If you have good eyesight you can focus on the suppressor endcap and then focus your eyes on the Bore and it should line up like a peep sight on a gun. You just need to shine a light from breech to muzzle. The eye is actually very precise when it comes to bore alignment.
These bore rods are great for checking the barrel integrity as well. When i joined up Army back in 86 my 1st shots with M16A1 had a bent barrel so i wasn't hitting target no matter how well i aimed, the Drill Instructor didn't like my shooting to say the least lmfao 😄 I insisted something gotta be wrong with this here rifle Drill Sargent so he sends me down to the armorer technician truck and the guy slides a rod in the barrel and I'll be dipped the barrel literally warped to an extreme amount... I ask the guy "Why is my barrel so badly warped???" He says sometimes you got these recruits that'll set the barrel up against the wall and kick it really hard as a prank before they leave basic training. I said to the armorer maybe the barrels of all the rifles should be inspected for this before they're issued to new recruits , he agreed and said he will have a good word with his colleague at my units armory.
If "SureFire Bore Rods" are "manufactured by Geissele Automatics" as this video description claims, then why are SureFire Bore Rods and Geissele Automatics Suppressor Alignment Tools marketed and sold separately?
This is a common practice in the firearms industry (and lots of other industries). A good example would be Choate rifle stocks. Choate has been providing synthetic stocks to Savage, Thompson-Center and many others for years and putting the company's name, logo, badge, or whatever on them. If you buy the same stock aftermarket from Choate it has Choate's name on it instead. People will argue you until they are blue in the face about their stock being a "factory" stock without understanding the reality that it comes from a supplier. So, you can buy your bore rods from Surefire or you can buy them from Geissele. You will be getting the same level of quality since it is, in fact, the same product.
The alignment is determined by the threads on the barrel being concentric to the bore. If they are not, you need to contact the company that manufactured the upper or barrel. Perhaps if you wanted to check this before buying a suppressor, you could take your upper to a class 3 dealer that is willing to let you test fit and bore rod a suppressor.
Go buy a $5 piece of rod from the hardware store, cut it to 18" or so. Roll it on a flat surface to check that it's not bent. Same way you do with a pool cue... Wrap some tape around it at one far end, then about 7-10" up from there with the same exact length of tape. Tape just enough to make it tight to the point where it doesn't wiggle, but you don't have to force it into the barrel, then with the taped section in the barrel check just as he did for central location of bore. If it's close to one side, turn the rod 180 degrees to verify it didn't turn to the opposing edge of the suppressor. If you turn it 180 degrees and its still close to the same side that it was before, you're going to experience a baffle strike if you fire it. You're welcome.
@@YukarisGearReviews It worked, buy I've since found the manufacturer these people buy from and add insane markups to. I got 3 shipped for $14. One for 308, 5.56, and 22lr
Go buy a $5 piece of rod from the hardware store, cut it to 18" or so. Roll it on a flat surface to check that it's not bent. Same way you do with a pool cue... Wrap some tape around it at one far end, then about 7-10" up from there with the same exact length of tape. Tape just enough to make it tight to the point where it doesn't wiggle, but you don't have to force it into the barrel, then with the taped section in the barrel check just as he did for central location of bore. If it's close to one side, turn the rod 180 degrees to verify it didn't turn to the opposing edge of the suppressor. If you turn it 180 degrees and its still close to the same side that it was before, you're going to experience a baffle strike if you fire it. Updated: See my other comment... You're welcome! 💪🇺🇸
@@bigpatty823 Research. Mcmaster Carr tool steel rods. Bought one for 5.56, 308, 9mm, and 22lr, They're 3' long and were $40.32 shipped for all 4. I've used them multiple times and even discovered my hand threaded SAR1 AK happened to be centric. I've shot hundreds of rounds through suppressors in various guns since... You dont always have to get ripped off to play with big boy toys. But if that's you're thing 🤷♂️
If you have good eyesight you can focus on the suppressor endcap and then focus your eyes on the Bore and it should line up like a peep sight on a gun. You just need to shine a light from breech to muzzle. The eye is actually very precise when it comes to bore alignment.
These bore rods are great for checking the barrel integrity as well.
When i joined up Army back in 86 my 1st shots with M16A1 had a bent barrel so i wasn't hitting target no matter how well i aimed, the Drill Instructor didn't like my shooting to say the least lmfao 😄
I insisted something gotta be wrong with this here rifle Drill Sargent so he sends me down to the armorer technician truck and the guy slides a rod in the barrel and I'll be dipped the barrel literally warped to an extreme amount...
I ask the guy "Why is my barrel so badly warped???"
He says sometimes you got these recruits that'll set the barrel up against the wall and kick it really hard as a prank before they leave basic training.
I said to the armorer maybe the barrels of all the rifles should be inspected for this before they're issued to new recruits , he agreed and said he will have a good word with his colleague at my units armory.
stop the cap
My DI would have told me a good rifleman would know how to compensate for a bent barrel
What do you do if the suppressor does not line up?
scream into the sky
Adjust muzzle device most likely the issue. Was it torqued to spec?
@@Slay_No_More 😂
If "SureFire Bore Rods" are "manufactured by Geissele Automatics" as this video description claims, then why are SureFire Bore Rods and Geissele Automatics Suppressor Alignment Tools marketed and sold separately?
Nicholas Johnson it's the same Geissle product
This is a common practice in the firearms industry (and lots of other industries). A good example would be Choate rifle stocks. Choate has been providing synthetic stocks to Savage, Thompson-Center and many others for years and putting the company's name, logo, badge, or whatever on them. If you buy the same stock aftermarket from Choate it has Choate's name on it instead. People will argue you until they are blue in the face about their stock being a "factory" stock without understanding the reality that it comes from a supplier. So, you can buy your bore rods from Surefire or you can buy them from Geissele. You will be getting the same level of quality since it is, in fact, the same product.
The real question is, why aren’t you buying your “geissele bore concentricity gauge” in the rod section of your steel supply.
@@undercovercop2000the secret Big Bore doesn't want you to know
Speer gold tips are the same as federal fusions. An Acura is a Honda. Capitalism is legal lies
How do you measure 1/3? Eye ball?
Does using the bore alignment tool have to be done everytime the suppressor is attached to the barrel adaptor?
Can't you use a cleaning rod?
Is there a way to do this check before ordering a suppressor?
The alignment is determined by the threads on the barrel being concentric to the bore. If they are not, you need to contact the company that manufactured the upper or barrel. Perhaps if you wanted to check this before buying a suppressor, you could take your upper to a class 3 dealer that is willing to let you test fit and bore rod a suppressor.
These rods are hard to find i been looking for 3 months now and i can not find any i need one for my rc2 556 and the mini along with the rc2 762
Dude they are all over eBay. Not to mention Geissele, surefire, accuracy solutions etc all make them
Looks like Travis Haley’s dad lmfao
The challenge here is that there are a lot of calibers. But relatively few rod sizes.
75 dollars for a rod...yeahhhhhh
Go buy a $5 piece of rod from the hardware store, cut it to 18" or so. Roll it on a flat surface to check that it's not bent. Same way you do with a pool cue...
Wrap some tape around it at one far end, then about 7-10" up from there with the same exact length of tape. Tape just enough to make it tight to the point where it doesn't wiggle, but you don't have to force it into the barrel, then with the taped section in the barrel check just as he did for central location of bore.
If it's close to one side, turn the rod 180 degrees to verify it didn't turn to the opposing edge of the suppressor. If you turn it 180 degrees and its still close to the same side that it was before, you're going to experience a baffle strike if you fire it. You're welcome.
@@2S1L3NT this is a terrible fucking idea, don't do it. These cheap rods are usually not quite straight.
@@YukarisGearReviews It worked, buy I've since found the manufacturer these people buy from and add insane markups to. I got 3 shipped for $14. One for 308, 5.56, and 22lr
@@2S1L3NTyou got a 5.56 and a 22lr? That’s interesting. They are the same caliber.
SureFire Baffle Strike = Yea your Screwed
DeadAirBaffle Strike= WE GOT YOU
Go buy a $5 piece of rod from the hardware store, cut it to 18" or so. Roll it on a flat surface to check that it's not bent. Same way you do with a pool cue...
Wrap some tape around it at one far end, then about 7-10" up from there with the same exact length of tape. Tape just enough to make it tight to the point where it doesn't wiggle, but you don't have to force it into the barrel, then with the taped section in the barrel check just as he did for central location of bore.
If it's close to one side, turn the rod 180 degrees to verify it didn't turn to the opposing edge of the suppressor. If you turn it 180 degrees and its still close to the same side that it was before, you're going to experience a baffle strike if you fire it.
Updated: See my other comment...
You're welcome! 💪🇺🇸
The rod may straight but the surface you roll it may not be. That’s why you buy the specific tool for the job.
@@CaptainCreampie69 NO NO BUY A $5 ROD DONT SUREFIRE
Or I could just buy a $75 Rod that is going to be used over several $1000+ devices
@@bigpatty823 Research.
Mcmaster Carr tool steel rods.
Bought one for 5.56, 308, 9mm, and 22lr, They're 3' long and were $40.32 shipped for all 4.
I've used them multiple times and even discovered my hand threaded SAR1 AK happened to be centric. I've shot hundreds of rounds through suppressors in various guns since...
You dont always have to get ripped off to play with big boy toys. But if that's you're thing 🤷♂️
McMaster Carr
Tight tolerance oil hardening 01 tool steel rod: sizes.
(you're welcome!)
22lr = 0.2120"
223/5.56 = 0.2188"
9mm = 0.2969"
308 = 0.3438"
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Great tool, but ridiculously overpriced.