That’s dope!! And very true, if you have decent mechanic skills can work on your own bike, you can get a great used bike for less than any of the bikes in this video
Mean to add that the State Bike Company, as per the "romanticized favorite" is a nice maker worth looking into. I've got their 1970 styled 8-speed road bike and I used it to blast through 35 pounds of weight during the course of around ten months. Rode it all through winter. You really do get back to basics without the fluff or high tech with these models.
Happy to see 99 spokes firing up the youtube videos. Would love to see e-commuter bikes get listed. I'm always torn between a lot of factors with them. I feel like the ride1up is the best all arounder though.
The Al- City Big Block I wish I knew about before getting my bike built, It has an 11 speed shimano hub gear that needed an adjustable chain tension-er, These two are perfect for each other.
I guess it depends on what you prioritize on your commute, if it’s purely comfort than I’d agree, but if speed/efficiency are factors I’d probably choose one of these
@@99spokes I agree but speed can't be much of a factor - I don't want to get sweaty and in most cities bike paths are often interupted so it's hard to make a time difference with speed because of stopping often. But I have no idea of bike infrastructure outside of europe
@@99spokes I think a difference in culture plays a part here. Speed is not a factor for day to day commutes here in the Netherlands. And why should it? We use the bike to get to work (in office wear), do our groceries and take the kids to school. Our advanced cycling infrastructure allows us to safely get from anywhere to everywhere. Cycling is a means of getting around for us. In North America, it seems you should be quite a sporty chap to get on a bike to commute. Distances are far greater, and may contain burdensome sections of road. So I imagine speed and efficiency come into play, to straighten out the journey. The patchy infrastructure for cycling in North America means getting around safely can be challenging (hence the helmet we do not usually wear in The Netherlands).
Im from Berlin and here you often have long routes to work or friends. If you dont take any public transportation and want to get there only with your bike then having one of these is a real game changer
I would personally love a dutch bike, but I need more gear range and a lighter frame for the hills around here, speaking as someone who has used and loved a hub gear system.
I have some points to add. 1. The preamble in its first itteration is having many issues with parts breaking within 2 months. 2. State is known for poor quality control only buy it from a bike shop. 3. All city is closing down production so the big block might be very hard to get and replacement parts may be become further difficult. 4. A 90s mountain bike will cost you $300 no one will steal it and you can find them at your local bike coop.
If you're on a budget, your best bet is definitely the used market. You can get a higher end used bike for the same or lower price as some of these new bikes here, and, unlike used cars, it really doesn't take much money or effort to get them back to like new, or even better than new condition.
Definitely! We just did a video where we went to the used market with $500 and built the best MTB we could, check out out ruclips.net/video/TgXgPjR2Ak8/видео.htmlsi=CS2BbVxnYYsrzPjK
For best comfort, there is no match for trek verve 2. You sit on it and damn.... You feel it right away. I tried all the bikes in that range for commuting, took some test drives. But as soon as i sat on verve 2, i didn't even need to take a test drive. Its geometry and seat quality is just superb.
Agreed. For commuting (unless you want to haul ass) the Verve is a better choice than the FX from Trek. Can accommodate wider, more supple tires and sits you more comfortably upright for a better view of traffic.
I agree with Page and Bonham. I also get Plant hating on Stairway. Artists frequently hate on their most popular song as they never get a break from playing it.
Good question! They’re comfortable, but not very fast or efficient. Those are what’s often called “cruiser” bikes, which are optimized for comfort and ease, whereas commuters bridge the gap between that and a more performance oriented bike like a road or mountain bike
Dutch bikes! They're by far the best bikes for simple commuting. Nice, upright riding position, front and rear lights, fenders, low maintenance, can survive an atomic blast, and they have a rack on the back that can hold a ton of stuff with the right accessoires.
As someone who doesn’t do a ton of bike commuting, is there a difference between the “mud guards” on the Kona and a standard fender on a bike like the Elliston?
@@99spokes It depends. If no fenders, your back and lower is going to get smashed by rain and puddles water, else from rear wheel. Like heavily soaked. If fenders are flimsy they will rub against the wheel, wobbling and so on. And if fenders are too short, they do nothing. I have seen 10K Euro made by Germans cargo bike with this defective fenders and owner has to make it longer on his own dime. If fender end is below the wheel axle (on the back) - it is for real.
@@99spokeskostyafedot551 speaks the truth. My hybrid commuter came with what looked like pretty damned good sturdy plastic mudguards front and rear. Not those silly pointless MTB type ones either. But I soon discovered that because the rear guards ended a good bit higher than the axle, my back ended up covered in dirty road spray in bad weather. I got a pair of old fashioned galvanised Dutch style guards which went well below the rear axle and no more problems with a dirty back on wet and windy rides. Also went a long way to keeping my bike trailers (I have 3) clean as well. And also helped to keep my panniers cleaner too! A win, win, win. ☺️👍
Hmm, maybe you have an older model, the latest FX 2 Disc has a 2x9 drivetrain www.trekbikes.com/us/en_US/bikes/hybrid-bikes/fitness-bikes/fx/fx-2-disc/p/35003/?colorCode=greydark
The State Bicycle Co. step-thru version is available only in PINK. How disappointing! As a 76-year-old male, I'm not going to be throwing my leg over a saddle anymore--or over the rack, or a basket or box atop the rack on the rear of a bike. (LOL) Isn't it time we move BEYOND all this male/female/step-thru/color crap when it comes to bikes?!?!?!? (I thought this was the 21ST century.) LATER (Dec 19 2024): I actually wrote to State and asked them if they were (hopefully) moving away from the pink color in next year's step-thru model. And, Surprise, Surprise! They are! They don't have an exact ETA but they thought it might be "beginning/middle of the year." And they mentioned 3 possible colors, all pretty NEUTRAL.
i love bikes because they're easy to steal and fun to ride;) ive never made a purchase that was even remotely bike related, i have a bike collection of about 15 bikes currently.
1000 is WAYYY to much for a bike. Realisticly they shouldn’t be more than 150 unless you using special materials at that point. Cuz wtf they are so old and there’s so many of them. That’s really stupid how they just never go down in price 💀
@@99spokes actually, I want to know how much you effectively know about commuting and the needs of a citizen using a city bike. How often do you commute?
How can you take this channel seriously when they misspelled Surly? I dont really like the Surly brand. You just lose some credibility when you edit in a misspelled label.
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I have a trusty motorised bike i built for about 240 cad, and i agree that you dont need an expensive bike to get around!
That’s dope!! And very true, if you have decent mechanic skills can work on your own bike, you can get a great used bike for less than any of the bikes in this video
How have you done that
Mean to add that the State Bike Company, as per the "romanticized favorite" is a nice maker worth looking into. I've got their 1970 styled 8-speed road bike and I used it to blast through 35 pounds of weight during the course of around ten months. Rode it all through winter. You really do get back to basics without the fluff or high tech with these models.
Happy to see 99 spokes firing up the youtube videos. Would love to see e-commuter bikes get listed. I'm always torn between a lot of factors with them. I feel like the ride1up is the best all arounder though.
You sir are in luck! Check back this Friday 🤙
The Al- City Big Block I wish I knew about before getting my bike built, It has an 11 speed shimano hub gear that needed an adjustable chain tension-er,
These two are perfect for each other.
I would take old dutch city bike over these any day. Commuting is much better when you can sit more upright
I guess it depends on what you prioritize on your commute, if it’s purely comfort than I’d agree, but if speed/efficiency are factors I’d probably choose one of these
@@99spokes I agree but speed can't be much of a factor - I don't want to get sweaty and in most cities bike paths are often interupted so it's hard to make a time difference with speed because of stopping often. But I have no idea of bike infrastructure outside of europe
@@99spokes I think a difference in culture plays a part here. Speed is not a factor for day to day commutes here in the Netherlands. And why should it? We use the bike to get to work (in office wear), do our groceries and take the kids to school. Our advanced cycling infrastructure allows us to safely get from anywhere to everywhere. Cycling is a means of getting around for us. In North America, it seems you should be quite a sporty chap to get on a bike to commute. Distances are far greater, and may contain burdensome sections of road. So I imagine speed and efficiency come into play, to straighten out the journey. The patchy infrastructure for cycling in North America means getting around safely can be challenging (hence the helmet we do not usually wear in The Netherlands).
Im from Berlin and here you often have long routes to work or friends. If you dont take any public transportation and want to get there only with your bike then having one of these is a real game changer
I would personally love a dutch bike, but I need more gear range and a lighter frame for the hills around here, speaking as someone who has used and loved a hub gear system.
Have a kona dew for two years. Great frame for carrying weight , comfortable and can handle some single track.
Nice!!
I have some points to add. 1. The preamble in its first itteration is having many issues with parts breaking within 2 months. 2. State is known for poor quality control only buy it from a bike shop. 3. All city is closing down production so the big block might be very hard to get and replacement parts may be become further difficult. 4. A 90s mountain bike will cost you $300 no one will steal it and you can find them at your local bike coop.
Thanks for adding your take 🤙
If you're on a budget, your best bet is definitely the used market. You can get a higher end used bike for the same or lower price as some of these new bikes here, and, unlike used cars, it really doesn't take much money or effort to get them back to like new, or even better than new condition.
Definitely! We just did a video where we went to the used market with $500 and built the best MTB we could, check out out ruclips.net/video/TgXgPjR2Ak8/видео.htmlsi=CS2BbVxnYYsrzPjK
I'm male and I use a bike for women (with seat for males). It's perfect. I don't understand why bikes for males have that upper frame bar
I'm sad to see that the giant escape did not make the list I used to have a giant escape 3 and it was excellent for riding through the city commuting
Still a great bike 🤙
I got a Sirrus X. Gonna upgrade some parts when stock ones wear out, but overall it's damn perfect for city commuting.
I would add the Priority bikes such as the Eight and the Turi. Just under $1000 with carbon belt. But I’ve never owned one.
Good call, thanks!
Great video. You should’ve picked the trek verve 3 over the fx 2 though. Especially since you called it the “comfort” option.
For best comfort, there is no match for trek verve 2. You sit on it and damn.... You feel it right away. I tried all the bikes in that range for commuting, took some test drives. But as soon as i sat on verve 2, i didn't even need to take a test drive. Its geometry and seat quality is just superb.
That’s awesome, glad you found something that works well for you!
Agreed. For commuting (unless you want to haul ass) the Verve is a better choice than the FX from Trek. Can accommodate wider, more supple tires and sits you more comfortably upright for a better view of traffic.
I agree with Page and Bonham. I also get Plant hating on Stairway. Artists frequently hate on their most popular song as they never get a break from playing it.
Why not one of those cruiser bikes like an Electra townie? Are those not good for commuting? They look really comfortable, please educate me.
Good question! They’re comfortable, but not very fast or efficient. Those are what’s often called “cruiser” bikes, which are optimized for comfort and ease, whereas commuters bridge the gap between that and a more performance oriented bike like a road or mountain bike
do a bikepacking bikes video. would watch
Dutch bikes! They're by far the best bikes for simple commuting. Nice, upright riding position, front and rear lights, fenders, low maintenance, can survive an atomic blast, and they have a rack on the back that can hold a ton of stuff with the right accessoires.
The best value commuter bike list not having a random cheap Walmart bike is wild. Commuter just gotta go around places
Mud guards are must if you are committed to commute. Kona knows, the rest without it, who knows 😅
As someone who doesn’t do a ton of bike commuting, is there a difference between the “mud guards” on the Kona and a standard fender on a bike like the Elliston?
@@99spokes It depends. If no fenders, your back and lower is going to get smashed by rain and puddles water, else from rear wheel. Like heavily soaked. If fenders are flimsy they will rub against the wheel, wobbling and so on. And if fenders are too short, they do nothing. I have seen 10K Euro made by Germans cargo bike with this defective fenders and owner has to make it longer on his own dime. If fender end is below the wheel axle (on the back) - it is for real.
@@99spokeskostyafedot551 speaks the truth. My hybrid commuter came with what looked like pretty damned good sturdy plastic mudguards front and rear. Not those silly pointless MTB type ones either.
But I soon discovered that because the rear guards ended a good bit higher than the axle, my back ended up covered in dirty road spray in bad weather.
I got a pair of old fashioned galvanised Dutch style guards which went well below the rear axle and no more problems with a dirty back on wet and windy rides.
Also went a long way to keeping my bike trailers (I have 3) clean as well.
And also helped to keep my panniers cleaner too!
A win, win, win. ☺️👍
The Trek FX2 Disc comes with a 2x9 drivetrain, not a 3x6. It's also bumpy as heck and can only handle paved roads.
Hmm, maybe you have an older model, the latest FX 2 Disc has a 2x9 drivetrain www.trekbikes.com/us/en_US/bikes/hybrid-bikes/fitness-bikes/fx/fx-2-disc/p/35003/?colorCode=greydark
@@99spokes You said 6 in the rear, three in the front in your own video. They were correcting you, not claiming they have a 3x6z
@@MrThejunkmanHe's not just missing part of a tooth.
Is there any less than 100? Im broke
No Mini Velo?
Why you guys dont include giant ?
Exactly the giant escape is a great commuter bike
Top 5 folding bikes!
Good idea!
The State Bicycle Co. step-thru version is available only in PINK. How disappointing! As a 76-year-old male, I'm not going to be throwing my leg over a saddle anymore--or over the rack, or a basket or box atop the rack on the rear of a bike. (LOL) Isn't it time we move BEYOND all this male/female/step-thru/color crap when it comes to bikes?!?!?!? (I thought this was the 21ST century.)
LATER (Dec 19 2024): I actually wrote to State and asked them if they were (hopefully) moving away from the pink color in next year's step-thru model. And, Surprise, Surprise! They are! They don't have an exact ETA but they thought it might be "beginning/middle of the year." And they mentioned 3 possible colors, all pretty NEUTRAL.
How do you guys not have many subscribers? Seriously...
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if you're only going to put one brake on a fixie then it should go in front
Macargo en la Kona
0 cons unless you live in the midwest lol
i love bikes because they're easy to steal and fun to ride;) ive never made a purchase that was even remotely bike related, i have a bike collection of about 15 bikes currently.
Nobody likes you
DeFAILeurs on a commuter?? NOPE.
SA Drum brakes. YUP.
1000 is WAYYY to much for a bike. Realisticly they shouldn’t be more than 150 unless you using special materials at that point. Cuz wtf they are so old and there’s so many of them. That’s really stupid how they just never go down in price 💀
And a car for $20k, can you even imagine?! I mean those things have been around since the 18 hundreds and they’re basically the same thing…
Jokes on you walking is free
🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡
lets see you walk 30km one way
A city bike that costs more than $300 is just stupid and pointless
I guess it depends on how and how often you plan to use it 🤷♂️
@@99spokes No bro, there's no excuse, stfu
@@99spokes actually, I want to know how much you effectively know about commuting and the needs of a citizen using a city bike. How often do you commute?
Bikes for Rich people.
How can you take this channel seriously when they misspelled Surly? I dont really like the Surly brand. You just lose some credibility when you edit in a misspelled label.
You mean "simple" when talking about the second bike. . Not "simplistic". Look it up.