Daniel Jones is who he is. The GM gave him that money. Just because he makes that amount I can't expect him to perform to that level, because he never has. This is on Giants leadership. If you gave me $160 million dollars, I will never ever in my life be able to perform like Patrick mahomes, Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson. Why? Because I am not that skilled. Neither is Daniel Jones.
There are 2 things 1) jones needs to go 2) Mara needs to step aside. An independent consultant has to come in and hire a president of football opps to make all hiring decisions. The giants won't be competent until Mara is done making hiring decisions.
That's what happened after that "Miracle in the Meadowlands" debacle in '78. Wellington stepped aside and George Young was brought in with full control of the football operation, and that began the rebuilding process that brought about the Super Bowl XXI and XXV teams. I'm not so sure how much John Mara really has to say regarding personnel conditions. I think a lot of this has to do with Joe Schoen's drafts/FA signings (like with DJ) not working out. Of course John Mara hired him!
He missed TD throws deep lime come on we all don't see this he used be so connected with Slayton ON the deep ball and the reason they won't play Hyatt because Jones will look bad on tape missing him deep , no Diddy! With under thrown passes , the Giants medical staff knows that's , so does Daboll that's why all the play calls are game manager plays to Maleek short passes to eventually get him killed
We deserve at least a very good quarterback, if not elite! I can never understand, settling for mediocrity or lower. They could’ve had SB and tagged Jones that was the move!!
Apparently that was their first move. They tried to sign saquon mid year AND in free agency so they wouldn’t have to extend DJ and could just tag his ass and make him prove it. Saquon didn’t wanna play ball, and they panicked about to lose Jones for nothing.
thats my issue.we lose a lot of these games by 1 or 2 off plays..If we can't lean on the QB to give us those 1 or 2 plays that get us over the hump then he's not the guy
Sitting on my couch I understand that you have to spread the ball more. You’d think a Duke guy would have caught on by now. And Schoenberg should have had a better backup plan than Drew Lock.
I would be ok with a Cam Ward or Carson Beck as the future qb but this roster also needs a solid veteran i.e. Cousins or Minshew to allow for a smooth transition and not blow up the roster again.
I remember the December 5, 1982 game vs the Oilers. Archie Manning threw an eight yard touchdown to Dave Casper to put Houston ahead 14-3. This was in the fourth quarter. Then the defense and Brunner went off. George Martin sacked Manning. Then LT sacked him in the endzone for a safety. Brunner threw two tds to rookie running back Butch Woolfolk giving Giants the win.
Jones is what he is a QB who skills level is not of NFL talent level it's time to clean house Gm shoen and Hc Deboll its time to move time to move forward with a new regime to rebuild this team
Tim: A few reasons for the "dumming" down of the fan base; social media, broken families, and other distractions such as video/computer games. Social media whre any opinion can be put out there without consequence. God for bid you disagree you become a "hater", "a nazi", etc. Intelligent debate is not allowed on social media. Also "intelligence" is measured by the number of likes or followers you have, and not intelligence or critical thinking. Broken families. Sitting down with on'es father watching the game. Knowledge is passed down to the next generation. I recall going to games with my friend's dad, and talking about the game. Also talked about Giants past prior to the game at the tailgate parties. Therree weren't any "participation" trophies. Excellence was rewarded. Video games and computer games. Sometimes technology is bad. When you can win money playing a video/computer game how can sports win? hildrenchildren, in most cases, rather play a video/computer ga than spend the three hours watching a game. This of course leads to the previous arguement. T. Brad said it best yesterday, "People are satisfied with average." "Participation" trophies are a part of it. No longer striving to be the best is part of it. Bad examples are part of it. Acceptance and glorification of bad behavior is part of it. Government handouts are a part of it.
The point was due to playing the video/computer games it is another example whre football knowledge is not being passed down. I am not saying the froduct is any good, but if you don't have (not saying you specifically) football knowledge and history you get what is going on right now. David Brown, like Tim said, has the same playoff record. What Tim did not say was that David Brown did it within his first three ears of his career; not year 5 like DJ. I am in no way saying David Brown is a good QB, but we knew garbage when we saw it. A certain segment of the fan base has no clue what garbage is.
Lol 😂what he's saying is so true Dave Brown was the worst thing I've seen at a starting NFL I like Danny Kanel better because he had a cool name 😂 I use to call him DK dirt 😂
This sucks for this guy(Jones). He used to have a decent long ball. What happened? You don’t just lose that. With that said whether it be received, tight ends, running backs have all dropped huge passes this guy has put in their hands in big time spots. It just wasn’t meant to be.
@@Thurmanatr16 yeah but that could be said about a lot of quarterbacks. Big time quarterbacks miss deep balls. They miss short to intermediate also. But because the “ team” wins they’re not under a microscope. Honestly we all know jones isn’t gonna be here next year. It’s no big secret. So while he is just trying to and support the guy. It’s easy to kick someone when they are down. Let’s try and do better. Enough with burning the jerseys, and everything that comes with that.
He is who he is. He's good but not good enough. If u want to make occasional playoffs maybe DJ is the man but if u want to win SB he is not the man. Money wise, thats the price for QB these days. He is not making $60mil/yr
Love ur statements. In 2018 it’s so sad we wasted Eli’s last good season I mean he wasn’t the same after 15 in my opinion but however Eli did throw for 20 touchdowns in 2018. The offense in 2018 was good unfortunately the defense was god awful in the final years of Eli playing. I’m tired of DJ it’s year fucking 6 enough id how Dj still had a job. Missing Nabers and his play markers wide fucking open and getting Nabers killed in the end and the under throws like are u seriously! It’s sad that the Giants were moving down field pretty good and had more yards and passing yards and the Giants lost this game! It’s is completely embarrassing. One week is we don’t have a kicker, one week is the defense and then other week is the Giants offense. It’s year fucking 6 move on from DJ and let Joe and Daboll get there own QB
What a total load of crap. Eli Manning couldn't carry this team. Look at his last few years with the Giants. Finally he just gave up. How many teams win when their running back get 1 yard per carry? Who had drops at critical times? Which wide outs didn't make plays that could have won the game? I can think of two. This is essentially a new team this year. You can see the offensive line coming together. You can see the offense has the ability to control the clock. You can see Jones and the wide outs starting to know each other. What you don't see is a big time pass catching tight end who can pick up 10 yards across the middle. I can tell by the comments that some of these guys don't know much about football. I've been a Giants fan since 1957. Yes, Shofner, Robustelli, Gifford, Huff and the rest. I've seen QBs a lot worse win super bowls. The Giants took a big step forward this year but they are still half a dozen players from being at that level. How many pro bowl players do you think are on today's roster? Blow up the coaching staff and roster? Dumb.
I’m gonna be that hopeful delusional giants fan…. Who says let’s keep DJ and have a losing year in 2025 also so we can try to get arch 🤣. I’m okay with another shitty year next year if we got someone like arch. But chances are we draft a guy in round two or something next year. Or reach round 1 for an OK qb class this year 🤦♂️
Sad to say QB Daniel Jones is a 'Broken QB". For the last 5 years Jones has been beat up by playing a bad Giants O-Line and many coaches changes. Get injured a lot. The NY Giants could easily turn QB Daniel Jones into a good QB with the right coaches like Eli Manning & Phil Simms. For the record the QB Jones didn't fail the Giants. The Giants failed QB Jones from the beginning of his rookie season. Now the NY Giants will toss Daniel Jones like trash and get a new QB. That's business
They didnt ruin him his rookie year they ruined him when they hired a patriots coach and a dallas coach who gave zero shits about the giants organization
@@tebander956 From the beginning to now. Daniel Jones has worked with bad Giants coaches and bad offenses especially the bad Giants O-Line for years. This is just like Duke University, Jones had played in College.
(Parting gift from Barkley) Shout out to Barkley for locking in Jones for year 6. We were a Barkley injury or trade away from a top 3 pick. (New QB) TT/TD with Breida was the way.🫡
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Daniel Jones is who he is. The GM gave him that money. Just because he makes that amount I can't expect him to perform to that level, because he never has. This is on Giants leadership. If you gave me $160 million dollars, I will never ever in my life be able to perform like Patrick mahomes, Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson. Why? Because I am not that skilled. Neither is Daniel Jones.
You are nothing close to any nfl athlete who the fuck do you think you are lmfao
There are 2 things
1) jones needs to go
2) Mara needs to step aside. An independent consultant has to come in and hire a president of football opps to make all hiring decisions. The giants won't be competent until Mara is done making hiring decisions.
Yes! Mara has gotta get out of the way.
But will that actually happen?
That's what happened after that "Miracle in the Meadowlands" debacle in '78. Wellington stepped aside and George Young was brought in with full control of the football operation, and that began the rebuilding process that brought about the Super Bowl XXI and XXV teams.
I'm not so sure how much John Mara really has to say regarding personnel conditions. I think a lot of this has to do with Joe Schoen's drafts/FA signings (like with DJ) not working out. Of course John Mara hired him!
Well said Tim
Do people still think he’s good?
You are right.
We should've gotten Jaden Daniels 😭 he better than Jones now
Giants had no shot at getting Jaden with a healthy Barkley.😂
He missed TD throws deep lime come on we all don't see this he used be so connected with Slayton ON the deep ball and the reason they won't play Hyatt because Jones will look bad on tape missing him deep , no Diddy! With under thrown passes , the Giants medical staff knows that's , so does Daboll that's why all the play calls are game manager plays to Maleek short passes to eventually get him killed
well said
We deserve at least a very good quarterback, if not elite! I can never understand, settling for mediocrity or lower. They could’ve had SB and tagged Jones that was the move!!
at least
Apparently that was their first move. They tried to sign saquon mid year AND in free agency so they wouldn’t have to extend DJ and could just tag his ass and make him prove it. Saquon didn’t wanna play ball, and they panicked about to lose Jones for nothing.
@@assassin923ck45 💯
thats my issue.we lose a lot of these games by 1 or 2 off plays..If we can't lean on the QB to give us those 1 or 2 plays that get us over the hump then he's not the guy
@@ToneFury Yes, he definitely missed two or three deep balls, especially the one to slaton that could have put us over
Sitting on my couch I understand that you have to spread the ball more. You’d think a Duke guy would have caught on by now.
And Schoenberg should have had a better backup plan than Drew Lock.
I would be ok with a Cam Ward or Carson Beck as the future qb but this roster also needs a solid veteran i.e. Cousins or Minshew to allow for a smooth transition and not blow up the roster again.
Schoen should have gone after Baker as a bridge quarterback till he could have drafted a quarterback he likes.
tampa is happy
I agree with you 100%
thank you
Tim your new intro is better than DJ QB play
I remember the December 5, 1982 game vs the Oilers. Archie Manning threw an eight yard touchdown to Dave Casper to put Houston ahead 14-3. This was in the fourth quarter. Then the defense and Brunner went off. George Martin sacked Manning. Then LT sacked him in the endzone for a safety. Brunner threw two tds to rookie running back Butch Woolfolk giving Giants the win.
I disagree with a lot of what u say but I'm 💯 on board with this let's go knicks until 2025 draft
Cam Ward will be a giant
Giants are about to let you down again.😕
Schoen. Damn autocorrect
LOL
Jones is what he is a QB who skills level is not of NFL talent level it's time to clean house Gm shoen and Hc Deboll its time to move time to move forward with a new regime to rebuild this team
OH MAN!!! ITS SERIOUS BUSINESS IF HE'S ON VIDEO TO DELIVER THE MESSAGE!!! 👂🏾👂🏾👂🏾👀
OH YEA
I want to see the Giants Draft Jalen Milroe QB of Alabama.
he is looking interesting
Oh shitttt he did post it hehehehhe. Lets fucking go Cam Ward!!!
always LOL
You have a section of the fan base that hate him and the other section of the fan base that love him.
i do not believe that - there is no division - no one thinks dj is a good qb - this take is just made up click bait by this video
@@wuxin5847 My comment never said “DJ is a good QB”.
I made that suggestion so that wandale only has to break one tackler to pick up a first instead of three tacklers.
It wouldn't be a stretch to say Tyrod Taylor was the Giant's best QB in the current roster. They should have kept and started him.
It won't even happen when Jones is gone imo...the DJ lovers will absolutely hate any qb we get to replace him
i do not see any dj lovers - where are they - you are so ridiculous with this take
@@wuxin5847 you must not have a Twitter account....idgas about your uninformed take
great point
@@wuxin5847ever heard of the internet? They are everywhere now n social media.
It’s crazy to think if we had an actual nfl qb we are 3-1.
The experiment is over no bleeps and bloops all aboard the Malik Willis express
it was over three years ago
@onlinebigblue 👍needs to end now though
I think "Pick Six" Jones needs another 5 years to develop, and another 150 million dollars. Have patience.
only five more... LOL
I think it may happen under Mara.
Do you really have a Willie Beamen jersey ??????
silly question... of coursw
Infighting I don’t see no infighting?!? We don’t need no stinking badges!
Tim:
A few reasons for the "dumming" down of the fan base; social media, broken families, and other distractions such as video/computer games.
Social media whre any opinion can be put out there without consequence. God for bid you disagree you become a "hater", "a nazi", etc. Intelligent debate is not allowed on social media. Also "intelligence" is measured by the number of likes or followers you have, and not intelligence or critical thinking.
Broken families. Sitting down with on'es father watching the game. Knowledge is passed down to the next generation. I recall going to games with my friend's dad, and talking about the game. Also talked about Giants past prior to the game at the tailgate parties. Therree weren't any "participation" trophies. Excellence was rewarded.
Video games and computer games. Sometimes technology is bad. When you can win money playing a video/computer game how can sports win? hildrenchildren, in most cases, rather play a video/computer ga than spend the three hours watching a game. This of course leads to the previous arguement.
T. Brad said it best yesterday, "People are satisfied with average." "Participation" trophies are a part of it. No longer striving to be the best is part of it. Bad examples are part of it. Acceptance and glorification of bad behavior is part of it. Government handouts are a part of it.
only a few? LOL
Don't even try to blame video games dude. Better than watching this ass team and suffer through nonstop commercials and garbage TV.
The point was due to playing the video/computer games it is another example whre football knowledge is not being passed down. I am not saying the froduct is any good, but if you don't have (not saying you specifically) football knowledge and history you get what is going on right now. David Brown, like Tim said, has the same playoff record. What Tim did not say was that David Brown did it within his first three ears of his career; not year 5 like DJ. I am in no way saying David Brown is a good QB, but we knew garbage when we saw it. A certain segment of the fan base has no clue what garbage is.
Lol 😂what he's saying is so true Dave Brown was the worst thing I've seen at a starting NFL I like Danny Kanel better because he had a cool name 😂 I use to call him DK dirt 😂
and kanell made the playoffs
Let Brian Daboll get his quarterback for his system.
This sucks for this guy(Jones). He used to have a decent long ball. What happened? You don’t just lose that. With that said whether it be received, tight ends, running backs have all dropped huge passes this guy has put in their hands in big time spots. It just wasn’t meant to be.
decent is a good word
His deep ball was amateur hour versus Eli’s.
@@Thurmanatr16 yeah but that could be said about a lot of quarterbacks. Big time quarterbacks miss deep balls. They miss short to intermediate also. But because the “ team” wins they’re not under a microscope. Honestly we all know jones isn’t gonna be here next year. It’s no big secret. So while he is just trying to and support the guy. It’s easy to kick someone when they are down. Let’s try and do better. Enough with burning the jerseys, and everything that comes with that.
💯
Dave Brown a.k.a. The Quarterback Of The Future 😅
So unbelievably sick of this era. We are NOT winning with this guy. Enough
HIT THAT LIKE BUTTON 🍻
Because some fans think that another QB will get the team together they do not know shit about football or busiines
I can think of 40 million reasons why Jones is playing like shit intentionally.
He is who he is. He's good but not good enough. If u want to make occasional playoffs maybe DJ is the man but if u want to win SB he is not the man. Money wise, thats the price for QB these days. He is not making $60mil/yr
Love ur statements.
In 2018 it’s so sad we wasted Eli’s last good season I mean he wasn’t the same after 15 in my opinion but however Eli did throw for 20 touchdowns in 2018. The offense in 2018 was good unfortunately the defense was god awful in the final years of Eli playing.
I’m tired of DJ it’s year fucking 6 enough id how Dj still had a job. Missing Nabers and his play markers wide fucking open and getting Nabers killed in the end and the under throws like are u seriously!
It’s sad that the Giants were moving down field pretty good and had more yards and passing yards and the Giants lost this game! It’s is completely embarrassing. One week is we don’t have a kicker, one week is the defense and then other week is the Giants offense.
It’s year fucking 6 move on from DJ and let Joe and Daboll get there own QB
What a total load of crap. Eli Manning couldn't carry this team. Look at his last few years with the Giants. Finally he just gave up. How many teams win when their running back get 1 yard per carry? Who had drops at critical times? Which wide outs didn't make plays that could have won the game? I can think of two.
This is essentially a new team this year. You can see the offensive line coming together. You can see the offense has the ability to control the clock. You can see Jones and the wide outs starting to know each other. What you don't see is a big time pass catching tight end who can pick up 10 yards across the middle.
I can tell by the comments that some of these guys don't know much about football. I've been a Giants fan since 1957. Yes, Shofner, Robustelli, Gifford, Huff and the rest. I've seen QBs a lot worse win super bowls. The Giants took a big step forward this year but they are still half a dozen players from being at that level. How many pro bowl players do you think are on today's roster? Blow up the coaching staff and roster? Dumb.
I’m gonna be that hopeful delusional giants fan…. Who says let’s keep DJ and have a losing year in 2025 also so we can try to get arch 🤣. I’m okay with another shitty year next year if we got someone like arch. But chances are we draft a guy in round two or something next year. Or reach round 1 for an OK qb class this year 🤦♂️
Regardless he’s gone next year.
Sad to say
QB Daniel Jones is a 'Broken QB". For the last 5 years Jones has been beat up by playing a bad Giants O-Line and many coaches changes. Get injured a lot. The NY Giants could easily turn QB Daniel Jones into a good QB with the right coaches like Eli Manning & Phil Simms.
For the record the QB Jones didn't fail the Giants.
The Giants failed QB Jones from the beginning of his rookie season.
Now the NY Giants will toss Daniel Jones like trash and get a new QB.
That's business
broken is a good word
They didnt ruin him his rookie year they ruined him when they hired a patriots coach and a dallas coach who gave zero shits about the giants organization
@@tebander956 From the beginning to now. Daniel Jones has worked with bad Giants coaches and bad offenses especially the bad Giants O-Line for years. This is just like Duke University, Jones had played in College.
@@onlinebigblue indeed
(Parting gift from Barkley) Shout out to Barkley for locking in Jones for year 6. We were a Barkley injury or trade away from a top 3 pick. (New QB)
TT/TD with Breida was the way.🫡
Bench jones he sucks we sucks