Worked for Ford of Europe back then and had plenty of Escort RS Turbos as pool cars, company cars etc... But I went out and bought the Renault 5GT Turbo after I left Ford and felt it was a quicker point and squirt car, particularly down a tight B-road. Handling felt a lot better and even though the engine itself was more agricultural, it just felt more torquier than the CVH. Great vid though... brings back lovely memories of great times back then.
Loved this video. Sorry Jamie, but if I had to choose and I wish I had the opportunity, it would have to be the renault 5 GT turbo. Everything about that car is awesome 👌 😊
I bought my gt turbo in 1986 REG was C738ULW BOUGHT IT FROM GARY KEMP FROM SPANDAU BALLET ,THE MOST FUN CAR AND THE BEST LOOKING ONE PEARL WHITE WITH BLACK AND RED GRAPHICS MXV MICHELIN TYRES ON SICK ALLOYS ELECTRIC ROOF WHAT A BLAST I HAD IN THAT CAR ITS A B ROAD TOWN WHIPPER ,NOT GOOD FOR LONG TRIPS OR MOTORWAYS THE TURBO BOOMING ON AND OFF ,LOVED IT SWAPPED FOR A D REG GOLF GOT 16V GREAT VID !GATE13SW6CREW cfc
Ahh the age-old R5 GT Turbo V Escort rs Turbo debate. 30 years ago i chose the R5 Gt Turbo. Today, if i could afford one ... id choose the R5 GT Turbo all day long.
Owned a 1990 GT Turbo for 9 years between 96 and 05. One off engine custom built by GT Tuning in Dorset. 300+ bhp with the right fuel and octane booster. Absolutely terrifying on full boost. Sold it for 5 grand. Recently saw it on eBay for 18k. Wish i had that money spare these days.
Loved it! Takes me back to when both of my friends had these cracking cars!! Racing in the country roads of Hertfordshire just puts the best smile on your face! UNFORGETABLE MEMORIES AND GOOD TIMES!!
That 5 GT Turbo was a stock colour, the same as the one I had. But the car you tested was actually a mk1 dressed up as a mk2, with a mk2 interior and later colour coded bumpers. I saw mine running around London a few years after I had sold it and someone had done the same to it. Blew 3 turbos and the drivers seat broke. But I loved it, did 50k miles in 3 years, mostly driving for fun. Nice video
problem there was the oil used, mine i used semi synthetic then the new released Model 1, Renault recommend that multigrade oil and it clogged after excess heat and it didn't help people taking there R5 in for a kwit fit £10 oil change when they were highly modified
Having driven both back in the day, the r5 was quite torquey and lively. The escort was not torquey then had a lift in power above 4k . Also had heavy steering. Now a tuned version is completely different.
No way. I had both back in the early 2000s, a series 1 exactly like in the video, and a red Renault 5 turbo. The RS was a far better car imo, and was far cooler. Wish I'd kept both now, I sold them for pennies 😅🙄🙄
@@mrb3673 Everyone has there own opinions and I can respect that. I had a red 205 GTI 1.6 that had a super chip fitted taking it to 130bhp. Wish I still had it! I passed my test in Jan 95 and I wanted to buy my mechanic friends R5GT, he'd had it bare shell sprayed in Electric blue. But my dad said he'd kick me out if I bought it😔.My dad had the original XR3 with the rubber wing 🤣
When I was training as mechanic in mid 90s a customer bought 2 5t in but one had rotted to hell and the other the engine was knackered. I had to change the entire interior into the less rotten shell and swop engines over. Took nearly a week to do and the day before he was due to pick it up they both got knicked! He was gutted to say the least!
Had a R5 GTt back in my early 20s. Owned it for 7 years. Back then my choice was absolutely the Renault over the Ford. Now though I'd take both!! Would have to be the S1 RS Turbo though. On the streets back in the 90s these two cars were the frequent night time drag race from the traffic lights. Good times
Out of all the cars I've had if i could have 1 back it would be my modified R5 GTT closest thing to a road going gokart ive had ,but at the time i was glad to have sold it for £800 considering the reliability and the fact i was paying £2200 third party back in1997
im a ford rs guy through and through, but owned a 230bhp r5gtt for 5 years and it was easily the better drivers car and put the power to the ground with no probs
No way the Renault had a weight of 850kg. I had one, and the weight was 970kg. I know, because i put it on the scale. Maybe earlier Renault 5 had less weight. But it blew the escort easily.
The last week of July 1987 I had off work as changing jobs so did the only sensible thing and booked a load of test drives - Renault 5 GT Turbo, Pug 205 GTI (1.6 and 1.9), Fiat Uno Turbo, Toyota MR2, Escort RS Turbo. 5GT T definitely quickest, most fun, best handling. Uno second on performance but agreed with reviews at the time that it span inner front wheel too easily as tall narrow body. Pug's probably best built though they did have stalling issues (and handling issues going by a friends family that wrote off three of them). Toyota was a massive yawn and Escort well, in today's lingo would best be described as "Meh". I nearly bought the 5GT T but parents split and I had to rent so that was that.
That particular GT Turbo is a bit of a hybrid ... Being a D REg 87 car, its a phase 1 but it has phase 2 smoothed ( trim delete) body-coloured bumpers and grill, rear spoiler and front and rear seats. Rear arches with fake grill air intakes are standard phase one. Phase 2 cars also got the GT Turbo side decals. Blue paintwork was available on phase 1 cars but its possibly the rarest colpur now!? this car looks to be painted in phase 2 electric blue.
I always had the fords. MK1 xr3i, MK2 rs turbo, then a 1990 sapphire cosworth and a focus rs after that. Then I went to German cars. The fords always had the nicest interiors in my opinion, they just looked classier 👍👍
The Renault is a great little pocket rocket. Only downsides were the anti-Perc fan than used to sieze up and cause a loom fire and replacing the starter motor was a real swine of a job!
The R5 GT Turbo is a cool car and a little pocket rocket but man the S1 RS Turbo is still such a beautiful looking car. Pretty much every bit of the styling was perfect.
It all boils down to personal preference i purchased a series 1 Escort Turbo 1985 brand new..i loved it the performence was awesome the looks unsappasable..it was stolen after 3 weeks...😢
This video made me so sad 😢I had a 5GT turbo raider in 1992 mint bought off one owner and I regret it every day that I sold it . But in 1995 wasn’t as old and wise oh well
great video i owned a series 1 rs turbo . then i drove a ren 5 turbo / it was a lot faster in every way/ i eneded up buying astra gte 16 valve / that was fasterthan both escort and ren . brill video
Hit the sweet spot with me, and judging by your smile, very much with you, too! 😁 You defo would have both had a thumbs up from me, had I seen you both. Proving popular in the comments, but R5 GT Turbo for me, too. Had an XR2 back in '89 until I was relieved if it (😠), but always hankered after the Renault.
I had both back in the day, that exhaust on the Renault is definitely not a standard, you could hear the turbo whistle more. The Renault was better around estates and town because it weighed nothing, the escort is better down country twisting roads and b roads
7:02 you think the radio would be ok like that but when you try a eject a cd it struggles to push the cd up. I’ve had the same cd stuck in mine for 10 years 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@-doggy-6670 yes... and with the VW Golf MK2 engine aswell and this version with the renault engine was exported from brazil to some europena countries like denmark and sweden Escort with the Renault engine ruclips.net/user/shorts1oZ1JO8g6RI escort with the VW Golf engine ruclips.net/video/cJARbECEK3g/видео.html&ab_channel=GustavoBrasilAntigos
Renault 9 GT turbo is more comparable to an escort. Arguably even more balanced than the 5 too. Good luck finding one these days though. 21 turbo is a belting car too.
R5 GT Turbo had better brakes and suspension and was faster in std form, the RST was the more tunable car though as when the R5 GT Turbo went past 200bhp they were pretty unreliable, both great cars in their own right though.
Had both in the 90's a GT Tuning r5 turbo which was sooo much fun and a Power engineering fettled with RS Turbo both were great but i just perfer the looks of the escort , sadly mine got stolen and stripped and the guy that bought my R5T turned the boost up to max and blew the engine >.< , happy days
I had a series 2 90 spec rs turbo with a power engineering build at 204 bhp back in the 90s and a 184 bhp 5 turbo and the 5 was definitely a lot faster.
Owned both these cars in the 90’s, Renault was a crisp low mileage example, I remember perk fan, overheating and actually ran and revved at one point with the key out! The couple of occasions it ran it was great but in the 30+ years I’ve been driving I’ll say that R5 was the worst car I ever owned and some! 😮 Rs turbo was a fantastic car, not on the same page at all as the Renault by far 👍
Renault 5 GT Copa Turbo és el mejor, 200 km/ hora sin coger temperatura aceleraración impresionante, para carreteras de 1km de recta y curvas no hay coche que te siga. 🎉🎉🎉🎉
The big night & day difference for me is Turbo fuel injection from the Series 1 RS & Turbo carburettor for the GT5. Typical French, they always hate change.
Loving your video until the horrible and too loud music comes in, there’s just no need for music. Chat or engine noise is so much better. Let’s face it, probably 0.01 percent of the viewers will like the music you do. If music made videos then top gear or harry garage would do it. Only my opinion
@@terryterry_yiannimize1717 gapping family Audi A4s and BMW 318s is nothing special, these are basic cars. RS turbo and GT5 etc. were kids cars with body kits to make them look 'cool'. Being fast is relative to your experience, as a kid they were fast, compared to a RS500 or a modern day Golf GTI they are slow asf.
Worked for Ford of Europe back then and had plenty of Escort RS Turbos as pool cars, company cars etc... But I went out and bought the Renault 5GT Turbo after I left Ford and felt it was a quicker point and squirt car, particularly down a tight B-road. Handling felt a lot better and even though the engine itself was more agricultural, it just felt more torquier than the CVH. Great vid though... brings back lovely memories of great times back then.
Bought my pearl white GT Turbo in ‘89….swapped year later for a 1.9 205 GTI. Two of the best cars I’ve ever owned
Loved this video. Sorry Jamie, but if I had to choose and I wish I had the opportunity, it would have to be the renault 5 GT turbo. Everything about that car is awesome 👌 😊
GT Turbo. Back in the day I could never afford the insurance, now I can’t afford the car 😂
I had both of these back in the 90s truth be known I preferred the 5 GT all day long
I loved my 5 Turbo Rader 1990 G plate 180bhp BBR standing quarter mile 13 seconds……love always 🧠💪🤝🎼💚.🙏
I bought my gt turbo in 1986 REG was C738ULW BOUGHT IT FROM GARY KEMP FROM SPANDAU BALLET ,THE MOST FUN CAR AND THE BEST LOOKING ONE PEARL WHITE WITH BLACK AND RED GRAPHICS MXV MICHELIN TYRES ON SICK ALLOYS ELECTRIC ROOF WHAT A BLAST I HAD IN THAT CAR ITS A B ROAD TOWN WHIPPER ,NOT GOOD FOR LONG TRIPS OR MOTORWAYS THE TURBO BOOMING ON AND OFF ,LOVED IT SWAPPED FOR A D REG GOLF GOT 16V GREAT VID !GATE13SW6CREW cfc
Ahh the age-old R5 GT Turbo V Escort rs Turbo debate. 30 years ago i chose the R5 Gt Turbo. Today, if i could afford one ... id choose the R5 GT Turbo all day long.
Owned a 1990 GT Turbo for 9 years between 96 and 05. One off engine custom built by GT Tuning in Dorset. 300+ bhp with the right fuel and octane booster. Absolutely terrifying on full boost. Sold it for 5 grand. Recently saw it on eBay for 18k. Wish i had that money spare these days.
Had a bright yellow 1989 gt turbo as my second ever car back in the late 90’s wish I’d kept it, absolutely loved it!
Loved it!
Takes me back to when both of my friends had these cracking cars!!
Racing in the country roads of Hertfordshire just puts the best smile on your face!
UNFORGETABLE MEMORIES AND GOOD TIMES!!
That 5 GT Turbo was a stock colour, the same as the one I had. But the car you tested was actually a mk1 dressed up as a mk2, with a mk2 interior and later colour coded bumpers. I saw mine running around London a few years after I had sold it and someone had done the same to it. Blew 3 turbos and the drivers seat broke. But I loved it, did 50k miles in 3 years, mostly driving for fun. Nice video
problem there was the oil used, mine i used semi synthetic then the new released Model 1, Renault recommend that multigrade oil and it clogged after excess heat and it didn't help people taking there R5 in for a kwit fit £10 oil change when they were highly modified
Renault 5 GT Turbo my fav hot hatch followed by Vauxhall Nova GSi
Enjoyed this... . the 5 GT Turbo will always be the ultimate hot hatch for me.. 👍
Having driven both back in the day, the r5 was quite torquey and lively. The escort was not torquey then had a lift in power above 4k . Also had heavy steering. Now a tuned version is completely different.
GT TURBO ALL THE WAY 👊🤘🤘🤘
No way. I had both back in the early 2000s, a series 1 exactly like in the video, and a red Renault 5 turbo.
The RS was a far better car imo, and was far cooler. Wish I'd kept both now, I sold them for pennies 😅🙄🙄
@@mrb3673 Everyone has there own opinions and I can respect that. I had a red 205 GTI 1.6 that had a super chip fitted taking it to 130bhp. Wish I still had it! I passed my test in Jan 95 and I wanted to buy my mechanic friends R5GT, he'd had it bare shell sprayed in Electric blue. But my dad said he'd kick me out if I bought it😔.My dad had the original XR3 with the rubber wing 🤣
The year is 85..
My pal at school has a brother who's just bought a brand new S2. Picked us up from school. Best memories ever
Had a 5 turbo that was almost 200bhp and about 6 inches lower than the one in the video. Was an awesome car!
great video, thoroughly enjoyed it! nostalgia hit hard watching this, had a R5 GTT when I was a young lad, loved it to bits!
When I was training as mechanic in mid 90s a customer bought 2 5t in but one had rotted to hell and the other the engine was knackered. I had to change the entire interior into the less rotten shell and swop engines over. Took nearly a week to do and the day before he was due to pick it up they both got knicked! He was gutted to say the least!
Yes yes and yes. The r5 is on another level
Having owned both in the 80's, the Renault wins hands down over the Dagenham dustbin 🙂
Bog standard escort with a anti roll bar.. And a cvh turbo engine they handled poorly in the wet.
Ford dealer trained wasnt impressed at all.
Both classics that still look great today, although really rare on the roads.
a friend of mine owns a full nut bolt restored 5gt turbo
Had a R5 GTt back in my early 20s. Owned it for 7 years. Back then my choice was absolutely the Renault over the Ford. Now though I'd take both!! Would have to be the S1 RS Turbo though.
On the streets back in the 90s these two cars were the frequent night time drag race from the traffic lights. Good times
Out of all the cars I've had if i could have 1 back it would be my modified R5 GTT closest thing to a road going gokart ive had ,but at the time i was glad to have sold it for £800 considering the reliability and the fact i was paying £2200 third party back in1997
im a ford rs guy through and through, but owned a 230bhp r5gtt for 5 years and it was easily the better drivers car and put the power to the ground with no probs
Love this great video, would like to see a uno tubo along side these 2 great cars.
No way the Renault had a weight of 850kg. I had one, and the weight was 970kg. I know, because i put it on the scale. Maybe earlier Renault 5 had less weight. But it blew the escort easily.
The last week of July 1987 I had off work as changing jobs so did the only sensible thing and booked a load of test drives - Renault 5 GT Turbo, Pug 205 GTI (1.6 and 1.9), Fiat Uno Turbo, Toyota MR2, Escort RS Turbo. 5GT T definitely quickest, most fun, best handling. Uno second on performance but agreed with reviews at the time that it span inner front wheel too easily as tall narrow body. Pug's probably best built though they did have stalling issues (and handling issues going by a friends family that wrote off three of them). Toyota was a massive yawn and Escort well, in today's lingo would best be described as "Meh". I nearly bought the 5GT T but parents split and I had to rent so that was that.
Back in the day went from a Gordini 5 Turbo to a proper 5 Turbo 2 with 200hp.
As a road car that was an awesome drive.....
Both beautiful, but I'd never trade in my S1 for the Renault, period
Has to be the escort RS turbo, absolutely beautiful car
The RS is the best choice, it's head gasket won't go within 5 minutes.
Cars of my teenage dreams back in the 80s. Renault 5 GT turbo for me.
Ive had both R5gtt is a better drivers car but I'm a Ford guy kept my rs for years then swapped it for an rst cabby
Beautiful I want to go back in time I’ve had both of these cars loved the gt felt like a Go Cart with amazing boost.😆👍👍
my 5 GT Turbo dusted any RS that tried i even sent them a Sympathy card after the event.
I used to own an R5 GT Turbo. Mine was over boosting to 180bhp and was just so fast lol. I loved the car so much and so wish I had it today still 👍
BHP is overall power output, not turbo boost.
@@docd340? He says he had more boost and that's how it made 180bhp. Nothing wrong with that
Me too what a fun car that was Damn !GATE13SW6CREW c.f.c
@@TheAdatto Thanks mate that's what I meant 👍
That particular GT Turbo is a bit of a hybrid ... Being a D REg 87 car, its a phase 1 but it has phase 2 smoothed ( trim delete) body-coloured bumpers and grill, rear spoiler and front and rear seats. Rear arches with fake grill air intakes are standard phase one. Phase 2 cars also got the GT Turbo side decals. Blue paintwork was available on phase 1 cars but its possibly the rarest colpur now!? this car looks to be painted in phase 2 electric blue.
I always had the fords. MK1 xr3i, MK2 rs turbo, then a 1990 sapphire cosworth and a focus rs after that. Then I went to German cars. The fords always had the nicest interiors in my opinion, they just looked classier 👍👍
The Renault is a great little pocket rocket. Only downsides were the anti-Perc fan than used to sieze up and cause a loom fire and replacing the starter motor was a real swine of a job!
The R5 GT Turbo is a cool car and a little pocket rocket but man the S1 RS Turbo is still such a beautiful looking car. Pretty much every bit of the styling was perfect.
It all boils down to personal preference i purchased a series 1 Escort Turbo 1985 brand new..i loved it the performence was awesome the looks unsappasable..it was stolen after 3 weeks...😢
This video made me so sad 😢I had a 5GT turbo raider in 1992 mint bought off one owner and I regret it every day that I sold it . But in 1995 wasn’t as old and wise oh well
Loved both my 5’s back in the day, with 14psi boost they rip and can beat a chipped RS Turbo.
bet you "warmed" it up properly before booting it, and "cooled it down" before turning off the engine eh? :)
Back then most seemed to do it religiously, inc me. Why did you mention this?
Love this channel. So damn good seeing the Renault gt turbo.
Owned Both R5GT Turbo is the best 📦✅
Lucky enough to have owned a S1 RS & two 5 Turbos when I was young. If only I knew what I had.......
R5 for me, only Escorts which had the special magic were the Mk1 and Mk2.
great video i owned a series 1 rs turbo . then i drove a ren 5 turbo / it was a lot faster in every way/ i eneded up buying astra gte 16 valve / that was fasterthan both escort and ren . brill video
Cool car’s
My brother has my old gt turbo now lives in Dorset you should drive that it’s mint 200bhp and a phase one.👍❤
Hit the sweet spot with me, and judging by your smile, very much with you, too! 😁 You defo would have both had a thumbs up from me, had I seen you both. Proving popular in the comments, but R5 GT Turbo for me, too. Had an XR2 back in '89 until I was relieved if it (😠), but always hankered after the Renault.
R5 all day
Love the R5 GT but got the be yours Jamie mk3 S1 RST every day..😊
I had both back in the day, that exhaust on the Renault is definitely not a standard, you could hear the turbo whistle more. The Renault was better around estates and town because it weighed nothing, the escort is better down country twisting roads and b roads
7:02 you think the radio would be ok like that but when you try a eject a cd it struggles to push the cd up. I’ve had the same cd stuck in mine for 10 years 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Love these things, but as a Ford lad its where my heart is. Genuinely would have a trouser moment in a R5 defo a beautiful thing (in white). 😎😎✌✌👌👌👍👍
in south america the ford escort was sold with the renault 5 engine....
Really????
@@-doggy-6670 yes... and with the VW Golf MK2 engine aswell
and this version with the renault engine was exported from brazil to some europena countries like denmark and sweden
Escort with the Renault engine
ruclips.net/user/shorts1oZ1JO8g6RI
escort with the VW Golf engine
ruclips.net/video/cJARbECEK3g/видео.html&ab_channel=GustavoBrasilAntigos
@@-doggy-6670 it was not turbo and was 1.6, but yes, the same engine
ruclips.net/video/BHI_erSj56I/видео.html&ab_channel=CanalEscorteRadio
The Dagenham Dustbin is by far the better-looking car, but I'd rather have the R5 Turbo
I had both of them when I was younger
Gt turbo every time. I have own both cars in th 80s. F reg gt turbo,series 2 R S turbo. The ford lacked top end power.
Renault 9 GT turbo is more comparable to an escort. Arguably even more balanced than the 5 too. Good luck finding one these days though. 21 turbo is a belting car too.
R5 GT turbo all day long
Great cars! good video! Thanks!
R5 GT Turbo had better brakes and suspension and was faster in std form, the RST was the more tunable car though as when the R5 GT Turbo went past 200bhp they were pretty unreliable, both great cars in their own right though.
Can anyone help me resore my raider??
Yes,Where are you based?
Had both in the 90's a GT Tuning r5 turbo which was sooo much fun and a Power engineering fettled with RS Turbo both were great but i just perfer the looks of the escort , sadly mine got stolen and stripped and the guy that bought my R5T turned the boost up to max and blew the engine >.< , happy days
I remember Roland at GT Tuning,gave me loads of help with mine👍👍
I had a series 2 90 spec rs turbo with a power engineering build at 204 bhp back in the 90s and a 184 bhp 5 turbo and the 5 was definitely a lot faster.
Both epic cars, but the Ford edges it for me 🤘
Series 1 all day long 👍👍👍👍👍 but love both
S1 definitely I’ve had both my old uno was even more better
Owned both these cars in the 90’s, Renault was a crisp low mileage example, I remember perk fan, overheating and actually ran and revved at one point with the key out! The couple of occasions it ran it was great but in the 30+ years I’ve been driving I’ll say that R5 was the worst car I ever owned and some! 😮
Rs turbo was a fantastic car, not on the same page at all as the Renault by far 👍
Yes,the Escort was better looking but that CVH engine..........!?
I want them both...
Renault 5 GT Copa Turbo és el mejor, 200 km/ hora sin coger temperatura aceleraración impresionante, para carreteras de 1km de recta y curvas no hay coche que te siga. 🎉🎉🎉🎉
Amazing cars❤🔥🔥🔥💪😎😎😎👍👍👍
Handling on the ford is pretty bad, it feel heavy... the R5 is more dynamic, far funnier.
Ps just waiting 2 C a strapped intercooler 😎😎✌✌👌👌👍👍
The big night & day difference for me is Turbo fuel injection from the Series 1 RS & Turbo carburettor for the GT5.
Typical French, they always hate change.
As Clarkson said the badge on a ford shows your standing in society. 🤣
Did it start with the original escort?
Loving your video until the horrible and too loud music comes in, there’s just no need for music. Chat or engine noise is so much better. Let’s face it, probably 0.01 percent of the viewers will like the music you do. If music made videos then top gear or harry garage would do it. Only my opinion
I always got whipped by a guy in an RS turbo in my Renault.
Uno turbo beats both
It is a factory coulor
Renault 5 all day
Escort rs turbo everyday
Your not enjoying them they way they should. There not in a hedge or on there roof's.
New cars 🚗 look pathetic
rs turbo better car....gt turbo quicker to 60
Uno turbo 😎👊🏾
No question RS Turbos are a bag of shite. Renault is an icon along with Lancia Delta HF and Astra GTE.
Let's be honest, these cars were sht and slow asf.
Used to eviscerate these on my 250.
Don’t sound like you have ever had or driven either of them.
I still have a 5 gt turbo and it’s still gaping loads of modern day Cars
@@terryterry_yiannimize1717 gapping family Audi A4s and BMW 318s is nothing special, these are basic cars.
RS turbo and GT5 etc. were kids cars with body kits to make them look 'cool'. Being fast is relative to your experience, as a kid they were fast, compared to a RS500 or a modern day Golf GTI they are slow asf.
Cvh engine is just lazy
no
Bellasfida
La R5 gt turbo è il must delle piccole turbo...forse forse solo la Uno Turbo poteva infastidirla...
Rs all day long gt just looks like a match box and cheap looking