On a Nikon DSLR like my D850 I do this with an iPhone or iPad mini with the SnapBridge app, wirelessly transmitting using Live View and you have all controls for camera functionality. Thank for your great video
Great timing Duade, I’ve started looking into a monitor. I’ve been getting down and dirty on the local pond and these cold mornings are giving my neck grief! I’ll probably go with just a basic screen for now, I don’t have a need to record the screen. Nobody needs to see all my mistakes!!
Thanks again! I just happen to have bought an external recording monitor for my OM-1 Mark II. I am just waiting on the proper hdmi cable to arrive. I am hoping it will help me with the bird videos that I shoot, but I see now from this video it can also be useful for stills. This was just what I needed to help me get started. - Mick Thompson, Seattle Washington.
Duade I struggle a little with age-related eyesight on macros compared to years ago. The larger monitor would be perfect for this and flower shots too. Thanks and cheers.
Thanks for the information. I don’t plan on using a monitor anytime soon, but it is interesting to see how to add one and use it. Always appreciate you sharing your knowledge and experience.
I cant thank you enough after struggling with carpal tunnel cause by low level photography contorting my neck and 6 months of physio you have saved my future....off to buy now!!!!
Good that you are talking about pain issues. Pain is a huge problem for myself so I have to work with that in mind. The hide I have has caused neck pain to increase, but using a monitor avoids that problem. I do astrophotography and use a laptop to monitor an astro modified Canon camera and a tablet with app to monitor a Nikon. Thanks for posting
Best video so far... I've been searching for a video on this subject but to no avail. I would like to use a monitor for photography only. Using my iphone as a monitor creates some lag. Thanks for the video
Another font of info, Duade - thanks for the insights on monitors! I appreciated your take on them & the many great shots you shared; some very nice Robin images. I think the one with the rain captured was probably my favorite. I can't see myself using a monitor due to my usual style of shooting & the extra weight & imbalance, but I can see how for some, they might be just the ticket. If I shot video with any regularity, I could surely see them being a benefit. Thanks again for giving us more angles to consider in regards to our photography & may those Robins keep showing up near you for more opportunities! Best regards & good shooting ~ Chris
Thanks Chris, yes, very lucky to have those Robins here, so beautiful. Yes, If I wasn't filming I probably would not use the monitor all that often but I know some people may find them very useful. Cheers, Duade
Thanks for mentioning the 3 point contact when using the EVF instead of the monitor or the LCD screen for that matter. It really helps to stabilize the camera.
@@cloudpandarism2627 I like this channel and Duade takes good photos, just looked like he wanted to give an example of taking photos low to the ground with an external monitor and showed a throwaway photo to illustrate that, just my opinion.
Thank you for a great video. Personally I get information overload and even though I’m well past the basics, getting a review on use like this is refreshing as it becomes indelible the more you see and use in practice. 😊
Duade thanks for tips. I use the Feelworld Field Monitor on my Z7 for the purpose of videoing myself when public speaking. The monitor is facing me so that I can correctly set up the scene and then when recording I can make sure I am not stepping out of the frame by simply glancing over at the monitor screen. I have not yet used it for nature and wildlife shooting, but I can see a purpose for vlogging.
Thanks Duade. I bought a Godox GM6S yesterday in Sydney. Using it with my Z9. Excellent. Also got the remote cable to access camera functions on monitor screen. Cheers.
I’m Sony shooter and have consistently used the Ninja V monitor for over 3-years. Both my camera and the Ninja V are equipped with SmallRig cages. These cages secure the HDMI cable to both devices and prevents accidental damage from bumps. Additionally, my monitor is fitted with a SmallRig sunshield, which enhances contrast and color display.
Timely as always. Thanks. I’ve been seriously looking into getting a monitor. My original thoughts were to use it solely as a video monitor. Your discussion here just opened other doors to creativity in me. Cheers. P.S. mind the back. I too sometimes struggle with similar challenges. Wear and tear of life I guess.
Duade, a very interesting concept. I don't have one but your video suggests that they might be good when photographing birds or animals in the natural settings. I think the weight can be a problem for me as I have a similar back ache when handholding a large camera and lens. So, thank you for the inventive use of video gear for stills and capture the EVF actions.
Thanks Stuart, yes, they have a specific use case and I mainly use the EVF but have found it useful at times. My back really does play up when using it out in front though. Cheers, Duade
@@Duade Hi Duade it would be great to see a video on your thoughts on gear for the older birder ie those of us who have knee or hip problems making in harder to get down low or suffer from back pain or arthiritic shoulders, wrists etc. I also like to travel a lot in SE Asia but the Sony 200-600 is becoming too much to lug around (and disguise the weight of my carryon bag). Is the OM-1 and 100-400mm the answer?
Thanks for the informative video. My biggest concern is the ability to see the monitor on a bright sunny day. I find the Sony A7RIV and A7RV displays not bright enough to see detail, even in Sunny mode.
Good point David and I should have tested that but I cannot recall it ever being an issue but I often don't shoot in the middle of the day. I think you can get a hood for the monitor to help shield it from the sun. There are also brighter screens available. Cheers, Duade
Thanks Duade for the video. Beautiful shots of the Robin 😊 they’re not as stunning here in the UK but they still make a great image. I have been using the Atomos Shinobi monitor for a year or so on occasions on my R5 and R6 Mk2 which is great and just like your Ninja without the hard drive. Picked one up last year for £299. I use the big Anton Bauer battery on mine with the Manfrotto mini ball head. I used it the other day on a tripod to get some flight shots of birds coming onto the feeders. Gives more chance of catching the shot due to the peripheral vision you get as you say. Cheers 😊
Hi Duade. I have a Canon R7 and it has a Zebra setting and I can't imagine that the other EOS R models don't have this. I also use a Godox GM6S 5.5" 4K HDMI Ultra Bright on-camera monitor that has touch screen capabilities with an extra cable. The Godox monitor itself also has a Zebra setting and much more! I only use the monitor for filming in the field and photograph at setups with feed silo and specially placed branches and trunks, whether or not covered with moss. I only photograph flying birds looking through the viewfinder, because an on-camera monitor is just as unsuitable for that as the screen on the back of your camera!
G'day Henk, I believe the zebras only work in video mode, not stills which I was referring too. I have yet to find a Canon body that allows zebras in stills which Sony, Olympus offer. I am happy to be corrected of course. Thanks for the feedback, Cheers, Duade
Thanks for another great and really interesting video. To be honest it never entered my head that one of these might be a good idea - just thought it was something you needed to record EVF info and add to your videos. Of course now you've got me thinking - no need for me to record but maybe the Portkeys PT6 or similar and that Smallrig mount. I'm definitely getting to old for lying on the ground and straining my neck to look through a viewfinder! Really interesting to read other comments and see what equipment other members/subscribers are using. Thanks again. John
My pleasure John, yes, it is worth considering, I think some people also use their phones but takes some setting up to work properly. It is an option for when you are stationary that is for sure, just a bit difficult handheld etc. Cheers, Duade
I used to use a tablet tethered to my old DSLR. It worked a treat. It was touch screen when the DSLR wasn't. Luckily there was an app that provided the functionality. The tablet was great when shooting stills, not action shots. I did a lot of astro at the time and it was easier to manually focus with the larger screen. I thought the articulating screen on my R6 would make a monitor redundant but it is still too small. So I'm pleased to see there is an option. Too bad it loses the touchscreen ability.
Duade. I use a monitor with my R7. The camera LCD can be set to using your thumb on it to move the focal point around and it does appear moving on the monitor. I have the zone to be the right half of the LCD screen. Works slick. Check it out. You're so right on the advantages of a monitor. I love it for the low shots and it really helps with better composition.
I bought the Portkeys PT6 on Jan's advice in his video around 6 weeks ago but haven't used it yet. Won't get an opportunity for another 5 weeks as I've had abdominal surgery (hernia) and not allowed to lift (ruling out the R3 and 500f4 combination). Sucks to be me! It's already been 3 weeks without using the combination in anger, so 8 weeks...hell on Earth!!!
One question. Does it follow the orientation of the camera? If you do portrait shots(vertical orientation), will the liveview of the external monitor change to vertical also? And so with the picture taken in portrait(vertical) orientation)?
@@amrizul You mean, angles that the LCD on the back can not easily be tilted to. Or when it's perhaps inconvenient to flip out a fully articulating screen?
@@Mathieu_Matheow_Benoit But when you do not need recording, what advantages would it have over the LCD on the back of the camera besides size? Brightness perhaps? I don't know.
Hi Tim, the LCD works find the majority of the time, often its position can be a little arkward depending on brand. Canon is off to the side and tilted and I prefer the monitor on top looking at the subject, the size is also a bonus. But if the LCD works for you then no real need for a monitor. Cheers, Duade
Great video. Thanks. I got the PT6 last week after watching Jan’s video and so far it has worked OK. I’m still struggling with sun glare but it’s probably something I’m doing wrong. And like you, I suffer from the back, so it will be used on a tripod.
Any more Olympus vids coming up soon? That's next on my list of camera gear to buy. I'd really like to see a comparison to the Cannon's for bird AI and how well it tracks targets.
Hi Riley, yes, I plan on doing that video later in the month early next month as I have the Nikon Z8 coming soon which I need to focus on first. The OM-1 is a brilliant camera and I look forward to doing some comparisons. Cheers, Duade
Your videos are so easy to understand, thanks a bunch Duade 🙂 I use the Portkeys 6 and I have a harness on to carry the load on my shoulders via 2 straps either side of the camera and my lower back never has issues. I have never used the view finder to catch the birds in flight everything runs through the monitor.
Thanks for yet another excellent video. Brightness and angle of view are also important factors for outdoor use. Personally, I prefer brighter and larger monitors and I have a Desview R72 (7 inches, 2600 nits). My typical use case is when using a tripod with an inverted center column to have the camera at ground (or water) level, or any other situation where I can't use the viewfinder. In these situations, I usually attach the monitor to the tripod so that I can sit still behind the tripod while swinging the camera left and right.
Thank you very much for this video. I've considering getting a Ninja V for my OM-1 to show what's happening on my screen also, but the price kind of drives me away. The other uses you mention do add a fair amount to the balance though, and I might just pull the trigger on that purchase soon haha
Nice video. I shoot mostly birds but use my Feelworld Monitor to eliminate a lot of duplicates and out of focus shots before loading them to my computer. Much easier than using the evf.
You should get a cage like of SmallRig brand. Tilting it down might hurt the hotshoe if repeated many times. Plus you can mount a trigger(if ever you will need) while you have that external monitor as you will be able to attach more.
Having seen this video, I pulled the trigger for the Atomos Shinobi II and so far, I am quite happy with it. I would prefer to have the HDMI on the side of the monitor, but I‘ll get over it 🤓
2:45 - you would think for the price you are paying for the unit they would include a mount for the hot shoe. Not in my budget but may look at one of these in the near future for my photo work.
I use a monitor because I do astrophotography and I need a larger image than what the lcd can provide. Mine is a 7" Raspberry Pi monitor, USB powered. I plug it into a power bank. For mounting it, I have it mounted to the tripod - I have a bicycle mount magnet for tablets and smartphones clamped onto the tripod, and I placed a neodymium plate on the back of the monitor. Holds it very snugly. I also have an 11" Raspberry Pi monitor for using when I'm tracking. Same mounting method, but I have to use a portable power station with standard electrical outlets to power it. I don't remember the brands of either monitor, but I spent well under $200 for both of them together.
Are you able to do a tutorial on how you were able to get your Sony camera to push video to the external monitor in the camera settings? Im only able to get the external push while in video mode, but definitely want to experiment with recording video while shooting.
Not gonna get this particular extra thing, but I found this video both interesting and informative none the less. Now to the essentials: I got a name for the Cockatiel softie (that I need to work on, since I've already forgotten it... not a name person, me) AND another new softie family member: a bin chicken! Got a name? It seems quite on top of the world, swinging its legs and waving its wings😄 About positions that'll wreak havoc on the old body: filming with the 7D & 7DII! Since the viewfinder turns black and they lack moveable lcd screen, one had to lift the camera so the screen is on eye level AND thrust the arms outwards until your eyesight is able to focus... No wonder my videos with those bodies were few and far between and also extremely shaky. Made my videos from Alaska to mainly slideshows, and the footage from St Paul island painful to watch. I SHOULD'VE bought another cheap videocam for that trip (that was back in June 2017)! (Or lugged a tripod around on the trip... which I didn't)
I have been dabbling with an app called Monitor+ that converts my cellphone into a monitor. It works with both an HDMI cable (needs a converter) and a USB cable (also needs a cheap USB-A to USB-C adapter because the camera takes USB-micro). It's quirky and holding the phone in the correct position with the cheap accessories I use is a task but it gives me a larger screen than the rear LCD and a lot of monitor-like functionality. Plus it's cheaper! Also there are OEM apps like Imaging Edge that are free.
Hi Duade. Thanks for the useful information. Recording the EVF is obviously essential for you. Other than that, I think it’s worth considering simply using the articulated screen, which is smaller but keeps the touch-screen and other functionality.
@@wellsyboy He meant it's worth using the built-in screen on the camera rather than the viewfinder. However, I've found taking photos in sunlight very difficult, even while using the screen on the A7iii that I use (I don't use the viewfinder at all). So that's why I want an external display and how I ended up on this video 😅
Hi..I love the small Tripod on the table..can you tell me the name of it please? Also I am so bummed that you cant use the back of the monitor when plugged into a external monitor. I have a new canon R8 and it does not have the toggle to move the autofocus points. I now have to use the focus button, hold it and move the camera to track the subject. Not so great on a tripod. Can't believe Canon would leave out this feature. Great video. thanks
Hi Duade, thanks again for a great video & info on the monitors. I've mentioned to you earlier of my back issues & extensive surgery so your mentioning of your back issues helps me no end in this matter. I don't recall you mentioning the visibility aspects of the monitor, I guess I'm not alone in having problems seeing the screens on my cameras in bright sunlight, I see some monitors come with a velcro shade which could be helpful. I'm now about to see if a monitor is available to use on my 90D, although after watching your clips I think an R6 mkii is getting closer. Thanks again mate, if you have any knowledge of the 90D + monitor it would be appreciated.
G'day George, I have not had any major issues in the sun but I rarely shoot after 9am and before 3pm so I have not fully tested it in full sunlight but as you say you can get a hood for it. 90D should work but I think the FPS will be restricted. I hope someone with a 90D can comment. Cheers, Duade
Interesting! When I have setup at water I naturally just want to use the back screen of my camera but I end up getting worried i'll miss the shot and end up looking down the viewfinder when the birds arrive. This video proves to me you don't have to be glued to the EVF, especially with the help of eye tracking makes it really easy to focus on framing the photo. P.S. those are my favourite scarlet robin photos that you have ever taken!
Thanks Kurtis, I must admit I do like looking down the EVF but the monitor does work well on a tripod at setups. Yes, very lucky to have the Scarlet visit. Cheers, Duade
Thanks for sharing another wonderful video like always, I have a very nice monitor by Godox, it does not record but its very useful for those bright days 👍🐦🤗
Thanks for a wonderfully informative video! I'm exploring getting a monitor-only (like the Shinobi 7) for my Nikon Z9 for still photography. My immediate need is for the upcoming eclipse: I need to zoom in during Live View to get the most accurate manual focus on sunspots. In your experience with the Canon and Sony cameras, can you still hit the "+" button on the camera to zoom in during Live View? Or perhaps you can do that on the Ninja? Nikon SnapBridge on the iPad disables all camera controls (while providing precious few of its own in exchange). Thanks, Steve
Thanks Duade. I had never considered these before and now I know how they can be used. With a bad back and being used to my own routine I don't think it would work for me. Thanks very much for a well presented video.
Great show, Duade. Thank you. I was hoping that these would work on my Canon 7d. But you mentioned that it would lower the fps. I'm not sure where to check that info, but I will try to find it. Thank you again. Your explanations, demonstrations, and information are great.
After having done a couple of hide shootings, combining my R5 with the Ninja V (had one laying around for videography anyways) and a solid cable shutter release helped a lot.
I have cateracts in both eyes and would love to have a monitor. However my camera (a lumix fz300) has the hdmi port in the main handle. this means that it would be impossible to hold and operate the controls with the cable sticking out into my palm. Just a point to be aware of where is the hdmi port located.
G'day they are called Skimmer Ground POds, they are very expensive for what they are and many people make their own from frying pans and other items. Good luck, Cheers, Duade
Thank you Duade. Very informative video. I can see that a monitor will not work well for birds in flight. What I use for birds in flight is a dot sight, which is, like the monitor, placed on the hot shoe of the camera. Advantage is you can easily use two eyes when using it. My hit rate improved substantially with It. I use the Olympus EE-1 dot sight on my OM-1 camera. Very easy to align with the camera without any tools. It uses a very small button cell battery and weights almost nothing. Jan.
Speaking of monitors. I’m thinking of getting a larger monitor to use when editing. My eyes aren’t getting any younger. I was thinking about a curved monitor but have no idea if that would be good for editing. I also am not sure about resolution. Any opinion on that?
G'day. great question and a tough one to answer. I use a 4k 27"monitor but find the text a bit small, I think you really need a 30"+ monitor for 4k. If you have a 1440p monitor 27"is fine. I have not used a curved monitor so unsure about those. I have always used Dell and waited for their sales. Cheers, Duade
@@Duade thank you for the input. My son worked for Dell for years so that’s what I have now. I’ll probably stick with that. I am thinking 32” after your comment about 27” text. Might as well Spring for the best resolution possible too. I appreciate you taking the time to respond.
I’m wondering if I’ll be able to balance my gimbal with a field monitor. I really hope so. I learned a lot from the video, but there’s so much to learn. Anyway, thanks.
Thanks for the great video. I just bought a Feelworld T7 to use on my Olympus OM-1. I see you shoot with Olympus also. I was wondering if you have the same issue I have with this combination. With the monitor connected, when I select the playback button on the camera, the monitor and the touch screen go blank. I can toggle the screens back on by pushing the playback button a second time.
Hi nice post. I’m a wildflower photographer mostly shooting low to ground orchids, etc. I don’t have flippy screen so though monitor might be useful for me BUT I mostly shoot vertical portrait mode so not sure if I can. Tilt monitor 90 degrees rather than having to tilt my head to see monitor…not sure if I’ve explained clearly…thx Isaac
Great video. subbed. I do have a Ninja without the hard drive. Had it for a few months....need to set it up. That's garbage that you can't use touch screen. Looks like I'll be using it on my GH5 only. Your photos are BEAUTIFUL.
Funny enough I have a friend who is an ex-videographer and he was getting rid of gear and he gave me a monitor ... I have no idea what brand it is or what it can do but I need to play around with it. I thought they were only useful for shooting videos and I know some RUclipsrs such as yourself who use them to record the settings from the evf on their cameras. Now I've got a project for the weekend! 😁
Thanks Duade, this might indeed also be an interesting use case for the many of us who just shoot stills and don't have our own youtube. Especially for shooting waterbirds as low as possible, and when using a tripod or sitting in a hide. Just wondering how easy it is to attach and detach several times while hiking a full day and only taking out the tripod or getting low say 5 times during that day. Would it be worth the overhead ? and how's the risk of breaking the tiny micro-hdmi connection ?
I use the Lumix DMC GX85. How can I fix that the camera switched to video preview when connecting an hdmi monitor? It changes the aspect ratio to 16:9 and additionally crops in a bit. I what the preview to remain in photography mode.ä aka uncropped 4:3. Raw files are technically uneffected but Lightroom will still apply the crop from the camera when importing them.
IfI choose a touchscreen monitor like the Atomos Ninja 5.2 $K HDMI Recording Monitor, will I be able to control the settings of my camera using the touchscreen? Or the same situation remains? The settings can only be changed using the camera dials and bottons? Thank you for your excellent review.
Great tutorial for people who'd like to follow your footsteps in sharing their viewfinder content, which I always appreciate so much in your gear reviews! For Canon users there is a dirt cheap alternative though. An Android app CCC Pro (and a free version to try) connected via wifi or even a cable (USB-B to USB-C in my case) to a phone put on a cold shoe mount will cost less than A$15 and gives you a touchscreen with touch to focus even on old cameras like 7D2 and instant transfer of each photo taken to the phone. It was a game changer for me when I switched from M50 with touchscreen and WiFi to the 7D2...
@Duade Paton well you still can try with the free version of the app and just cable. I'm pretty sure it would even work on your 40D and if you had an app recording your screen (like for app tutrials), you could do that onto your phone storage. It would be limited to your phone screen resolution though.
A couple of questions: How clear is the image in the monitor in bright daylight? Regarding the tripod and ball head that is shown here: Who makes it? Would be interested in looking into it. Thanks.
great video ..... one question no one seems to explain how to save phtos to ninja harddrive .... also getting a plain screen on ninja without serrings on screen being saved ...hope you time to advise me for my ninja to work well with my canon r6 thanks alot ...regards david
Really interesting and informative Duade, thanks. Re handling the setup and back issues, have you tried using a monopod to support the rig rather than hand holding? It might reduce the tension in your arms and body and give some stability.
On a Nikon DSLR like my D850 I do this with an iPhone or iPad mini with the SnapBridge app, wirelessly transmitting using Live View and you have all controls for camera functionality.
Thank for your great video
Great timing Duade, I’ve started looking into a monitor. I’ve been getting down and dirty on the local pond and these cold mornings are giving my neck grief! I’ll probably go with just a basic screen for now, I don’t have a need to record the screen. Nobody needs to see all my mistakes!!
Good luck Phil, they can come in useful that is for sure, I can relate re the sore neck. Cheers, Duade
Yes just note basic non record models are not bright enough outdoor use…
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Hi so I was wondering if I can use my tv as a monitor?
You're always friendly, helpful, and informative Duade! RUclips success couldn't happen to a nicer guy. Best of luck to you!
Thanks again! I just happen to have bought an external recording monitor for my OM-1 Mark II. I am just waiting on the proper hdmi cable to arrive. I am hoping it will help me with the bird videos that I shoot, but I see now from this video it can also be useful for stills. This was just what I needed to help me get started. - Mick Thompson, Seattle Washington.
Thanks Mick, glad it was helpful, have fun with it out there, Cheers, Duade
Thanks!
Thanks Marisa, I appreciate it. Cheers, Duade 👍
Duade I struggle a little with age-related eyesight on macros compared to years ago. The larger monitor would be perfect for this and flower shots too. Thanks and cheers.
Thanks for the information. I don’t plan on using a monitor anytime soon, but it is interesting to see how to add one and use it. Always appreciate you sharing your knowledge and experience.
I cant thank you enough after struggling with carpal tunnel cause by low level photography contorting my neck and 6 months of physio you have saved my future....off to buy now!!!!
Good that you are talking about pain issues. Pain is a huge problem for myself so I have to work with that in mind. The hide I have has caused neck pain to increase, but using a monitor avoids that problem. I do astrophotography and use a laptop to monitor an astro modified Canon camera and a tablet with app to monitor a Nikon. Thanks for posting
Great video as always :) I use my monitor mostly for macro, it helps to set focus on small things in difficult places.
Best video so far... I've been searching for a video on this subject but to no avail. I would like to use a monitor for photography only. Using my iphone as a monitor creates some lag. Thanks for the video
Another font of info, Duade - thanks for the insights on monitors! I appreciated your take on them & the many great shots you shared; some very nice Robin images. I think the one with the rain captured was probably my favorite. I can't see myself using a monitor due to my usual style of shooting & the extra weight & imbalance, but I can see how for some, they might be just the ticket. If I shot video with any regularity, I could surely see them being a benefit.
Thanks again for giving us more angles to consider in regards to our photography & may those Robins keep showing up near you for more opportunities! Best regards & good shooting ~ Chris
Thanks Chris, yes, very lucky to have those Robins here, so beautiful. Yes, If I wasn't filming I probably would not use the monitor all that often but I know some people may find them very useful. Cheers, Duade
Thanks for mentioning the 3 point contact when using the EVF instead of the monitor or the LCD screen for that matter. It really helps to stabilize the camera.
8:42min best photo i ever saw from any wildlife channel. jesus the light!!! 😮😵✨✨✨
very little light on the bird...looks like a throwaway picture.
@@Matt90541 very little emotion. looks like a throwaway comment. 👎
@@cloudpandarism2627 I like this channel and Duade takes good photos, just looked like he wanted to give an example of taking photos low to the ground with an external monitor and showed a throwaway photo to illustrate that, just my opinion.
Great video. Duade, thanks for doing this video explaining the pros and cons of field monitors and your choice specifically.
Thank you for a great video. Personally I get information overload and even though I’m well past the basics, getting a review on use like this is refreshing as it becomes indelible the more you see and use in practice. 😊
Duade thanks for tips. I use the Feelworld Field Monitor on my Z7 for the purpose of videoing myself when public speaking. The monitor is facing me so that I can correctly set up the scene and then when recording I can make sure I am not stepping out of the frame by simply glancing over at the monitor screen. I have not yet used it for nature and wildlife shooting, but I can see a purpose for vlogging.
Thanks Duade. I bought a Godox GM6S yesterday in Sydney. Using it with my Z9. Excellent. Also got the remote cable to access camera functions on monitor screen. Cheers.
I’m Sony shooter and have consistently used the Ninja V monitor for over 3-years. Both my camera and the Ninja V are equipped with SmallRig cages. These cages secure the HDMI cable to both devices and prevents accidental damage from bumps. Additionally, my monitor is fitted with a SmallRig sunshield, which enhances contrast and color display.
Timely as always. Thanks. I’ve been seriously looking into getting a monitor. My original thoughts were to use it solely as a video monitor. Your discussion here just opened other doors to creativity in me. Cheers.
P.S. mind the back. I too sometimes struggle with similar challenges. Wear and tear of life I guess.
Duade, a very interesting concept. I don't have one but your video suggests that they might be good when photographing birds or animals in the natural settings. I think the weight can be a problem for me as I have a similar back ache when handholding a large camera and lens. So, thank you for the inventive use of video gear for stills and capture the EVF actions.
Thanks Stuart, yes, they have a specific use case and I mainly use the EVF but have found it useful at times. My back really does play up when using it out in front though. Cheers, Duade
@@Duade Hi Duade it would be great to see a video on your thoughts on gear for the older birder ie those of us who have knee or hip problems making in harder to get down low or suffer from back pain or arthiritic shoulders, wrists etc. I also like to travel a lot in SE Asia but the Sony 200-600 is becoming too much to lug around (and disguise the weight of my carryon bag). Is the OM-1 and 100-400mm the answer?
Thanks for the informative video. My biggest concern is the ability to see the monitor on a bright sunny day. I find the Sony A7RIV and A7RV displays not bright enough to see detail, even in Sunny mode.
Good point David and I should have tested that but I cannot recall it ever being an issue but I often don't shoot in the middle of the day. I think you can get a hood for the monitor to help shield it from the sun. There are also brighter screens available. Cheers, Duade
Thanks for this Duade, I have a DSLR so will have to do a bit more study. It certainly would be helpful when on the ground.
Good luck Lorraine, Cheers, Duade
Thanks Duade for the video. Beautiful shots of the Robin 😊 they’re not as stunning here in the UK but they still make a great image. I have been using the Atomos Shinobi monitor for a year or so on occasions on my R5 and R6 Mk2 which is great and just like your Ninja without the hard drive. Picked one up last year for £299. I use the big Anton Bauer battery on mine with the Manfrotto mini ball head. I used it the other day on a tripod to get some flight shots of birds coming onto the feeders. Gives more chance of catching the shot due to the peripheral vision you get as you say. Cheers 😊
Hi Duade. I have a Canon R7 and it has a Zebra setting and I can't imagine that the other EOS R models don't have this. I also use a Godox GM6S 5.5" 4K HDMI Ultra Bright on-camera monitor that has touch screen capabilities with an extra cable.
The Godox monitor itself also has a Zebra setting and much more!
I only use the monitor for filming in the field and photograph at setups with feed silo and specially placed branches and trunks, whether or not covered with moss.
I only photograph flying birds looking through the viewfinder, because an on-camera monitor is just as unsuitable for that as the screen on the back of your camera!
G'day Henk, I believe the zebras only work in video mode, not stills which I was referring too. I have yet to find a Canon body that allows zebras in stills which Sony, Olympus offer. I am happy to be corrected of course. Thanks for the feedback, Cheers, Duade
I got a portkeys PT6 after Jan’s review and love it. Now I can sit comfortably when shooting images off of my ground pod.
Thanks for another great and really interesting video. To be honest it never entered my head that one of these might be a good idea - just thought it was something you needed to record EVF info and add to your videos. Of course now you've got me thinking - no need for me to record but maybe the Portkeys PT6 or similar and that Smallrig mount. I'm definitely getting to old for lying on the ground and straining my neck to look through a viewfinder! Really interesting to read other comments and see what equipment other members/subscribers are using. Thanks again. John
My pleasure John, yes, it is worth considering, I think some people also use their phones but takes some setting up to work properly. It is an option for when you are stationary that is for sure, just a bit difficult handheld etc. Cheers, Duade
I used to use a tablet tethered to my old DSLR. It worked a treat. It was touch screen when the DSLR wasn't. Luckily there was an app that provided the functionality. The tablet was great when shooting stills, not action shots. I did a lot of astro at the time and it was easier to manually focus with the larger screen. I thought the articulating screen on my R6 would make a monitor redundant but it is still too small. So I'm pleased to see there is an option. Too bad it loses the touchscreen ability.
Duade. I use a monitor with my R7. The camera LCD can be set to using your thumb on it to move the focal point around and it does appear moving on the monitor. I have the zone to be the right half of the LCD screen. Works slick. Check it out. You're so right on the advantages of a monitor. I love it for the low shots and it really helps with better composition.
Hello, Brothwer. I*m from Norway , I use the Panasonic G9 camea, I like your all video's
Great to hear, Cheers, Duade
I bought the Portkeys PT6 on Jan's advice in his video around 6 weeks ago but haven't used it yet. Won't get an opportunity for another 5 weeks as I've had abdominal surgery (hernia) and not allowed to lift (ruling out the R3 and 500f4 combination). Sucks to be me! It's already been 3 weeks without using the combination in anger, so 8 weeks...hell on Earth!!!
Sorry to hear that Dave, the only good thing is its winter at the moment which is often tough to shoot in. I wish you a speedy recovery. Cheers, Duade
Another great video. Very informative. Thanks Duade
Very useful that you take the time to talk through how the monitor works - thanks
Glad it was helpful!
You always make may day better and I'm a landscape photographer that still use DSLR
One question. Does it follow the orientation of the camera? If you do portrait shots(vertical orientation), will the liveview of the external monitor change to vertical also? And so with the picture taken in portrait(vertical) orientation)?
Thanks for sharing this Duade! Great video!
What's the advantage of the external monitor over the LCD on the back of the camera, apart from size of the screen?
My guess would be the ability to record the live view/EVF
It's really helping when you got situation in weird angle to shoot
@@amrizul You mean, angles that the LCD on the back can not easily be tilted to.
Or when it's perhaps inconvenient to flip out a fully articulating screen?
@@Mathieu_Matheow_Benoit But when you do not need recording, what advantages would it have over the LCD on the back of the camera besides size?
Brightness perhaps?
I don't know.
Hi Tim, the LCD works find the majority of the time, often its position can be a little arkward depending on brand. Canon is off to the side and tilted and I prefer the monitor on top looking at the subject, the size is also a bonus. But if the LCD works for you then no real need for a monitor. Cheers, Duade
Great video. Thanks. I got the PT6 last week after watching Jan’s video and so far it has worked OK. I’m still struggling with sun glare but it’s probably something I’m doing wrong. And like you, I suffer from the back, so it will be used on a tripod.
Any more Olympus vids coming up soon? That's next on my list of camera gear to buy. I'd really like to see a comparison to the Cannon's for bird AI and how well it tracks targets.
Hi Riley, yes, I plan on doing that video later in the month early next month as I have the Nikon Z8 coming soon which I need to focus on first. The OM-1 is a brilliant camera and I look forward to doing some comparisons. Cheers, Duade
Very interesting commentary! I never considered using one, but you made some great points!
Your videos are so easy to understand, thanks a bunch Duade 🙂 I use the Portkeys 6 and I have a harness on to carry the load on my shoulders via 2 straps either side of the camera and my lower back never has issues. I have never used the view finder to catch the birds in flight everything runs through the monitor.
Thanks for yet another excellent video. Brightness and angle of view are also important factors for outdoor use. Personally, I prefer brighter and larger monitors and I have a Desview R72 (7 inches, 2600 nits). My typical use case is when using a tripod with an inverted center column to have the camera at ground (or water) level, or any other situation where I can't use the viewfinder. In these situations, I usually attach the monitor to the tripod so that I can sit still behind the tripod while swinging the camera left and right.
The Bestview are quite good, considering it myself
Thank you very much for this video. I've considering getting a Ninja V for my OM-1 to show what's happening on my screen also, but the price kind of drives me away. The other uses you mention do add a fair amount to the balance though, and I might just pull the trigger on that purchase soon haha
Nice video. I shoot mostly birds but use my Feelworld Monitor to eliminate a lot of duplicates and out of focus shots before loading them to my computer. Much easier than using the evf.
You should get a cage like of SmallRig brand. Tilting it down might hurt the hotshoe if repeated many times. Plus you can mount a trigger(if ever you will need) while you have that external monitor as you will be able to attach more.
Thanks for that, I will look into it. Cheers, DUade
Take care of your back Duade! I have the same issue the right posture is everything these days. Look forward for more great content from you. Cheers.
Thanks mate, yes, I too have issues and try to avoid anything that may trigger it. Cheers, Duade
Having seen this video, I pulled the trigger for the Atomos Shinobi II and so far, I am quite happy with it. I would prefer to have the HDMI on the side of the monitor, but I‘ll get over it 🤓
Great information. I’m in the process of going to using a Monitor.
Thank you for a very informative video on monitors. I've learned a lot! Thank you
2:45 - you would think for the price you are paying for the unit they would include a mount for the hot shoe.
Not in my budget but may look at one of these in the near future for my photo work.
I use a monitor because I do astrophotography and I need a larger image than what the lcd can provide. Mine is a 7" Raspberry Pi monitor, USB powered. I plug it into a power bank. For mounting it, I have it mounted to the tripod - I have a bicycle mount magnet for tablets and smartphones clamped onto the tripod, and I placed a neodymium plate on the back of the monitor. Holds it very snugly.
I also have an 11" Raspberry Pi monitor for using when I'm tracking. Same mounting method, but I have to use a portable power station with standard electrical outlets to power it.
I don't remember the brands of either monitor, but I spent well under $200 for both of them together.
Great video! Thanks for the in-the-field insight.
Are you able to do a tutorial on how you were able to get your Sony camera to push video to the external monitor in the camera settings?
Im only able to get the external push while in video mode, but definitely want to experiment with recording video while shooting.
Not gonna get this particular extra thing, but I found this video both interesting and informative none the less.
Now to the essentials: I got a name for the Cockatiel softie (that I need to work on, since I've already forgotten it... not a name person, me) AND another new softie family member: a bin chicken! Got a name? It seems quite on top of the world, swinging its legs and waving its wings😄
About positions that'll wreak havoc on the old body: filming with the 7D & 7DII! Since the viewfinder turns black and they lack moveable lcd screen, one had to lift the camera so the screen is on eye level AND thrust the arms outwards until your eyesight is able to focus... No wonder my videos with those bodies were few and far between and also extremely shaky. Made my videos from Alaska to mainly slideshows, and the footage from St Paul island painful to watch. I SHOULD'VE bought another cheap videocam for that trip (that was back in June 2017)!
(Or lugged a tripod around on the trip... which I didn't)
Thanks, yes, the bin chicken is a great name and you will see why when you visit. Yes, the old LCD were hard to use, Cheers, Duade
I have been dabbling with an app called Monitor+ that converts my cellphone into a monitor. It works with both an HDMI cable (needs a converter) and a USB cable (also needs a cheap USB-A to USB-C adapter because the camera takes USB-micro). It's quirky and holding the phone in the correct position with the cheap accessories I use is a task but it gives me a larger screen than the rear LCD and a lot of monitor-like functionality. Plus it's cheaper!
Also there are OEM apps like Imaging Edge that are free.
Hi Duade. Thanks for the useful information. Recording the EVF is obviously essential for you. Other than that, I think it’s worth considering simply using the articulated screen, which is smaller but keeps the touch-screen and other functionality.
Can you explain what you mean please?
@@wellsyboy He meant it's worth using the built-in screen on the camera rather than the viewfinder. However, I've found taking photos in sunlight very difficult, even while using the screen on the A7iii that I use (I don't use the viewfinder at all). So that's why I want an external display and how I ended up on this video 😅
Hi..I love the small Tripod on the table..can you tell me the name of it please? Also I am so bummed that you cant use the back of the monitor when plugged into a external monitor. I have a new canon R8 and it does not have the toggle to move the autofocus points. I now have to use the focus button, hold it and move the camera to track the subject. Not so great on a tripod. Can't believe Canon would leave out this feature. Great video. thanks
FYI, the NR in the new DxO PhotoLab 8 is *fantastic* for astro. Stunning. (For reference, in PL7 it sucked, in comparison to PL8.)
Very cool video, I learned something again, thanks for working with and behind the video and best regards from Münsterland / Germany Markus
Hi Duade, thanks again for a great video & info on the monitors.
I've mentioned to you earlier of my back issues & extensive surgery so your mentioning of your back issues helps me no end in this matter.
I don't recall you mentioning the visibility aspects of the monitor, I guess I'm not alone in having problems seeing the screens on my cameras in bright sunlight, I see some monitors come with a velcro shade which could be helpful.
I'm now about to see if a monitor is available to use on my 90D, although after watching your clips I think an R6 mkii is getting closer.
Thanks again mate, if you have any knowledge of the 90D + monitor it would be appreciated.
G'day George, I have not had any major issues in the sun but I rarely shoot after 9am and before 3pm so I have not fully tested it in full sunlight but as you say you can get a hood for it. 90D should work but I think the FPS will be restricted. I hope someone with a 90D can comment. Cheers, Duade
Interesting! When I have setup at water I naturally just want to use the back screen of my camera but I end up getting worried i'll miss the shot and end up looking down the viewfinder when the birds arrive. This video proves to me you don't have to be glued to the EVF, especially with the help of eye tracking makes it really easy to focus on framing the photo. P.S. those are my favourite scarlet robin photos that you have ever taken!
Thanks Kurtis, I must admit I do like looking down the EVF but the monitor does work well on a tripod at setups. Yes, very lucky to have the Scarlet visit. Cheers, Duade
thx Duade - how is the visibility in bright light - sunshine?
Thanks for sharing another wonderful video like always, I have a very nice monitor by Godox, it does not record but its very useful for those bright days 👍🐦🤗
Thanks for sharing Miguel, great to hear it is working well, Cheers, Duade
Another very well explained vid keep up the good work
Thanks Harry, I appreciate the feedback, Cheers, Duade
Very useful video Duade, thanks a lot!
Thanks for a wonderfully informative video! I'm exploring getting a monitor-only (like the Shinobi 7) for my Nikon Z9 for still photography. My immediate need is for the upcoming eclipse: I need to zoom in during Live View to get the most accurate manual focus on sunspots. In your experience with the Canon and Sony cameras, can you still hit the "+" button on the camera to zoom in during Live View? Or perhaps you can do that on the Ninja? Nikon SnapBridge on the iPad disables all camera controls (while providing precious few of its own in exchange). Thanks, Steve
Thanks Duade. I had never considered these before and now I know how they can be used. With a bad back and being used to my own routine I don't think it would work for me. Thanks very much for a well presented video.
My pleasure Geoff, good to know the options, Cheers, Duade
excellent video. as always, BTW. thank you sir! Happy birding to you!
Thank you kindly!
Super! Beautifully presented. Thanks!
great video! ...and as far as I know, the Godox Monitor supports touch screen abilities!
Great show, Duade. Thank you.
I was hoping that these would work on my Canon 7d.
But you mentioned that it would lower the fps. I'm not sure where to check that info, but I will try to find it.
Thank you again. Your explanations, demonstrations, and information are great.
Outstanding and informative video. Thanks
After having done a couple of hide shootings, combining my R5 with the Ninja V (had one laying around for videography anyways) and a solid cable shutter release helped a lot.
Great video mate 👍
Thanks mate, I hope you are well, Cheers, Duade
I have cateracts in both eyes and would love to have a monitor. However my camera (a lumix fz300) has the hdmi port in the main handle. this means that it would be impossible to hold and operate the controls with the cable sticking out into my palm. Just a point to be aware of where is the hdmi port located.
helo sir can I ask the circular stand you use in your photography while your crouching at 8:36min
G'day they are called Skimmer Ground POds, they are very expensive for what they are and many people make their own from frying pans and other items. Good luck, Cheers, Duade
Thank you Duade. Very informative video. I can see that a monitor will not work well for birds in flight. What I use for birds in flight is a dot sight, which is, like the monitor, placed on the hot shoe of the camera. Advantage is you can easily use two eyes when using it. My hit rate improved substantially with It. I use the Olympus EE-1 dot sight on my OM-1 camera. Very easy to align with the camera without any tools. It uses a very small button cell battery and weights almost nothing.
Jan.
Thanks for this video. Just wondering how the monitor works in bright daylight. I cannot see much on my OM-1 EVF in bright daylight.
What could be your suggested lens on a budget for shooting birds and or wild life on the song E-MOUNT?
Speaking of monitors. I’m thinking of getting a larger monitor to use when editing. My eyes aren’t getting any younger. I was thinking about a curved monitor but have no idea if that would be good for editing. I also am not sure about resolution. Any opinion on that?
G'day. great question and a tough one to answer. I use a 4k 27"monitor but find the text a bit small, I think you really need a 30"+ monitor for 4k. If you have a 1440p monitor 27"is fine. I have not used a curved monitor so unsure about those. I have always used Dell and waited for their sales. Cheers, Duade
@@Duade thank you for the input. My son worked for Dell for years so that’s what I have now. I’ll probably stick with that. I am thinking 32” after your comment about 27” text. Might as well Spring for the best resolution possible too. I appreciate you taking the time to respond.
I’m wondering if I’ll be able to balance my gimbal with a field monitor. I really hope so. I learned a lot from the video, but there’s so much to learn. Anyway, thanks.
Thanks for the great video. I just bought a Feelworld T7 to use on my Olympus OM-1. I see you shoot with Olympus also. I was wondering if you have the same issue I have with this combination. With the monitor connected, when I select the playback button on the camera, the monitor and the touch screen go blank. I can toggle the screens back on by pushing the playback button a second time.
I always wanted to try VR glasses with a HDMI input connected to my camera
Hi nice post. I’m a wildflower photographer mostly shooting low to ground orchids, etc. I don’t have flippy screen so though monitor might be useful for me BUT I mostly shoot vertical portrait mode so not sure if I can. Tilt monitor 90 degrees rather than having to tilt my head to see monitor…not sure if I’ve explained clearly…thx Isaac
I often mount a directional microphone on the hot shoe. Do you know if there's a way to mount both a monitor and a microphone on the camera?
Great video. subbed. I do have a Ninja without the hard drive. Had it for a few months....need to set it up. That's garbage that you can't use touch screen. Looks like I'll be using it on my GH5 only. Your photos are BEAUTIFUL.
Funny enough I have a friend who is an ex-videographer and he was getting rid of gear and he gave me a monitor ... I have no idea what brand it is or what it can do but I need to play around with it. I thought they were only useful for shooting videos and I know some RUclipsrs such as yourself who use them to record the settings from the evf on their cameras. Now I've got a project for the weekend! 😁
Great to hear Joe, let me know how you go. Cheers, DUade
Great video and great photography! Thank you 🙏🏼
Thanks Duade, this might indeed also be an interesting use case for the many of us who just shoot stills and don't have our own youtube. Especially for shooting waterbirds as low as possible, and when using a tripod or sitting in a hide.
Just wondering how easy it is to attach and detach several times while hiking a full day and only taking out the tripod or getting low say 5 times during that day. Would it be worth the overhead ? and how's the risk of breaking the tiny micro-hdmi connection ?
I use the Lumix DMC GX85. How can I fix that the camera switched to video preview when connecting an hdmi monitor? It changes the aspect ratio to 16:9 and additionally crops in a bit. I what the preview to remain in photography mode.ä aka uncropped 4:3.
Raw files are technically uneffected but Lightroom will still apply the crop from the camera when importing them.
IfI choose a touchscreen monitor like the Atomos Ninja 5.2 $K HDMI Recording Monitor, will I be able to control the settings of my camera using the touchscreen? Or the same situation remains? The settings can only be changed using the camera dials and bottons? Thank you for your excellent review.
Thanks for video!:) I wonder if i can use my galaxy s22 ultra as a external monitor ?
Yes, I believe you can with apps and the right cords, good luck, Cheers, Duade
Thanks mate..with the touch screen being disabled..does that mean in video mode you cannot select focus?
Great tutorial for people who'd like to follow your footsteps in sharing their viewfinder content, which I always appreciate so much in your gear reviews! For Canon users there is a dirt cheap alternative though. An Android app CCC Pro (and a free version to try) connected via wifi or even a cable (USB-B to USB-C in my case) to a phone put on a cold shoe mount will cost less than A$15 and gives you a touchscreen with touch to focus even on old cameras like 7D2 and instant transfer of each photo taken to the phone. It was a game changer for me when I switched from M50 with touchscreen and WiFi to the 7D2...
Thanks for that, I should have tried that option out, sounds like a much cheaper alternative. Cheers, Duade
@Duade Paton well you still can try with the free version of the app and just cable. I'm pretty sure it would even work on your 40D and if you had an app recording your screen (like for app tutrials), you could do that onto your phone storage. It would be limited to your phone screen resolution though.
For Sony I use the Monitor+ app
A couple of questions: How clear is the image in the monitor in bright daylight? Regarding the tripod and ball head that is shown here: Who makes it? Would be interested in looking into it. Thanks.
HI Duade,
can external monitor for burst mode shot?
thanks
great video ..... one question no one seems to explain how to save phtos to ninja harddrive .... also getting a plain screen on ninja without serrings on screen being saved ...hope you time to advise me for my ninja to work well with my canon r6 thanks alot ...regards david
What is the tripod you have on the video?
Really interesting and informative Duade, thanks. Re handling the setup and back issues, have you tried using a monopod to support the rig rather than hand holding? It might reduce the tension in your arms and body and give some stability.
Very useful information. thanks