Been there done that, back in 1996. We used to cut 3 in 1 batters on the drains with 621B, 631E's and D8N or D9N dozers shunting up the rear. A good Dozer driver would pick the pushpad of the scraper up and angle the bowl to start the cut right. We also had to climb in and out of channels on 2 in 1 batters, now that made the poopoo valve eat holes In the seat! On one channel there was a patch of black clay and the Dozer was having trouble staying on the batter, so two of the more adventurous boys decided to try cut it with the scraper and Dozer. They were doing fine til old mate on the dozer had his foot come off the decelerator peddle a smidge. Then the old 621 decided it was tired and want to have a lay down on it's side. After a bit of sling work we had her back on all 4s and with much cranking and black smoke she roared back to life.
*_Retired Landscape Architect.... 3:1 is the magic number for manageable slopes._* A 3:1 slope is the steepest grade for lawns. Steeper than that becomes a maintenance issue. Steeper slopes can be used where ground covers replace lawns. The steepest slopes are limited by types of soils, rainfall, and other factors. Cut slopes can be steeper than slopes made of fills. When all else fails, retaining walls are used. On developments with little room for 3:1 slopes, retaining walls are used. I live in a development on the side of a steep hill. There is an 8 foot retaining wall on down slope side, and a 7 foot retaining wall on uphill side. Road in front of driveway rises over 10 feet from center of my lot to center of next lot. Same on downhill side. Main road rises 50 feet from highway to entrance of development. It rises another 50 feet from the community building to my lot. Road is between 10 - 20 plus percent slope depending where your lot is located. *_I am in awe of equipment operators... they can 'feel' the right amount of slope._*
Did a similar thing when I first got in construction right outta high school.........mass ex job very similar to this one just a bit shorter, old cable operated clatterpillar push loads but the power unit was four wheeled. Anyway we were cuttin off the topsoil and someone had 'a moment' on top of the save heap at top speed and double blocked the can side of the winch instead of grabbing the lever for the ejector side........cable breaks, overflowing can drops and sinks about 3 feet into the save dirt, and remember that top speed part, it's a good thing it was rough on that job because we wore our stunt belts as to not get bucked off betwixt the cut and save heap on that haul road or I woukda looked like a 6' 4" scud missile launched outta the motherfather! Like the jolt you felt here Jeff, I have no doubt had I hit something as solid as this aggot you found it would've ripped the floor out of the can.
Sounds like you were running one of those, what was it... 830 scrapers? My homeboy Dale had two Army surplus units - one cable, one hydraulic. Used them to great effect digging ponds. Doubled as compactors on the dams!
It's hard to convey what shakin the dust off on those "bang" stops is like to someone who never sat in one is. I've seen some cowboys climb off them with bruises on their ribs from the steering wheel. When most people see how thick a cutting edge is off a 637 they can't imagine you could break one, but you sure can. Thanks for sharing
Jeff, We have the same material in Northern New Jersey, we call it Glacial Till, the mix is rock flour to boulders mixed with sand and gravel...hard as iron, boney as hell and turns to grease when wet. It is the terminal moraines where the Wisconsin Glacier stopped 15,000 years ago.
I worked in a coal strip job way back when I was in high school (late 70's). I was never any good with a scraper (we called them pans) I was good with the D9's and even operated a D11 for a few months (1st year they were available here I believe was 1980ish). Moved mountains!
We have nice soft clay with the occasional Boulder here in Nebraska and we cat-step our slopes then finish them off with a dozer I'm currently finishing a 20' slope right now so I can send you a video if you want showing how we do it with and without a dozer
I seen some outfits paint a strip on pan tires so foreman can see if you are spinning tires in cut. Normally they will fire you if you start ruining tires.
once again excellent camera placement, nothing like watchin a big yellow CAT come by. I bet Mr Griffy is missing you and is waiting at the gate (post) 😀
Just keep cutting it to tow your three to one down and inch over to make your slope longer than when it gets longer you can get on your slope things drag your slope on out
That material is a little like caliche in the southwest, but I think it is a volcanic tuft. Yeah on most jobs the grader is working the slopes as the scrapers are cutting it down. How many yds do you have to move? I guess that is hard to say since you need to move it 3 times. LOL Well except the tuft.
Long tuff haul In and out for your iron. I feel for Kenny, jeep and trailer. Oh and I guess that old truck driver also. You earn your peanuts on projects out in the boonies, but it’s beautiful. Wish I could help ya. I don’t suppose there isn’t a 4 legged zone open up there this time of year. Only the experienced take on a project like this one. I’m jealous of your work environment!!!
Time to get a bang bang license and pop them there annoying inclusions That would sure wake that pretty little valley up. Good to hear you did not do yourself a serious injury with the sudden stop Especially where the serious injury may have occurred
I have a picture in my head of that concrete truck driver from your last video, parked just off camera and shaking his head when you got that wheel in the air @2:15 . He'd have been saying you were insane, but with balls of steel.
If that was a company truck you gotta wonder just what the boss would be thinking if he saw that video. I'm betting that somebody probably brought it to his attention!
Old flat landed sitting here drinking coffee at 1100 ft. elevation waiting for a suppository to work (no s#it) and totally amazed by JPay. Oops. Gotta run . . .
For a 3 to 1 the slope has on foot of fall out 3 feet. Every 3 feet walking down the slope you go down 1 foot and I forget the slope percent it been a few years
I cut 3 to 1 slopes all the time with my dirt buckets. Quick question. Why are y’all still using grade stakes when GPS blade control takes all the guesswork out of it. It’s accurate, precise and saves a massive amount of time. All I do is Ag work and the design software is a little different than commercial construction design software but the principal is the same.
by the time you set up your gps I've already cut it and left☻ why don't I use it? because it's to much money for how many times I'd use it, would I use it if I had it? hell yes. but for me it would never pay for itself
Looks like you digging in the washout pile at a concrete plant. Not quite solid but it all sucks. Guess you gotta look toward the horizon and appreciate the view!
I've often thought in circumstances like these how handy something like a big old Single shank Kelly ripper from the 70's would be, mounted on the pusher block of a big scraper. You'd obviously have plenty of horsepower (600 or 700 hp) to rip but would need to watch wheelspin or shredded tires would happen but with a careful operator I reckon you could make it worthwhile, all without a big dozer present - just a thought🤔
Private, if it was government job there would be six people with brand new hard hats, & brand new boots. All on their on there cell phones & each making 100 grand a year.
You know that if you gas the rear motor when the front is 90* to the left or right, ya can turn around faster.(;>) Also, stay out of 4th and 7th gear, they tend to bounce a tad.(;>)...................Seriously though, I have to admit that I'm getting addicted to this channel.(:>)
💪👍👌 AWESOME🥃 to have spent the time in your WORLD tonight! "Reminds me of the 60's when you pour the fuel to them CAT"S and the SOOT rolls out the STACKS 🔥👍🤙 🤭🤭🤭🤪🤪 Getting that 9 up there sounds to be the ONLY ANSWER! THEN " THE ROCKS WILL ROLL / THE EARTH WILL MOVE" THANKS JEFF - BE SAFE 😍😍😍😍😍🙏
Okay so make a deep cut! Then put one side in cut , other on original grade. That cants the scraper to make the slope! So each time cut the slope, have to cut in the cut, then repeat cut angle of slope to get the degree/ angle and width of the slope? Kinda-sorrta- maybe?
Been there done that, back in 1996. We used to cut 3 in 1 batters on the drains with 621B, 631E's and D8N or D9N dozers shunting up the rear. A good Dozer driver would pick the pushpad of the scraper up and angle the bowl to start the cut right. We also had to climb in and out of channels on 2 in 1 batters, now that made the poopoo valve eat holes In the seat! On one channel there was a patch of black clay and the Dozer was having trouble staying on the batter, so two of the more adventurous boys decided to try cut it with the scraper and Dozer. They were doing fine til old mate on the dozer had his foot come off the decelerator peddle a smidge. Then the old 621 decided it was tired and want to have a lay down on it's side. After a bit of sling work we had her back on all 4s and with much cranking and black smoke she roared back to life.
*_Retired Landscape Architect.... 3:1 is the magic number for manageable slopes._*
A 3:1 slope is the steepest grade for lawns. Steeper than that becomes a maintenance issue. Steeper slopes can be used where ground covers replace lawns. The steepest slopes are limited by types of soils, rainfall, and other factors. Cut slopes can be steeper than slopes made of fills.
When all else fails, retaining walls are used. On developments with little room for 3:1 slopes, retaining walls are used. I live in a development on the side of a steep hill. There is an 8 foot retaining wall on down slope side, and a 7 foot retaining wall on uphill side.
Road in front of driveway rises over 10 feet from center of my lot to center of next lot. Same on downhill side. Main road rises 50 feet from highway to entrance of development. It rises another 50 feet from the community building to my lot. Road is between 10 - 20 plus percent slope depending where your lot is located.
*_I am in awe of equipment operators... they can 'feel' the right amount of slope._*
Did a similar thing when I first got in construction right outta high school.........mass ex job very similar to this one just a bit shorter, old cable operated clatterpillar push loads but the power unit was four wheeled. Anyway we were cuttin off the topsoil and someone had 'a moment' on top of the save heap at top speed and double blocked the can side of the winch instead of grabbing the lever for the ejector side........cable breaks, overflowing can drops and sinks about 3 feet into the save dirt, and remember that top speed part, it's a good thing it was rough on that job because we wore our stunt belts as to not get bucked off betwixt the cut and save heap on that haul road or I woukda looked like a 6' 4" scud missile launched outta the motherfather! Like the jolt you felt here Jeff, I have no doubt had I hit something as solid as this aggot you found it would've ripped the floor out of the can.
Sounds like you were running one of those, what was it... 830 scrapers? My homeboy Dale had two Army surplus units - one cable, one hydraulic. Used them to great effect digging ponds. Doubled as compactors on the dams!
Thanks for letting us hear the sound of the engines coming up to power. Miss the sound and the ground shaking as they went by
It's hard to convey what shakin the dust off on those "bang" stops is like to someone who never sat in one is. I've seen some cowboys climb off them with bruises on their ribs from the steering wheel. When most people see how thick a cutting edge is off a 637 they can't imagine you could break one, but you sure can. Thanks for sharing
Im always replacing edges and routers on 637 and 657 scrapers every day. I can confirm they do break off and a torch is your best friend for them
Jeff, We have the same material in Northern New Jersey, we call it Glacial Till, the mix is rock flour to boulders mixed with sand and gravel...hard as iron, boney as hell and turns to grease when wet. It is the terminal moraines where the Wisconsin Glacier stopped 15,000 years ago.
Research two words.... "Glacial gold". You might be in for a surprise.
I worked in a coal strip job way back when I was in high school (late 70's). I was never any good with a scraper (we called them pans) I was good with the D9's and even operated a D11 for a few months (1st year they were available here I believe was 1980ish). Moved mountains!
I was 8 when I first saw a Scraper and by lunch a saw it roll.... it was doing some very steep stuff.
Where was this How bad was the roll over
We have nice soft clay with the occasional Boulder here in Nebraska and we cat-step our slopes then finish them off with a dozer I'm currently finishing a 20' slope right now so I can send you a video if you want showing how we do it with and without a dozer
Thanks for taking the time to get all those cool camera shots especially that 3 pointer,bet that bolder is going to be fun😎🤗😎🤗
I seen some outfits paint a strip on pan tires so foreman can see if you are spinning tires in cut. Normally they will fire you if you start ruining tires.
You are one talented operator sir! hope to see some vidas when the fly in starts
Look'n good Jeff.
Working in virgin soil, it's full of surprises.
Jeff, love your content! Thanks for the time and hard work you put into your videos. Sam Van Lieshout from Hortonville, WI.
Mr Jeffy showin how it's done. As always 👍
Mr Jeff, “ going to be here for a long, long time “! Mrs PayDirt, hooray! Have a safe one out there Jeff, hope you have a sat phone, just in case!
WOW Jeff on 3 wheels at times almost 2 ! Great video be safe! Thanks
once again excellent camera placement, nothing like watchin a big yellow CAT come by. I bet Mr Griffy is missing you and is waiting at the gate (post) 😀
Beautiful. One could say this is poetic. Jeff, you're an artíste. It's good to be conscientious.
The Man, The Machine, The Dirt Mover, The Legend. Great Video Jeff. From Newfoundland 🇨🇦😁
It's says in the Holy Bible the hills will lowered and the Valleys will be filled
Before the glory of the lord
Just keep cutting it to tow your three to one down and inch over to make your slope longer than when it gets longer you can get on your slope things drag your slope on out
I'm enjoying the adventure that you are on. Excellent video As uaual Jeff. Thank you.
Hello Jeff. Henry Wilson here. It's a really interesting job you are doing there. No doubt you will have a good eye for that job.
You are the Ben Cartrite of heavy equipment. Love the Bonanza theme.
Your office view is beautiful! People pay a lot of money for that view everyday!
Three points of contact should be enough, right Griffy ?
Lol!
Awesome landscape! Nice scraper 'show'. 😄
Beautiful looking country. Now that’s an office
The old LT Westinghouse C Pull or low bowl C Pull you could cut a 2 to 1 if you knew what your doing
You did well to get that far without hitting any big goolies.
Jeff how much fuel does the scraper suck down for an 8 hr. day ?
You don’t see a double engine scraper stop dead in it’s tracks every day. I’ve never seen it!
Takes a real man to own/operate/maintain an old junker like that. I wish I was 1/2 the man old jay is.
When you said you were going to have to get the D9 in another way, I was thinking air drop!!
This brings back memories! damn you’re a hell of an operator!
That material is a little like caliche in the southwest, but I think it is a volcanic tuft. Yeah on most jobs the grader is working the slopes as the scrapers are cutting it down. How many yds do you have to move? I guess that is hard to say since you need to move it 3 times. LOL Well except the tuft.
Beautiful country. Hello from San Antonio, TEXAS by the way.
Long tuff haul In and out for your iron. I feel for Kenny, jeep and trailer. Oh and I guess that old truck driver also. You earn your peanuts on projects out in the boonies,
but it’s beautiful. Wish I could help ya. I don’t suppose there isn’t a 4 legged zone open up there this time of year. Only the experienced take on a project like this one. I’m jealous of your work environment!!!
It looks like you will have a solid enough base to land C-17's when your done. 8-)
Time to get a bang bang license and pop them there annoying inclusions That would sure wake that pretty little valley up. Good to hear you did not do yourself a serious injury with the sudden stop Especially where the serious injury may have occurred
God I love to hear and watch her eat!; ♥️♥️♥️♥️
The next episode should be awesome!
I can play this bonanza song and you are now my friend
could you load your 637 with the 336 ?
Needs more rusty iron.
Rusty iron ain't scared of anything.
Magnets!
Rarely heard axle slack thud at 2:55
I was surprised to see that other truck running down the dirt road in the background
Jedd: How do you synchronize the engines in that machine?
Are you licensed to use dynamite to bust the big rocks?
I have a picture in my head of that concrete truck driver from your last video, parked just off camera and shaking his head when you got that wheel in the air @2:15 . He'd have been saying you were insane, but with balls of steel.
If that was a company truck you gotta wonder just what the boss would be thinking if he saw that video. I'm betting that somebody probably brought it to his attention!
Kicking ass and taking names. Looks good #JPayDirt.
Old flat landed sitting here drinking coffee at 1100 ft. elevation waiting for a suppository to work (no s#it) and totally amazed by JPay. Oops. Gotta run . . .
I hope everything comes out aright?😂
モーターもカッコいいけど、景色も凄くイイ 😊
Loved the stunt driving!
Great video
Hell you got d 9 with ripper need some help I love run a blade
Time to bring in the big guns. 💣
that 637C was earning its money on that job hey jeff how much fuel does that scraper use in 8 hours ?
I don't understand what a 3 in 1 grade is. I know grade percentages as in 3% or 3' per hundred rise ( or lower) Could some one explain please.
For a 3 to 1 the slope has on foot of fall out 3 feet. Every 3 feet walking down the slope you go down 1 foot and I forget the slope percent it been a few years
33 1/3 is the percentage
I just noticed that this 637 does not have the "hook" on the front end.
Lead unit only. Not sure why.
Watch the Jpaydirt scraper history vid, it's a non-push/pull unit with a push/pull end stinger added. The other two 637's are full push/pull units.
I seen a 657 lose the floor out of the scraper with a Little Rock like that it tore the whole floor out of just like slicing cheese
Need your Dad's old self-loading pride and joy scraper!😉😳🤣😂😅
Love the scenery
Right on
Give the rear wheels the opportunity and positioning
You need serated cutting edges in that s-----stuff
I cut 3 to 1 slopes all the time with my dirt buckets.
Quick question. Why are y’all still using grade stakes when GPS blade control takes all the guesswork out of it. It’s accurate, precise and saves a massive amount of time. All I do is Ag work and the design software is a little different than commercial construction design software but the principal is the same.
by the time you set up your gps I've already cut it and left☻ why don't I use it? because it's to much money for how many times I'd use it, would I use it if I had it? hell yes. but for me it would never pay for itself
@@Jpaydirtit really doesn't take long to set one up.
great reason to wear that little lap belt
Put some Bondo and silver paint on that D-9 blade, yer looking like a D-9 slum lord. 😂😂😂😎
Beautiful country.
Laser level eyeballs . . . . after years, after decades. "I'll get it......"
I just love the Big Iron Just the fuel and a place to park them scrapers cost $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
The owner of our company says it costs 2k a day when I scraper sits. That's just crazy to me.
As Mr TD24 said "making ice cream outta horse poop"
That's impressive.
I didnt know the rock did it I thought you might be showing off😜
rock clause!!!
Looks like you digging in the washout pile at a concrete plant. Not quite solid but it all sucks. Guess you gotta look toward the horizon and appreciate the view!
Looks like you need the rain
JPAYDIRT👍
The old Man I worked for If he seen you slip the tires you are Fired and I can see why I bet just a tire cost A plenty
I've often thought in circumstances like these how handy something like a big old Single shank Kelly ripper from the 70's would be, mounted on the pusher block of a big scraper. You'd obviously have plenty of horsepower (600 or 700 hp) to rip but would need to watch wheelspin or shredded tires would happen but with a careful operator I reckon you could make it worthwhile, all without a big dozer present - just a thought🤔
Holy “S” Batman @ approx., the 2:50min., mark I thot the 637 was going over...!
Beautiful background views...
Is that a government or privet job?
Private, if it was government job there would be six people with brand new hard hats, & brand new boots. All on their on there cell phones & each making 100 grand a year.
@@Utah_Mike I don't know. His BLM jobs you never see all the inspectors...
👍👍
You know that if you gas the rear motor when the front is 90* to the left or right, ya can turn around faster.(;>) Also, stay out of 4th and 7th gear, they tend to bounce a tad.(;>)...................Seriously though, I have to admit that I'm getting addicted to this channel.(:>)
You nearly got hoist on yer PETARD...! Lol
Slope board doser hands put it on the money
Carry on
💪👍👌 AWESOME🥃 to have spent the time in your WORLD tonight! "Reminds me of the 60's when you pour the fuel to them CAT"S and the SOOT rolls out the STACKS 🔥👍🤙 🤭🤭🤭🤪🤪 Getting that 9 up there sounds to be the ONLY ANSWER! THEN " THE ROCKS WILL ROLL / THE EARTH WILL MOVE" THANKS JEFF - BE SAFE 😍😍😍😍😍🙏
watch out for the hard spots, and judging by the intro, you should wear a helmet when working on the iron. Liked
D Model 31 or 37 was a lot better machine for cutting slopes
You can tell that scraper is really straining to cut that dirt.
Material consistency varies
Rocky horror show 😬🧨🧨🧨😀
I hope that wasn't a quote job Jeff !!!
Okay so make a deep cut! Then put one side in cut , other on original grade. That cants the scraper to make the slope! So each time cut the slope, have to cut in the cut, then repeat cut angle of slope to get the degree/ angle and width of the slope? Kinda-sorrta- maybe?
Cat goes meow?
Dirt Sharks
For Pete's sake Jeff, do something about that hole in your dozer blade face, it looks nasty!!
what will the world do when the knowledge of j-pay is lost,
Don"t tump that thing over man.