Yuri stole many things...but he can never steal my heart the way you have 🤩. Great video, well executed, lots of time and thoughtfulness went into something very personal. His videos are what they are, they’re just there. Your videos, they are at a level ONLY YOU can do for many reasons.
I faced a similar issue and I did not speak up. I'm glad you did because you've done it in a much more articulate way that I could have. Next time I feel like talking about plagiarism and inspiration, I'll send people over to this video. Thank you so much for posting.
I want to keep echoing what I've said before on your videos, you are an awesome source of inspiration, I'm sad to see someone thought you were a source for plagiarism. I see so many comments about how people picked up OP-1 because of your inspiring videos, and I'm just one of the lucky few to have done so as well. Sad you have to go through this, but believe me, there's no copy out there that is near as good at this, as you. I know that might not dampen the blow of someone plagiarizing you, but to me it speaks of the strength of what you do - you do with such quality that can only come from living your idea - not simply copying it. In short, I'm with ya 100% on this topic, well spoken!
Hey Jeremy! Been following you since the early days of your channel. Your OP-1 vids got me hooked but it’s your personality, creativity and wholesomeness that have kept me hanging around! It’s evident to me that your fans adore you and ya can’t plagiarise feels goods like thems!
You're a huge inspiration, Jeremy. Because of your videos I got myself an OP-1, learned so many things from your content and this year finally released my first own EP, that was mainly produced on the OP-1. Big thanks for all the inspiration and keep it up!
Exactly the type of mature measured response I would have expected from you. I encourage people not to downvote his videos - because that is still engagement - but if you right click on the video of you see it in the feed there’s an option to say “I’m not interested”.
Finally you made this video! Amazing! I love that you’ve done the research and you really managed to get this point across but still being really nice about it. You’re awsome
Jeremy, I'm a late 20-something former school-musician who regrets moving away from music discipline and has sworn up and down that I'd get started at making something for years. After I found your channel I was heavily inspired to just get f***ing started. Seeing your techniques and skill made me engage with music learning like I hadn't before. I'm still working on it - it's really hard when my rusty woodwind fingers are noodles on a keyboard and I'm tired from work, but I'm still working on it. I finally finished my first composition (that I'll never release)! I will fight tooth and nail for that desire to make music that resonates with how I feel. I just wanted to say, you inspire me. Thank you! Please don't be discouraged. I hope this experience ends up being something that enriches your experience and helps you endure in the future too. Thanks for being you. Keep up the good work.
I discovered you through your OP-1 videos. They allowed me to appreciate and enjoy a device that I could not afford, or justify the purchase of. But I stayed because of your charisma, talent and the feeling of positivity contained within your content.
Summary “All the things people that care about numbers do”. Hit the nail on the head with that. Also, i very much appreciate you taking a moment to talk about the things that surround this music business. I found it therapeutic and necessary so thanks g.
Thank you very much Jeremy. Both for your excellent body of work, and this careful dissertation on the present topic. Indeed this not only serves to be informative, but also presents your case well on this matter. Certainly in some cases the old adage of "imitation is the best form of flattery" may apply. However, it is apparent this is not the case with the current offender. I would agree, this stinks of plagiarism. It is a testament to your integrity to respond to it in this capacity.
I'm just a dude, playing a dude, making a video like another dude. Edited to add: I think one of the few exceptions for creative copying would be "memes", where often an idea gets posted, and then others piggy-back that idea taking further and to new places..
@@thomasgraham8 That I don't monetize and posted for fun. I even wrote the original uploader and told him to claim it. That's also a lot different than the subject here and not at all relevant to this discussion. Good try though!
I’m glad this is being addressed. My first reaction when I come across these channels is to venomously defend your honor. But the way you addressed this makes me understand that you are already aware of what’s happening.
You’re completely right, that is plagiarism. You’re channel has always had a sense of ingenuity & creativity. Just stand your ground, your followers are here for you. You actually inspire others to do their own thing, fuck that guy that’s just in it for the money. He’ll fade.
You took that plagarism, turned it back into inspiration and made this video, whilst sampling other makers videos, referencing others people's work and giving on the way. Masterful! 👌🏾
Whenever I feel down or struggle with creative block I just rewatch a vid or two of yours. Your success wasn't just OP-1 and a table - it's the talent, sense of humour, feeling for melody, raw skills, who you are as a person - no one will be able to copy that. Keep up the great work.
I'm extremely glad that this video came out, recently your videos have been helping me with all sorts of things like theory and making new sounds to put in my music, I was even considering saving up for an OP-1 just because it looks like a lot of fun. You have a distinct style and that other guy can grab hold of a big fat lawsuit if you really wanted him to. You are an inspiration to artists everywhere and even if I don't make the same type of music, it's helping me more than anything other than school to watch someone create a full track in such an organic way.
I saw one of his videos first and luckily I went to the comments to find out that it was completely derivative of your work. I came to your channel and never looked back
Same here, I stumbled on his Tropic Thunder video and ended up stumbling over here from the suggested videos, and I'm so happy I did (and I too never looked back).
Duuuuuuuuuude. You have addressed this like the boss we know you are. Thanks for being the man you are, J. Glad to have come to know you a bit through the wildness that is the internet.
You tend to come across as a nonconfrontational person in general, making this video that much more important. Awesome job making the case and addressing this head on.
As an artist myself this is something that's been on my mind for over 2 decades now. It's that internal struggle of being inspired by art, which is all around us everywhere, and wanting to execute your own version of something but knowing you need to make it your own. That is the most important step. We always said in art school, bad artists copy, good artists steal. What is the difference? When you steal something you take from someone else and make it your own. Jimmy Hendrix covering All Along the Watchtower. It's what you said exactly, fold it into your next project. Make it your own, there are still a lot of unique and interesting choices you can make after borrowing an idea. Once you start making all those choices, the thing art thing starts to become a different idea, still based on the inspiration, but slowly becoming different and personal. What this guy did was just straight rip off. He brought zero new ideas to the table. I would personally be embarrassed if you could tell where I borrowed from or I didn't reference the origin of the idea, that is, give credit where credit is due. Great video Jeremy.
Ace video Jeremy 👍 I find that when I try and copy someone it end's up sounding nothing like what I was trying to copy, so it is just inspiration to make some music in the end, it is just that something that got me started. If i feel my music sounds like a poor imitation of something I was obsessed with and trying to emulate I usually spend a bit of time listening to 70's dub reggae and 70's punk, this usually gets me out of my rut and makes me forget about what I was obsessed with, point being it could be 60's soul and heavy metal but it makes you move away from the constriction you thought you had. I find your music hugely inspirational but my music sounds nothing like yours at all, but you quite often give me the urge to turn on my gear and make some noise. Thanks 👍😎
Man I saw that video a while back and it actually pissed me off how blatantly he ripped you off. The worst part was helplessly reading the comments from people who had no idea it was a copy. Well spoken and level headed response.
This was a good watch. It really felt like you'd approached what was, in my opinion, an frustratingly common and almost unfixable problem with the intent to avoid unnecessary drama and instead raise an interesting discussion whilst still expressing your experience and issues with the systems of plagiarism. 15 minutes and 47 seconds well spent.
Love you Jeremy, I'm sorry you're having to go through this. Your work and creations are something that are beautiful, thoughtful, wholesome, and inspirational. No amount of creepy comodification could ever take that away. Keep pushing the boundaries of your style and making content for all us weirdos out here that just love hearing your fingers talk. Thank you.
Schools/universities should reference this. I've known many people who believed paraphrasing isn't plagiarism, while adding nothing of their own to the end product. If you're inspired by something, you should have enough respect for the creator to at least give them a call out. They'll likely be honored that they provided inspiration, and you won't have a shameful shadow hanging over your work.
I remember when I first came across that guy's videos and I commented that he was plagiarizing. I think you handled this really really well. And I think this video will help those who are earnestly looking for inspiration from crossing over to stealing.
You have inspired me both personally and musically. Please keep making the videos that you feel you need to make. Your honesty and humility are what keeps us clicking. PS: it was the Volca sample videos that brought me here. Your outlook is on what made me subscribe.
I personally got an OP-1 because of your videos. You and Cuckoo got me through a tough time in my life and got me back into believing I could create music again. thanks for that!
Depth can't be plagiarized, many of us look to your channel for the humanity because of it's lacking elsewhere. I'm glad you started this conversation. Your minions are many. We're happy you're here. Hopefully this teaches those without honor what it means.
Also, well done. I've seen the 'Record To Red' videos pop up in my recommended videos. I think I may have started watching one thinking it was yours. I didn't get to the end of it and have been more vigilant since.
As someone who was directly inspired by your videos and went on to make several Pocket Operator jams with a similar lighthearted style, I now worry that I am somewhere in those blurred lines. Though I guess I did mention you as a huge inspiration. Either way, it's crazy that someone is simply trying to commodify your hard work. The internet is butts.
Thank you for bringing this up, Jeremy. I understand from an artistic perspective it hurts and all, but for your own mental wellbeing you can look at it this way: someone deemed your style so good they copied it. That mere fact proves what you're doing is awesome, and other people like it. So take some pride in it and forget about it. The copycat will always be the copycat, don't worry about that, and they will attract an audience that might not even be your target audience. The ones who know who you are will always be able to tell. Peace out.
Well done, Jeremy. I like to think plagiarists never get ahead in the long run. What a vapid life they must lead. Thanks for being a genuine artist. A copy of a copy is nothing 🙌
What a gentleman you are Jeremy. Hats off and much respect for putting this together and posting it. Has made me determined to examine my own creative processes which I think will be inspirational in itself. Thanks my good man :-)
Landed here for the little pocket operator videos and I'm still there because the format is really great and cool to watch and you're doing an wholesome job on it. They copy you and it's frustrating, but I won't give a single view to them. I watch those who are inspirationnal, and by that I mean you.
Hey Jeremy, You are one of the people that helps inspire me in my own music creation. Your creativity and ideas are unmatched. You are able to portray the creative process while also conveying your own personality and honesty. I believe that honesty wins and although Yuri (and probably more) will try to copy you, I don't think they'll ever get it the same way you do. There's only one Jeremy from Red Means Recording. Thank you for your awesome work and inspiration for me to do my best creative work.
hey man, i’ve been watching your videos for years...and they are the reason i rebought an OP-1...you are hugely inspiring, and i’m glad you created this video because i’ve noticed so many copycats out there, with Yuri being the most egregious...want you to know i give you credit for this original style!
I had stumbled upon Yuri Wong's videos at one point. Looking at the thumbnail at a glance I just thought "Oh shit yeah, new Red Means Recording video!" After a couple minutes of watching I realized it wasn't, not so much because I saw the channel title, but because it wasn't quite as... good. I then confirmed my feeling by looking at the channel and the comments, rife with others saying they came here expecting a RMR video, but instead got pickle rick memes. Point being, I'm glad YOU exist and your content is always worth watching.
One of my composition teachers has a technique based around this- basically, he starts playing an existing song then improvises on that until it's entirely original and there's something you like in there
“Nothing is original. Steal from anywhere that resonates with inspiration or fuels your imagination. Devour old films, new films, music, books, paintings, photographs, poems, dreams, random conversations, architecture, bridges, street signs, trees, clouds, bodies of water, light and shadows. Select only things to steal from that speak directly to your soul. If you do this, your work (and theft) will be authentic. Authenticity is invaluable; originality is non-existent. And don’t bother concealing your thievery - celebrate it if you feel like it. In any case, always remember what Jean-Luc Godard said: “It’s not where you take things from - it’s where you take them to." - Jim Jarmusch
I saw a thumbnail for one of his videos, and completely disregarded it, thinking , "He ripped off Jeremy." And I think most everyone in our synthy community knows you, and feels the same. Having watched many of your videos over the years, I think I enjoy it most when you talk about your life, and nobody can steal that. Keep on creating.
Bit late to this party but anyway let me thank you for being the creator you are and showing it. you're the kind of inspiration AND human approach we all need. Cheers!
I saw his videos before and just assumed that these were yours since I was watching yours regularly. But the quality was just off, so I checked and was stumped when it was some other dude. I think you have a good point and I hope it won't cost you too much, mentally and monetarily! Cheers Jeremy!
It's kinda ironic, I actually stumbled on this channel from Yuri's Tropic Thunder video, and I ended up here by following the suggested videos and genuinely didn't realize they were separate channels (which I feel like goes to show that it most definitely *is* plagiarism). I most definitely will say that I like this channel muuuuch more and I'm glad I found you here
I'm glad you quite rightly got that off your chest. You can be flattered by somebody being inspired, but the second it steps into those murky waters, it turns sour. Plus, I think the Pickle Rick sample thing shows it's a grab for numbers. Pickle Rick is the Spiderpig of Rick and Morty. It can be condensed down enough to be a cheap standalone bite the people will instantly recognise outside of any context. Was feeling intrigued enough to check out his videos to see what he's about, but I don't think I'll bother. Love your work. Keep doing what you do. 💪🏻
when I made an OP1 video where for the first time I inserted text overlay, even if the format was different (with other original ideas), I mentioned you many times and I invited the public to visit your channel via video links. It wasn't due, but I did it to be correct. Thanks again for your unique and interesting content.
Miss your OP-1 videos. Your captions had way more charisma and watching you experiment with tones to build a track was really inspiring. Genuinely! I still watch all of yours. Its so easy to get overwhelmed by the plethora of sounds we have available to us in this digital world. It's so easy to get paralyzed by all of those options and never complete a project. Seeing your method of experimenting with tones makes it seem so much less daunting. Just make the sounds, commit, and move on to the next project. That's my biggest take away form your content anyway. Thank you for the inspiration!
Sort of unrelated to the subject, but while I did originally find your channel through the OP-1 stuff and it is awesome and entertaining and something you should without a doubt be proud of I subscribed and continue to come back because of the older and newer stuff you've done, not just the OP-1 stuff. The digitone explorations and music you've done lately have been especially awesome, which is all the more impressive because you said you did them out of creative block/frustration. You're pretty awesome, and you make some pretty awesome stuff. Someone trying to take your style for their own gain just further proves that.
I found you through his videos actually! I didn't even realise it was two people to begin with, but while I unironically love the "me I know who I am" song of 'his', I found I really liked all of your stuff. I will also say that once I realised the videos I was watching were from two different channels, it was clear which was the copycat, even though I'd found his first.
I've been a happy Patreon for almost a year and this just makes me super sad, I saw those videos around but I only clicked once. I saw "RED" and I was like, I can't, this is just a blatant and cheap copy. I actually had the opportunity to buy a new op-1 a while ago for $600 but I didn't because to me it's your identity and I couldn't see myself using it on a video without feeling that I'm stealing you. In fact, I made a simple video with the Ableton Push (Flying Over Osaka) that takes some of these ideas and somebody made a comment about "reminds me of Red..." and I replied that of course, I'm not hiding it and I was trying to find my style in it. I still couldn't find it and I never have enough time to continue publishing, but never say never. Thanks for your inspiration!
I was going to say something like, “This is way more thoughtful and gracious than that guy deserves,” but I’m trying not to speak ill of other people anymore. Oh, **** it. This IS way more thoughtful and gracious than that guy deserves. LOL... Seriously, I really appreciate this - as a composer who is asked to work to very specific references a lot of the time, and also as a college instructor who quite often has to explain what you have so smartly covered here. Much appreciated.
I had no idea. I started watching you after the OP-1 videos apparently. When you put up the footage, I was like, "oh shit, that's Yuri". Thanks for sharing your experience. I think with the impersonal nature of the internet and everyone scrambling for that "partner" status in the spotlight, it's easy to lose a degree of humanity and common decency. It's harder than it's ever been to be original and easier than it's ever been to plagiarize. I'm sorry this happened to you. Keep kickin ass, brother. ✌️
When I saw Yuri's first OP1 video, I liked it. Yeah, the style was basically the same as yours, but hell, you found the best way to present the OP1 and explain what you're doing. It's the natural way to show off the OP1 and explain it without a voiceover wasting a bunch of time. That style should be the starting point for any OP1 how-to. And it was neat to see how, in using the same style, Yuri's own viewpoint came out, commenting on different things and highlighting different parts of production from you. There were hundreds of comments condemning him for ripping you off, but I felt like it was a nice place to start. And then he kept going, and he never changed or grew. "recording to red" seemed like a cute reference to you at first, but it quickly became obvious that this wan't just using your style as a starting point, it was just... using your style. In the beginning, I thought it was just some no-name guy getting started with the op1. Discovering that's he's a "viral video" guy makes me disgusted with the whole thing.
This is beautifully and competently articulated. I’m legit looking forward to being able to reference this when talking about plagiarism, and I hope instructors and artist community members use it as a teaching tool for young artists.
Red means recording, that's why I'm here and I saw his videos once or twice yes, but it's dull and soulless. Please don't be discouraged you're one of the most creative people I know, just after me of course ;P Love ya ! Red means subscribed!
Love you man keep pushing for change. Your vids are better js. Good luck with the continuation of your channel I know that many many people including myself are all here! Have a good day!
Hey Jeremy, been a fan for about two plus years now. Listening to you discuss a challenging issue like being plagiarized has helped me respect you as a decent human being, more than just a provider of dope, unique content. These conclusions of mine are largely based on your apparent effort to make this video constructive, rationally thought out, and with a achievable call to action at the end. Lastly, I strongly agree on your specific call to action; making the efforts to cite and inform your sources of inspiration for the part they played is, I think, a path that would simply change this music industry for the better, bit by bit, person by person. A much better idea than today's conventional methods of doxing and publicly shaming. So thank you for pushing up that high road Jeremy. No pressure to make just OP-1 videos, this is your gig and we, the audience get the privilege to watch you perform however you choose. -James
i come from a local community of miniature model painters, where everyone knows everyone and we all have our own siganture look when we paint a model. one of my past friends had become so obsessively inspired by a national painter that he started working towards learning how to do that style, but in doing so, he lost his own painting identity and all he would do was this one inspired style. the problem was that once he had lost his own style to add to that inspired style, it started looking liek bad copies of the inspirational artist. fast forward a few months and the original artist actually saw my friends stuff being posted on IG and roasted him really badly, knocking that its bad copies, not original at all and looks like his trying to make money off the original inspirations style without bringing any quality with it. said friend since stopped posting on social media due to being burned by the artist he looked up to, but no one locally felt so bad for him because we kept telling him it looked like copying instead of inspiration. this video describes his whole experience.
I was wondering when this was gonna come up. You inspired me to buy an op1 and share it’s magical-ness with as many people as I can! It’s terrible that someone would take your formula and pervert it with just making beats around a sample and calling it good. It’s not even close to the work you put in to your music. People will do anything to make a quick buck I guess... Thank you for being an inspiration to many of us!
I remember seeing the video and I was like oh hey it's Red Means Recording! But then the sound was a bit off and I realized it was a lot sloppier than your usual stuff. And was absolutely blown away that it was another person using your idea
It was great hearing you speak about your experience in a very constructive way. I imagine that a lot of people rage on their channels and I admire you being a bigger person in your situation. Love watching your stuff man ❤️
Really enjoying what you're doing Jeremy. Your music is fantastic - heartfelt, soulful. Rhythms that are alive and breathing coming from a box full of transistors. The way you address this - with tact and grace, exposes you as an exceptional human being. Keep it up, man. You're doing great work.
it's exhausting to see all this people trying to grow their channels with no purpose or intention to create content that is worthwhile. something that transcends youtube and sickens me, specially when it comes to businesses that should know better. the originality of your work is what i will always enjoy. cheers J!
I’ll take this time to thank you for your work in all the video and music you create. It is a massive inspiration to me and to others. Thank you. It is unfortunate what happened with this other RUclipsr.
I actually thought the Tropic Thunder video was yours until I tried to find it again and looked on your channel and couldn't find it. And while it's a decent video, once I realized it wasn't you, I bailed on that channel immediately. So it's good to see you're aware of this and commented on it. Cheers, keep up the great work.
Jeremy. I don’t want to lie to you, I watched his OP-1 videos (never subbed but it was in my recommended), just because i like OP-1 videos, ofc, and couldn’t resist not watching them. At the same time, I realized this, glad you spoke about it and so he stops this and apologize. I hope you keep your channel active (i also have to admit i didn’t have more videos to watch from u and that’s when i started watching everyone else’s LOL) hahaha but definitely congrats for your channel, you’re definitely the true hero and plagiarism is definitely not a good ting. You deserve the best, love u and ur wholesomeness! We will keep supporting you and hoping for new music from u!
I thought you made the pickle Rick videos! I saw them and then searched for them and your videos came up! I had no idea that other guy existed! Mind blown 🤯
I watched maybe one of Yuri's videos and I couldn't continue. To me the plagiaristic signs were obvious, but what really turned me off was the quality. There is something special, something magical about your videos, like a part of you is in each one. What you make is amazing. I came here for the OP-1 vids but stayed because of all the amazing music you've made (I really like your Digitakt videos :)). If it's any solace in this whole thing, I know that people will find your channel because, at the end of the day, there's a part of your soul in your music.
I’m inspired by you Jeremy.
I inspired you Jeremy :D
ruclips.net/video/DCtYnbGuQvo/видео.html . :)
"...for successfully plagiarizing Marvin's gay song."
I died.
Came for the op-1 videos, stayed for the wholesomeness. Love you Jeremy!
Love him too... Best dude...
Yuri stole many things...but he can never steal my heart the way you have 🤩.
Great video, well executed, lots of time and thoughtfulness went into something very personal. His videos are what they are, they’re just there. Your videos, they are at a level ONLY YOU can do for many reasons.
Thanks dude. ✋
Wow... just wow 👍
So true, I coulden't say it any better, so I won't even try.
I faced a similar issue and I did not speak up. I'm glad you did because you've done it in a much more articulate way that I could have. Next time I feel like talking about plagiarism and inspiration, I'll send people over to this video. Thank you so much for posting.
Hey man I love your walk & shoot vids, good to see you on here. Worlds are colliding!
Ive been really curious how you felt about these seemingly copycat channels, glad you were able to talk about this
what the heck
Robobglob youre a week late my mans
@@InternetSuperstarDavidElliott i know i know but what the frick
I want to keep echoing what I've said before on your videos, you are an awesome source of inspiration, I'm sad to see someone thought you were a source for plagiarism. I see so many comments about how people picked up OP-1 because of your inspiring videos, and I'm just one of the lucky few to have done so as well. Sad you have to go through this, but believe me, there's no copy out there that is near as good at this, as you. I know that might not dampen the blow of someone plagiarizing you, but to me it speaks of the strength of what you do - you do with such quality that can only come from living your idea - not simply copying it. In short, I'm with ya 100% on this topic, well spoken!
Hainbach as a product placement is fair idea.
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Hey Jeremy! Been following you since the early days of your channel. Your OP-1 vids got me hooked but it’s your personality, creativity and wholesomeness that have kept me hanging around! It’s evident to me that your fans adore you and ya can’t plagiarise feels goods like thems!
You're a huge inspiration, Jeremy. Because of your videos I got myself an OP-1, learned so many things from your content and this year finally released my first own EP, that was mainly produced on the OP-1. Big thanks for all the inspiration and keep it up!
Exactly the type of mature measured response I would have expected from you. I encourage people not to downvote his videos - because that is still engagement - but if you right click on the video of you see it in the feed there’s an option to say “I’m not interested”.
This video has reminded me how much you are not just a great musician, but also a great and insightful person.
Finally you made this video! Amazing!
I love that you’ve done the research and you really managed to get this point across but still being really nice about it.
You’re awsome
Thanks dude
Jeremy, I'm a late 20-something former school-musician who regrets moving away from music discipline and has sworn up and down that I'd get started at making something for years. After I found your channel I was heavily inspired to just get f***ing started. Seeing your techniques and skill made me engage with music learning like I hadn't before.
I'm still working on it - it's really hard when my rusty woodwind fingers are noodles on a keyboard and I'm tired from work, but I'm still working on it. I finally finished my first composition (that I'll never release)! I will fight tooth and nail for that desire to make music that resonates with how I feel.
I just wanted to say, you inspire me. Thank you! Please don't be discouraged. I hope this experience ends up being something that enriches your experience and helps you endure in the future too.
Thanks for being you. Keep up the good work.
I discovered you through your OP-1 videos. They allowed me to appreciate and enjoy a device that I could not afford, or justify the purchase of. But I stayed because of your charisma, talent and the feeling of positivity contained within your content.
Summary “All the things people that care about numbers do”. Hit the nail on the head with that. Also, i very much appreciate you taking a moment to talk about the things that surround this music business. I found it therapeutic and necessary so thanks g.
Thank you very much Jeremy.
Both for your excellent body of work, and this careful dissertation on the present topic.
Indeed this not only serves to be informative, but also presents your case well on this matter.
Certainly in some cases the old adage of "imitation is the best form of flattery" may apply.
However, it is apparent this is not the case with the current offender.
I would agree, this stinks of plagiarism.
It is a testament to your integrity to respond to it in this capacity.
I'm just a dude, playing a dude, making a video like another dude.
Edited to add: I think one of the few exceptions for creative copying would be "memes", where often an idea gets posted, and then others piggy-back that idea taking further and to new places..
@@thomasgraham8 That I don't monetize and posted for fun. I even wrote the original uploader and told him to claim it.
That's also a lot different than the subject here and not at all relevant to this discussion.
Good try though!
I’m glad this is being addressed. My first reaction when I come across these channels is to venomously defend your honor. But the way you addressed this makes me understand that you are already aware of what’s happening.
You’re completely right, that is plagiarism. You’re channel has always had a sense of ingenuity & creativity. Just stand your ground, your followers are here for you. You actually inspire others to do their own thing, fuck that guy that’s just in it for the money. He’ll fade.
You took that plagarism, turned it back into inspiration and made this video, whilst sampling other makers videos, referencing others people's work and giving on the way. Masterful! 👌🏾
Whenever I feel down or struggle with creative block I just rewatch a vid or two of yours. Your success wasn't just OP-1 and a table - it's the talent, sense of humour, feeling for melody, raw skills, who you are as a person - no one will be able to copy that. Keep up the great work.
I'm extremely glad that this video came out, recently your videos have been helping me with all sorts of things like theory and making new sounds to put in my music, I was even considering saving up for an OP-1 just because it looks like a lot of fun. You have a distinct style and that other guy can grab hold of a big fat lawsuit if you really wanted him to. You are an inspiration to artists everywhere and even if I don't make the same type of music, it's helping me more than anything other than school to watch someone create a full track in such an organic way.
I saw one of his videos first and luckily I went to the comments to find out that it was completely derivative of your work. I came to your channel and never looked back
Same here, I stumbled on his Tropic Thunder video and ended up stumbling over here from the suggested videos, and I'm so happy I did (and I too never looked back).
Duuuuuuuuuude. You have addressed this like the boss we know you are. Thanks for being the man you are, J. Glad to have come to know you a bit through the wildness that is the internet.
On top on my already sizeable admiration for your work & ethics, your response to this issue is way more civilised than what I could have mastered.
I'm glad you're covering this! I had a lot of second-hand frustration for you over this one. You'll always be the original and the best.
You tend to come across as a nonconfrontational person in general, making this video that much more important. Awesome job making the case and addressing this head on.
Dude, good on you for this. Just a brilliantly articulated and measured response.
As an artist myself this is something that's been on my mind for over 2 decades now. It's that internal struggle of being inspired by art, which is all around us everywhere, and wanting to execute your own version of something but knowing you need to make it your own. That is the most important step. We always said in art school, bad artists copy, good artists steal. What is the difference? When you steal something you take from someone else and make it your own. Jimmy Hendrix covering All Along the Watchtower. It's what you said exactly, fold it into your next project. Make it your own, there are still a lot of unique and interesting choices you can make after borrowing an idea. Once you start making all those choices, the thing art thing starts to become a different idea, still based on the inspiration, but slowly becoming different and personal. What this guy did was just straight rip off. He brought zero new ideas to the table. I would personally be embarrassed if you could tell where I borrowed from or I didn't reference the origin of the idea, that is, give credit where credit is due. Great video Jeremy.
Ace video Jeremy 👍
I find that when I try and copy someone it end's up sounding nothing like what I was trying to copy, so it is just inspiration to make some music in the end, it is just that something that got me started.
If i feel my music sounds like a poor imitation of something I was obsessed with and trying to emulate I usually spend a bit of time listening to 70's dub reggae and 70's punk, this usually gets me out of my rut and makes me forget about what I was obsessed with, point being it could be 60's soul and heavy metal but it makes you move away from the constriction you thought you had.
I find your music hugely inspirational but my music sounds nothing like yours at all, but you quite often give me the urge to turn on my gear and make some noise.
Thanks 👍😎
Hey Jeremy. I appreciate you. Keep doing what you do.
Man I saw that video a while back and it actually pissed me off how blatantly he ripped you off. The worst part was helplessly reading the comments from people who had no idea it was a copy. Well spoken and level headed response.
This was a good watch. It really felt like you'd approached what was, in my opinion, an frustratingly common and almost unfixable problem with the intent to avoid unnecessary drama and instead raise an interesting discussion whilst still expressing your experience and issues with the systems of plagiarism. 15 minutes and 47 seconds well spent.
Love you Jeremy, I'm sorry you're having to go through this. Your work and creations are something that are beautiful, thoughtful, wholesome, and inspirational. No amount of creepy comodification could ever take that away. Keep pushing the boundaries of your style and making content for all us weirdos out here that just love hearing your fingers talk. Thank you.
Schools/universities should reference this. I've known many people who believed paraphrasing isn't plagiarism, while adding nothing of their own to the end product. If you're inspired by something, you should have enough respect for the creator to at least give them a call out. They'll likely be honored that they provided inspiration, and you won't have a shameful shadow hanging over your work.
I remember when I first came across that guy's videos and I commented that he was plagiarizing. I think you handled this really really well. And I think this video will help those who are earnestly looking for inspiration from crossing over to stealing.
Thanks for helping me to face my fears of my story being a rip-off/plagiarised your plot instead of being inspired.
You have inspired me both personally and musically. Please keep making the videos that you feel you need to make. Your honesty and humility are what keeps us clicking.
PS: it was the Volca sample videos that brought me here. Your outlook is on what made me subscribe.
I personally got an OP-1 because of your videos. You and Cuckoo got me through a tough time in my life and got me back into believing I could create music again. thanks for that!
Depth can't be plagiarized, many of us look to your channel for the humanity because of it's lacking elsewhere. I'm glad you started this conversation. Your minions are many. We're happy you're here. Hopefully this teaches those without honor what it means.
Also, well done. I've seen the 'Record To Red' videos pop up in my recommended videos. I think I may have started watching one thinking it was yours. I didn't get to the end of it and have been more vigilant since.
As someone who was directly inspired by your videos and went on to make several Pocket Operator jams with a similar lighthearted style, I now worry that I am somewhere in those blurred lines. Though I guess I did mention you as a huge inspiration. Either way, it's crazy that someone is simply trying to commodify your hard work. The internet is butts.
Thank you for bringing this up, Jeremy. I understand from an artistic perspective it hurts and all, but for your own mental wellbeing you can look at it this way: someone deemed your style so good they copied it. That mere fact proves what you're doing is awesome, and other people like it. So take some pride in it and forget about it. The copycat will always be the copycat, don't worry about that, and they will attract an audience that might not even be your target audience. The ones who know who you are will always be able to tell. Peace out.
I just wanted to say that Angels are DEFINITELY sending me magical creative thoughts.
Well done, Jeremy. I like to think plagiarists never get ahead in the long run. What a vapid life they must lead. Thanks for being a genuine artist. A copy of a copy is nothing 🙌
What a gentleman you are Jeremy. Hats off and much respect for putting this together and posting it. Has made me determined to examine my own creative processes which I think will be inspirational in itself. Thanks my good man :-)
Landed here for the little pocket operator videos and I'm still there because the format is really great and cool to watch and you're doing an wholesome job on it.
They copy you and it's frustrating, but I won't give a single view to them. I watch those who are inspirationnal, and by that I mean you.
Hey Jeremy, You are one of the people that helps inspire me in my own music creation. Your creativity and ideas are unmatched. You are able to portray the creative process while also conveying your own personality and honesty. I believe that honesty wins and although Yuri (and probably more) will try to copy you, I don't think they'll ever get it the same way you do. There's only one Jeremy from Red Means Recording. Thank you for your awesome work and inspiration for me to do my best creative work.
hey man, i’ve been watching your videos for years...and they are the reason i rebought an OP-1...you are hugely inspiring, and i’m glad you created this video because i’ve noticed so many copycats out there, with Yuri being the most egregious...want you to know i give you credit for this original
style!
I'm sure this was not comfortable for you to make; but it needed to be made. Thank you.
I had stumbled upon Yuri Wong's videos at one point. Looking at the thumbnail at a glance I just thought "Oh shit yeah, new Red Means Recording video!" After a couple minutes of watching I realized it wasn't, not so much because I saw the channel title, but because it wasn't quite as... good. I then confirmed my feeling by looking at the channel and the comments, rife with others saying they came here expecting a RMR video, but instead got pickle rick memes. Point being, I'm glad YOU exist and your content is always worth watching.
as a video essay this is awesome. i love when youtubers take all the skills they've developed and do stuff like this.
Been noticing these blatant ripoffs of your content for a long time. I'm proud of you for releasing this video and doing it in a thoughtful way!
One of my composition teachers has a technique based around this- basically, he starts playing an existing song then improvises on that until it's entirely original and there's something you like in there
Thanks for the inclusion Jeremy! Love the video and the channel ❤️
“Nothing is original. Steal from anywhere that resonates with inspiration or fuels your imagination. Devour old films, new films, music, books, paintings, photographs, poems, dreams, random conversations, architecture, bridges, street signs, trees, clouds, bodies of water, light and shadows. Select only things to steal from that speak directly to your soul. If you do this, your work (and theft) will be authentic. Authenticity is invaluable; originality is non-existent. And don’t bother concealing your thievery - celebrate it if you feel like it. In any case, always remember what Jean-Luc Godard said: “It’s not where you take things from - it’s where you take them to." - Jim Jarmusch
THANK YOU! This needs to go viral throughout instagram..
I saw a thumbnail for one of his videos, and completely disregarded it, thinking , "He ripped off Jeremy." And I think most everyone in our synthy community knows you, and feels the same. Having watched many of your videos over the years, I think I enjoy it most when you talk about your life, and nobody can steal that. Keep on creating.
Bit late to this party but anyway let me thank you for being the creator you are and showing it.
you're the kind of inspiration AND human approach we all need. Cheers!
I saw his videos before and just assumed that these were yours since I was watching yours regularly. But the quality was just off, so I checked and was stumped when it was some other dude. I think you have a good point and I hope it won't cost you too much, mentally and monetarily! Cheers Jeremy!
It's kinda ironic, I actually stumbled on this channel from Yuri's Tropic Thunder video, and I ended up here by following the suggested videos and genuinely didn't realize they were separate channels (which I feel like goes to show that it most definitely *is* plagiarism). I most definitely will say that I like this channel muuuuch more and I'm glad I found you here
I'm glad you quite rightly got that off your chest. You can be flattered by somebody being inspired, but the second it steps into those murky waters, it turns sour. Plus, I think the Pickle Rick sample thing shows it's a grab for numbers. Pickle Rick is the Spiderpig of Rick and Morty. It can be condensed down enough to be a cheap standalone bite the people will instantly recognise outside of any context.
Was feeling intrigued enough to check out his videos to see what he's about, but I don't think I'll bother. Love your work. Keep doing what you do. 💪🏻
when I made an OP1 video where for the first time I inserted text overlay, even if the format was different (with other original ideas), I mentioned you many times and
I invited the public to visit your channel via video links. It wasn't due, but I did it to be correct.
Thanks again for your unique and interesting content.
Miss your OP-1 videos. Your captions had way more charisma and watching you experiment with tones to build a track was really inspiring. Genuinely! I still watch all of yours.
Its so easy to get overwhelmed by the plethora of sounds we have available to us in this digital world. It's so easy to get paralyzed by all of those options and never complete a project. Seeing your method of experimenting with tones makes it seem so much less daunting. Just make the sounds, commit, and move on to the next project. That's my biggest take away form your content anyway.
Thank you for the inspiration!
Sort of unrelated to the subject, but while I did originally find your channel through the OP-1 stuff and it is awesome and entertaining and something you should without a doubt be proud of I subscribed and continue to come back because of the older and newer stuff you've done, not just the OP-1 stuff. The digitone explorations and music you've done lately have been especially awesome, which is all the more impressive because you said you did them out of creative block/frustration.
You're pretty awesome, and you make some pretty awesome stuff. Someone trying to take your style for their own gain just further proves that.
I found you through his videos actually! I didn't even realise it was two people to begin with, but while I unironically love the "me I know who I am" song of 'his', I found I really liked all of your stuff.
I will also say that once I realised the videos I was watching were from two different channels, it was clear which was the copycat, even though I'd found his first.
Get'em my Jeremy. You were one of the big ones who inspired me to get a pocket operator and begin music making. ❤️
I've been a happy Patreon for almost a year and this just makes me super sad, I saw those videos around but I only clicked once. I saw "RED" and I was like, I can't, this is just a blatant and cheap copy.
I actually had the opportunity to buy a new op-1 a while ago for $600 but I didn't because to me it's your identity and I couldn't see myself using it on a video without feeling that I'm stealing you. In fact, I made a simple video with the Ableton Push (Flying Over Osaka) that takes some of these ideas and somebody made a comment about "reminds me of Red..." and I replied that of course, I'm not hiding it and I was trying to find my style in it. I still couldn't find it and I never have enough time to continue publishing, but never say never. Thanks for your inspiration!
I've always enjoyed your videos, mostly because of the music you make with the OP-1. Well done.
I knew immediately I've been following you for at least since Icarus. Love your work, ESPECIALLY CAT! that has been really fun for me.
I was going to say something like, “This is way more thoughtful and gracious than that guy deserves,” but I’m trying not to speak ill of other people anymore. Oh, **** it. This IS way more thoughtful and gracious than that guy deserves. LOL...
Seriously, I really appreciate this - as a composer who is asked to work to very specific references a lot of the time, and also as a college instructor who quite often has to explain what you have so smartly covered here. Much appreciated.
I had no idea. I started watching you after the OP-1 videos apparently. When you put up the footage, I was like, "oh shit, that's Yuri".
Thanks for sharing your experience. I think with the impersonal nature of the internet and everyone scrambling for that "partner" status in the spotlight, it's easy to lose a degree of humanity and common decency.
It's harder than it's ever been to be original and easier than it's ever been to plagiarize. I'm sorry this happened to you. Keep kickin ass, brother. ✌️
When I saw Yuri's first OP1 video, I liked it. Yeah, the style was basically the same as yours, but hell, you found the best way to present the OP1 and explain what you're doing. It's the natural way to show off the OP1 and explain it without a voiceover wasting a bunch of time. That style should be the starting point for any OP1 how-to. And it was neat to see how, in using the same style, Yuri's own viewpoint came out, commenting on different things and highlighting different parts of production from you. There were hundreds of comments condemning him for ripping you off, but I felt like it was a nice place to start. And then he kept going, and he never changed or grew. "recording to red" seemed like a cute reference to you at first, but it quickly became obvious that this wan't just using your style as a starting point, it was just... using your style. In the beginning, I thought it was just some no-name guy getting started with the op1. Discovering that's he's a "viral video" guy makes me disgusted with the whole thing.
This is beautifully and competently articulated. I’m legit looking forward to being able to reference this when talking about plagiarism, and I hope instructors and artist community members use it as a teaching tool for young artists.
sick note of thanks, I've busted wanted to say, I recognize you growth of being more than just a RUclips gear reviewer:)
A noble calling to all to be our higher selves. We are a hundred percent here for you. Thank you for exorcising the demons and please, keep it up! x
Red means recording, that's why I'm here and I saw his videos once or twice yes, but it's dull and soulless. Please don't be discouraged you're one of the most creative people I know, just after me of course ;P Love ya !
Red means subscribed!
AYYYYYYYYYYYYY. I AM SO PROUD OF U FOR DOING THIS.
F THOSE PEOPLE.
Love you man keep pushing for change. Your vids are better js. Good luck with the continuation of your channel I know that many many people including myself are all here! Have a good day!
Hey Jeremy, been a fan for about two plus years now. Listening to you discuss a challenging issue like being plagiarized has helped me respect you as a decent human being, more than just a provider of dope, unique content. These conclusions of mine are largely based on your apparent effort to make this video constructive, rationally thought out, and with a achievable call to action at the end. Lastly, I strongly agree on your specific call to action; making the efforts to cite and inform your sources of inspiration for the part they played is, I think, a path that would simply change this music industry for the better, bit by bit, person by person. A much better idea than today's conventional methods of doxing and publicly shaming.
So thank you for pushing up that high road Jeremy. No pressure to make just OP-1 videos, this is your gig and we, the audience get the privilege to watch you perform however you choose.
-James
i come from a local community of miniature model painters, where everyone knows everyone and we all have our own siganture look when we paint a model.
one of my past friends had become so obsessively inspired by a national painter that he started working towards learning how to do that style, but in doing so, he lost his own painting identity and all he would do was this one inspired style. the problem was that once he had lost his own style to add to that inspired style, it started looking liek bad copies of the inspirational artist.
fast forward a few months and the original artist actually saw my friends stuff being posted on IG and roasted him really badly, knocking that its bad copies, not original at all and looks like his trying to make money off the original inspirations style without bringing any quality with it.
said friend since stopped posting on social media due to being burned by the artist he looked up to, but no one locally felt so bad for him because we kept telling him it looked like copying instead of inspiration.
this video describes his whole experience.
I was so confused about these two channels, this helped to clear things up for me.
I was wondering when this was gonna come up. You inspired me to buy an op1 and share it’s magical-ness with as many people as I can! It’s terrible that someone would take your formula and pervert it with just making beats around a sample and calling it good. It’s not even close to the work you put in to your music. People will do anything to make a quick buck I guess...
Thank you for being an inspiration to many of us!
I remember seeing the video and I was like oh hey it's Red Means Recording! But then the sound was a bit off and I realized it was a lot sloppier than your usual stuff. And was absolutely blown away that it was another person using your idea
i subscribed to this channel for the content creation aspect of your videos, not specifically for the op-1
It was great hearing you speak about your experience in a very constructive way. I imagine that a lot of people rage on their channels and I admire you being a bigger person in your situation.
Love watching your stuff man ❤️
Really enjoying what you're doing Jeremy. Your music is fantastic - heartfelt, soulful. Rhythms that are alive and breathing coming from a box full of transistors.
The way you address this - with tact and grace, exposes you as an exceptional human being. Keep it up, man. You're doing great work.
BoBeats "Famous Hair Model." 😂😂😂Great video Jeremy!
I’m totally inspired by your videos, bruh!! I think it’s shitty that this guy did that and am behind you 100%.
I’m glad I’m not the only one who comes up with an idea and later realized it already exists and I’ve heard it before 😂
it's exhausting to see all this people trying to grow their channels with no purpose or intention to create content that is worthwhile. something that transcends youtube and sickens me, specially when it comes to businesses that should know better.
the originality of your work is what i will always enjoy. cheers J!
Thanks for the word pastiche. Had to look it up and glad I did!
Oh, and I wanted to create a channel called "Green Means Playback". In any case, I don't have an OP-1.
Leonard Petit-Breuilh Just use a TV remote, it's practically the same thing!
I’ll take this time to thank you for your work in all the video and music you create. It is a massive inspiration to me and to others. Thank you.
It is unfortunate what happened with this other RUclipsr.
I actually thought the Tropic Thunder video was yours until I tried to find it again and looked on your channel and couldn't find it. And while it's a decent video, once I realized it wasn't you, I bailed on that channel immediately. So it's good to see you're aware of this and commented on it. Cheers, keep up the great work.
Jeremy. I don’t want to lie to you, I watched his OP-1 videos (never subbed but it was in my recommended), just because i like OP-1 videos, ofc, and couldn’t resist not watching them. At the same time, I realized this, glad you spoke about it and so he stops this and apologize. I hope you keep your channel active (i also have to admit i didn’t have more videos to watch from u and that’s when i started watching everyone else’s LOL) hahaha but definitely congrats for your channel, you’re definitely the true hero and plagiarism is definitely not a good ting. You deserve the best, love u and ur wholesomeness! We will keep supporting you and hoping for new music from u!
Jeremy, you are good and I'm glad you make good things.
I thought you made the pickle Rick videos! I saw them and then searched for them and your videos came up! I had no idea that other guy existed! Mind blown 🤯
I watched maybe one of Yuri's videos and I couldn't continue. To me the plagiaristic signs were obvious, but what really turned me off was the quality. There is something special, something magical about your videos, like a part of you is in each one. What you make is amazing. I came here for the OP-1 vids but stayed because of all the amazing music you've made (I really like your Digitakt videos :)). If it's any solace in this whole thing, I know that people will find your channel because, at the end of the day, there's a part of your soul in your music.