Buu is one consistent entity. He has several forms, but they're all the same Buu. The different Shredders are all completely different entities. One's an alien, one's a demon. One's a human. They all just go by the same name.
There are two shredders the first is the original who allowed himself to be possessed by the demon and everybody knows that shredder. The second shredder is the Uhr shredder who use the original shredder‘s name for clout. He is the one we first meet, but the tango shredder is the one who is the original and the human.
@@notscullytv He did explain it, it just he talks so fast you have to play attention, he literally said Utrom Shedder copy the original shedder flow, he even mention original shedder was in 300 A.D. if you watch the first one, he said Utrom Shedder landed in around 1100, he mentions the timeline wouldn't add up if it was one Shedder, he even refer to the original Oroku Saki as human, again he just talk to fast for some to catch it, it also don't help I watch all this as a child so I still remember all of this info
Fat Buu, Super Buu, Evil Buu, and Kid Buu are all technically the same exact person, just with different people absorbed into them (Or none in Kid Buu's case) Utrom, Tengu, and 2012 Shredder are all completely different people Edit: Utrom Shredder had the benefit of being an Alien with access to hyper-advanced Alien technology and the ability to travel between Planets. Tengu Shredder was restricted to one planet, and was fucking around the entire time because he found causing suffering and chaos to be more fun than actually destroying everything, he straight up could have turned the whole planet into Hell at any point he wanted, he just didn't want his fun to end like... ever. He'd rather keep fighting than win
Basically Scru, OG Shredder is a Demon from Hell. He got sealed away, but his legend persisted. The Utrom Sherel (I don't know the spelling) leeched his name and legend and took the Shredder mantle for himself.
Tengu shredder started with the original human oroku saki fusing with the demon in the year 300. Utrom shredder touched down in japan in the year 1100 and stole the name to make it easier to build power.
BY THE WAY Tengu Shredder comes from the Season called "The Lost Episodes" this was a season that they had been making before 4kids wanted them to put the Turtles in the Future & an episode was axed because they deemed it too violent. They were going all out for this as a hardcore season & they only later got approval to air it while Fast Forward was on break.
Nah Scru, lowkey THIS was my favorite Shredder of the 2003 Series!!! But don't get it twisted, Tengu Shredder is NOT the same as Ch'rell the Utrom Shredder. Tengu Shredder was the first one but got sealed; then, Utrom Shredder came later, and inherited the human's name & appearances for fame.
1. You know you're evil when the genocidal egomaniac that was Ch'rell looks at yoir life story and says: "You know, I kinda rock with that". 2. The Tengu Shredder actually could have turned most if not the entire world into Hell right then and there, he just wanted to squeeze every ounce of suffering he could out of the population for entertainment. 3. The Tengu Shredder was only around for *1 season* He was so OP and vile that he basically *had* to be a one-off villain. 4. Tengu Shredder calling his old teammates "p@ssyless" when one of them is a *woman* is wild when you think about it 💀
I mean it's the same timeline. Tengu shredder was the OG and got sealed, Utrom Shredder was basically a fraud taking up the name and after he died Tengu shredder was resurrected
Utrom Shredder has a bigger rap sheet, hut he didn't kill those millions with his own hands. He's just responsible for it. His stronest form doesn't even challenge base Demon Shredder in actual power. Let alone his giant dragon form. Demon Shredder doesn't outsource his violence. He goes hands on.
The Utrom Shredder still personally wiped out the entire *_universe_* followed by most of the *_multiverse_* before it was reversed. He didn’t outsource that, he did it himself.
There are two different Shredders. The one you’re watching is the actual Oroku Saki who made a deal with the demon called The Shredder and because its host back in 300 A.D. until he was sealed away. the Shredder from the previous video was Ch’rell who crash landed on earth 8 centuries after Saki was sealed away and impersonated him until the 21st century when he was defeated. The real Saki was then freed by his acolytes from being sealed in the 21st Century after Ch’rell’s banishment
If tengu shredder & Utrom shredder fought each other tengu shredder would definitely win, one has super strength, speed , regeneration, skill and magic ,while one is a tiny alien using advanced technology with strength, skill and speed. (Hell spawn vs tiny alien in super suit)
@@blackairforce5027 I know but he's probably not going to cover cyber shredder, but in my opinion every shredder in 2003 is better than all the shredder from any other tmnt series.
So, Oroku Saki becomes Demon Shredder, Demon Shredder got sealed, Utrom Shredder stole his identity, Utrom had the name for around 1500 years, Utrom got killed, Demon Shredder got released shortly afterwards.
Tengu ARE demons... but that aint what a tengu is traditionally supposed to be. Tengu are usually big nosed crow demons. So my guess is the creators for this looked up names for japanese demons and chose tengu cause it sounded cool
Ok,so a little reminder,ch'rell events started around the 11th century,while tengu/demon shredder events extend all the way back to the 3rd century,after ch'rell made the utrom ship crash on earth,he learned about humans,martial arts and the story of the shredder and then decided to use his identity to strike fear into anyone who might think of opposing him,so no,these two shredders are not the same person and what happened is essentially,ch'rell came in 800 years after the demon shredder was sealed,and then after he learned about the story of demon shredder decided to commit identity theft,and then the return of the demon shredder happens a while after ch'rell got exiled
The reason way each of these Shredders are getting there own seat is because there technically three different characters or three different variance of the same character Meanwhile Majin Buu had several different forms but in the end was still only one character.
time line check! Utrom shredder happens after Tengu shredder about 700 years difference between the both of them. But the show places Utrom first then Tengu instead of Tengu the Utrom. It clears out Krang but brings back a main enemy.
300s, Oroku Saki is a warrior who became one with the demon Shredder, anf Tengu Shredder rises and falls. 1100s, Utrom Ch'Rell comes to earth, reading up on history and legends, takes the name and mantle of Oroku Saki, the Shredder. 2000s, Utrom Shredder gets defeated and exiled, Karai takes his role as the leader of foot and new Shredder, and Tengu Shredder resurrects shortly after
Quick recap: The kaiju that is the TENGU DEMON is known as as “The Shredder” but the OG Oroku Saki (2003) is seduced by greed and power, causing him to be a host and become one with the demon to become the REAL SHREDDER to the 2003 universe. Due to him getting demon powers, the gods gotta seal his ass away. Around that time, Ch’rell; the Utrom, caught wind of Oroku Saki/OG Shredder (2003) and stole his identity for himself and be The Shredder, an IMPOSTER (Utrom) SHREDDER. He became the one that the audience saw at the beginning of the show that we’re used too because of the familiar armor. So it’s a matter of “wait, we’ve been following the WRONG Shredder the WHOLE TIME?!” Type of deal.
Buu went through crashout transformations. (Fat Buu) Menace trying to have a good time. (Super Buu) Menace to society just wanna mess with people. (Kid Buu) Menace to life itself, if you live and breathe he is yo opp even in the afterlife 💀
So basically scru demon shredder is the OG shredder until he got sealed thats when ultrom arrived and copied the demon shredder's whole flow to gain influence, money, clout etc etc great vid btw
2003 TMNT went on for 7 seasons. The first 4 pretty much dealt with the shredder that you know as well as some other stuff like the Triceratons, those monsters in the cave, etc. season 5 was with this Demon Shredder and the mystics arts stuff. Season 6 was Fast Forward where the turtles get yeeted into the future. Season 7 was Back To The Sewers where they came back to their time but we’re dealing with a “Cyber Shredder” in Cyber space.
There's a reason that tengu-shredders season was called "The Lost Episodes". As a side-note utrom-shredder kicked all kinds of ass with reproductions of outdated Utrom tech occasionaly mixed with dimension x/triceraton tech, who else thinks he could have gave tengu-shredder a run for his money with modern utrom tech.
Tengu Shredder was first, but got sealed. Utrom Shredder came along, stole his flow, word for word, bar for bar, but ended up dying. Tengu was freed after Utrom was defeated, leading to this.
I mean, lets be honest, outside of MAYBE the 87 series*, the turtles have ALWAYS needed some bullsh*t to beat shredder. either someone jumping in to save them, or broke ass magic swords or whatever. in that regard, needing dragon forms is not really that far off brand. *you could probably make the argument for the 87 show as well, henchmen incompetence, faulty technology, etc. and to be fair, he glossed over or left out a LOT of stuff. it didn't play as bad as it seems here. this season was actually the darkest, most violent one. it was fucked. and to, the 87 series did something similar in the later seasons, with the turtle transforming into alternate forms, and this show handles that idea way better.
The 2003 series actually had multiple shredders. The Demon one was technically the first one. He possessed the OG guy. Then the Otrom shredder stole his mantle and impersonated him. When we start the series he was already the shredder for hundreds of years by that point. Then we had his daughter start being shredder and even a cyber shredder at some point. “The Shredder” is more of a mantle than a actual person, a mantle that multiple people have held (in the comics Raph even became the shredder). So thats why he deserves multiple seats over buu. Buu has different forms yes but thats all buu still.
I honestly didn't think he was going to put Tengu Shedder on the table because he was only a one season villain, his time was so short, he didn't do enough evil things for his season, and he was the final boss before the series end, the Turtle was at their most powerful, if you watch all the TMNT 2003 series than Tengu Shedder does made sense and remember this is a multiverse now, the multiverse start with 2003,at least Idk if they talk about multiverses prior and other new TMNT series made reference with different universes, I grew up on this series, I didn't watch the 1990 one where Shedder was just a human, watching this made me open to other series having different version of the Turtle, I can definitely said this version was my favorite I would say Tengu Shedder is more powerful but Ultrom Shedder being an alien and galactic terrorist was far eviler
Well I don’t think buu counts since all those other buus are his different forms but they all are still one person and these shredders CJ has talked about are their own person with the same name
Let me give you a timeline to clear things up 300 a.d tengu and human oroko sakie merge so oroko is a demon and They get sealed away 1100's the utroms crash land and ch'ell steals the identity of oroko sakie 2000's the whole utrom shredder thing happens and gets exiled Later on in the 2000's tengu shredder is revived
Basically there are 3 Segments to the '03 Series. The first, i think, 3 seasons were dedicated to Utrom Shredder (with the finale to him being in the 2009 crossover Turtles Forever which is where CJ pulled that how final exhibit from) but past that there are two more shredders because the series takes on a few changes. '03 had seasons dedicated to things called Fast Forward (takes place in the future and I believe is where Cyber Shredder appears first) and then its wrapped up in the twilight seasons with Back to The Sewer (if I remember correctly they go back to the present or something and that is where Tengu Shredder comes in, but I may be misremembering, it was a long time ago). Either way TMNT03 had a lot going on after Ch'Rell was sentenced to eternal exile, and the way the timeline of events work is probably that Tengu came first, then Ch'Rell, and then Cyber, but they just aren't shown in that order. (probably due to production reasons, or maybe they wanted it to be a big twist that Shredder is some sort of omni-temporal constant.)
Tengu happened after utrom shredder was exiled to the ice planet fast forward happened the next season after tengu and back to the sewers is where cyber shredder came in the only plot point from that season I remember haven’t seen it in years
@@K.A.P_ if I'm remembering correctly, this season was supposed to take place after the Utrom Shredder's defeat and before the "Fast Foward" seasons but because of how dark the season was, 4Kids refused to air it and it went straight to vhs/dvd and 4Kids skipped to "Fast Forward" because it was more lighthearted. After they finished with "Back to the Sewers" CW4Kids went back and aired the final season with the Tengu Shredder on their Saturday block calling it "The lost Episodes".
Ur not wrong utrom was definitely on one he was a intergalactic multiverse threat, my guess is they just wanted OG oroku saki in the story,I know utrom shredders inspired many new versions of shredders tho.
39:55 Nah man, Aku is LEAGUES pettier than this Tengu Shredder motherfucka. And you're right, Utrom Shredder is a way stronger member on the Table. Like Tengu took over Japan for a few years, big whoop. Ch'rell spent centuries actively beefing with the Utrom, biding his time til he could get a spaceship - and when the Turtles kept fucking with that plan, edging him on the verge of getting his getback, it pissed him off to the point of BEING OKAY WITH COSMIC ERASURE JUST TO KILL THEM NINJAS. The writers really wanted something to fill that Shredder sized hole, to the point where after the Turtles went to the future for a few seasons and came back, THEY RESURRECTED THE UTROM SHREDDER. AGAIN. VIA HIS DATA SELF HIJACKING AN AI AND BECOMING THE _CYBER SHREDDER._
Buu is consistently one character. Bro is basically just bubble gum ripped apart in those other versions. Cyber Shedder is a virus thats supposed to be a back up, Utrom Shredder is an alien impersonating Tengu Shredder like the video says, Tengu Shredder is a Demon, Then Human Shredder is just 100% real Shredder flesh.
10:50 I nearly lost my lunch from laughing when you asked if the Utrom is still in there. Lmfao.😂 I don't know where, when, nor how he is when the dragon popped up. Edit: 10:54 what is going on?! 😅 Where are the turtles?
The difference between the utrom shredder is that he an alien who stole the originals identity while The Tengu shredder is the real person how let a demon possess him
Okay i see where you got confused the tengu shredder is the original one grom many years ago in fedual japan and the utrom shedder is shrell the alien sonyeah they are two different shredder
More like not only is there a Krang that inpersonated Shredder, the real shredder was taken over by a demon! Also the U-tron version of Shredder is the weakest in their world, they're a throw away to set up the real issue and open the show to magic and shit.
Buu is one consistent entity. He has several forms, but they're all the same Buu. The different Shredders are all completely different entities. One's an alien, one's a demon. One's a human. They all just go by the same name.
Forgot the digital one
Thank you for saying this I was bout to get on scru head pause lol
Well cyber isn’t really different guy he just share same memory of utrom shredder basically a clone
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There are two shredders the first is the original who allowed himself to be possessed by the demon and everybody knows that shredder. The second shredder is the Uhr shredder who use the original shredder‘s name for clout. He is the one we first meet, but the tango shredder is the one who is the original and the human.
They’re actually more shredders, but those two seem to be the one cj talking about
CJ deffo could’ve explained it better cos first time watching his vid I thought oroko saki was the utrom shredder up until they sealed him and shit.
@@notscullytv He did explain it, it just he talks so fast you have to play attention, he literally said Utrom Shedder copy the original shedder flow, he even mention original shedder was in 300 A.D. if you watch the first one, he said Utrom Shedder landed in around 1100, he mentions the timeline wouldn't add up if it was one Shedder, he even refer to the original Oroku Saki as human, again he just talk to fast for some to catch it, it also don't help I watch all this as a child so I still remember all of this info
Fat Buu, Super Buu, Evil Buu, and Kid Buu are all technically the same exact person, just with different people absorbed into them (Or none in Kid Buu's case)
Utrom, Tengu, and 2012 Shredder are all completely different people
Edit: Utrom Shredder had the benefit of being an Alien with access to hyper-advanced Alien technology and the ability to travel between Planets. Tengu Shredder was restricted to one planet, and was fucking around the entire time because he found causing suffering and chaos to be more fun than actually destroying everything, he straight up could have turned the whole planet into Hell at any point he wanted, he just didn't want his fun to end like... ever. He'd rather keep fighting than win
Basically Scru, OG Shredder is a Demon from Hell. He got sealed away, but his legend persisted. The Utrom Sherel (I don't know the spelling) leeched his name and legend and took the Shredder mantle for himself.
Tengu shredder started with the original human oroku saki fusing with the demon in the year 300. Utrom shredder touched down in japan in the year 1100 and stole the name to make it easier to build power.
Thank you, bro wasn't paying attention the whole damn time
I don’t know if you find out later in the vid, but the utrom shredder took the identity of tengu shredder, so they’re two different people
BY THE WAY Tengu Shredder comes from the Season called "The Lost Episodes" this was a season that they had been making before 4kids wanted them to put the Turtles in the Future & an episode was axed because they deemed it too violent. They were going all out for this as a hardcore season & they only later got approval to air it while Fast Forward was on break.
Nah Scru, lowkey THIS was my favorite Shredder of the 2003 Series!!! But don't get it twisted, Tengu Shredder is NOT the same as Ch'rell the Utrom Shredder. Tengu Shredder was the first one but got sealed; then, Utrom Shredder came later, and inherited the human's name & appearances for fame.
1. You know you're evil when the genocidal egomaniac that was Ch'rell looks at yoir life story and says: "You know, I kinda rock with that".
2. The Tengu Shredder actually could have turned most if not the entire world into Hell right then and there, he just wanted to squeeze every ounce of suffering he could out of the population for entertainment.
3. The Tengu Shredder was only around for *1 season*
He was so OP and vile that he basically *had* to be a one-off villain.
4. Tengu Shredder calling his old teammates "p@ssyless" when one of them is a *woman* is wild when you think about it 💀
When Tengu shredder died utrom shredder stole his identity to get respect until his death and Tengu shredders Resurrection
I mean it's the same timeline. Tengu shredder was the OG and got sealed, Utrom Shredder was basically a fraud taking up the name and after he died Tengu shredder was resurrected
33:25 Scru the show is called TEENAGE. MUTANT. NINJA. TURTLES. this shit never made sense from fuckin begining.
Come on bruh its not hard, Tengu shreddies was the first krang shreddies was second krang used the name for clout
Utrom Shredder has a bigger rap sheet, hut he didn't kill those millions with his own hands. He's just responsible for it. His stronest form doesn't even challenge base Demon Shredder in actual power. Let alone his giant dragon form. Demon Shredder doesn't outsource his violence. He goes hands on.
The Utrom Shredder still personally wiped out the entire *_universe_* followed by most of the *_multiverse_* before it was reversed. He didn’t outsource that, he did it himself.
There are two different Shredders. The one you’re watching is the actual Oroku Saki who made a deal with the demon called The Shredder and because its host back in 300 A.D. until he was sealed away.
the Shredder from the previous video was Ch’rell who crash landed on earth 8 centuries after Saki was sealed away and impersonated him until the 21st century when he was defeated.
The real Saki was then freed by his acolytes from being sealed in the 21st Century after Ch’rell’s banishment
If tengu shredder & Utrom shredder fought each other tengu shredder would definitely win, one has super strength, speed , regeneration, skill and magic ,while one is a tiny alien using advanced technology with strength, skill and speed. (Hell spawn vs tiny alien in super suit)
They fought in the show along with cyber shredder
@@blackairforce5027 I know but he's probably not going to cover cyber shredder, but in my opinion every shredder in 2003 is better than all the shredder from any other tmnt series.
@@demarriuspoe282 hell 2003 had the best shredder
So, Oroku Saki becomes Demon Shredder, Demon Shredder got sealed, Utrom Shredder stole his identity, Utrom had the name for around 1500 years, Utrom got killed, Demon Shredder got released shortly afterwards.
Tengu ARE demons... but that aint what a tengu is traditionally supposed to be. Tengu are usually big nosed crow demons. So my guess is the creators for this looked up names for japanese demons and chose tengu cause it sounded cool
Ok,so a little reminder,ch'rell events started around the 11th century,while tengu/demon shredder events extend all the way back to the 3rd century,after ch'rell made the utrom ship crash on earth,he learned about humans,martial arts and the story of the shredder and then decided to use his identity to strike fear into anyone who might think of opposing him,so no,these two shredders are not the same person and what happened is essentially,ch'rell came in 800 years after the demon shredder was sealed,and then after he learned about the story of demon shredder decided to commit identity theft,and then the return of the demon shredder happens a while after ch'rell got exiled
The reason way each of these Shredders are getting there own seat is because there technically three different characters or three different variance of the same character
Meanwhile Majin Buu had several different forms but in the end was still only one character.
time line check! Utrom shredder happens after Tengu shredder about 700 years difference between the both of them. But the show places Utrom first then Tengu instead of Tengu the Utrom. It clears out Krang but brings back a main enemy.
Bro was quick asf😂
I was within 2 hours 😂
Demon Shredder/Oroku is the OG Shredder that everyone knows -- 2nd Shredder was an alien that clout chased the name and look.
The last Shredder is MY childhood Shredder, I can't wait
Tengu shredder is much more powerful than ultrom meanwhile ultrom was more vicious... its like comparing kid buu to buuhan basically.
“Boneless Special beam cannon” 😂😂😂😭😭😭😭😭😭😭 why your brain work like that lmaooooooooo
300s, Oroku Saki is a warrior who became one with the demon Shredder, anf Tengu Shredder rises and falls.
1100s, Utrom Ch'Rell comes to earth, reading up on history and legends, takes the name and mantle of Oroku Saki, the Shredder.
2000s, Utrom Shredder gets defeated and exiled, Karai takes his role as the leader of foot and new Shredder, and Tengu Shredder resurrects shortly after
Quick recap:
The kaiju that is the TENGU DEMON is known as as “The Shredder” but the OG Oroku Saki (2003) is seduced by greed and power, causing him to be a host and become one with the demon to become the REAL SHREDDER to the 2003 universe. Due to him getting demon powers, the gods gotta seal his ass away.
Around that time, Ch’rell; the Utrom, caught wind of Oroku Saki/OG Shredder (2003) and stole his identity for himself and be The Shredder, an IMPOSTER (Utrom) SHREDDER. He became the one that the audience saw at the beginning of the show that we’re used too because of the familiar armor.
So it’s a matter of “wait, we’ve been following the WRONG Shredder the WHOLE TIME?!” Type of deal.
The fact that a alien parading around a fake body makes more sense than a revived shredder is CRAZY
The Tengu Shredder was a season of lost episodes.
Bro watch "db's 22nd world tournament clears your favorite arc" it's zephire's video as well it's fire
Demon King Shredder is from a time before nations, Utrom Shredder used the urban legend of Demon Shredder to scare enemies.
Buu went through crashout transformations. (Fat Buu) Menace trying to have a good time. (Super Buu) Menace to society just wanna mess with people. (Kid Buu) Menace to life itself, if you live and breathe he is yo opp even in the afterlife 💀
16:04 demon shredder existed 700 years before the utrom shredder stole his identity.
So basically scru demon shredder is the OG shredder until he got sealed thats when ultrom arrived and copied the demon shredder's whole flow to gain influence, money, clout etc etc great vid btw
2003 TMNT went on for 7 seasons. The first 4 pretty much dealt with the shredder that you know as well as some other stuff like the Triceratons, those monsters in the cave, etc. season 5 was with this Demon Shredder and the mystics arts stuff. Season 6 was Fast Forward where the turtles get yeeted into the future. Season 7 was Back To The Sewers where they came back to their time but we’re dealing with a “Cyber Shredder” in Cyber space.
34:17 And that why I said TMNT even though it ain’t flawless it’s the best series of the entire Franchise
I hope CJ uses the Meet the Graham's beat fir the next Shredder trial
There's a reason that tengu-shredders season was called "The Lost Episodes". As a side-note utrom-shredder kicked all kinds of ass with reproductions of outdated Utrom tech occasionaly mixed with dimension x/triceraton tech, who else thinks he could have gave tengu-shredder a run for his money with modern utrom tech.
Dan bull dropped a song called slime shady and you didn't react to it yet?
Tengu Shredder was first, but got sealed. Utrom Shredder came along, stole his flow, word for word, bar for bar, but ended up dying. Tengu was freed after Utrom was defeated, leading to this.
I mean, lets be honest, outside of MAYBE the 87 series*, the turtles have ALWAYS needed some bullsh*t to beat shredder. either someone jumping in to save them, or broke ass magic swords or whatever. in that regard, needing dragon forms is not really that far off brand.
*you could probably make the argument for the 87 show as well, henchmen incompetence, faulty technology, etc.
and to be fair, he glossed over or left out a LOT of stuff. it didn't play as bad as it seems here. this season was actually the darkest, most violent one. it was fucked. and to, the 87 series did something similar in the later seasons, with the turtle transforming into alternate forms, and this show handles that idea way better.
Easy mode with the hozz? Where do I sign🤣🤣
Ngl scru should start streaming
The 2003 series actually had multiple shredders. The Demon one was technically the first one. He possessed the OG guy. Then the Otrom shredder stole his mantle and impersonated him. When we start the series he was already the shredder for hundreds of years by that point. Then we had his daughter start being shredder and even a cyber shredder at some point. “The Shredder” is more of a mantle than a actual person, a mantle that multiple people have held (in the comics Raph even became the shredder). So thats why he deserves multiple seats over buu. Buu has different forms yes but thats all buu still.
0:05 WHAT THE FCK I TOLD YA SCRU ..COME ONN NOW BRUH😭😭💀💀🤣
Scru their isn’t just Teo in this series eventually their is three!!!!! And funny thing is they end up in a triple threat match to see who’s truly HIM
hell yeah! thank you Scru!
Man you have to see the new Dan bull song it is so good
A boneless special beam
cannon is crazy 😂😂😂
Boneless Special Beam Cannon is wild 🤣
Next time it will be my favorite Shredder! 😱🔥💕
I honestly didn't think he was going to put Tengu Shedder on the table because he was only a one season villain, his time was so short, he didn't do enough evil things for his season, and he was the final boss before the series end, the Turtle was at their most powerful, if you watch all the TMNT 2003 series than Tengu Shedder does made sense and remember this is a multiverse now, the multiverse start with 2003,at least Idk if they talk about multiverses prior and other new TMNT series made reference with different universes, I grew up on this series, I didn't watch the 1990 one where Shedder was just a human, watching this made me open to other series having different version of the Turtle, I can definitely said this version was my favorite
I would say Tengu Shedder is more powerful but Ultrom Shedder being an alien and galactic terrorist was far eviler
Well I don’t think buu counts since all those other buus are his different forms but they all are still one person and these shredders CJ has talked about are their own person with the same name
Evil buu ate pink buu and turned into super buu lmao. They are all the same person scru😅
I was 5 when Avatar aired and i can confirm at 25 it's still amazing
That's the 2003 series that lasted 7 seasons until 2009.
Scru u need to become a voice after after the way u said his name 😂
Let me give you a timeline to clear things up
300 a.d tengu and human oroko sakie merge so oroko is a demon and
They get sealed away
1100's the utroms crash land and ch'ell steals the identity of oroko sakie
2000's the whole utrom shredder thing happens and gets exiled
Later on in the 2000's tengu shredder is revived
23:43 I literally just said Shang tsung like 4 minutes ago😂😂😂
Buu just have different forms but they’re all still him. These are different people so different Shredders
3:16 7 seasons and a movie if I remember correctly
Basically there are 3 Segments to the '03 Series. The first, i think, 3 seasons were dedicated to Utrom Shredder (with the finale to him being in the 2009 crossover Turtles Forever which is where CJ pulled that how final exhibit from) but past that there are two more shredders because the series takes on a few changes. '03 had seasons dedicated to things called Fast Forward (takes place in the future and I believe is where Cyber Shredder appears first) and then its wrapped up in the twilight seasons with Back to The Sewer (if I remember correctly they go back to the present or something and that is where Tengu Shredder comes in, but I may be misremembering, it was a long time ago). Either way TMNT03 had a lot going on after Ch'Rell was sentenced to eternal exile, and the way the timeline of events work is probably that Tengu came first, then Ch'Rell, and then Cyber, but they just aren't shown in that order. (probably due to production reasons, or maybe they wanted it to be a big twist that Shredder is some sort of omni-temporal constant.)
Tengu happened after utrom shredder was exiled to the ice planet fast forward happened the next season after tengu and back to the sewers is where cyber shredder came in the only plot point from that season I remember haven’t seen it in years
@@K.A.P_ if I'm remembering correctly, this season was supposed to take place after the Utrom Shredder's defeat and before the "Fast Foward" seasons but because of how dark the season was, 4Kids refused to air it and it went straight to vhs/dvd and 4Kids skipped to "Fast Forward" because it was more lighthearted. After they finished with "Back to the Sewers" CW4Kids went back and aired the final season with the Tengu Shredder on their Saturday block calling it "The lost Episodes".
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Ur not wrong utrom was definitely on one he was a intergalactic multiverse threat, my guess is they just wanted OG oroku saki in the story,I know utrom shredders inspired many new versions of shredders tho.
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39:55 Nah man, Aku is LEAGUES pettier than this Tengu Shredder motherfucka. And you're right, Utrom Shredder is a way stronger member on the Table. Like Tengu took over Japan for a few years, big whoop. Ch'rell spent centuries actively beefing with the Utrom, biding his time til he could get a spaceship - and when the Turtles kept fucking with that plan, edging him on the verge of getting his getback, it pissed him off to the point of BEING OKAY WITH COSMIC ERASURE JUST TO KILL THEM NINJAS.
The writers really wanted something to fill that Shredder sized hole, to the point where after the Turtles went to the future for a few seasons and came back, THEY RESURRECTED THE UTROM SHREDDER. AGAIN. VIA HIS DATA SELF HIJACKING AN AI AND BECOMING THE _CYBER SHREDDER._
Buu is consistently one character. Bro is basically just bubble gum ripped apart in those other versions. Cyber Shedder is a virus thats supposed to be a back up, Utrom Shredder is an alien impersonating Tengu Shredder like the video says, Tengu Shredder is a Demon, Then Human Shredder is just 100% real Shredder flesh.
My well-informed citizen said a boneless special beam cannon LOL
It ran for seven seasons, plus a movie
The tengu an Utrom Shredder are 2 completely different entities and was messed up utrom made a Cyber Shredder Clone
I mean tbf, TMNT were toys first, they just needed movies and series to sell the toys
10:50 I nearly lost my lunch from laughing when you asked if the Utrom is still in there. Lmfao.😂 I don't know where, when, nor how he is when the dragon popped up.
Edit: 10:54 what is going on?! 😅 Where are the turtles?
The difference between the utrom shredder is that he an alien who stole the originals identity while The Tengu shredder is the real person how let a demon possess him
Honestly, Aku could probably make it onto this table.
1:02 buy was one person each of these shredder are they’re own individual person that happen to share a name and likeness
Ultron was waaaaaay worse.
Wonder if he is gonna address the shredder who layed hands on batman
I agree with Scru, the Utrom shredder WAY worse and when did the story get so wild? (I don't remember at all Tengo Shredder)
This is the season 4Kids didn't want to air. They skipped this one and went to Fast Forward.
Okay i see where you got confused the tengu shredder is the original one grom many years ago in fedual japan and the utrom shedder is shrell the alien sonyeah they are two different shredder
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33:56 to be honest I agree with you on this don't get me wrong teenage mutant Ninja turtles are still lit but this was pretty dumb😂
No it separated shredder and separated demon and alien storyline
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Boneless special beam cannon 😂
3:36 exactly they based off of Ninja turtles
You got confused early on man man, theyre different shredders. Utrom shredder PRETENDED to be Tengu Shredder.
39:42 I agree he’s not really like that fr last shredder dead ass was like I’ll erase this whole series including me
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More like not only is there a Krang that inpersonated Shredder, the real shredder was taken over by a demon! Also the U-tron version of Shredder is the weakest in their world, they're a throw away to set up the real issue and open the show to magic and shit.
300ad vs 1300 Japan isn't a hard concept to understand my guy lol.
This shredder or alucard from hellsing ultimate abridged
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NGL, that's the dumbest version of the turtles I have ever seen.
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