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- Опубликовано: 17 май 2013
- Good Guys Car Show (May 18, 2013)
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The concrete barriers on a classic muscle car course was a brilliant idea.
I mean putting land yachts on a handling course from the start is kind of whack, might as well have a competition drag racing miata's.
Any muscle car is subject to spin out when you're trying to make a sharp turn. I'n my opinion..just go ahead and hay bale that inside turn to give the drivers a little bit more peace of mind coming into that danger zone.
Possibly whoever was putting on this event couldn't afford hay bales or tires as padding to the concrete? I wouldn't run a classic on a course like this with nothing but concrete to run into.
@@pongespob Agreed..old tires would've been a good low cost choice.
@@brosephStalinof From what It seems, the suspension is upgraded from stock one
I had a ‘70 Chevelle in high school. Handled like a yacht but crazy awesome acceleration. Was wonderful fun doing doughnuts but wouldn’t have dreamed of a slalom course.
The driver knew bugger all about torque delivery, and paid the price. Skid control lessons would be a good investment.
Great story
Classic muscle cars are not built to do anything but go fast in a straight line. Nice job with the concrete barrier setup instead of haybails.
I think 69 thru 72 Chevelles were beautiful cars. Like asking a hot chick to do gymnastics. Who cares?
@@jjano2320 Curious why you left out 68 Chevelles? 85% the same as 69.
Hot chicks can be excellent gymnasts.
Depends on what model it is, some were built for the strip or track only yet there are some that can preform on many types of tracks.
Don't blame the people who set up the track. Blame the dumb-ass driver who should've known better than to screw around on that race track.
That was a great idea putting a concrete wall within 5 feet of the autocross course...in fact brilliant idea!
+FreeeeBeer It IS brilliant..It's to protect spectators from bad drivers like this asshat.
+68Barracuda11s I totally agree hahah fckn idoits
😂😂😂😂😂 that's just funny. I see this guys getting into this sport with the wrong cars for it. Very poor choice of cars in my opinion. Some are way too heavy and the center of gravity is way to high. Put that together with bad brakes and not so good tires and you have a fucked up recipe for self destruction😁.
kinda dumb how the guy tried to avoid the cone and swerved into the barrier, he would have been fine if he just spun out to the left, instead he tried to correct and oversteered into the barrier.
It's ok if he gave his Chevelle a black eye. When you going to get some Chrome dipping done for that 71 rat turd you call a Camaro?
Using concrete walls was pretty stupid in this type of format, this could have been prevented with tire or hay bale walls....
+Mr. Anderson excellent reply!
J Mac no it could be prevented by dumbass not taking a badass car out there like that...
J Mac Deciding to put grandpas car threw this was dumb.
J Mac , yes that's what I said .
J Mac thats the same thinking I had! Let's race show cars on a nimble track! We will use concrete barriers to keep them from getting out of line!! Brilliant Idea!!
Concrete walls?!! I would have never taken my classic car on that course with concrete walls as barriers! Tough looking at that! Nice '68 Chevelle! Damage not too severe, but still!
If you can drive it os no problem he never went past 40mph low to no skill driver
Yeah, it's wasted!!!
Hay bales will not keep a car from crushing bystanders.
That's not damaged too badly and all the parts are readily available. Beautiful car BTW.
There could easily be a boatload of hidden damage here than you can't see from a distance. That barrier got hit pretty hard and moved a few feet. In addition to the left fender and front bumper, you could have the grille, radiator support, headlight bezel, headlight support, hood, bumper brackets, front valance. I'm not saying all this stuff is damaged or could not be bumped out, but it's not cheap to fix or easy to come by. A reproduction fender is easy, but finding the bumper is going to be a challenge. I'm no Chevelle expert, but there were a lot less Chevelles made than Malibus, and I'm not sure which of those front-end parts are Chevelle specific vs. shared.
If you are replacing factory sheet metal with aftermarket Chinese reproduction, you will definitely take a hit in value for that. The fitment on those reproduction parts can be hit or miss too.
Perfect example of what happens if you yank your foot out of the gas when the rear end busts loose, she snaps back the other way and if you're not on the wheel like a squirrel digging for his nut stash, you get what happened to this guy.
“On the wheel like a squirrel digging for his nut stash”
That’s a shame😢
Yep
Who would put concrete barriers at an event such as this...? Absolutely stupid...!!
Probably a requirement by the city to obtain a permit.
yeah the second i seen that auto x track i would have not even unloaded kiss my butt later
Yeah but put tires or SOMETHING in front to at least cushion the impact a little or deflect. lol
That's like saying why do roads have kerb sides !
The course is about driving skill and car handling. you are not supposed to hit the concrete barriers.
The same people who put cars like this in events.
that has to be dumbest autocross track i've seen in my life. the concrete k rails right outside the track defeats the whole purpose of an open autocross safe track. and to top it off, looks like it was a classic car race.
Reminds me of the time I tried to back a full size school bus into a one car garage, should never have even tried it.
Whats the point of these stupid mini courses for big heavy metal?.....
What's the point of your stupid comment?
To point out of the stupidity of the courses, stupid
thesmoothone But the drivers are having fun. So don't be stupid, Stupid.
To show how crappy they handle. ;) And before the tard brigade comes in and starts shitting on my head, I love muscle cars but you god damned well know better they can't handle worth a shit. They are bricks for draggin' and that's about it.
Don't you even start telling me, because leaf springs suck. They belong on diesel trucks, not sports cars.
***** Not all of them have leaf springs... Let me get you a new roll of TP...
It could have been a LOT worse, thankfully it was just the corner of the car. Hope it's alright.
I had a 69 Chevelle once. It was a lumbering sled. Without modern suspensions that would be crazy driving on that track.
I hear you buddy. I had a 70 SS with a 396. Driving through that track would have been like driving a bus. Cheers.
Yes. Muscle cars weren't built for their maneuverability.
My butthole is itchy. Cheers.
@@jacksmack6956 ask your buddy to wipe it.
He messed up when he locked up the brakes. I know the first reaction is to slam on the brakes, but you give up control when you do that.
Very true.
He was more worried about knocking over cones and looking bad. If he had let off both the accelerator and brake, and the steering wheel, the car would have gone straight into the middle of the course.
@@farmerj1 Yes you are right. I was horsing around in our High School gravel lot 79/80. And found that when I did just that. I got those results. In 96 as part of my OTR Truck driver training with Schneider we had the only Real Skid Pad (Instructor had a device to put you into a skid) of any Driver training facility. And the biggest thing they taught was. As soon as you loose traction push in the Clutch. then off the accelerator or brake. To get the "Rolling Traction" back. As a Skidding wheel will always want to lead. rather from locked or spinning. That and steer to where you want to go to. Not so much into or out of ... They'd say head to the green triangle, put us in a skid. And tell us steer for the "orange" one... Worked for Bobcat and with the trailer. Saved my ass more than once in 16 years...Doing a refresher one day some new hire with verified 25 years experience who kept saying 25 years of being on the real skid pad (road) failed and wasn't hired. As he wouldn't listen. While 2 week drivers were pulling out of the skids...Damn this is long. LOL
Panic will do that every time, got to learn to to lift to regain control.
This course is best suited to MG Midgets and Minis
Silly muscle car, corners aren't for you. LOL
Roberto Trevino I love a good old muscle car but hard high speed cornering isn't the best thing for them.
He could build that car to do a track like that, but I don't think he went all out with his parts. He probably didn't get good enough tires, nor did he get good enough sway bars or stiff enough springs. You build it right, it'll handle like it's on rails.
jescollo I like me a good prius
I guess the z/28 Camaro doesn't exist?
I did a lot of auto crossing in the 90s and never once did I run a course that gave any chance of colliding with a solid object.
When your car gets hot enough you'll realize that you need to take a driving class. Top speed in 5th gear 145, and it's a 6-speed.
Would have been more damage to the car if he hit the fat guy next to the concrete.
Car handels like a dump truck, and stops like a train.
To someone who can't drive sure
and takes off like a jet, thats why we LOVE it.
its over 40 years old what do you expect lol?
Should have had a Corvair! I'm serious. They handle and stop!
BuffbillXxx I'm sure your moms Honda CRV handles much better
And that’s why you don’t lock the brakes up when you are sliding on anything whether it be gravel, dirt or asphalt. You will have basically no control.
This hurts to watch such a beaty chevelle but im glad it still lived to fight another day. 👍 👍
Yes, it really does.
I've wanted a 1969 Chevelle 396 SS since I was in high school.
If I get my hands on one I can assure you that acting like a complete dumbass won't be something I'll do.
Cars like these are becoming more rare with each one that crashes.
One of my favorite years for the Chevelle. Looks like minor damage. Probably got fixed a week later
Still a wrecked car though
I doubt it. That barrier moved a few feet, I bet that whole front end got tweaked.
I'm a psychiatrist.
The Chevelle was rebelling against the owner for putting those Chip Foose looking circus rims on her.
Nice set of rally's could have avoided this.
Ceskoslovenska.
Sketchy brakes? Check.
Squishy suspension? Check.
Clapped out steering box? Check.
Unsuitable tires? Check.
Let 'er rip!
Not the hardest hit the commentator said... You push something no ordinary man can push in a split second. You tweaked something there buster...
It's always a sad day when a car crashes. But at least it's doing what it's supposed to be doing. Driving instead of collecting dust in a garage.
Someone who cant handle a gun shoots in his knee.. well better the gun is shot than collecting dust in a museum... lol
StarsWithScars exactly
@@StarsWithScars
Wonderful comparison! Not!!! 🙄
Not the best car to do a tight road course in! Handles like a school bus!
I love these guys who buy old gear head cars. The problem is they never drove one years ago. They get into a slide and don’t know how to correct it.
The guy on the ATV came over to assure him he not to worry about the damage to the concrete barrier he just hit;-)
I cried for him
I had a hard time watching this.
Kyle Myers eh. its not a big bang. good thing it was an american muscle if it was a newer vehicle it would be toast.
Better the chevelle then the grey camaro
David J Hammond I'm a Ford guy overall but, I (don't kill meee) prefer Chevelles over Camaros. However, the classic Camaros are worth more so I see your point.
There all Beautiful cars, the camaro is my dream car that's im glad it didn't crash lol.
Heartbreaking for the owner.
I learned to drive in a 68 chevelle estate wagon, this was in the mid 90s 😊 You gotta anticipate and slightly pump the breaks. Dont lock them, and you can manage to stay the course.
Kudos to this guy for having the nuts to take the time to learn to drive his car.
He needs more learning. Its the the sudden acceleration and deacceleration that makes you fast. Its the ability to carry speed through the corners in a controlled manner.
looking at the thumbnail i thought it was a 1/2 scale Chevelle next to that giant guy. even after I knew it wasn't it still looks tiny that guy is like 8 feet tall
shows you how heavy the car is by how is pushed the barrier
3500lbs isn't that heavy by todays standards
J Mac has the right idea, should've had hay bales or foam cushions in front of the Jersey barriers.
It's not the barriers. They didn't jump out & hit it. It's the driver . He's not at the drag strip.
if in doubt, throttle out.
Or you could just hit a pylon instead of a concrete block...
OfficialJakePhelps Clueless driver.
Lol who's time he trying to beat? A turtle with no legs?
Concrete walls is a bad idea, but these cars can't handle for shit. Why anyone bothered to do this is beyond me
i love how the camera dips like its a fatality.....dude its a 68' it's just a little fender bender!
Ouuuchh I feel bad for the guy, such a nice car!
I agree concrete? what a shit end to a fun day for this guy and his pride and joy, I'm gutted for him.
Yeah, he probably totally destroyed that car. Don't be such a sensitive douche. There is pretty much no damage.
That beautiful car omg! 😣
Great driving dude!!
He would've have been fine if you wouldn't of locked up the brake towards the end, Instead of the front tire being able to pull the car back to the left, the car had no choice but to let the front end go straight. It happened to me, but it was before I had my license in a big block mercury.
Bingo!
all the hate on muscle running autox.. why? any car can be built to any desire. theyre heavy but not as heavy as most assume. my 71 pontiac weighs only a little more than my buddies evox. I attend autox events since a couple of my club members run them weekly ina league. i see plenty of classic cars built and run amazing numbers in autox. they dont handle like a gutted miata on coils but they can boogy. sucks that bad call on trying to save it on the finish line but hey.. if a miata did it that car probably would be towed home instead of driving away like the chevelle.
Such a nice car! Looks like the damage could be fixed.
RWD cars are notorious for fishtailing when the ground is wet, they should've had hay barriers instead of concrete SMH
The Chevelle was never really known for its ability in the corners. But he showed what it is known for at the end.
Come on now, it’s a Chevelle, not a Mustang.
why didnt they use hay bales?
vito genovese right
I'm sure he watched every Fast & Furious movie and is very confused about what went wrong? 🙄😂
Guy comes riding up on the ATV “ hey, your gonna have to push that back in line with the others!”
A new car would have been totaled from that impact. He had a little dent and drives away.
Because a new car would be going 5 times faster thru the course.
sublime929 but you will spend more fixing this chevelle than a new car.
Hancho familia Just proves a new car isn't worth fixing.
Hancho familia I dunno man. I have been buying fenders and bumpers for my 69. All OEM certified replacements, and they come out to like $230 for the fenders and $260 for a new bumper. It's not all that bad. I'm sure the paint job may cost a bit, but it's black so it's not like matching the paint would be hard. I bet he could spend maybe $1k and fix it with painting the fender and all
Hancho familia you will have a hard time fixing a modern car compared to that 68 chevelle it may cost more to repair but it can be done new cars will break and just be tossed.
The concrete got hurt more then that old chevy
MustObeyTheRules
*If he had been driving a Ford this would have never happen*
Ha the fords crashed in the street on the way there. Google any car show and watch a Mustang try to leave haha
basic physics: when 2 piles of shit hit each other's the heavier one "wins". Have fun wasting your money yet again to fix that pile of shit. Should have bought piece of concrete instead.
sdry how is it a piece of shit?
Sdry; But you get so tired taking your concrete downtown to go shopping!
That hurts the pockets
First of all, never give that much power while still in the turn. He could easily of saved it by powering it through, or let the car slide on its own, not over steering like he did because once the car gets traction, its going which ever way your steering it towards. I would rather hit the cones than the barrier.
That sucks!!@0:53 it was all over when he hit the bakes, should have let it drift out on its own.
Hard to say if letting it drift out he wouldn't hit the front right corner. I would have slammed it in revers right after he slammed on the brakes. I have run into that sorta situation in the winter a few times while drifting around and it has never failed me.
At least he had the balls to put that car on the course... shit happens!
ec53001 it got hurt in action and didn't sit to rot in a trailer.
love it....ran into a concrete barrier so hard that it moved it aside, but has little damage. Cars these days would have been totaled.
Yep, instead of the car absorbing the impact, the occupants did. Great obsolete design. 🤦♂️
To be honest, a modern car should have a lot more damage. Pretty strong car, this old Chevy.
People better start making up their minds…Do you want a Race Course car? Or a Muscle Car?…Stop trying to have one car that does both. Muscle cars are not meant for this type of crap. Leave that to the foreign cars and the rice burners. Dropping the height and putting big ass wheels with salami skin tires is ridiculous. Grow up already. You're killing the image of these classic beauties.
salvatore bartolomeo These older (60's/early 70s) car do handle like crap...in stock form. But many of these "pro-touring" modified muscle cars use 4 link suspension in the rear. They can handle just as well, and even much better, than newer (2010+) Mustang and Camaros. I've seen an early 70s Trans Am with better lap times than the new 707HP 2015 Hellcat.
salvatore bartolomeo You know nothing. Why wouldn't you want to get rid of soggy old suspension and skinny tires that can't grip? Believe it or not some people like to drive these cars for the fun and not just to be looked at.
salvatore bartolomeo That's what I'm saying.... I'm not surprised that clown wrecked his classic Chevelle. You could tell that he had a low IQ by putting those ghetto rims and skinny tires on that car. (Shake my head)
Richard Williams If he used original tires, his car would have wrecked even worse. The technology in the rubber back then was horrible. No grip at all! And the low profile tires (if that is what you mean by "Skinny") has much less sidewall flex to help out in cornering. Besides, they are not ridiculously low profiles at all by today's standards. And those Torque style rims are not at all ghetto. They are very much period style correct and the most common style seen on muscle cars. The driver made a major mistake in his driving skills, but definitely doesn't have a low IQ by using those wheels/rims. Actually shows he has some smarts.
The point is that these Chevelle's are supposed to be used for *drag strips or straight line street racing, not as course cars with lots of corners*. The 17-18 inch American Racing Torque Thrust rims and low pro tires belong on newer cars such as 1993-2000 Camaro's and Firebirds/Trans Ams because they have better handling. 1960's and 1970's Chevelle's look and perform better with the dragster or "Pro Street" look. In other words they perform better with the 15 inch rims and large/wide rear tires with pizza cutter tires in the front. The combination of the high performance motor, the large body style and low pro tires caused the driver to lose control of the Chevelle in this video and fish tail which led to the crash. They now sell wide rear drag tires with tred which prevent fish tailing.
that track sucks dont run yur car on somthing like that
Why people with classic muscle cars auto cross them has always been a mystery to me.
I don't know whether to like the video because I love those 396 Chevelles or to dislike it because my dude over here hurt his baby.
pause @ 0:53 and you will see the weight of the car shift to the rear right wheel setting him up so when he counter steers @ 0:54, all weight of the car shifts to the front left, throwing the ass end out...actually at the end of 0:54, if only he turned his wheel hard left, he would have just slid through the flags..ofcourse we have all the time in the world to analyze it, he only had (2) seconds...
Good point.
He also should've have locked up the brakes as well during the spin.
Definitely noticeable.
Total idiot behind the wheel, why even counter this slide in the first place, just let off & let it die out by itself....
Serves him right, poor SS though.
factory suspension,? I thought so, lateral side deflection gets em every time
Absolutely pointless to do that to one of these cars.
This event looks like one massive clusterfuck:
-concrete barriers within 6 feet of the cones
-an oversized figure 8 for a course
-NO HELMETS! WHAT?
What a shame. Why would you even try this format with a that beautiful Chevelle?
It’s there to protect the photographers and spectators. He wrecked on a short straightaway because he got on the gas too soon on a wet track. I suppose that the giant concrete base for the parking lot light was in a bad place as well? He almost hit that instead of the relatively soft jersey barrier that slid away after the car hit it. He got away with minor damage compared to if he hit the light post base which would have folded that Chevelle up like a taco shell.
“He too old!” Those things handle like a bungalow, stupid…
The only better idea than surrounding this race course of gorgeous cars with concrete walls would be to add some flame throwers and huge jumps! Genius!
It’s a crying shame people like this with too much money own and disrespect a vehicle like this 😞.
Can't mourn your car when there's tons of concrete nearby.
My favorite autocross story, from someone that witnessed it, was about the Mini Cooper that tipped over, as the driver that put his hand out the window to "save" his car.
The crash begins at 0:50 if anyone was wondering
That is a shame that a beautiful car can have an accident.
68's are my favorites, have had several of them ! Those skinny taillights give me the fizz 👍 Do you still have the car ?
Personally I much prefer the 68 Beaumont SD.
@@michaeltutty1540- They are very nice too, not near as many of them around though.
At least the "air bags" didn't go off, the whole front wasn't caved in, and the thing wasn't turned into a complete write off. I hope that concrete barrier is ok. 😊
That's gonna leave a mark!
he messed up by driving that car in that parking lot , he will never do that again
Damage aint too bad just new bumper and head light and side fender he'll be alright
Did you see that concrete move? Remember Newton's law, I'll bet a lot of stuff got tweaked that you can't see.
That's why it's "COOL" to use TWO HANDS WHEN STEERING!!!!!!!!!
Well, at least you can get parts for that. Would hate to ding our '62 Ambassador wagon...
1960s car verses concrete barrier? Winner......1960s car. Pushed that barrier right out of the way.
Would’ve been more fun if he said fuck it and started doing doughnuts 😂💀💀💀
There is nothing worse than a beautiful car with someone who can't drive behind the wheel.
I bet a guy with a Dodge neon won that day on that little track
That’s how you know that chevelles are heavy a new car would smash much more
That's like trying to steeplechase a Clydesdale. Those cars aren't meant for corners. And those poor little rubber band tires are almost peeling off the rims on the corners. He'd almost be better off with stock tires, or certainly with more vintage sizes meant for that much weight.
Another advantage of more modern cars is with the plastic bumpers, you can smash everything under the cover in a crash like that and if the paint holds out and bumper pops back, nobody will know, lol. It's gonna be a lot of work to fix that Chevelle back up.
Weight? It weighs the same as a 300ZX Turbo, and about 800 pounds less than a BMW M5 and 300 pounds less than a GT-R.
ralphinator2
2 door 68 Chevelles can vary by over 500#'s just in how they are equipped, with anywhere from 53-56% of overall weight on the front wheels alone.
But your 300 comment reminded me of a time when a, I believe it was a Charger, tried to keep up to my friends old non-turbo 300. It was a straight street with about a 45° elbow in it with concrete sides. My friend zipped through the corner then heard these loud crash sounds. He checked his mirrors and saw the guy bouncing his car off the concrete sides, lol.
Muscle cars aren't made for corners.
l337pwnage Not from the factory, but they can be modded with shocks, sway bars, and everything else you might think of. I have a Dodge Dart with a complete suspension package from PST and Mopar. It has poly bushes, big sway bars, kevlar brake pads, lowered 3 inches, camber kit, steel braided brake hoses, big brake kit, KYB shocks, autocross springs, Borbet alloy wheels, and V-rated Michelin Pilot tires. You would be very surprised how well it handles. And it only weighs 3400 pounds. That's a thousand pounds less than a BMW M5.
ralphinator2 Well, darn near anything can be made fast if that is your goal. People even race Civics, although they'd be hard pressed to get them UP to that "light weight" of 3400 pounds, lol. The new ones are getting up to 3K stock, so maybe someday.
One of hardest things to modify is weight distribution, tho, unless you make it heavier. I have known of people relocating suspension points and motor mounts, then you might be able to make one heck of a well handling sleeper, but that is a lot of work and you really have to know what you are doing.
M5? Why not just use the Veyron as your example, those are fat pigs also.
are you on coke? that car would easily be fixed cause with new cars are meant to buckle so you would buy a new one and the metal is MUCH thinner than that chevelle so there would be more damage
Why use water-filled barriers when you can use concrete ones? Absolutely freaking brilliant idea....
Once again proof that just because you can afford a hot car doesn't mean you have ANY business driving one.
Jerry Hurst the torque made him lost controll of the car. doesnt have anything to do with driving skills. shit happends.
If it was me I'd have said "NO THANKS" as soon as I saw those concrete barricades. Who's the dunce who thought that one up? Ever hear of hay bales?
Why is this Chevelle on that track in the first place? Are there no drag strips in the area?
My 69 chevelle handled like crap in the corners too. Now my 77 chevy malibu cornered like a dirt oval modified. Bad ass.