp with under pressure and kickstart, and voltshot in pve is a boss baker, criminal putting it only in decent tier
Voltshot in PvE is definitely not a boss baker any more (as I mentioned in the video), and that thing has no other good PvE perks for damage or utility
Trace rifle tier list gonna be wild.
Who's down for the 5 min video
@@TheAegisRelic all in s tier 💀
I’m hoping glaciocasm gets updated with controlled burst this dawning. Hopefully put void fusions on the map.
Envious assassin + controlled burst is just soooooo nice, I got the loaded question with that roll and with adept big ones it just makes it that much better. Can get over 17 rounds in the mag
Who cares
Another tier list who could've seen this coming
the goat stays on that easy content grind
Is shield disorient considered a good utility perk?
Ik its retired, but i still have some rolls on fusions with it
Nah lmao I used to use it for MVoG entrance during first season but stopped
Id like to suggest having a tab on the dps spreadsheet that shows base dps values for weapon archetypes. It is quite a lot to look at in the single and swap sheets to truly understand what is what. Would also make it easier to pick a specific weapon to choose to go for for whatever slot/situation you need.
Yeah I might but that stuff is available in Quantum as well
@@TheAegisRelic Wait, Quantum? What/where is that?
Bro Aegis are you addicted to dps testing and making spreadsheets? Thank you for all the top tier content :)
Probably
Great content!, Can you do a Linear fusion rifle video?
Hello Aegis I would like to say good job ⛄️
Actually enjoying these videos. Will you be doing this for all the weapon classes by any chance or will there be a cut off?
Specials, power, exotics
@@TheAegisRelic I understand why primaries are being left off but damn 😂
Can’t wait!
Never seen that route for the orb before at 1:07 , can't wait to die 4 times in a row trying it in LFG
you can practice it on your own, just load in solo and then when you have it down go lfg it
Make sure you're holding jump and you need dash or Speed Booster for the last jump
@@TheAegisRelicu don’t actually need these it’s just a lot more difficult I’ve done it with just high mobility and movement exotic
Primary DPS tier next. We need tier list for everything in the game. Shaders included.
Videos like these just show how far power creep has gotten in terms of perks and perk combos
How much better is controled vs reservoir in terms of dps, havent seen much videos about that new perk since it conception
Very similar
Daily dose of Aegis :D
I love how much work and detail you put in these videos. What sword are you using for those warlock skates in the video?
He used „the other half“ with a glitched double eager edge roll (the footage is from last weekend)
@@Ysl489Actually that sword is the stand vortex frame whose name can’t come to my mind right now. Vortex frames are much better than adaptive frames for well-skating
oh yea mb its thin precipice from last season isnt it, but anyways, it doesnt work anymore and that sword cant even roll regular eagers
@@ukemi-
can you do a primary tier list after you're done with specials?
You should try using the mousewheel click, opens a new tab of whatever u click, instead of right click and open new tab :) thx for the insight!
Yeah I'm aware I'm trying to break the habit :sob:
Aegis videos are the only place I know where people are weird about that. What gives?
I love these
Any recommendations on what to pair with BNS + Env edge transit? Attempting to match void synergy and the tier list suggest going with null composure seeing as thats the best void from the list. Any other void weapons you would recommend to use in a dump scenario after Edge is empty?
There aren't really any super solid void dump options besides FTTC Nessa
A weapon not being solar should not knock it down, acrius, bequest and hothead are all arc and strong picks
We're talking best in class here so yes it does unfortunately, but it's half a point so it's almost nothing for fusions
acrius and bequest are not used in swap rotations. apex is better than hothead at everything, so yes its worth less points
I can't wait to hear what you say about Coriolis force.
The archetype is fantastic, but the perks are awful.
We need another entry in the archetype.
Edit: I think you're being way too harsh on the archetype. The horizontal burst is only bad on wizard enemies and is viable in the same ranges as rapid fires.
The frame vs frame damage of the archetype is one of the best as well.
It charges fast and hits like a truck and fires all bolts at once to start charging again sooner.
We need a perk pool refresh on the thing. If it got a roll like rewind/controlled(or reservoir) it would instantly shoot up to A or S tier.
Also. Id personally swap nox with loaded question. Eremite completely invalidates loaded questions existance by being easier to get, enhancable, and a better singe. Nox however is the only choice for damage in the kinetix slot.
Loaded has better perk diversity but lacks craftable + solar, it scored lower than Eremite for a reason but I don't think it deserves a tier drop for essentially being the same fusion but Arc
Coriolis is definitely undeserving of a tier change from any quantitative perspective, the archetype isn't what dropped most of its points just so we're clear
@@TheAegisRelicI can understand loaded even if I don't personally agree.
Coriolis should definitely stay where it is (I'd move it above main ingredient, but that's a personal choice) The perk pool is just terrible.
I just wish that you'd go a little more into the archetype itself not being the problem. Everyone always blames the archetype and when I say that I wish we'd get another aggressive frame fusion it's always met with a "Coriolis force sucks. So we shouldn't get another.
People blame the archetype when the perk pool is the issue. Aggressives never even had a chance and I think that's a damn shame.
Yeah if we got more they'd be decent for sure
I'm wondering if rapid fire deserves a higher score just for the archetype. I was surprised to see cartesian still have noticeably higher usage than eremite, according to the destiny tracker.
I guess faster charge time really does make a difference in gameplay experience.
Tier list has been updated
@TheAegisRelic nice, I just found it. Yeah, the new list looks better and pretty much correlates to their popularity, lol.
Completely zoned out to my guy flying at mach 10 across kingsfall lol
Idk if Nox Perenial flew under the radar as much as it suffers from being a world drop and just doesn't fuckin drop.
Yeah it's unfortunate
babe wake up, the new game weapon tester with a big brain has posted a new weapon tier list
Plug one at d tier is criminal. I slay with that thing in both high end pve and pvp
Btw nox perennial V can get a lot more total reserves than the eremite
Noted in the sheet
thats my goat ❤
Is that strand sword a frankengun or did they add eager edge on roids while ive been on vacation?
the former
I can't to watch every video for every archetype
That's the third now. Bro u are insane.
But now confirmed
What situations call for doing fusion DPS? Is it if you’re using utility in your heavy a lot? (Tractor, Gally)
Nothing lol this is just for people that want to use them
19:22 this is what we call "foreshadowing" lmfao
Yo wat sword is that at the beginning?
1k is number 1 in my heart
Aegis doesn't sleep confirmed
not even gonna mention the synergy of compulsive reloader + omolon fluid dynamics on the snorri? :D
Crying rn
Wait what happened to voltshot? Been away from higher-end content this expansion, did something happen after the 15% nerf?
All the scalars got converted to the same number (and that number is like ~4000 a tick on Templar it sucks)
If a certain stasis fusion isn't S-tier, I'm gonna be mad. Good video tho.
Erm they nerfed it
@@subzero4190295the slow from chill clip got nerfed. but still good tbh
@@its_Pip its a pretty big nerf. It basically makes it unviable for stunning unstops, which was its primary purpose
@@subzero4190295 so its automatically bad now? idk man im still going to rock riptide
@@its_Pip not necessarily bad, just not meta anymore. Use it if you want, but there are much better options comparitavely now