Genn speaking about change and its challenges, the song playing from 1:00 onward is a cataclysm song called "Nothing has changed". A beautiful piece, if you're wondering it plays in the burned parts of mt. hyjal.
Thank you so much - been desperately trying to find that track since I was reminded of it in this cutscene, it feels so nostalgic to me. It's not listed on the official Cata soundtrack so I had no idea what it was called. Awesome to see the cinematic directors make that connection with this scene and that Cata track.
About damn time they adressed Genn's neglectfulness of Tess. Ever since Liam died, Genn has been so preocupied with trying to treat Anduin like his own son that he completely forgot about his other still living child and the fact that he needed to prepare her for her ascension on the throne. I understand that Genn had a lot of trauma in the aftermath of Liam's death, but he got so obsessed with vengeance that it was straining his relationship with his daughter who needed him most.
Glenn’s obsession with revenge often bordered on the insane and cost a lot of good people their lives in both the Horde and the Alliance, so him giving up the throne is truly an all-round good thing. Tess is much more level-headed.
@@Ultimaton100 You'd want revenge too if your child was murdered, your people were dislodged out of their home and various other calamities befell you. It's time we stop ignoring these things. Modern WoW is all about "don't hold grudges" but that's an empty and hollow message in a world of constant death and war. You don't hold a grudge when someone eats your hot dog, you definitely hold a grudge when someone kills your family and steals your home. The Forsaken have so much blood on their hands they can open a blood bank. You can't just sweep these things under the rug (which is what modern WoW is all about btw) and pretend suddenly everyone likes each other and we're all buddies. That's why I don't want Tess. Yet another yesman to this idiotic mindset. She doesn't put Gilneas first and foremost.
@@Vahki100I never said Genn had no reason to be angry, my point is the way he went about dealing with his pain only caused more senseless death and destruction. The families of those who’ve died because of him would be justified seeking revenge on him and his kin, by your logic. An endless cycle. Furthermore, and this is no doubt difficult for fans of his like you obviously to hear, but Genn has never put Gilneas first or shown much care for the Alliance as a whole. It was always about what *he* wanted. He literally walled off the outside world and condemned his people to a self-imposed exile simply because he had political disputes with his allies after the Second War. He waged war on his own people when some of them refused to stay isolated forever. He led many Alliance soldiers to their deaths in violation of a peace treaty all to pursue his vengeance against Sylvanas in Stormheim, and it was all for naught in the end. He led yet another Alliance expedition to ruin at Nazjatar, all in pursuit of Sylvanas’ No. 2. who eluded him quite handily. Lastly, I feel it necessary to point out the Alliance has a higher count of atrocities, attempted atrocities, and even outright war crimes overall, including against the Forsaken. The Horde has been expected to sweep all that under the rug and move on ever since Cataclysm.
It's nice that Blizz is giving some spotlight to the "new" characters, especially the young ones that grew up and should take leader positions in the near future.
Retaking it is one thing, let's hope it doesn't just sit there for another decade+ and we can actually participate in some rebuilding. Gilnean architecture always looked so good, it's been wasted for years.
Oh Tess, give your father some room. Losing a child scars a person. It's easy for you to criticize Genn for his behaviors, when you have no children of your own. "I'm not over it. I will never be over it." ~Uncle Iroh
Just in time for Cata Classic this year. Not trying to be cynical, I mean seriously, it's when we got our first introduction to Tess and Genn, the latter just a name from the Warcraft 2 manual the 90s. It's cool to see things kinda come around full circle for them.
Yeah, only a handful remain. Genn, Turalyon and Khadgar as far as humans go I think. But I mean, that's life. People die and new characters take their spotlight. Reminds me that wow is an evolving universe.
@@GioFan201051 yes but we have one like slyvans walking around and some like Varian, Tirion fordring and other awesome heroes died and for what one stupid guldan... That's just not fair.
Holy crap, this was easily the best cutscene/cinematic in recent memory. The scene is pretty bleak given it has assets from Cataclysm, but Genn and Tess both look and sound amazing, and the writing, music, and general tone of the entire thing are all marvelous. Light-years ahead of the Night Elf cinematic with Tyrande, Shandris and Malfurion.
Nice cutscene. But no, the reason they built the wall is not to hide his 'pain', lol. Nice to see Darius Crowley getting his comeuppance at least.. cough
hmmm i mean he is right when it comes to Tess she have always been special and important to him considering her history. i am bit conflicted with the fact that he is leaving Gilneas in her hands, but then again the Heritage armor Questline does shows Tess is more than ready to lead, because she both understand the Gilneans that are still humans and those that have become Worgen. still i wish that we could have met Liam back at the Shadowlands it would have been a interesting thing. well let see what will be for the future i guess.
I found the quest-chain pretty underwhelming. The Forsaken help you so little that really, it didn’t justify their presence. I could have seen Calia being there just to show support, though. And the Alliance “forces” seemed to amount to like 20 people. Where were Darius & Lorna Crowley taking back their home? Where were the other prominent worgen characters? Hyping this as a big patch feature for a series of quests that could be completed in 30 minutes is a joke. That said, this cutscene is beautiful. I always saw Genn stepping aside to let Tess take the throne, I just wish it had come at the end of something a little more meaningful.
It is pretty much what to expect, similar to the reclaiming of Lordaeron recently. This was never meant to be a huge event, but a set up for future changes in the area. And a way to bring the Forsaken and Gilneans together. It makes sense that Calia and Lilian were the ones to help out. Calian knew the Greymanes before both had changed, and Lilian knows the Scarlet Crusaders. Though I wonder what the rest of the Desolate Council thought about this. It is stated in a comment that the military of the Forsaken acted as a distraction to draw the Scarlet Crusaders away, allowing the small force to infiltrate the Gilnean capital and take out the Crusade's leader. I imagine the bulk of the Alliance forces were also working 'off screen' to retake the rest of the country. It seems small scale, because we the players weren't involved in the big action, just the important part. It could have been bigger sure... But this is just a relatively minor event setting up future changes, at the end of the expansion. This is the part where small updates are made to wrap up old story lines and prepare for ones in the new expansion. This is event pretty much is what we should have expected. Pretty much what I was expecting.
@@nekoali2 The problem with that is, I doubt the Alliance can actually afford to participate in such a large-scale takeover. If the Crusade is big enough to conquer an entire nation, they're big enough that the absolutely decimated Alliance military probably shouldn't be able to defeat them. The forsaken army draws the Crusade's attention and baits them around for a bit - sure. But then, once the Crusade either catch and kill them, or lose them... they'll just come back to the city and take it right back.
I see two scenario that can happen she and anduin can bear successors to throne of both kingdoms or pass the throne in a create council like the three hammers like in khaz modan.
@@Ultimaton100 The fox is trash. Id rather have a carriage with a buffed up horse like the Gilnean pvp mount or a huge Gilnean Raven or something than a reskinned fox. And whoever keeps making the Gilnean transmog sets should be fired. Both are complete dogshit.
Is there a new voice actor for Genn? It's good if he abdicates. Because as he says, he can't really change. He once betrayed the Alliance, was angry when Varian didn't want to accept the Worgen and has always failed at everything he wanted to do. And in all his grief for his son, he has forgotten that he still has a child. Even if the child is "only" a girl (and as you can see from many of the comments, many people have a problem with strong women, how pathetic). But he's no different than Magni was.
Plus let’s not forget he violated the peace treaty Varian signed with Vol’jin when he attacked the Horde unprovoked in Stormheim during Legion, costing lives on both sides and losing an entire Alliance gunship in the process. He’s long been too hot-headed and narrow minded to be an effective monarch in my view.
I wonder where Isiden Perenolde, the nephew of Aiden Perenolde, the former King of Alterac, who fled to Gilneas and was backed by Genn Greymane, when the matter of succession to the throne of Alterac came up is ... I guess Blizzard forgot
I'd have to say I like the cutscene but was overall disappointed. I don't know why but I had so many ideas of "more" for the retaking of gilneas, especially since they had it behind encryptions. I was hoping more along the lines of something between a mix of the later Suramar chains and Isle of Thunder. Was thinking it'd be one of those things where the opening week was just us setting a foothold on the outskirts of Gilneas and building a outpost or something with which to strike, then over the next few weeks getting closer and closer to the main city and eventually taking it all back. Was hoping there'd be like unique treasures to find everywhere, rare spawns and maybe a world boss or mini-dungeon/raid to end it all out. Just something to give us another questing hub than just Amirdrassil, as sadly I'm already tiring of that place. Also with the transmog we got its got me wishing that WoW would be like a few other MMORPG's I've played where you have "combat gear/mog" and "city mog", as while that new Gilnean set looks dapper I don't see any of my toons, including my Worgen, using that as their mog. I mean they now have the professions gear we wear when gathering/crafting, it'd be awesome of when we're just chilling in a Inn or a safe city we have the option of wearing "civvies"......
To be honest, this is what you can kind of expect from a small patch and that's completely fine. You will never have a retake city siege if they are not the focus of a content patch, this is a side story, but I know what you mean.
This was a bit of a letdown.The story lines in Dragonflight are too much about love, family, friendship, forgiveness, acceptance, hold no grudges and forget the past. It’s like written for young children. Where’s the war and hatred? I’m not asking for things to become dark, gritty and edgy, but there’s gotta be some balance. The writers are playing it way too safe, and it makes things boring and bland.
I get a real Timesplitters vibe from the new facial animations mixed with the chunky cartoony aesthetic and, man, I really dig it. It’s my favourite kind of video game aesthetic.
tbh the whole scenario was boring. It was just a bunch of scarlet crusades... Couldn't the alliance remove them from Gilneas? It was really necessary for the forsaken and the horde to be there? Just send the whole alliance and done.. Also Genn is a great character and a total badass, removing him from the scene and making a boring character like Tess Queen feels bad.
Genn is somewhere around 70+ years old at this point, let him retire, no need to get him killed on "random battleflied 5922" because his arthritis kicks in at an unfortunate moment
Genn is cool because he's an extremely flawed person... unfortunately, that makes him a terrible king. Personally glad he's stepping down, he shines as an adviser and has a bad track record as a leader.
@@KorporateKotoo yep, why he was a good King in the first place. Though him stepping down is also understandable the fact that the dude’s in his like 80s
Been playing Worgen since Cata, and I am angry. Genn wasn't the best king, but he was the reason the Worgen survived. Sylvanas was evil, but she did not act alone... and now Tess is out "queen" and she isn't even a worgen. So much for our curse giving us strength. Plus... retaking Gilneas took... what? An hour? less? Disappointed.
Did you play the heritage armor questline? It essentially ends with Tess understanding the worgen, learning what the curse really means, and being convinced that she should not become worgen, even tho the entire premise of the questline was that she was planning to make it happen against all advise
Said Disney princess doing more for her people than her lame ass father who literally doomed his kingdom and all others by building a bigass wall and being an isolationist btw!!!
@@cameronmcewen9666 I know Thrall came back as speaker for the orcs, but when he did step down as Warcheif to go off and get lazy in Nagrand he caused one of the worst chain reactions that led to many disasterous conflicts.
Reclaiming Gilneas just doesn’t feel satisfying when the Worgen’s most prominent character gets demoted at the end. I get that Tess was the focus of the Worgen heritage quest, but most players haven’t interacted with her before this questline. Woke isn’t the right term for this, it just felt forced.
What's with indian drama type of animation...They close their eyes for an hour to utter a sentence then move as if they are about to perform a Kamasutra
Well Tess has needed some focus and development, like, she's barely gotten any, it better not be at the expense of sacrificing Genn on the wheel of 'progressivism'.
@@MrOrcshaman He's not a king and even if he was he doesn't have an heir after we killed his son lol. I wouldn't compare an alien who acts more of a spiritual guide to his people to a human king.
While it would be amusing, i dont think they're doing that if they wish to keep stormwind and gilneas separated. Then again, Lor'themar and Thalyssra are married nowadays so who knows.
@@rafaelrodriguez-oc4ph Yeah..Lor'themar and Thalyssra got canon because people on Twitter were all over the place with shipping them even though they make no sense together and the same thing happened with Mathias Shaw and Flynn. So I guess it could work with Tess and Anduin too, but I doubt people will ship those two more than they ship Wrathion with Anduin, so I don't really know 😅
I’m actually glad genn isn’t taking the throne, he’s a terrible king 💀💀 he’s a lot better in an advisor position like he has been to anduin since legion.
What a complete nonsens, he's the only king that saved his Kingdom from the scourge, also he wanted to "get rid" of the orcs instead of closing them in camps which unfortunately didn't happened.
@@Ultimaton100 orcs invaded Azeroth and killed many innocent people, so I don't see why humans should treat them with any mercy. Also how was Greymane supposed to predict that there was such a thing as the Worgen curse and that it would spread to humans? After all, in the beginning worgens did their job by stopping the plague.
If Tess were to be the new leader of the Gilneas, then she needs to become a Worgen in the not very far future. Genn himself said it the best: "Our curse is also our greatest gift." Being a Worgen but also a Human is what defines the Gilneans. As the future queen she has to understand the way we Gilneans master our ferocity
@@zombe08 Right, but she didn't actually become a Worgen, she simply experienced how it is to be one for a short amount of time, personally I don't think that's enough
We never saw anything of Liam other than him dead. And just because you have a problem with women, you little prick, doesn't mean it's going to be bad.
Liam had like 2 minutes of character development, back in cata, if you played the worgen starting zone. I would not say he was a good character. pretty generic dark fantasy crownprince stuff. Tess on the flipside was there and in stories since and in Legion and in BfA, filling out her repertoire as "the princess that gets overlooked" (to the point she actually uses stealth), actually wants to become worgen herself, proves she understands the worgen, etc. Tess is a well built up character imo.
I really don't want Tess to be Queen to be honest. Genn wasn't perfect - but he is our King. Tess is not ready yet. We also should never forget the past. The Forsaken are the reason we have this situation in the first place!
Think that a sylvanas loyalist should have betrayed them at the end and killed the voiceless queen or something. Would have enraged wolf boy and given the cinematic some much needed “teeth”.
I'm kind of curious to see why Blizz are mixing up the leaders for the Alliance. Like the Night Elf one makes more sense, Tyrande and Malfurion have pretty much been getting railed by the lore department since BFA so understandable they want to have time for themselves - and Shandris has had a ton of spotlight recently. But the Worgen/Gilneas leader switching over to Tess and Genn passing his titles to her feels a bit meh, probably could of made more sense with a bit more character development and switching her over to leader after War Within. Unless the intent is to remove all the main characters from their duty so they are free to do whatever with them in this trilogy they are creating
Genn is olllld by now. He was wellinto adulthood when wc3 took place, + ca. 20 years, hes somewhere around 60-70 now, at least. given hes human, Id say its fair to let him retire
Why does Blizzard write kings as if they’re angsty teenage girls? 2 kings have stepped down from their kingdoms now… this isn’t how kings of old act. What is this garbage?
@@CaptainDope She’s definitely more familiar to rogue players who did the order hall campaign in Legion, but still her relative obscurity doesn’t change the fact she’s been the heir for some time. I agree her taking the throne here and now was unexpected, but it’s not part of an agenda is my only point.
What an utter waste - years we waited to reclaim Lordaeron, and we got that sh*t show of a prologue. Then, we finally get the reclaiming of Gilneas, the redemption, but we are yet again offered this - hardly a footnote.
@@rafaelrodriguez-oc4phExactly. This has been coming for a long time, well over a decade at this point. It’s not part of some new age political or social trend.
"Fragile men", you can't think of any other insulting words because you can't think for yourself don't you? Like most US liberal NPC. If you've used some of your neurons, you would have seen that Dragonflight is full of women leads, men being replaced, and pushed that men are bad throughout the expansion, all to sate women neediness. - Senegos killed to be replaced by Stellagosa - Tuskarr female lead after Tuskarr male leader killed; tuskarr men act like they don't have any functioning brain cells - Chromie and Zoridormi took stage instead of Nozdormu; Nozdormu was impotent throughout the expansion - Vyranoth redeemed while male counterparts are evil - Niffen, female lead - Guardians of the Dream was full of female leads - Centaurs: only male leader is evil, while centaurs quote "may you be blessed with daughters" - Dragonscale Expedition, female leads; Wonder why Brann, an established and beloved lore character wasn't used, despite him being an expert on titan tech? - Malfurion replaced by Ysera, for no good reason; Hell, Malfurion was so nuttered in favor Tyrande it's amazing how dumbed down the character is from his Warcraft 3 counterpart. - Centaurs: only male leader is evil, while centaurs quote "may you be blessed with daughters" Goodbye little NPC
@@Ultimaton100 Exactly, like these people are so paranoid of "woke" or sumtg like that till the point where they would imagining and mad at something that's not even "woke". Internet and news has f up so many people.
Snowflake Edit: Just to make it clear I am calling Op the snowflake for apparently being so butt hurt that after a King abdicates his daughter became queen
Tess has been heir to the throne for about fourteen years at this point, ever since Cata. She was predestined to take over for her father ever since Liam died, so surely this can’t be that big of a surprise for you.
Genns dauighter, Liams younger sister, Crown princess of Gilneas and high ranking member of the Ravenhold society. Also, she had a... lesson... provided to her by Goldrinn (Wolf Demigod and Demigod patreon of the Worgen) about worgen-ness. She excelled at it, thus giving the worgen player accompanying her a neat new set of heritage transmog (with a dapper hat and everything!) :)
Genns daughter. We don't really see much of her until Legion where she's part of the rogues class hall and helps with some quests. Then for the Worgen heritage quest she's the main focus.
Ah yes "the world is changing" and the old white male cant change with it so he passes down the kingdom to an otherwise minor character who is obv going to be the strong female. Noone cares about change, warcraft fans are 30 year old dudes who want to see Genn and Gilneas destroy the forsaken and take back their kingdom not this bullcrap.
so...now what? we did the quest and nothing else to do on gilneas i wonder what wow developer team does most of the time this does not look like a work longer than a week for a big company
![Gilneas Reclaimed Cinematic: Tess & Genn Worgen Ending - Liam’s Memorial [WoW 10.2.5]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/JMTkB0eaSyQ/mqdefault.jpg)
Genn speaking about change and its challenges, the song playing from 1:00 onward is a cataclysm song called "Nothing has changed". A beautiful piece, if you're wondering it plays in the burned parts of mt. hyjal.
Thank you so much - been desperately trying to find that track since I was reminded of it in this cutscene, it feels so nostalgic to me. It's not listed on the official Cata soundtrack so I had no idea what it was called. Awesome to see the cinematic directors make that connection with this scene and that Cata track.
You have a big thanks from me, too! I don't play WOW from quite some time but this song instantly reminded me of my favourite zone in the game!
It's weird to see him in a cinematic without yelling "Sylvanaaaaaas"
About damn time they adressed Genn's neglectfulness of Tess. Ever since Liam died, Genn has been so preocupied with trying to treat Anduin like his own son that he completely forgot about his other still living child and the fact that he needed to prepare her for her ascension on the throne. I understand that Genn had a lot of trauma in the aftermath of Liam's death, but he got so obsessed with vengeance that it was straining his relationship with his daughter who needed him most.
Never really cared much for Tess to be honest, she seems not very likeable.
Glenn’s obsession with revenge often bordered on the insane and cost a lot of good people their lives in both the Horde and the Alliance, so him giving up the throne is truly an all-round good thing. Tess is much more level-headed.
@@Ultimaton100 You'd want revenge too if your child was murdered, your people were dislodged out of their home and various other calamities befell you.
It's time we stop ignoring these things. Modern WoW is all about "don't hold grudges" but that's an empty and hollow message in a world of constant death and war.
You don't hold a grudge when someone eats your hot dog, you definitely hold a grudge when someone kills your family and steals your home. The Forsaken have so much blood on their hands they can open a blood bank.
You can't just sweep these things under the rug (which is what modern WoW is all about btw) and pretend suddenly everyone likes each other and we're all buddies.
That's why I don't want Tess. Yet another yesman to this idiotic mindset. She doesn't put Gilneas first and foremost.
@@Ultimaton100 it did prevent Sylvanas from binding all of the val'kyr to her service, so it wasn't all bad.
@@Vahki100I never said Genn had no reason to be angry, my point is the way he went about dealing with his pain only caused more senseless death and destruction. The families of those who’ve died because of him would be justified seeking revenge on him and his kin, by your logic.
An endless cycle.
Furthermore, and this is no doubt difficult for fans of his like you obviously to hear, but Genn has never put Gilneas first or shown much care for the Alliance as a whole. It was always about what *he* wanted.
He literally walled off the outside world and condemned his people to a self-imposed exile simply because he had political disputes with his allies after the Second War.
He waged war on his own people when some of them refused to stay isolated forever.
He led many Alliance soldiers to their deaths in violation of a peace treaty all to pursue his vengeance against Sylvanas in Stormheim, and it was all for naught in the end.
He led yet another Alliance expedition to ruin at Nazjatar, all in pursuit of Sylvanas’ No. 2. who eluded him quite handily.
Lastly, I feel it necessary to point out the Alliance has a higher count of atrocities, attempted atrocities, and even outright war crimes overall, including against the Forsaken. The Horde has been expected to sweep all that under the rug and move on ever since Cataclysm.
It's nice that Blizz is giving some spotlight to the "new" characters, especially the young ones that grew up and should take leader positions in the near future.
WoWs new Avengers lol. Wouldn't be surprised if we see Moira's son stepping up soon.
bulshit
@@justinb7494nah, Moiras Son will forever be a 1year old in his little babybed 🙃
He's actually a teen now, he's been in a short story before Dragoflight's release @@GarroshTV
Horde and Alliance still has a huge imbalance of power at the moment.
I think Tess in her outfit from her Hearthstone card haha! Very nice detail
Genn realizing. "No King rules forever"
That meme's too old school now. Way too old school.
Retaking it is one thing, let's hope it doesn't just sit there for another decade+ and we can actually participate in some rebuilding.
Gilnean architecture always looked so good, it's been wasted for years.
Idk so far they are pretty damn lazy. Only a handful of NPCs added and only in a little area.
Oh Tess, give your father some room. Losing a child scars a person. It's easy for you to criticize Genn for his behaviors, when you have no children of your own.
"I'm not over it. I will never be over it." ~Uncle Iroh
Exactly. You never "get over" a child or parent dying. You just learn to live with it.
@@CaptainDope almost everyone loses a parent, thats just life. But no parent should have to lose a child.
"you always could see right through me" sir you made your whole personality about Liam.
Liam and Sylvanas
these cutscenes and character models are improving nicely and so is the story.
really? To me it looks like they yassified Genn
@@raziel6304they come a long way since bfa dancing mouths
@@raziel6304
wat
They added more detail.
The Animation and the Looks: Yes. The Story: hell no
Just in time for Cata Classic this year. Not trying to be cynical, I mean seriously, it's when we got our first introduction to Tess and Genn, the latter just a name from the Warcraft 2 manual the 90s. It's cool to see things kinda come around full circle for them.
Genn true friend of king Varian, we all love you genn, also he is i think one of the few old people that blizz didnt kill😑
Yeah, only a handful remain. Genn, Turalyon and Khadgar as far as humans go I think. But I mean, that's life. People die and new characters take their spotlight. Reminds me that wow is an evolving universe.
@@GioFan201051 yes but we have one like slyvans walking around and some like Varian, Tirion fordring and other awesome heroes died and for what one stupid guldan... That's just not fair.
Beautiful cutscene, but! No flight point, no way to make it your home city, no portals. Makes me sad!
You can get a toy that teleports you back. Not sure if it’s exclusive to worgen though I imagine it is.
There's literally an innkeeper in Gilneas.
@@siddhianishkala4543 really? 😍
Two actually: Gwen in the city proper, and one down in Stormglen@@theturtlearchives
@@Desiremademanifest no way to make it your home city is because there is no flight point or any of the functions a normal city has
Holy crap, this was easily the best cutscene/cinematic in recent memory. The scene is pretty bleak given it has assets from Cataclysm, but Genn and Tess both look and sound amazing, and the writing, music, and general tone of the entire thing are all marvelous. Light-years ahead of the Night Elf cinematic with Tyrande, Shandris and Malfurion.
Nice cutscene. But no, the reason they built the wall is not to hide his 'pain', lol.
Nice to see Darius Crowley getting his comeuppance at least.. cough
Gilneas should have built a wall and made the Forsaken pay for it.
And the missive sent in reply from the Forsaken would read as follows: “Suck rope, you idiots.”
No tess… that’s not at all why he built the wall… taking anduin under his wing, yes. but the wall? No.
hmmm i mean he is right when it comes to Tess she have always been special and important to him considering her history.
i am bit conflicted with the fact that he is leaving Gilneas in her hands, but then again the Heritage armor Questline does shows Tess is more than ready to lead, because she both understand the Gilneans that are still humans and those that have become Worgen.
still i wish that we could have met Liam back at the Shadowlands it would have been a interesting thing.
well let see what will be for the future i guess.
the guy (genn) was one of the worst kings out there. he left his people to die because thought himself untouchable. Tess is going to do better
I wish they had risen Liam instead of Derek and have him help reclaim gilneas as a forsaken.
Since derek is just being useless plot device
@@motyfokol5392 Genn never left his people to die.
I found the quest-chain pretty underwhelming. The Forsaken help you so little that really, it didn’t justify their presence. I could have seen Calia being there just to show support, though. And the Alliance “forces” seemed to amount to like 20 people. Where were Darius & Lorna Crowley taking back their home? Where were the other prominent worgen characters? Hyping this as a big patch feature for a series of quests that could be completed in 30 minutes is a joke.
That said, this cutscene is beautiful. I always saw Genn stepping aside to let Tess take the throne, I just wish it had come at the end of something a little more meaningful.
All of the named and generally important Worgen characters do take part in the event - they're fighting outside the cathedral before the final fight.
@@parkerboshears2836 Just feels a bit, well… bleergh, y’know?
It was verry unsatisfying
It is pretty much what to expect, similar to the reclaiming of Lordaeron recently. This was never meant to be a huge event, but a set up for future changes in the area. And a way to bring the Forsaken and Gilneans together. It makes sense that Calia and Lilian were the ones to help out. Calian knew the Greymanes before both had changed, and Lilian knows the Scarlet Crusaders. Though I wonder what the rest of the Desolate Council thought about this.
It is stated in a comment that the military of the Forsaken acted as a distraction to draw the Scarlet Crusaders away, allowing the small force to infiltrate the Gilnean capital and take out the Crusade's leader. I imagine the bulk of the Alliance forces were also working 'off screen' to retake the rest of the country. It seems small scale, because we the players weren't involved in the big action, just the important part.
It could have been bigger sure... But this is just a relatively minor event setting up future changes, at the end of the expansion. This is the part where small updates are made to wrap up old story lines and prepare for ones in the new expansion. This is event pretty much is what we should have expected. Pretty much what I was expecting.
@@nekoali2 The problem with that is, I doubt the Alliance can actually afford to participate in such a large-scale takeover. If the Crusade is big enough to conquer an entire nation, they're big enough that the absolutely decimated Alliance military probably shouldn't be able to defeat them.
The forsaken army draws the Crusade's attention and baits them around for a bit - sure. But then, once the Crusade either catch and kill them, or lose them... they'll just come back to the city and take it right back.
0:59 music here is incredible
Cataclysm, grol'dom farm
@@smorevids It's named The Regrowth too! One of my favourite music in the game
Finally found a wife for Anduin 😮
Anduin has a lot of chicks around him, give him a break, he lost his way now
Talia is ... not Tess
No.
I see two scenario that can happen she and anduin can bear successors to throne of both kingdoms or pass the throne in a create council like the three hammers like in khaz modan.
@@deltaseba Tess will be more fitting.
Well Genn, you're DEFINITELY not going to heal once you see the rewards you're giving players for completing the "reclamation".
Eh, the reskinned fox mount is nice, but that transmog, yikes.
@@Ultimaton100 The fox is trash. Id rather have a carriage with a buffed up horse like the Gilnean pvp mount or a huge Gilnean Raven or something than a reskinned fox.
And whoever keeps making the Gilnean transmog sets should be fired. Both are complete dogshit.
Or when either the forsaken or the Scarlet Crusade destroy the city again lol
Is there a new voice actor for Genn?
It's good if he abdicates. Because as he says, he can't really change. He once betrayed the Alliance, was angry when Varian didn't want to accept the Worgen and has always failed at everything he wanted to do. And in all his grief for his son, he has forgotten that he still has a child. Even if the child is "only" a girl (and as you can see from many of the comments, many people have a problem with strong women, how pathetic). But he's no different than Magni was.
He’s still voiced by Cameron Folmar.
Nah, they pitched his voice down for some reason
Plus let’s not forget he violated the peace treaty Varian signed with Vol’jin when he attacked the Horde unprovoked in Stormheim during Legion, costing lives on both sides and losing an entire Alliance gunship in the process. He’s long been too hot-headed and narrow minded to be an effective monarch in my view.
@@merlylvsm why do I feel like there is someone new working on the sound features and that is why his voice got pitched down.
I wonder where Isiden Perenolde, the nephew of Aiden Perenolde, the former King of Alterac, who fled to Gilneas and was backed by Genn Greymane, when the matter of succession to the throne of Alterac came up is
...
I guess Blizzard forgot
Finally, Genn, finally you realized certain things 👏🏻
Is he still going to be against the Forsaken? Calia is only there to negotiate.
Passing the torch to Tess... that's a good move.
Tess got a new ig face? Daaaamn blizz
I'd have to say I like the cutscene but was overall disappointed. I don't know why but I had so many ideas of "more" for the retaking of gilneas, especially since they had it behind encryptions. I was hoping more along the lines of something between a mix of the later Suramar chains and Isle of Thunder. Was thinking it'd be one of those things where the opening week was just us setting a foothold on the outskirts of Gilneas and building a outpost or something with which to strike, then over the next few weeks getting closer and closer to the main city and eventually taking it all back. Was hoping there'd be like unique treasures to find everywhere, rare spawns and maybe a world boss or mini-dungeon/raid to end it all out. Just something to give us another questing hub than just Amirdrassil, as sadly I'm already tiring of that place. Also with the transmog we got its got me wishing that WoW would be like a few other MMORPG's I've played where you have "combat gear/mog" and "city mog", as while that new Gilnean set looks dapper I don't see any of my toons, including my Worgen, using that as their mog. I mean they now have the professions gear we wear when gathering/crafting, it'd be awesome of when we're just chilling in a Inn or a safe city we have the option of wearing "civvies"......
Could be use in the world soul saga story. Maybe for Midnight.
To be honest, this is what you can kind of expect from a small patch and that's completely fine. You will never have a retake city siege if they are not the focus of a content patch, this is a side story, but I know what you mean.
we miss liam after sylvanas killed him.
Never forget, never forgive her.
This was a bit of a letdown.The story lines in Dragonflight are too much about love, family, friendship, forgiveness, acceptance, hold no grudges and forget the past. It’s like written for young children. Where’s the war and hatred? I’m not asking for things to become dark, gritty and edgy, but there’s gotta be some balance. The writers are playing it way too safe, and it makes things boring and bland.
Current writers hate the Warcraft IP and want to use it to preach morals and write out conflict because it's offensive.
I get a real Timesplitters vibe from the new facial animations mixed with the chunky cartoony aesthetic and, man, I really dig it. It’s my favourite kind of video game aesthetic.
tbh the whole scenario was boring.
It was just a bunch of scarlet crusades... Couldn't the alliance remove them from Gilneas? It was really necessary for the forsaken and the horde to be there? Just send the whole alliance and done..
Also Genn is a great character and a total badass, removing him from the scene and making a boring character like Tess Queen feels bad.
Genn is somewhere around 70+ years old at this point, let him retire, no need to get him killed on "random battleflied 5922" because his arthritis kicks in at an unfortunate moment
After watching this cutscene it dawned on me that Cairne and Varian were the only dads in the game who weren't...kinda shitty lol
Thrall seems to be doing good with his children, as well. He’s shown to be quite supportive of Durak.
@@Ultimaton100 omg I actually forgot he a daddy lol I wonder if we'll see them eventually.
*Has neglected his daughter for many years*: Here, have the kingdom.
This guy really winning the father of the year award
Tess is so beautiful in this cutscene. i would actually play as a human if their in-game models were revamped in this style
Nah Genn will always be king to me, but cool cinematic
Genn is cool because he's an extremely flawed person... unfortunately, that makes him a terrible king. Personally glad he's stepping down, he shines as an adviser and has a bad track record as a leader.
@@KorporateKotoo yeah everyone has flaws… at least a leader who is aware of his flaws and wants to fix them is the best leader
@@AlystraCurrentlyAFK that's what he's doing by stepping down, he's aware of his flaws and recognizes that he needs time to work on himself.
@@KorporateKotoo yep, why he was a good King in the first place. Though him stepping down is also understandable the fact that the dude’s in his like 80s
Never change, King Fuckups the Wolfman.
Been playing Worgen since Cata, and I am angry. Genn wasn't the best king, but he was the reason the Worgen survived. Sylvanas was evil, but she did not act alone... and now Tess is out "queen" and she isn't even a worgen. So much for our curse giving us strength. Plus... retaking Gilneas took... what? An hour? less? Disappointed.
Mimimi, do you play the worgen heritage questline? She must not be a worgen, litte child
@@Kyriae Lmao. What a life you live harassing people in comments below videos of mmorpg info site with your childlish cussing.
Did you play the heritage armor questline? It essentially ends with Tess understanding the worgen, learning what the curse really means, and being convinced that she should not become worgen, even tho the entire premise of the questline was that she was planning to make it happen against all advise
You know not every single Gilnean is a worgen right?
Is this pre rendered? If not it looks fantastic.
It’s semi-prerendered, they’ve been perfectioning this type of cutscenes, using “rendered” models in a non-rendered scenario, it’s actually amazing!
@@Gikasernot pre rendered, but the models have the same quality/are the same as the IGC ones
The number of Disney princesses is increasing, huh?
😂😂😂 Glad someone else noticed
Said Disney princess doing more for her people than her lame ass father who literally doomed his kingdom and all others by building a bigass wall and being an isolationist btw!!!
What is up with these main characters stepping down as faction leaders, first Thrall, then Anduin, and now Genn?
Thrall is only leading the orcs. And Anduin could be returning as king of the humans in The War Within.
I mean that's how being a leader works lol, no king rules forever right? We are getting WoWs new Avengers.
@@justinb7494 The MCU is dead.
@@cameronmcewen9666 I know Thrall came back as speaker for the orcs, but when he did step down as Warcheif to go off and get lazy in Nagrand he caused one of the worst chain reactions that led to many disasterous conflicts.
Better than just killing them.
Blizzard feels like they're pulling a Last Jedi and throwing away well developed characters because they're older. This was unsatisfying.
I'm shocked you didn't start screaming "Wooooooooke" or some such nonsense.
Reclaiming Gilneas just doesn’t feel satisfying when the Worgen’s most prominent character gets demoted at the end.
I get that Tess was the focus of the Worgen heritage quest, but most players haven’t interacted with her before this questline.
Woke isn’t the right term for this, it just felt forced.
@@DeusVultGamer Genn is old my dude. He's like 80 lol
@@vulkenite5476And? Turalyon is over 1000 years old. A fantasy setting gives a lot of flexibility.
@@DeusVultGamer And? I won't be surprised if Turalyon died/retired and his son took over. It makes sense.
Boring. Genn should be king
Crowley*
Im gonna call it this is one of best cutsceen in dragonflight
And yet another powerful female woman
What's with indian drama type of animation...They close their eyes for an hour to utter a sentence then move as if they are about to perform a Kamasutra
Well Tess has needed some focus and development, like, she's barely gotten any, it better not be at the expense of sacrificing Genn on the wheel of 'progressivism'.
Oh you already know every fragile person is going to assume that, not the fact Genn is in his 80s by this point lol.
@@justinb7494 Ok NPC
@@justinb7494 Velens thousands of years old and he still leads the draenei.
@@MrOrcshaman He's not a king and even if he was he doesn't have an heir after we killed his son lol. I wouldn't compare an alien who acts more of a spiritual guide to his people to a human king.
tessduin tessduin tessduin tessduin!
While it would be amusing, i dont think they're doing that if they wish to keep stormwind and gilneas separated. Then again, Lor'themar and Thalyssra are married nowadays so who knows.
No.
@@rafaelrodriguez-oc4ph If they can do it horde side then they can too in the Alliance.
@@rafaelrodriguez-oc4ph Yeah..Lor'themar and Thalyssra got canon because people on Twitter were all over the place with shipping them even though they make no sense together and the same thing happened with Mathias Shaw and Flynn. So I guess it could work with Tess and Anduin too, but I doubt people will ship those two more than they ship Wrathion with Anduin, so I don't really know 😅
blizz making soap opera since bfa lol
will world of 'war'craft ever come back?
Not unless they move the studio out of California and get a new team of writers.
What the hell is with his face why did they changed it
oh look more alliance bias while the Horde gets nothing.
horde has been 'nothing' since bfa, sorry pal
@@J.H_H so? Can still complains
I've been horde since vanilla, gave up on story team since shadowlands. They not gonna change lol@@099Nitro
Graymane will always be the king of Gilneas. Long live the king beyond the wall.
for Gilneas!
the .5 pathces have more satisfying story conclusions than the main story does lol
I’m actually glad genn isn’t taking the throne, he’s a terrible king 💀💀 he’s a lot better in an advisor position like he has been to anduin since legion.
What a complete nonsens, he's the only king that saved his Kingdom from the scourge, also he wanted to "get rid" of the orcs instead of closing them in camps which unfortunately didn't happened.
@@gilneanskizwiadowcaYou’re advocating for genocide, and Genn’s strategy of walling off the world effectively doomed Gilneas to the feral worgen.
@@Ultimaton100 orcs invaded Azeroth and killed many innocent people, so I don't see why humans should treat them with any mercy. Also how was Greymane supposed to predict that there was such a thing as the Worgen curse and that it would spread to humans? After all, in the beginning worgens did their job by stopping the plague.
Rather have Crowley as leader.
Does this mean he’s stepping down as king?
Yes
Best Genn cutscene to date. The Stormheim one comes close, but this is better.
IM NOT CRYING YOURE CRYING
If Tess were to be the new leader of the Gilneas, then she needs to become a Worgen in the not very far future. Genn himself said it the best: "Our curse is also our greatest gift." Being a Worgen but also a Human is what defines the Gilneans. As the future queen she has to understand the way we Gilneans master our ferocity
That was already covered in the worgen heritage questline. Literally exactly what you described
@@zombe08 Right, but she didn't actually become a Worgen, she simply experienced how it is to be one for a short amount of time, personally I don't think that's enough
Not every Gilnean is afflicted with the curse.
@@justinb7494 You are right, but a lot of them are, I think they'd feel less represented if the leader isn't a Worgen
@@countw4506And what of the Gilneans who are still fully human? Do they not deserve to have a leader of their own race?
Genn neglected her daughter so hard that she became a rogue... 😭
scarlets shouldve won tbh. wouldve been a neat little twist. then there could be a gilneas-based instance
Did they change genns voice actor. He sounded so different 🤔
actual good animation quality waow waow
damn tess is so pretty
ahh now I miss Liam... so a good character.... would be a so good leader of the Worgen and Gilneas! insteed of....
Next they replace Anduin for some distant relative of his and it will be woman of course.
@@personagrata111 Incel-Boy
We never saw anything of Liam other than him dead. And just because you have a problem with women, you little prick, doesn't mean it's going to be bad.
@@Kyriae I am so sorry you have to read that. I hope you're not too sensitive.
Liam had like 2 minutes of character development, back in cata, if you played the worgen starting zone. I would not say he was a good character. pretty generic dark fantasy crownprince stuff. Tess on the flipside was there and in stories since and in Legion and in BfA, filling out her repertoire as "the princess that gets overlooked" (to the point she actually uses stealth), actually wants to become worgen herself, proves she understands the worgen, etc. Tess is a well built up character imo.
A true king never steps down for no one until he touch the grave .. World of Womancraft
I really don't want Tess to be Queen to be honest. Genn wasn't perfect - but he is our King. Tess is not ready yet. We also should never forget the past. The Forsaken are the reason we have this situation in the first place!
Glory to Gilneas and *censored* to the forsaken.
agreed! Eff the freaking undead beasts@@gilneanskizwiadowca
Think that a sylvanas loyalist should have betrayed them at the end and killed the voiceless queen or something. Would have enraged wolf boy and given the cinematic some much needed “teeth”.
So the Uncrowned have a country now haha.
This was the cheesiest thing so far in WoW story-telling. Cringe overload with all the Disney bullcrap.
Not as cringe as the Avengers Assemble scene when Fyrakk and Alexstraza confronted each other.
Oh look, another Dragonflight cinematic where WoW characters LOOK SAD, and TALK ABOUT THEIR FEELINGS!
I'm kind of curious to see why Blizz are mixing up the leaders for the Alliance. Like the Night Elf one makes more sense, Tyrande and Malfurion have pretty much been getting railed by the lore department since BFA so understandable they want to have time for themselves - and Shandris has had a ton of spotlight recently. But the Worgen/Gilneas leader switching over to Tess and Genn passing his titles to her feels a bit meh, probably could of made more sense with a bit more character development and switching her over to leader after War Within. Unless the intent is to remove all the main characters from their duty so they are free to do whatever with them in this trilogy they are creating
Genn is olllld by now. He was wellinto adulthood when wc3 took place, + ca. 20 years, hes somewhere around 60-70 now, at least. given hes human, Id say its fair to let him retire
The Alliance is forming a council.
Great who's your future king? I wonder.
ugh! Calia is here....😮💨
Smash, next question.
Tess is now Tifa, what's not to like?
I probably would have liked this cutscene more if it wasn’t for all the hugging/feels cutscenes that came before it
Why does Blizzard write kings as if they’re angsty teenage girls? 2 kings have stepped down from their kingdoms now… this isn’t how kings of old act. What is this garbage?
The current writers don't know how to write manly men.
Man i miss the old Warcraft with war, death and killing not this heart filled lame bs.
It's an expansion epilogue u dingus. you'll get yours next expac
@@vulkenite5476What do you expect in the next expansion?
Is that a custom human face model I’m scared 🐱
Amazing.
Oh I see, she's got daddy issues
Another beloved male charcater ruined so a girl boss can rule. Bad agenda writing.
That girl has been heir to the throne for well over a decade.
@@Ultimaton100 She's still a nobody well after a decade. There was not enough character development and story for this moment. It came out of nowhere.
@@CaptainDope She’s definitely more familiar to rogue players who did the order hall campaign in Legion, but still her relative obscurity doesn’t change the fact she’s been the heir for some time. I agree her taking the throne here and now was unexpected, but it’s not part of an agenda is my only point.
Finally the coward king does something that actually benefits someone.
Literally every cutscene is just people being incredibly nice to eachother and I hate it 😂
What an utter waste - years we waited to reclaim Lordaeron, and we got that sh*t show of a prologue. Then, we finally get the reclaiming of Gilneas, the redemption, but we are yet again offered this - hardly a footnote.
Lordaeron belongs to her people, the Forsaken. The Alliance cannot “reclaim” something that was never theirs to begin with.
So many fragile “men” who can’t handle non-male characters having the spotlight in any capacity in these comments.
What amuses me the most is the fact that this is quite literally inevitable. Like it or not, Tess is Genn's heir after Liam's death.
@@rafaelrodriguez-oc4phExactly. This has been coming for a long time, well over a decade at this point. It’s not part of some new age political or social trend.
"Fragile men", you can't think of any other insulting words because you can't think for yourself don't you? Like most US liberal NPC.
If you've used some of your neurons, you would have seen that Dragonflight is full of women leads, men being replaced, and pushed that men are bad throughout the expansion, all to sate women neediness.
- Senegos killed to be replaced by Stellagosa
- Tuskarr female lead after Tuskarr male leader killed; tuskarr men act like they don't have any functioning brain cells
- Chromie and Zoridormi took stage instead of Nozdormu; Nozdormu was impotent throughout the expansion
- Vyranoth redeemed while male counterparts are evil
- Niffen, female lead
- Guardians of the Dream was full of female leads
- Centaurs: only male leader is evil, while centaurs quote "may you be blessed with daughters"
- Dragonscale Expedition, female leads; Wonder why Brann, an established and beloved lore character wasn't used, despite him being an expert on titan tech?
- Malfurion replaced by Ysera, for no good reason; Hell, Malfurion was so nuttered in favor Tyrande it's amazing how dumbed down the character is from his Warcraft 3 counterpart.
- Centaurs: only male leader is evil, while centaurs quote "may you be blessed with daughters"
Goodbye little NPC
@@Ultimaton100 Exactly, like these people are so paranoid of "woke" or sumtg like that till the point where they would imagining and mad at something that's not even "woke". Internet and news has f up so many people.
@@adianblabla Seems like bitching about women is the only thing you're capable of doing... Got a lotta nerve calling people NPCs jackass lol.
Here, have the kingdom (filled with repair bills) to you as my way of saying sorry.
more feelings crap
sigh
Genns voice n model looks off since Legion cinematics. Bloated
So why is Genn American but Tess British again?
Ah yes another strong independent female who don't need no man leader. They really are woke washing everything in this game
Snowflake
Edit: Just to make it clear I am calling Op the snowflake for apparently being so butt hurt that after a King abdicates his daughter became queen
wahhhh wahhh woman on screen wahhhhhh😭😭😭
Show me on the doll where the fantasy crownprincess hurt your manliness ~
Tess has been heir to the throne for about fourteen years at this point, ever since Cata. She was predestined to take over for her father ever since Liam died, so surely this can’t be that big of a surprise for you.
For the Horde !
do they even exist anymore?
It's giving 2018.
Bfa has ended years ago, get over it.
@@GOODCHRISTIANBOTTOM no
❤❤❤
Not Warcraft healing trauma
wait, who is this girl? I'm not too up today with the lore
Gens daughter
Genns dauighter, Liams younger sister, Crown princess of Gilneas and high ranking member of the Ravenhold society. Also, she had a... lesson... provided to her by Goldrinn (Wolf Demigod and Demigod patreon of the Worgen) about worgen-ness. She excelled at it, thus giving the worgen player accompanying her a neat new set of heritage transmog (with a dapper hat and everything!) :)
Genns daughter. We don't really see much of her until Legion where she's part of the rogues class hall and helps with some quests. Then for the Worgen heritage quest she's the main focus.
Who?
Ah yes "the world is changing" and the old white male cant change with it so he passes down the kingdom to an otherwise minor character who is obv going to be the strong female. Noone cares about change, warcraft fans are 30 year old dudes who want to see Genn and Gilneas destroy the forsaken and take back their kingdom not this bullcrap.
So long as they don’t destroy the Forsaken completely.
@@cameronmcewen9666 Bro the Forsaken were ruined in the story the moment they made Sylvanas the Jailer's sidekick. Warcraft lore is dead since BfA.
@@oddy2509 So you’re a crybaby?
@@cameronmcewen9666 They're already destroyed.
so...now what? we did the quest and nothing else to do on gilneas i wonder what wow developer team does most of the time this does not look like a work longer than a week for a big company