Not blaming the idea of having the skyline being cramp up, so if they finished all segments to civic center, my guess is that riders in 2031 would increase to 7500. Not tryna argue, but that’s my guess.
@ when the rail is fully built as planed then I can see more travelers especially if they extend the rout to UH manoa or Waikiki I could see it but right now I don’t see 2400 to 2500 and I work next to a station and don’t see much traffic using it! I think with UH manoa and Waikiki on there would draw more students and tourist and with stops at ala Moana and pearl ridge would draw the tourist shopping
@@howzit9397 It’s about 1/4 of a mile from the nearest station to Pearl Ridge, which is probably okay if you’re not carrying anything. Right now the end point is the imaginary “civic center” at South and Halekauwila, 1.2 miles and two stations short of Ala Moana. Their 6/3/2022 “recovery” plan estimates they will be 11 years behind schedule (2031) and $5 billion over budget ($10+ billion) despite the truncated route. hart has already admitted that already approved real estate projects in Ala Moana will most likely force them to build new lines using different technologies to get rail beyond Ala Moana. You can’t make this stuff up. “When pushed by city councilmembers Tuesday in a planning committee hearing, HART gave several ideas to get the rail line to UH, including one that would require passengers to get off the train at the Ala Moana station. ‘It would be a transfer to Ala Moana to a new system. So an elevator ride up 8 or 9 stories and then a transfer to a new system’” hawaiinewsnow 1/24/2018 “We have to get to UH; it might not be the same technology, maybe there might be better integration,” said HART’s CEO, Lori Kahikina.” hawaiinewsnow 11/29/23
@@LonnieBrewer-dd4wi “In all, 1,165,821 passengers will have ridden Skyline between July 2023 and today, according to the city’s Department of Transportation Services, which operates Skyline. The result means that Skyline will have generated $617,441 in revenue during its first year of operation.” star advertiser 6/30/2024 In summary, that’s 3,194 riders per day, a far cry from their initial estimate of 15k, their later estimate of 12.6k, or the even later estimate of 8-10k riders per day per Roger Morton of DTS. With $617k revenue from a total of 1.166 million riders, DTS is netting 53¢ revenue per rider. With operational expenses of $94 million for the first year per Roger Morton of DTS, their fare box recovery is .66%, very, very short of their publicly stated goal of 25 - 30%. $617,441 / $94,000,000 =.66%
Can we transfer high car registration cost to tourist since they probably be most likely using it most and visitors it’s absurd to pay almost 500 to register SUV
If the skyline project ends up successful, we should adopt conjestion pricing like in nyc to get this system enough popularity to make it well worth it. We could even just have the h1 tolled from middle street or Liliha to it’s end at kahala mall.
Next they'll be telling us its closed for good. :(
I wonder how long there gonna open segment 2?🤔
6 billion dollars overbudget. What a scam.
OH NO! There's going to be six VERY unhappy folks!
😂😂
I bet both of the weekend riders will be upset.
Skyline could be closed a whole year, no one would know.
Train wreck
2400 to 2500 riders a day😂😂😂 STOP IT!!!
Not blaming the idea of having the skyline being cramp up, so if they finished all segments to civic center, my guess is that riders in 2031 would increase to 7500. Not tryna argue, but that’s my guess.
@ when the rail is fully built as planed then I can see more travelers especially if they extend the rout to UH manoa or Waikiki I could see it but right now I don’t see 2400 to 2500 and I work next to a station and don’t see much traffic using it! I think with UH manoa and Waikiki on there would draw more students and tourist and with stops at ala Moana and pearl ridge would draw the tourist shopping
@ i see
@@howzit9397 It’s about 1/4 of a mile from the nearest station to Pearl Ridge, which is probably okay if you’re not carrying anything. Right now the end point is the imaginary “civic center” at South and Halekauwila, 1.2 miles and two stations short of Ala Moana. Their 6/3/2022 “recovery” plan estimates they will be 11 years behind schedule (2031) and $5 billion over budget ($10+ billion) despite the truncated route. hart has already admitted that already approved real estate projects in Ala Moana will most likely force them to build new lines using different technologies to get rail beyond Ala Moana. You can’t make this stuff up.
“When pushed by city councilmembers Tuesday in a planning committee hearing, HART gave several ideas to get the rail line to UH, including one that would require passengers to get off the train at the Ala Moana station.
‘It would be a transfer to Ala Moana to a new system. So an elevator ride up 8 or 9 stories and then a transfer to a new system’” hawaiinewsnow 1/24/2018
“We have to get to UH; it might not be the same technology, maybe there might be better integration,” said HART’s CEO, Lori Kahikina.” hawaiinewsnow 11/29/23
Its good when u have a. Working e bike
i wonder how long before they admit the rail is not financially sustainable,.
It's sustainable..
@@LonnieBrewer-dd4wi “In all, 1,165,821 passengers will have ridden Skyline between July 2023 and today, according to the city’s Department of Transportation Services, which operates Skyline.
The result means that Skyline will have generated $617,441 in revenue during its first year of operation.” star advertiser 6/30/2024
In summary, that’s 3,194 riders per day, a far cry from their initial estimate of 15k, their later estimate of 12.6k, or the even later estimate of 8-10k riders per day per Roger Morton of DTS. With $617k revenue from a total of 1.166 million riders, DTS is netting 53¢ revenue per rider.
With operational expenses of $94 million for the first year per Roger Morton of DTS, their fare box recovery is .66%, very, very short of their publicly stated goal of 25 - 30%.
$617,441 / $94,000,000 =.66%
Can we transfer high car registration cost to tourist since they probably be most likely using it most and visitors it’s absurd to pay almost 500 to register SUV
Having an suv in Hawaii is absurd
@@alejaan6778 I pay $430 for a small 4 door car, so the registration is ridiculous regardless of what you drive.
Billions spent, zero value returned
If the skyline project ends up successful, we should adopt conjestion pricing like in nyc to get this system enough popularity to make it well worth it. We could even just have the h1 tolled from middle street or Liliha to it’s end at kahala mall.