Nice for nostalgia, I guess. But isn't it a bit too much? We've literally spent an entire 10.1 including the raid, event, zone, world boss, etc.. fighting shadowflame and fire stuff. Now 10.2 again?
Extremely boring and lame reuse.. also we pretty much took care of them in an expansion.. now all the fire and shadowflame another bunch of flame themed enemies.. yet still this crappy reused content is better than the writing..
The creation of Ragnaros, who likely also once got corrupted by the shadowflame and became the old gods pawns, spread it like a wildfire, like a disease to the mind and spirit. Fyrakk likely using the very same source of power to twist druids and creation of the dream. As we saw one of the scenes were a grove guardian got twisted. Just like Ragnaros, Fyrakk is a pawn/tool too. And the void is using him to claim a part of the emerald dream, which if they suceed they seek to take it all.
0:57 i love the facial expression of that guard at the back there looking at Vyranoth and trying to comprehend her words with the same energy of like "that sign cannot stop me because i cannot read"
Her Voice Actress has learned some amazing chops. Just a few days ago the companion book for this Expak came out (War of the Scaleborn) and Alexstrasza is the narrator reading the Audiobook version, she's got some amazing voices for some of the younger characters.
I like how they have taken the Story, Alexstraza is not being played as the do no wrong queen but rather a fallible ruler that has realized the errors of her choices and legitimately wants to mend the bridges burned between Dragons & Primals. Vyranoth's development has likewise been fun to watch. she has slowly come to be an alli of azeroth while she may never forgive Alexstraza she has shown a willingness to put it in the past for the sake of both their peoples.
It would be better if they actually told us why the Titans are fallible. They’re waiting until the end to show us what the point of all this is, and so far it just seems like they’re whining about nothing.
@lordsetarurare "ally of azeroth" ?!?!?! When the frell has the evil vyranoth "EVER" been an ally to azeroth?!?!?! She has done nothing but destroy the ecosystem and murder dragons and non-dragons alike. Or tortured and demeaned and sacrificed dragons that don't do what her Old God masters say.
@@starropenisthe4th786 We don’t know what that is, or why it’s bad. Arcane influence has never been shown to have that kind of effect on living things. Only Fel and Void.
Vyranoth saw what Fyrakk has become and I’m certain she’s worried that Iridikron is doing something very, very stupid. The Ice Queen has turned to the only friend she has. I’m looking forwards to seeing how this alliance works out.
Well we did see him walking into a Void Rift with the silhouette of a female Blood Elf inside. Guess who we saw in BfA who ominously exited stage left through a Void Rift after possessing a Blood Elf?
@@th3grimreap3r69yeah I wouldn’t mind her being in general neutral to us like tolerant the new world but not being friends with us because that’s ALOT of baggage to be wrapped up in an expansion
@@th3grimreap3r69 Agreed, Vyranoth is a really cool character but there were 4 main threats in the Dragon Isles when we arrived. Djaradin, Infinite Dragonflight, Primals/Incarnates and Sundered Flame. The Sundered Flame is dispersed now that Sarkareth is dead, many of the Djaradin have made a temporary alliance with the Primals and the Infinite Dragonflight has recently entered the stage. Fyrakk is a great villain and I love a complicated villain like Vyranoth who is unable to let go of Alexstrasza's betrayal. This is how I see the future of the expac going. Iridikron comes back from the Void Rift he made with Xal'atath. He's also pissed to learn that Vyranoth has sided with the Aspects in his absence and that Fyrakk is (probably, by that point) dead. Xal'atath corrupts Vyranoth and she becomes an unwilling villain due to the corrupting influence of the Void. Iridikron is betrayed at the last second by Xal'atath who will then transform Nozdormu into Murozond. A raid fight ensues where we either kill Murozond or aid the Aspects/Chromie in turning him back (I hope Murozond dies though, Nozdormu is a great character but this would be a fitting end for him). Xal'atath escapes and we are then led into a Void-themed expansion
@@darkydrone then you and OP can jump on the same train. Blizzard bots are drolling over Primal aspects and their "personalities" while all they said was 2 sentences. Until now, in 10.1.7 They added 3 more! Yes!
In shadowlands, sure. BFA had character development. It just had a pants-on-head stupid plot and then shadowlands had less character development and an even worse plot.
Argh! Called it the moment she was revealed back during the forbidden reach cinematic. She was gonna have a moment where she realizes she was a baddie. THAT or she will “help” alextraza then backstab her when she least expects it.
I suspect there will be a moment when her and Alexstrazsa are having discussion on fate of their children (one twisted by titans, other by orcs). But I like the idea of having temporary truce, which ends up in being enemies again (possibly better than Horde/Alliance frenemism)
I don't think she was ever really a baddie. Certainly not from her perspective. She's just realized the other incarnates have become evil so she can't stand with them anymore. Really it's Alexstraza who realized she was a baddie and came around.
@@farigos4127they should stick to keeping someone a permanent ally instead of having them backstab us or kill them off. Vyranoth was my favorite of the primal incarnates. Fyrakk was too evil and quick to kill, and Iridikron was too cold and calculating. Raszageth was interesting.
I dont trust Vyranoth. This whole faceturn story could also be a trap in my opinion. While Iridikron an Fyrakk do their thing, Vyranoth sneaks into the aspects trust.
I think it's hilarious that the Valdrakken guards are surrounding Vyranoth. Considering she's on par with Fyrakk even after he took on the Shadowflame means that they're like ants trying to hold back a stampede
I think Vyranoth just sees the Titans as not being as good as everyone makes them out to be and she believes that the Titans real purpose is for Azaroth to be destroyed when the world soul becomes a Titan, which goes against Vyranoth's purpose to protect the world. She sees the Titans as liars and deceivers who corrupted the Dragonflights to a false purpose.
Oh wow, that was sort of unexpected (Vyranoth). I had a feeling she would let her know about Fyrak but I didn't think she will become an ally. I LIKE IT
I just hope Vyranoth sticks around and doesnt get killed in some "heroic" scene to save someone. Anytime a villian goes good I feel like thats the path most games take
There's been an empty spot to the left of Alexstrasza on top of Valdrakken perfectly fit for a dragon to sit in since the beginning, I hope we'll see Vyranoth sitting there soon
Either that or I’m hoping she’s truly neutral to the new world. Her hate is only towards the titans and other outsiders so the alliance to temporary mostly to see if he can be saved and she need direct allies. I would like her to be neutral at best like don’t expect her to go completely out of her way to help but will when she needs to.
I don't play wow anymore but still keep up to the story and this cutscene is getting more exciting, can't wait to see what happens next! The writing is getting good in this story
Not really.. if you would actually play you would know that main characters ignore main event they were part of ..Wrathion and Sabellian not reporting the old god stuff they just faced.. Akexstrasza ignoring events and moving on with other things regarding the blues.. they clearly switched up the order of quests and cinematics.. and ofc they didnt reveal much so we have a good reason to go against the primals ..actually ingame they made it clear that they have every reason to do what they are doing and the titans are not the good guys at all.. yet our character has no choice but to go and kill the primals- Same old lame storytelling ..makes no sense we do the bidding of the aspects in this scenario..
RIP Vyranoth, you almost were a character Joining the multitude of others that was sacreficed on the altar of "narrative". It's the same BfA bullshit all over again -_-
Now that is a rare change of heart. None of us were expecting Vyranoth to turn against the Incarnates at all. But.. this is a rare yet welcome surprise.
Yeah not.. she is probably introduced to be sacrificed when the time comes so we wont lose another aspect.. Also with all the lore changes they made it clear we should side with the primals but ofc we dont have the option so we are fighting some new "old" guys without asking any questions when its clear they are not in the wrong..
@@asodalis695I think story will be different somehow I believe Vyranoth will be a leader in some form because she’s already datamined to have her own spot in the seat of the aspects
00:08 that dragon in armour behind Alexstrasza have down syndrome? Don't get me wrong, I have nothing against this, I'm just asking out of curiosity :)
I think they are preparing and building up for an important choice for Alexstraza, one that she'll be forced to make once Tyr wakes up proper. Stand with Tyr, or stand with Vyranoth.
Why she did it? Why? Titans are conquers who made dragons their slaves. Alekstraza is coloborant who made deal with them. Primal dragons are not good or evil, they just lived on their planet as indians lived in America before europians arrived.
Such ignorants runs in this incarnates. If the titans ever return i highly doubt there is a single damn thing they can do. The titans can easily rally all the powerful titanforged even create a powerful weapons to empower them. The incarnates has the World's elements but the Titanforged has the Titans who can easily destroyed a planet without even trying. The next installation should be the Dragons (Incarnates) vs Titanforged (alliance). Let the horde have some rest they been through a lot. I feel bad for them.
I dont know man Vyrnoth becoming all too goody two shoes is kind of childish cringe man. Betraying Fyrakk is one thing , and then maybe go saying 'ill rid the titans my way'... but going all the way to join the dragons..... boooooring.
From someone who read the book. Vyranoth is technically stronger than her right now considering in the books she needed 4 boons from each flight and it still led to a stalemate with her aspect powers.
Love the character development for both of them, and I love the implication that Alexstrasza sympathizes wth Vyranoth because she watched her own friend (Neltharion) corrupted by shadowflame, too. They're both sisters who've lost their families :( I hope this alliance/hazy forgiveness doesn't mean Vyranoth is giving up on her ideals, though. She's a really cool character, and it would be interesting to have a good-aligned character who's openly critical of the titans and their motives.
lot of doubt in the air, Alexstrazsa now doubts the titans and their ways, Vyranoth doubts her siblings and the harm they want to cause. End of the day both want to protect their own kind, and their planet. The primals hate the titans because how they were locked away, but the core of what brought dragons together was fighting against the things that would destroy the world.
Its kinda hinted at that there is much more to the story ..but ofc its not revealed.. its clear the primals know what the actual plan of the titans is and what Azeroth actually is - spoiler alert - she is not a titan soul.. If the story would be realistic Alexstrasza would have joined Vranoth and not the other way around.. She is a slave to the titans and will stay that thanks to the treatment she and the rest of the aspects/flights got thanks to the titans. Probably the void is still just as bad but they are not the clear bad guys ..its either 2 bad guys of the story or the titans are even worse than the void. Anyways the things our character knows would lead them at least questioning some things ..and we definitely would go around to kill the primals because the whole story is fishy as hell and its pretty clear they are right even if they are using the wrong methods ..but then again they were locked away and pushed into a corner. The primals and elementals belong to Azeroth and they serve her ..thats why they fought the old gods until they got defeated one by one. The aspects are more busy serving the titans than protecting their own world ..but then again with the magical mindbending coctail they are soaked in even before birth leave them without a choice.
@@asodalis695 Gotta remember, just about every race on azeroth has been effected by the titans in one way or another in their development, from humans to tauren, from gnomes and dwarves to night elves and Drakthyr and dragons. Its kind of hard to give up on the idea that the gods you have respected all this time are infact the bad guys
@@asodalis695is this new lore or retcon? Because Azeroth was definitely a titan world soul. When magni was turned into diamond form, he became her voice, her “Speaker”. He can commune with her and actually listen to her voice. During Legion, when we end up in Argus, he mentions that he can hear Argus, a Titan, a voice similar to Azeroth. Also the night elves were transformed from dark trolls to their current form due to the arcane energies from the Well of Eternity which is literally her Azeroth’s blood/wound. Arcane=Titan.
3 expansions in a row (legion, bfa and shadowlands) outright confirm azeroth is a titan soul, and the lore for a long while has said she is one. Seeing as how hands off the titans have been with azeroth, and how the titan keepers have mostly done a house keeping job of things (odyn yeeting halls of valor ,and tyr intervening against galakrond and the old God forces aside), we need the scaleborn war book to explain things, as at the moment the incarnates started a fight right after galakrond was killed based on assumptions. I don't buy the whole "titans forced their magic on us" line, because the aspects gave their willing consent to be blessed, and the titan keepers set the aspects up with their new jobs then bounced (except for tyr who stuck around). That and the titans had already left, and potentially "died" by that point, so they cant have forced order magic on the dragons, and they didn't even have a physical connection to the dragons, their subordinates on azeroth did, and like I mentioned before tyr was the only one who stayed with them. Odyn had a hissy fit and left azeroth in protest to tyr helping them, and almost all the keepers were indisposed by the time the war of the ancients happened, which points to titan forces not being directly involved in azeroth's affairs. This is supported by the fact azeroth's defenders at that time where either tasked to defend the planet by titan keepers directly(the aspects), tasked to do so by elune (wild gods, granted they were indirect protectors by eonar's will via the titan watcher freya too), or of their own free will (pandarean). If the titans were directly involved, and alive, that war would have ended in 2 seconds, as amanthul solo killed yshaaraj by picking him up, so they'd have no problems personally turning the tables, and their war against the old gods showed their leuitanants were extremely strong. The aspects having free reign to do what they want, sake for the wild gods, counters the incarnates' claim they were forced
Not bad, but won't she abandon her principles just as much when she keeps working with her titanforged kin? I have not seen them willing to abandon their vows to the Titans, yet.
At least the story from the .0 patch is continuing along a line you can actually follow. It's not the tone I would go for, but it's functional. And that's a vast improvement over here.
so lame.. holy crap. How cool it would have been for Vyranoth to GTFO Alexstrasza after that cringe mini-speech. Like an "enemy of my enemy is my friend". But nooooo, we must unite the female characters against the male ones cuz 2023
I really hope they bring back Yogg’Saron for this expansion, we never defeated him, only Put him back in his cage, and now he’s the only Old God left that’s still alive, idk about Cthune tho but Yogg is Alice
i'm ok with this, but i want to her to go back to being a villain after this patch, or maybe make the titans or keepers villains or something to justify her ideology
Honestly I like this direction but I feel it's moving too fast. It feels unrealistic that Vyranoth could be convinced to team up this fast. I'd like it better if Alexstrazza first had to do something to prove she's willing to put the good of her people above the will of the Titans, and therefore earn Vyranoth's trust.
I don't think they had time to prove themselves. Fyrakk was literally on the verge of breaching the dream with the aid of the Druids of the Flame. Vyranoth wanted to stop her former brother's rampage more than anything and the best way to do that was through an uneasy alliance.
How long will Vyrinoth ally with Alexstrasza? Is she playing a subtle game of her own, to gain access to Valdrakken or maybe even the Ruby Life Pools? 🤔
Vyranoth is honest.. and she will be killed off. The sole purpose they introduced here is to kill her off so they dont have to kill another original apsects ..there is barely any left :D
Whoever decided to give Alexstrasza freckles is a damn genius.
damn yeah finally someone who says what has to be said!
she is awfully cute with those freckles
u sure its freckles and not makeup smudges?
Whoever gave Vyranoth diamond blue long hair is also a damn genius because i thought there was more ice spikes behind her spiky ice head
uwu
YAY! Finally! 🥰
Still waiting for war in warcraft.
I'm loving the return of the Druids of the Flame.
Nice for nostalgia, I guess. But isn't it a bit too much? We've literally spent an entire 10.1 including the raid, event, zone, world boss, etc.. fighting shadowflame and fire stuff. Now 10.2 again?
Extremely boring and lame reuse.. also we pretty much took care of them in an expansion.. now all the fire and shadowflame another bunch of flame themed enemies.. yet still this crappy reused content is better than the writing..
Who knows, maybe a certain Firelord will return... for a third time? XD
@@TheWieldofrost I am fully expecting them to show what became of Smolderon in 10.2 after his disappearance in BFA
The creation of Ragnaros, who likely also once got corrupted by the shadowflame and became the old gods pawns, spread it like a wildfire, like a disease to the mind and spirit.
Fyrakk likely using the very same source of power to twist druids and creation of the dream. As we saw one of the scenes were a grove guardian got twisted. Just like Ragnaros, Fyrakk is a pawn/tool too. And the void is using him to claim a part of the emerald dream, which if they suceed they seek to take it all.
0:57 i love the facial expression of that guard at the back there looking at Vyranoth and trying to comprehend her words with the same energy of like "that sign cannot stop me because i cannot read"
I really like Alexstraza's voice acting here. Sounds way more grounded than her usual over the top voice acting!
was thinking the same thing! for awhile there she sounded very "theater" compared to the others lol
Her Voice Actress has learned some amazing chops. Just a few days ago the companion book for this Expak came out (War of the Scaleborn) and Alexstrasza is the narrator reading the Audiobook version, she's got some amazing voices for some of the younger characters.
Finally Alexstraza speaking with backbone. I appreciate her toughing up.
when did she not??
She’s admitting that what happened 20 millennia ago is her fault.
Alexstrasza is having PTSD from seeing her old best friend go through the same family ordeal she went through with Neltharion.
I like how they have taken the Story, Alexstraza is not being played as the do no wrong queen but rather a fallible ruler that has realized the errors of her choices and legitimately wants to mend the bridges burned between Dragons & Primals. Vyranoth's development has likewise been fun to watch. she has slowly come to be an alli of azeroth while she may never forgive Alexstraza she has shown a willingness to put it in the past for the sake of both their peoples.
It would be better if they actually told us why the Titans are fallible. They’re waiting until the end to show us what the point of all this is, and so far it just seems like they’re whining about nothing.
@lordsetarurare "ally of azeroth" ?!?!?! When the frell has the evil vyranoth "EVER" been an ally to azeroth?!?!?! She has done nothing but destroy the ecosystem and murder dragons and non-dragons alike. Or tortured and demeaned and sacrificed dragons that don't do what her Old God masters say.
She knows the Incarnates need to be destroyed and she obviously regrets not helping the kaldorei during the War of Thorns.
@@Mrbluefire95they did say some of the stuff the titans did that made her hate them tho?? The forced titan influence on there eggs and stuff??
@@starropenisthe4th786 We don’t know what that is, or why it’s bad. Arcane influence has never been shown to have that kind of effect on living things. Only Fel and Void.
0:09 LMAO that face back there
Rofl what's going on there. love his pose aswell xD
Jojo posing
Vyranoth saw what Fyrakk has become and I’m certain she’s worried that Iridikron is doing something very, very stupid.
The Ice Queen has turned to the only friend she has. I’m looking forwards to seeing how this alliance works out.
+1 man i was sure with every cutscene bringing her closer to ally then enemy
Ye i guess she doesnt know what Iridikron did during the Mega Dungeon. Alexz will tell her for sure.
Well we did see him walking into a Void Rift with the silhouette of a female Blood Elf inside. Guess who we saw in BfA who ominously exited stage left through a Void Rift after possessing a Blood Elf?
It won’t last, obviously.
Loved the cutscene! And it seems we gained a temporary ally against Fryakk. Excited to see where this goes.
I just hope it is temporary tbh.
@@th3grimreap3r69yeah I wouldn’t mind her being in general neutral to us like tolerant the new world but not being friends with us because that’s ALOT of baggage to be wrapped up in an expansion
@@th3grimreap3r69fully agreed
@@th3grimreap3r69 Agreed, Vyranoth is a really cool character but there were 4 main threats in the Dragon Isles when we arrived. Djaradin, Infinite Dragonflight, Primals/Incarnates and Sundered Flame. The Sundered Flame is dispersed now that Sarkareth is dead, many of the Djaradin have made a temporary alliance with the Primals and the Infinite Dragonflight has recently entered the stage. Fyrakk is a great villain and I love a complicated villain like Vyranoth who is unable to let go of Alexstrasza's betrayal.
This is how I see the future of the expac going. Iridikron comes back from the Void Rift he made with Xal'atath. He's also pissed to learn that Vyranoth has sided with the Aspects in his absence and that Fyrakk is (probably, by that point) dead. Xal'atath corrupts Vyranoth and she becomes an unwilling villain due to the corrupting influence of the Void. Iridikron is betrayed at the last second by Xal'atath who will then transform Nozdormu into Murozond. A raid fight ensues where we either kill Murozond or aid the Aspects/Chromie in turning him back (I hope Murozond dies though, Nozdormu is a great character but this would be a fitting end for him). Xal'atath escapes and we are then led into a Void-themed expansion
She won’t do that we are firends I held her with I was priest
Actual character development. I missed this during BFA and Shadowlands.
We had amazing character development in BFA.
Jaina
Talanji
Derek
Calia
Kathrine
Saurfang
Boy-king
Sylvanas
I don't think you know what character development means.
@@darkydrone then you and OP can jump on the same train.
Blizzard bots are drolling over Primal aspects and their "personalities" while all they said was 2 sentences. Until now, in 10.1.7
They added 3 more! Yes!
In shadowlands, sure. BFA had character development. It just had a pants-on-head stupid plot and then shadowlands had less character development and an even worse plot.
IMO, still the worst character development was Yrel in WOD; from Slave to Exarch....She is not Spartacus lol
I knew it man. I love Vyranoth she's my favorite incarnate they better not pull a 180.
I bet they introduced her just to kill her off ..they wont kill more aspects..
Argh!
Called it the moment she was revealed back during the forbidden reach cinematic.
She was gonna have a moment where she realizes she was a baddie.
THAT or she will “help” alextraza then backstab her when she least expects it.
I suspect there will be a moment when her and Alexstrazsa are having discussion on fate of their children (one twisted by titans, other by orcs). But I like the idea of having temporary truce, which ends up in being enemies again (possibly better than Horde/Alliance frenemism)
I don't think she was ever really a baddie. Certainly not from her perspective. She's just realized the other incarnates have become evil so she can't stand with them anymore. Really it's Alexstraza who realized she was a baddie and came around.
I really wonder what will happen next. I fear Blizz will waste potential they created here and will make Vyranoth permanent ally to dragonflights.
@@farigos4127they should stick to keeping someone a permanent ally instead of having them backstab us or kill them off. Vyranoth was my favorite of the primal incarnates. Fyrakk was too evil and quick to kill, and Iridikron was too cold and calculating. Raszageth was interesting.
I dont trust Vyranoth. This whole faceturn story could also be a trap in my opinion. While Iridikron an Fyrakk do their thing, Vyranoth sneaks into the aspects trust.
Mommy Vyranoth joins us?
Glorious.
0:18 that dragon guy's face💀
This feels, to me anyway, more believable than if she'd just instantly flipped sides the first time she had doubts
True, but still could be better. But much better than Sylvanas "I do not serve" bullshit
@@farigos4127 The Sylvanas betrayal to Jailer was a bullshit if you didnt know anything about Sylvanas and didnt pay attention to the cinematic.
@@farigos4127You didn’t pay attention to that cinematic, did you?
I think it's hilarious that the Valdrakken guards are surrounding Vyranoth. Considering she's on par with Fyrakk even after he took on the Shadowflame means that they're like ants trying to hold back a stampede
She was not on par with Fyrakk. Watch it again, he was very obviously overwhelming her.
It’s really refreshing watching someone who was somewhat of a villain actually be persuaded to join the good guys.
I think Vyranoth just sees the Titans as not being as good as everyone makes them out to be and she believes that the Titans real purpose is for Azaroth to be destroyed when the world soul becomes a Titan, which goes against Vyranoth's purpose to protect the world. She sees the Titans as liars and deceivers who corrupted the Dragonflights to a false purpose.
Oh wow, that was sort of unexpected (Vyranoth). I had a feeling she would let her know about Fyrak but I didn't think she will become an ally.
I LIKE IT
It obviously won’t last. It would be lazy writing if it did. Unless she gets killed off at the end.
@@cameronmcewen9666 I can imagine the latter, she might die with Fyrak
Totally expected but kind of strange how she hesitated for 1 whole second, honestly expected a bit more to happen.
I just hope Vyranoth sticks around and doesnt get killed in some "heroic" scene to save someone. Anytime a villian goes good I feel like thats the path most games take
Shes gonna team up with Sylvanas randomly
this is going to make me giddy and I really hope more coop between them
I am sure that Iridicron foresaw the betrayal of Viranoth
Argh! The jailor probably told him lol
Dude…. She’s a Trojan horse. Guaranteed
Yes! Just don’t let anyone die!
I bet she is the stand in sacrifice instead of Alexstrasza..
I'm actually digging this direction tbh. I thought I'd hate the Vyranoth joins us against Fyrakk thing, but I'm actually fine with it.
God damn it accolonn Said and here it is😂😢
not only accolon said this
@@kyvanrae yeah but from all those i watch (quite a damned lot) he was 1st
There's been an empty spot to the left of Alexstrasza on top of Valdrakken perfectly fit for a dragon to sit in since the beginning, I hope we'll see Vyranoth sitting there soon
Now we will have the Lin Kuei Dragonflight!
i dont understand your logic
@@sheriffbot441 It's a mortal kombat reference. because vyra uses ice...like...alot
yup@@Off_Screen
Why did Blizzard have to make Alexstratza so hot😭
DAMN IT!😫
Interesting dialogue, but I doubt that Vyranoth can be trusted.
Either that or I’m hoping she’s truly neutral to the new world. Her hate is only towards the titans and other outsiders so the alliance to temporary mostly to see if he can be saved and she need direct allies. I would like her to be neutral at best like don’t expect her to go completely out of her way to help but will when she needs to.
Vyranoth= aspect of primal dragonflight by expansion end?
Oh she’s dyin
ye she ded
This is so bad. God damn. Return of BfA writing starting to show..
Stand with us
no
stand with us
k
Storytelling gods strike again at blizz
if there are also druids of the air earth and water like druids of the flame.
I don't play wow anymore but still keep up to the story and this cutscene is getting more exciting, can't wait to see what happens next! The writing is getting good in this story
Not really.. if you would actually play you would know that main characters ignore main event they were part of ..Wrathion and Sabellian not reporting the old god stuff they just faced.. Akexstrasza ignoring events and moving on with other things regarding the blues.. they clearly switched up the order of quests and cinematics.. and ofc they didnt reveal much so we have a good reason to go against the primals ..actually ingame they made it clear that they have every reason to do what they are doing and the titans are not the good guys at all.. yet our character has no choice but to go and kill the primals- Same old lame storytelling ..makes no sense we do the bidding of the aspects in this scenario..
RIP Vyranoth, you almost were a character
Joining the multitude of others that was sacreficed on the altar of "narrative".
It's the same BfA bullshit all over again -_-
Yea ..pretty lame they throw her away. But this can be expected because we already killed too many original aspects so we cant really kill more.
Most predictable plot of 2023
The only one that wasn’t predictable was shadowlands, and it was terrible
A bad bitch team up ❤
Now that is a rare change of heart. None of us were expecting Vyranoth to turn against the Incarnates at all. But.. this is a rare yet welcome surprise.
I presume that Vyranoth will now be made Aspect of the Protodrakes/Elements, a role sorely missing until now. I knew she'd come around eventually. ❤️
Yeah not.. she is probably introduced to be sacrificed when the time comes so we wont lose another aspect.. Also with all the lore changes they made it clear we should side with the primals but ofc we dont have the option so we are fighting some new "old" guys without asking any questions when its clear they are not in the wrong..
@@asodalis695I think story will be different somehow I believe Vyranoth will be a leader in some form because she’s already datamined to have her own spot in the seat of the aspects
00:08 that dragon in armour behind Alexstrasza have down syndrome? Don't get me wrong, I have nothing against this, I'm just asking out of curiosity :)
😂
I know I let your babies be turned by the Titans but won't you join me? / Yeah sure why not.
I like this. Really good vibe
They’re more humanoids than dragons as i see 🤯
Patch developers: That's right, this scenario makes us no need to create boss fight of Vyranoth :)
Not everyone needs to be a Raid boss
I think they are preparing and building up for an important choice for Alexstraza, one that she'll be forced to make once Tyr wakes up proper. Stand with Tyr, or stand with Vyranoth.
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So it's easy join now .... Join us please i will not fail
why should i ?
because i failed once i won't fail again
okey
this is lame
Why she did it? Why? Titans are conquers who made dragons their slaves. Alekstraza is coloborant who made deal with them. Primal dragons are not good or evil, they just lived on their planet as indians lived in America before europians arrived.
Considering World of Warcraft: The Last Titan takes place in Northrend, I believe Vyranoth will play a major role in that expansion.
Men baddies. Wimmen goodies. Are we ever gonna get to see Dragons being proper Dragons? Tired of this virtuous bullsh*t. Put the War back in Warcraft!
Such ignorants runs in this incarnates. If the titans ever return i highly doubt there is a single damn thing they can do. The titans can easily rally all the powerful titanforged even create a powerful weapons to empower them. The incarnates has the World's elements but the Titanforged has the Titans who can easily destroyed a planet without even trying. The next installation should be the Dragons (Incarnates) vs Titanforged (alliance). Let the horde have some rest they been through a lot. I feel bad for them.
I dont know man Vyrnoth becoming all too goody two shoes is kind of childish cringe man. Betraying Fyrakk is one thing , and then maybe go saying 'ill rid the titans my way'... but going all the way to join the dragons..... boooooring.
From someone who read the book. Vyranoth is technically stronger than her right now considering in the books she needed 4 boons from each flight and it still led to a stalemate with her aspect powers.
"Stand with us."
"Lolno"
"I'm serious 😠😠😠"
"Oh okay"
Wow story writing at its finest folks!
Extremely boring and predictable writing did anyone expect her NOT to switch sides?
So now she is good…
This is why MEN run the world. Once we pick a side that’s it!
The world of Azeroth is such a better place when women unite and lead!
/sarcasm off
It’s a female character of course she wouldn’t be a bad guy, only men can do that
Would love to see this as just a ploy by incarnates to get revenge.
It’s a trap!!! Alexstraza…. Vyranoth is a Trojan horse….
Love the character development for both of them, and I love the implication that Alexstrasza sympathizes wth Vyranoth because she watched her own friend (Neltharion) corrupted by shadowflame, too. They're both sisters who've lost their families :(
I hope this alliance/hazy forgiveness doesn't mean Vyranoth is giving up on her ideals, though. She's a really cool character, and it would be interesting to have a good-aligned character who's openly critical of the titans and their motives.
lot of doubt in the air, Alexstrazsa now doubts the titans and their ways, Vyranoth doubts her siblings and the harm they want to cause. End of the day both want to protect their own kind, and their planet.
The primals hate the titans because how they were locked away, but the core of what brought dragons together was fighting against the things that would destroy the world.
Its kinda hinted at that there is much more to the story ..but ofc its not revealed.. its clear the primals know what the actual plan of the titans is and what Azeroth actually is - spoiler alert - she is not a titan soul.. If the story would be realistic Alexstrasza would have joined Vranoth and not the other way around..
She is a slave to the titans and will stay that thanks to the treatment she and the rest of the aspects/flights got thanks to the titans. Probably the void is still just as bad but they are not the clear bad guys ..its either 2 bad guys of the story or the titans are even worse than the void.
Anyways the things our character knows would lead them at least questioning some things ..and we definitely would go around to kill the primals because the whole story is fishy as hell and its pretty clear they are right even if they are using the wrong methods ..but then again they were locked away and pushed into a corner. The primals and elementals belong to Azeroth and they serve her ..thats why they fought the old gods until they got defeated one by one. The aspects are more busy serving the titans than protecting their own world ..but then again with the magical mindbending coctail they are soaked in even before birth leave them without a choice.
@@asodalis695 Gotta remember, just about every race on azeroth has been effected by the titans in one way or another in their development, from humans to tauren, from gnomes and dwarves to night elves and Drakthyr and dragons. Its kind of hard to give up on the idea that the gods you have respected all this time are infact the bad guys
@@asodalis695is this new lore or retcon? Because Azeroth was definitely a titan world soul. When magni was turned into diamond form, he became her voice, her “Speaker”. He can commune with her and actually listen to her voice. During Legion, when we end up in Argus, he mentions that he can hear Argus, a Titan, a voice similar to Azeroth. Also the night elves were transformed from dark trolls to their current form due to the arcane energies from the Well of Eternity which is literally her Azeroth’s blood/wound. Arcane=Titan.
3 expansions in a row (legion, bfa and shadowlands) outright confirm azeroth is a titan soul, and the lore for a long while has said she is one. Seeing as how hands off the titans have been with azeroth, and how the titan keepers have mostly done a house keeping job of things (odyn yeeting halls of valor ,and tyr intervening against galakrond and the old God forces aside), we need the scaleborn war book to explain things, as at the moment the incarnates started a fight right after galakrond was killed based on assumptions.
I don't buy the whole "titans forced their magic on us" line, because the aspects gave their willing consent to be blessed, and the titan keepers set the aspects up with their new jobs then bounced (except for tyr who stuck around). That and the titans had already left, and potentially "died" by that point, so they cant have forced order magic on the dragons, and they didn't even have a physical connection to the dragons, their subordinates on azeroth did, and like I mentioned before tyr was the only one who stayed with them. Odyn had a hissy fit and left azeroth in protest to tyr helping them, and almost all the keepers were indisposed by the time the war of the ancients happened, which points to titan forces not being directly involved in azeroth's affairs.
This is supported by the fact azeroth's defenders at that time where either tasked to defend the planet by titan keepers directly(the aspects), tasked to do so by elune (wild gods, granted they were indirect protectors by eonar's will via the titan watcher freya too), or of their own free will (pandarean). If the titans were directly involved, and alive, that war would have ended in 2 seconds, as amanthul solo killed yshaaraj by picking him up, so they'd have no problems personally turning the tables, and their war against the old gods showed their leuitanants were extremely strong.
The aspects having free reign to do what they want, sake for the wild gods, counters the incarnates' claim they were forced
So predictable. Not the best story telling.
Another villain changing sides... boring
Sooo good...frozen lady... She just lie...
2/10 writing, 3/10 voice acting.
world of warcraft : for a modern audience
Brought a tear to my eye :.)
redemtion arc after 1 patch....
oh fyrakk gona be really insanely mad
I‘m here for it!
Not bad, but won't she abandon her principles just as much when she keeps working with her titanforged kin? I have not seen them willing to abandon their vows to the Titans, yet.
At least the story from the .0 patch is continuing along a line you can actually follow. It's not the tone I would go for, but it's functional. And that's a vast improvement over here.
Wtf is this , lazy writing and the good o she was bad, but now she good like every other villain
Yay for the good guys! If that's Cenarius, i hope Fyrakk dies next.
Predictable.
Mommy showdown
Man if Vyranoth was a traitor, she sure just got access pretty easily is all I'm sayin
Why do i have a feeling that she will die for joining the Aspects..
OMG YES
so lame.. holy crap. How cool it would have been for Vyranoth to GTFO Alexstrasza after that cringe mini-speech. Like an "enemy of my enemy is my friend". But nooooo, we must unite the female characters against the male ones cuz 2023
She will double cross them. Her beef is with the Titans.
well that was an extremely quick turn-around
i knew she would become a ally so predictable xD
I really hope they bring back Yogg’Saron for this expansion, we never defeated him, only Put him back in his cage, and now he’s the only Old God left that’s still alive, idk about Cthune tho but Yogg is Alice
Alive
I don't trust her one bit, all of this could be a trap .
ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhaahahhahahahahahaha
i'm ok with this, but i want to her to go back to being a villain after this patch, or maybe make the titans or keepers villains or something to justify her ideology
That can happen if the Titans went Dark on their path or the Void Lords succeeds aganist them. For now they are busy containing sargares.
Honestly I like this direction but I feel it's moving too fast. It feels unrealistic that Vyranoth could be convinced to team up this fast. I'd like it better if Alexstrazza first had to do something to prove she's willing to put the good of her people above the will of the Titans, and therefore earn Vyranoth's trust.
I don't think they had time to prove themselves. Fyrakk was literally on the verge of breaching the dream with the aid of the Druids of the Flame. Vyranoth wanted to stop her former brother's rampage more than anything and the best way to do that was through an uneasy alliance.
How long will Vyrinoth ally with Alexstrasza? Is she playing a subtle game of her own, to gain access to Valdrakken or maybe even the Ruby Life Pools? 🤔
Vyranoth is honest.. and she will be killed off. The sole purpose they introduced here is to kill her off so they dont have to kill another original apsects ..there is barely any left :D
wOw, so much love for Vyranoth! ♥
So its the enemy of my enemy is my friend sort of truce.
ok one less raid boss to fight
Lame AF
"...............................................................M'kay" - Vyranoth
So she's on our side now?