AirPulse A80 + Edifier T5 subwoofer vs Edifier S360DB || Sound Comparison
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- Опубликовано: 7 сен 2024
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-Sound recorded using pair of SE Electronics SE8 mics and Zoom H6 recorder
-Levels matched using SPL meter
-All tone controls set to neutral
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Could you compare these two systems in 2.0 mode, without the subwoofer part?
Imho, it will be more interesting and objective.
Tweaking could get them to sound a bit closer. Turning down the bass knob a few notches on the S360DB can help alleviate the boominess. If you find them too bright you can also adjust the treble which would bring the mids forward. The volume on the T5 could be turned up a tad to provide more bass presence in some songs.
Exactly what I thought and wanted to ask this question. But the Space Garbage has already been piled up)
Overall A80 is a hit. More natural sound.
It's also more expensive than the entire S360DB twice the price plus add another 150€ for the T5 sub.
A80+T5 has more broad and natural midrange, but slightly muted highs. S360DB has great highs(for someone too present), but everything else is dissapointing. Very narrow mids and boomy bass. V shape sound, which many consumers like - far from ideal. I was listening through Klipsch R-15 PM.
@ the s3000 pro is a multimedia speaker too. Says right on the back.
edifier s350db vs 360db ?? thanks very very much
For budget home AV, both S350db/ S360DB are great choice. But, for better audio quality, get the A100+T5 instead A80+T5. The different are the fuller low mid voice on A100 get mix better with T5. Unlike A80, it still lack fuller tone on low mid even support with T5.
Hopehelp
exactly my feeling
AirPulse A80 + Edifier T5 combo sounds better but would cost 1.5 times more where I live.
Airpulse i dont know..So before buying them I would think 2 times for a service issue. Good sound but bad service, speaker is not durable. The right speaker burned out after 5 months of occasional use with medium to low volume levels. Support is very slow to respond and does not have the necessary preparation to handle the fault. As an electrical technician I simply asked for a pair of 4.5" mid-woofers to replace but it is very difficult to have them. In addition, this woofer size cannot be found on the market because it is a custom made by the manufacturer.
Overall, I don't know whether to buy them again. This was my experience with this model, maybe other models are more realible.
S360 is reducing some mid frequencies quit a bit, so indeed A80 sounds a lot more natural.
День добрый! Подскажите , какой сабвуфер купить для AirPulse A80 цена/качество? Или отлично будет и с Т5?
Good afternoon! Tell me, which subwoofer to buy for AirPulse A80 price/quality? Or will it be great with T5?
Question i was wondering which sub is better the 360dbs sub or the t5 sub? would love to know what u think thanks.
Would love to see Focal Alpha Evo vs Tannoy Gold, the 5" Evos and Golds and then a different video is the Focal Alpha Evo 65 with either the Tannoy Gold 7 or the Tannoy Gold 8. That would be awesome!
Edifier S360DB for bass & hi's but Airpulse A80 + T5 for easy listening..
A80 highs are much closer to the original track!
Edifier S360DB good choise for PC/Music/Games/Films.
Swans M5A vs M3A mkii please... pretty much the best powered speakers out there...
Can you do s2000mkiii + T5 vs s360db ? Please
AirPulse A80 + Edifier T5 sounds better for me!
And I think that investing in the A80 and T5 is not justified, and it only sounds better than the low frequencies that can be turned down on the T5 itself. In this case, you need to turn off the SB360 phase inverter and the same effect will be achieved )
The main problem of these two systems is that they can not reproduce the lower middle of 100-200 hz, referring to the subwoofer, which in turn is not of the best quality and can not work out this frequency range without distortion.
@@P1ayerII you can turn down bass on S360DB too, it has bass knob (-6db - +6db) on right speaker, i know its not the same as on standalone sub where you can basically turn off bass with gain knob but you can adjust bass on S360DB but it sounds like bass knob is at 0db in this video
A good comparison!
Hi, will be compare in the future Edifier R2800 vs R2850?
Please do A100 + T5
Hi... is there chuffing noise from T5 port at louder volumes?
Mam nieodparte wrażenie, że od pewnego czasu pojawiła się w prezentacjach jakaś fala stojąca jakoś koło 70Hz.
s360db,the bass in "Mortals" sounds like in a cave,I play this song in my s350db the bass doesn't like that,they are all 8'' woofer and 70 watt, is it because s360db is wireless so the subwoofer sound is different from s350db?
It is more about the acoustics of the room than the subwoofers' performance
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A100 + t5 please.
Hi DS Audio, thanks for the video! I currently have an A80 + T5 combo because of your videos . Just wanted to ask, what is the LPF that I should set (general rule of thumb) to compliment the A80 speakers? Im still new to all of this.
70Hz work well for me
@@DSAUDIOreview Thank you for the answer! Really appreciate it. What about the Bass on the A80 speakers itself? Do i keep it at -3db?
Try to keep it neutral at 0db
Same here, I got A80+T5🤣🤣very happy with it~
Is it possible to compare Airpulse with KEF LSX or LS50 Wireless? Thank you for the great comparisons you do.
I plan to test LSX soon. A80 will be one of challengers
@@DSAUDIOreview
Thank you, will be interesting.
@@DSAUDIOreview LSX vs S3000PRO/S2000MKIII?
@@rdolle990 +1 for the s3000pro vs lsx
Mucho mejor edifier s360db todo claro,porfavor podrias hacer uno sobre airpulse a 100 + t5 ??
Hi sorry for ask . I did bought a T5 & a80
, but T5 is not work when I use RAC sub out from a80, did I miss something ?
I have the same problem
add a bit more bass on T5 bass gain and turn down bass knob on S360DB to at least -4 or -5db
and do comparison S360DB 2.0 vs something for example R1700BTs
Walter it is not as simple as you try to make it look. There is one big problem you forget about and it is the crossover point between the satllites and the subwoofer in S360DB set at 160Hz. When you start to trim the bass of S360DB you trim all the frequencies below 160Hz, not only the low bass.
S360DB had bass set at "0" because, for one it is the way I do my comparisons (neutral settings) and also because when I dialed the bass down so that the midbass was less prominent than all the low bass was gone as was most of upper bass.
In A80 + T5 combo I was able to get much more linear response because T5 was filtered above 70-80Hz and the A80 was in neutral settings as it would be. This allows for much better integration of sub/sat system and moche more "true to source" sound.
Hope that helps
@@DSAUDIOreview yea i dont know why they tuned it like they did but turning down that bass helps a lot in this case
im just saying that from my own experience and no one who buy these speakers and would have them in smaller room, would leave that bass knob at 0 because its too much bass so im just trying to say that you should test them in more real life use scenario
btw this is an extreme example with S360DB but i think you should test all speakers in their best setting, i mean if speakers have bass, treble knobs or whatever then adjust them to their best, those knobs are there for it, or in case of S3000PRO where you have different modes, you should test them in mode that sounds the best or even do a comparison video when you compare those modes
and if you dont want to use any knobs or any feature or something that are part of those speakers and test everything in "out of the box setting" then ok, i just dont understand that why not use something that is part of those speakers, its like you are robbing yourself... but ok its your way of doing this and you wont see any other comments from me on this theme / issue
i can give you another example of very expensive speakers that does not sound that good out of the box from what i heard in reviews (i mean they sound good but not as something special which they are), Buchardt A500, but if you use features and settings that comes with those speakers, you will be blown away by that quality and you can jerk off to music :D
i have one question though, are you planning to test S360DB in 2.0 "mode"? but i think when you turn off sub they turn into different setting and it would not be like the same sound from satellites just without sub but im not sure on this, maybe im just tripping when suddenly low end is missing
@@wbishop testing with different tone settings brings too many variables so I will not sway from my way of testing. Sometimes I do settings comparisons though. S3000pro have a video with all modes tested, look it up.
I do not plan to test 2.0 version of S360DB. No one will buy full 2.1 system to use only the satellite speakers. That is nonesens
@@DSAUDIOreview i mean that 2.0 test like for example someone would like to know if its better to buy complete 2.1 to keep it more simple i guess or buy speakers with sub output R1700BTs or R2000DB for example and add a sub, that would show how good are those satellites compared to others, that was my thought process
I agree with the way the test are done here. True the knobs are there for finer turning of the sound but as a test they should remain in the neutral settings..
where is the 200-800hz?
Eu tenho um S360DB. É bom, mas não é o som que me agrada. O meu está semi novo. Uso pouco. Deveria ter comprado o R2850, que é em 3 vias e tem um som mais natural....
Can you do Edifier S3000 pro vs Airpulse A300 pro? Or at least S2000 mkiii vs A300 pro.
It is impossible at the moment. I do not have acces to neither S3000Pro nor S2000MKII
@@DSAUDIOreview I understand. Can you make a comparison from what you remember please?
A300Pro is far above both. It has more natural, extended and transparent sound and far superior soundstage
@@DSAUDIOreview that’s obvious, for the price. I miself have S3000 pro and just got S2000 mkiii and find the S2000 more open, more detailed, faster, more extended highs, more linear frequency response, and the imaging leagus abouve. I have a hunch that Edifier changes the sound in different revisions of the speakers, it’s kinda the opposite of what i hear from your comparison on the channel. It’s not such an unusual thing, unfortunately, to have different sound revisions of speakers/headphones.
@@ionescugeorge2003 obviously Edifier tweaks the sound with every new iteration. I agree that S2000MKIII sounds more natural and transparent than S3000pro and would be my choice between those two for most of applications. Regards
How do you connect A80 with T5? Do you connect T5 using sub out port on A80, or you connect audio signal to T5, and connect A80 to T5?
A80 -> T5
Edifier S2000MKIII or Edifier 1700BTs + T5 - Which one would you say is better?
Both for music and films - taking into account that the price of both combinations are the same.
I am watching all the comparisons, including this one to see the performance of T5 and I am struggling to decide. :--)
Love your channel!
For me S2000MKIII would be an easy pick
@@DSAUDIOreview Thanks for the reply!
I currently have the 1700BTs, and while I like them, I feel like they lack a bit of bass.
I really enjoy a bass that can be felt, but I also do not want to throw off the balance of the speakers for that.
Do you feel then like the S2000MKIII covers well the bass part?
@@peterpeter8462 yeah, S2000MKIII has very nice bass going into low 40Hz. There will be less boom down low compared to T5 but the quality of bass will be much better. Plus much better midrange and treble
@@DSAUDIOreview I think it would be silly of me not to follow your advice after so many tests and experience :) Thank you very much, really appreciate your work.
Good luck and let me know how you like them!
why Edifier S360DB right speaker is on the left ?
Because it can ;)
So?
Хорошие сравнения!
Are the subs identical?
I guess the speaker drivers are very similar T5 70watt, s360db 70watt. I can say from experience owning both the T5 and s350db (both have 70watt subs), the subwoofer of the s350db sounds better more controlled I think it's because of DSP correction, the T5 subwoofer sounds less controlled and can sound a bit unnatural and more difficult to blend in with the speakers (but that's just my opinion, the difference is small though).
Оба варианта не фонтан, саб своим гудением задавливает звук, но вариант с А80 лучше по средним частотам.
по высоким тоже
Is that aipulse from Edifier Company ?
Yes
I'm currently using s880db + T5. A80 + T5 sounded similar to my system. But the s360db is definitely much more on the bass, too much i guess, and a bit thinner on the treble.
Can you explain more to connect s880db + T5. I have plan to add too
Thank you
S880db + T5 VS S360db
S880db + T5 VS S350db
Kindly please 🙏
S880db + T5 should be closer to S350db. S360db have much better twitters than S880db \ S350db.
S880db has no subwoofer output
WHat is the sound track when playing "Deep" ?
自问自答
S360db играет не хуже, имеет шикарный дизайн и меньшую цену. Ставлю 👍 s360db!
да по хуже уж играет 360. но если перевести в цена-качество звука, 360 лучшие.
Need you video R2850 + T5 vs S360
Thanks
T5 seems to kick lot less than 360s sub, I wonder if 360s sub was set at 0?
With 360s as well as 350s I feel like there's a dip in the midrange. Like a hard V shaped EQ.
A80+T5 sounds more like native song in the video.
Do both subs have same specs? What's the difference?
i have S360DB and i have it at -4db on bass knob and in EQ i have it 31hz: -1db, 62hz: -1db, 125hz: -2db, 250hz: --1 db and then its zero in the rest of EQ and 0 on treble knob, thats for close listening, if i crank up the volume and go away from PC then i turn down that bass to -5db on bass knob and boost treble a bit +2db on treble knob but those are normal adjustments close vs distant listening
in this video it sounds like that bass knob is at 0
T5 and the sub of S260DB have a very similar design and internals, but they operate in a different way. Subwoofer in S360DB has a high crossover point between the sattelies and the sub (160Hz I think) so the sub plays not only te lower and midbass but also the upper bass. It is very hard to get proper balance between the satellites and the subwoofer because of that.
T5 has variable cutoff point so You can adjust the system to sound much more linear and natural, hence the "true to source" sound in the bass response of A80+T5 combo
@@DSAUDIOreview good explanation, thanks. It is tricky when you have a fixed crossover point. I do think it sounds full because of higher crossover point, but it can muddy the mids. I get a that with my s350s.
They could make the Hz knob on s360 sub since their satellites do go low to 60Hz, but not with s350db their midbase driver seems less potent.
Edifier is a bit thinner on the treble, and muddier bass. Airpulse wins!
both made by Edifier
Ummm, feels like the S360db is overall worse than the 350db. The bass is just too overwhelming and covers a lot of mids and highs. In comparison 350db sounds a lot more balanced.
Terrible bad results, the basses are horrible.
I don’t understand, when we add a subwoofer to these little speakers, the filter management doesn’t change?? I mean the little speakers in this 2.1 configuration, they should stop to produce the low end frequencies to let the sub produce them no? I have the feeling this is absolutely not the case so the basses are still terrible wrong...
I don’t understand these configurations.
Yes, unlike Vanatoo which cuts bass, Edifier is just accumulating bass which results in a very unbalanced boomy sound. This can only be fixed with a really good sub and careful tweaking.
@@rdolle990 oh okay thank you, so I was right.
What a waste of money...🤦♂️
Salut from France 🙋♂️
Vinz.
@@1980VINZ any edifier speaker that has a sub out will cut out bass when you plug in a sub according to your set crossover.
Hi can anyone recomend some good desktop active speakers for listening to music , price range under £100.
Prefer a clear ,balanced ,accurate sound .
I dont like boomy or muddy bass or overly bright treble . I listen at low to medium volume .
Thank you
How do the s350db compare to s360db?
more or less same.
btw s350db has this issue hope s360db dosent have that ruclips.net/video/g--9jr4E3UI/видео.html
@@tahsin8296 that's sad is this a common issue with the s350db?
@@jmd6813 heard a lot of people have that
The 360 has way better tweeters.
Klipsch promedia 2.1 vs logitech 623
@ Klipsch promedia 2.1 is garbage. Mid bass drivers fail eventually and need replacing. Crappy amps crap out eventually. Pretty damn fun speakers while they last tho.
They are sound almost identical, but you can hear the high frequency more clear and wider when switch to Airpulse A80, since it comes with ribbon tweeter. That's why Airpulse cost more expensive than Edifier. Same company, but different in the term of sound quality. Airpulse is another luxury brand of Edifier.
AirPulse A80 + Edifier T5 +++++
A80 +t5 lacks deep bass.. but still sounds better than s360db
The s360 sounds so bad here. The Airpulse a80 hands down wins.
Господи как же выпычены на 360 вч!!! Ушам так противно это очень ощущается при переходе от а80 до 360..
Отвратительный звук выпячены вч + бухающий нч
Какой узкий узвук сцена так сильно сужена на 360 как будто там саттелиты с сч дином 2дюйма вместо 4
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Вот так бы 360 играли средину как это делает а80 была бы хорошая система, а так огромный провал средних.
Видимо их так настроили. Если правильно настроить думаю должны быть на уровне 80+t5
we want svs
S880DB+5T vs S360DB
Edifier S360DB в 2 раза дешевле и лучше!!!
Original sound wins, can I know which system? plz
акустика одного уровня с одинаковыми проблемами
С какими проблемами?
то и то это мультимедиа. у а80цена на 35% больше чем 360
@@user-01845 т.е. по вашему они играют хорошо ?
@@BossStrike что другое посоветуете взять
@@legion2252 я не специалист, но на мой взгляд 360 играет хуже. Части вокала как будто не хватает. Расскажите, какие вы видите проблемы?
s360db pair is too bright and boomy
First!
А100?)))) ааа
360 +++++++
s360db is better.
nope, u r deaf