I really just want a sin removal for Blanc's frustrated rant towards Bron's stupid plan and further frustration to Birdie's "So dumb, it's brilliant" comment.
Hey, I always see this and I want to ask why? What happens for you when he removes a sin? Not trying to be an ass. Don't you still personally enjoy that part?
Can’t believe y’all failed to point out the real Mona Lisa was painted on wood, not canvas like it’s shown to be in the film. Which means that the Louvre did, indeed, give Miles a cheap copy to make some extra cash during the pandemic.
Thank you for pointing this out. When I learned it before, it made me appreciate the ending a lot more (at first i was frustrated bc while the Mona Lisa was important to Miles, it was important to so many other ppl and destroying the real couldn’t be justified)
This is a classic riddle. You’ve done a bunch of detective, short stories, and others about people claiming to have the real Mona. Lisa rolled up and that is always the ruse. It would have been fun is belong had noticed and that way it was immediately seen as a fake, but he didn’t realize that and that would’ve been a good glass onion metaphor
In both Knives Out and Glass Onion, the movies use different shots/recordings to show what the CHARACTERS heard in the moment. When Marta is driving down the road and hears Harlem say both before and after the carved elephant. It happens a few other times in the film too. That’s what’s happening with Duke saying “andi”, Blanc only hears “and” at that moment and later thinks it through for the reveal because he’s brilliant
I'm guessing that in the 3rd movie, the villain is the pretty obvious suspect, and that at the end, they bring up the lack of evidence, only for something unexpected to happen that gets them to jail.
The absolute biggest contrivance of this movie was Duke learning Andi was dead moments after speaking with her and having no reaction other than, "how can I blackmail Miles with this"?
Especially since the evidence of his own experience indicates that Andi is alive, so the more natural assumption is that there's been some kind of mistake in the reporting. And of all the characters in the movie, Duke as an alt-right internet personality, would be the most primed to disbelieve a mainstream news report that contradicts the evidence of his own eyes.
Nah he was desperate to claw out of the influencer grift game, Miles admitted that wouldn’t happen so suddenly he had leverage. Duke like the rest was a shit-head and only cared about himself
@@RazeToTuff Wasn't it made very very clear earlier in the scene where she blows up, that he had absolutely no interest in her as a person and they were all just playing a game and she lost? Im pretty sure that scene was specifically setup to explain his lack of empathy towards her death.
I think the one thing that frustrated me about the movie is the Helen and Blanc didn’t think ahead to take a picture of the napkin before confronting Miles. If you know he’s willing to kill for it, surely he’s not just gonna let you walk out with it
Blanc didnt have time to plan anything with Helen as Helen just walked in at that moment with the napkin Helen was shown to very impulsive and not really smart. Her smashing the box, not knowing if whats inside will be destroyed, showed that she acts without thinking much
They truly enjoy what they do and the movies they watch, while providing both valid critique(s) as well providing well intentioned snarky humor. And it's a shame that their video will attract some really terrible who missed the point of what they sinned, why sinned, & what they meant from said sin.
I love that they are all breaking glass items with most of the cast wearing sandals and open toed shoes but no one mentions stepping on glass, getting cut, or even that the glass shards ripped a hole in the sandals. These are thin and flimsy shoes! Everyone should be limping out with glass stuck in their feet
I stepped on glass with bare feet, just runnin' around, only realised I was bleeding when I looked at my foot and found a scab. I can see them get caught up in the moment and not realize the glass
So here's a thing you missed, but I can't blame you for. They say the boat can't come because of the "tide", however the whole thing is set on the Mediterranean (Greece specifically) where the effect of tides is so minor as to be inconsequential. Certainly wouldn't have stopped a boat from travelling... (source: public knowledge)
I’ve seen this movie twice but it wasn’t until watching this video that I realized Helen said her life was taken away by “someone” before correcting herself and saying “everyone” in this room. Just another hint she wasn’t the real Andi..
I love the fact that Blanc correctly references 2010 regarding "my god, it's full of stars" and not 2001 (in terms of movie adaptations). But then Jeremy calls it a Kubrick reference, even tho Kubrick didn't direct 2010. It just feels like we saw Blanc outsmart Jeremy on screen!
What I absolutely loved about this movie is the continuous use of the Fuge as a musical undertone to reinforce the idea of the glass onion; extra layers but it's all in the core I also noticed Miles hand Duke his drink on the first watch and was still thoroughly confused until the end of the movie 😂
You rebel, you didn't listen to Bron. Both lines you hear before tell you to look at either the dress spinning (Miles) or the glass switch (Blanc says something along the lines of: "what did we really see".
I'm honestly surprised you didn't sin the fact that every time somebody smashed something on the floor, the security system for the Mona Lisa did not activate. I mean, the movie made huge deal of it during the scene where Duke's phone kept going off and the case kept slamming shut.
It had already went up from the flame. Every time a ding made it shut, someone would deactivate the system. In that scene of duke's phone blowing up, it would be a *ding!* then a noticeable *shhunk!* of it going up, and then a second *shhunk!* of it going down. When the flame of miles burning the napkin happened, there was a *shhunk!* , but nobody really cared about deactivating the system at that moment. Nobody cared, until helen did and let it burn.
I personally choose to believe that the French government gave Miles a fake Mona Lisa because they knew he's an idiot and wouldn't notice...and he didn't. So when the headline breaks that he destroyed it, he gets a double whammy of embarrassment when the French go 'no he didn't, it's a fake! Did he really believe we'd give him the real one?'
I don't know if this is true or not, but I do recall reading that they were considering a credits scene where it was revealed that he had indeed been given a fake, but that they chose not to do it because they felt it would undercut the impact of its destruction.
Except the liability of something like that is HUGE! Can you imagine someone paying many millions and getting a fake? Its clear fraud and breaking all international laws and will destroy the credibility of the French government They also would know Miles is inviting many big businessmen and smart people where Mona Lisa will be displayed in front of all and some of them can figure out the fake Did he really expect they would give him in the real one? yes, yes, if they are charging him many millions and signed an agreement, yes yes they need to In the words of this movie - this theory is plain dumb
My wife actually caught the glass handoff the first time we watched it on streaming and we had to rewind cause I wanted to double check too! I was incredibly impressed with her noticing that blink and you miss it detail
Love the episodes, as always, and just wanted to say thank you for always doing your own closed captions! Accessibility is awesome, and RUclips generated captions are (while nice to have) not as good as the intentional ones :)
I feel like Derol deserves another sin. Yeah, it's funny watching him strolling around in the background all through the chaos, but this is a fucking MURDER MYSTERY. The presence of another, random guy on the island should absolutely have been brought up by Benoit at some point.
21:17 i'm not going to pretend that i figured out everything in this movie, but yeah, i DID notice ed norton handing him the glass...i even made my family pause and rewind the movie later on when he lied about it, just to make sure i wasn't losing my mind. i admit, i probably wouldn't have noticed if i wasn't watching a murder mystery, but yeah, at least one person did notice it when it happened
I saw it in a theater so I didn't have the option to rewind. But upon the reveal I thought it was pretty dumb to make a huge plot point rely on people not rewinding to check if they saw something correctly in a movie MADE to be watched at home with rewinding features available.
@@captainmarvelous7678 iuno,i don't think most people would bother to rewind to check...i only did it because i was so certain i remembered what i saw. i think it works well for this movie, where a big part of the theme is how easily we accept things we are told without checking for ourselves
@Travis Dawson i can only speak for myself but I know when he said Duke picked up the glass I wanted to rewind to check. After all I'm trying to solve the mystery so I need to make sure I have all the clues right.
When they did the false flashback, I was legitimately wondering if it was a continuity error, because I definitely saw Ed hand Dave the glass. Even when I first saw it happen, I thought it must have been an error, because they were all supposed to have their own personalized glasses, and Dave's was still on the table. So, yeah, I'm sure several people noticed (probably did have to do with knowing it was a mystery movie).
I totally noticed it on the first watch, but I guess I wasnt exactly "looking for the killer", so I figured Miles handing him the glass was something like "here you go buddy have some of my drink"- as me and my friends do so very often.
Definitely thought it was pretty messed up that everyone there was going to apparently allow Miles to get away with 2 murders and changed their mind after nearly being killed themselves
The point with the puzzle box being so simple, such as the hidden button being in the middle was probably one of the first indications that they were all simpletons. The puzzle designer that the Musk stand in didn't want to make it to hard for them.
i do want to point out that occurring during COVID does contribute to the movie - seeing who's wearing a mask and how they're wearing it gives us clues to the personality of the characters. for example, claire is wearing a mask but it doesn't cover her nose, which mirrors her political career (pretending to care about something for appearances but not fully caring about or understanding it). likewise, duke isn't wearing a mask, which if we hadn't already understood his character from the video/podcast segment (its been a while since i watched sorry) impresses upon us even more that he's kind of an asshole.
So which one was the character that wears their mask alone in the car? Or the one that keeps their mask on while swimming? If we are going to have the "no mask means asshole" guy, we gotta have those two idiots too.
@D H it always surprises me that people lacked the critical thinking to realize the ppl they saw driving with masks alone in a car were just getting ready early to hop out there car and go right to their destination. Like despite how the babies acted, wearing a mask was barely noticeable. If I was going to the store or doctors or work I obvi would put the mask on while driving close to my destination so wouldn't have to waste time after parking. It's crazy how that's obviously the reason but ppl like u need to invent ppl just as crazy on the opposite side to justify being batshit lol
Or Birdie's "fashion" mesh mask made of gold mesh, and then when she takes it off and says how she can breathe now. Meaning she is being compliant in her mind but completely doesn't understand any of it at all.
i thought the glass sculptures that they were smashing in the end were really made from Klear and smashing them helped with the Hindenburg effect. Throughout that scene, when everything is on fire, you see those little bursts of fire randomly ignite, that made me think it were pieces of the Klear sculptures.
@Harsh Nair See, it's just dumb (No, really, it makes sense for narcissistic people and crazy tech "geniuses" like Miles Bron, to involve everything around them with one of "their" inventions)
9:30 No, pushing on the little statue is the security override function. The glass can still open on its own without it, it just won't do so if the system detects a present threat, which is what it's doing every time someone's phone dings. I don't know why that of all things is considered a threat, but there's internal consistency that you missed.
I thought Glass Onion was sortof Rian Johnson's way of poking fun at Mystery movies in similar way that The Big Lebowski was satirical of Film Noir. I even thought it was fun that there was a character who was basically "The Dude" wandering around to occasionally tell the audience to ignore him, and by extension the homage/inspiration taken from The Big Lebowski. Then I found out that the Director of Photography and Production Designer Rian hired to do Glass Onion both also did The Big Lebowski. Rian Johnson is a giant Troll.
I thought there would be a sin for the possibility Edward Norton's belongings were destroyed, but his fortune is still protected. He could easily spin the story about how his house was destroyed, ultimately negating Helen's supposed revenge.
That would be true if it weren’t for the fact that a room full of respected individuals (except for Birdie) agreed to corroborate Helen’s story which would make that a tough sell for Miles.
Did you walk out before seeing the end scene? All his friends turned against him and would give evidence against him, both about Klear and the murder of Andi
It's not about making him broke. It's about ruining his reputation, which is the only thing he's actually put any real effort into building and maintaining.
That's not a sin, that's just characterization. The dude literally carries a gun everywhere because he doesn't "know when shit might pop off" but not an EpiPen. That's intentional. "How was he carrying around a handgun in Greece" might be a sin.
Kind of sad you didn't include the scene in the Glass Onion bar, where Miles misses a relatively easy shot in pool. I suppose it doesn't have much significance, but I like it just as another way to 'lay on thick' how idiotic Miles is.
That's actually a scene proving one of the things Miles is good at: Endearing and selling himself to people. It's sales tactics 101 to lose at the game so your client/mark feels better about themselves.
I really enjoyed this movie. Part of ehy this movie speaks to me is due to personal experience but it is truly a deep film about greed, lust for power, and complacency. Like Nope, this isn't going to be a film solely for viewing pleasure. It required the audience to think deeply about references, characters, and character motivations. And Knives Out had as much social commentary.
Can't believe you didn't sin the fact that they let Miles anywhere *near* the real napkin when confronting him. It's a really stupid move that they put in the movie so that the conflict could continue.
I love you guys and your critiques. The thing I enjoyed most about his movie was Daniel Craig's yokel detective act. His segway from Bond was glorious.
Big fan of the way RUclips played a betterhelp ad immediately the in-video ad. Just really super love it. Love ads. Love double ads. Love double ads for the exact same thing.
I like to imagine that Benoit Blanc is the son of Judge Chamberlain Haller from _My Cousin Vinny_ . Both have intense blue eyes and molasses-speed Southern drawl, both in the legal field in some capacity. Haller doesn't mind that Benny is gay, he just minds that he's dating an Englishman.
No comment on Blanc and Helen’s use of an audio recorder earlier in the film which is conspicuously absent as Miles freely speaks about the crimes he’s committed? Blanc leaving Helen alone surrounded by people she cannot trust including one that only moments prior had tried to kill her was ridiculous. Totally out of character to leave her in such a dangerous situation.
How come no one pointed out: so if Andy has a journal with every day of her life why didn't she use that as evidence for police to show her role in the flundation of the company?
Jackie Hoffmann was the best thing about this movie. She was hilarious in Only Murders in the Building too Also to call a bath 'stewing in your own filth' is a clear Chandler reference
I was thinking the exact same thing about the clue 10. I studied that exact Little Fugue in G minor by Bach in a history of classical music class. We never had the exact wording "it's layered on top of each other." It's an apt description but it's a bit shady
I love this movie so very much, but one thing that's always bugged me about the end: without the napkin, no, there is no physical evidence, and Miles got everyone to lie for him in court before... but if Benoit freaking Blanc -- the world's greatest detective -- tells the authorities "Hey so Miles Braun killed Andi Brand and while there's no physical evidence right now, I witnessed him essentially admit to it, saw him burn the original napkin, yada yada yada"... would that not be enough to at least open a real investigation? Like, of all the potential witnesses in the world you should be willing to listen to, isn't the guy who is literally recognized as the best detective on the planet one of them?
Not to mention, he could have still easily gone down for murdering Duke and attempting to murder Helen if they hadn’t exploded all the evidence in the crime scene and Duke’s body. But I am glad they did because that was dam satisfying. (Although I need to remind myself that Mona Lisa is painted on wood and not canvas every time I watch it burn to comfort myself)
And Miles only burns the napkin because he was literally too stupid to burn the evidence and only burned after Lionel gave him the idea, because literally nothing in Miles life is his own work. 😂😂 I was expecting sins off or at least jokes about the made up words 😂
no it didn't. how did anyone survive the explosion at the end? what was the point of the stoner character? there were several red herrings that were left unfulfilled. there were plot points that could be entirely removed from the movie without changing a thing. characters had dialogue that set something up later that never happened. how can anyone watch this and think "ah yes, masterful" lmao it wasn't even half as good as the first one and even that was just mediocre
I have to disagree, all the actions are random, the motivations don't make any sense and that leaves your with a puzzle with a nonsense solution. Like when she was shoot, he was the only one with no motivation.
Someone said a good twist would have been if there had been a hint that the sister was the murderer and Blanc didn't catch on until it was too late and that an innocent man had been framed.
It will be better plot twist but not in this movie. You see, benoit blanc movie tone is a bit comedic. It already setted since the first movie. Giving a darker tone like that won't mesh well
@@seihanda8792 i mean the first film WAS a little darker than this one. But they definitely plan on more so maybe an actual framing could happen in the future.
20:51 That’s exactly the point, Miles is dumb he doesn’t get the idea to burn it until Lyonel says “and you just kept it? You didn’t burn it or anything?”
One thing that I did find cool about the finale is that they did the research to find out that the Mona Lisa was painted on a piece of Wood and burnt the painting the way it would if that was the case.
In defence of the film, I just hit "world's greatest detective" into Google and first link was a list of 10 real-world detectives. Granted, most of them were historical figures but one of them is a woman still active today (Mary Doyle) so someone with the notoriety of Benoit Blanc would certainly be included on searches like that.
I find it incredibly fascinating how some are torn on this film between getting behind it's own sense of self-awareness and snark or finding it to be smug and thinking it's smarter than it actually is. It's been a really interesting battlefield and for better or for worse, never say Rian does make films these days that don't engender some kind of strong feeling.
I think part of it is that despite being very similar to Knives Out in smart, wit, and funny dialouge, Knives Out was a first and had the advantage of being something fresh. With this being a sequel, it is inevitable that it will be compared to the original, and it is not as good as Knives Out, in my opinion. Glass Onion would be just as good as the original, had Knives Out not been such a breath of fresh air for the mystery genre, and had Knives Out not existed. It already broke the status quo when it first came out, so what can Glass Onion do to compete? It is still an incredibly good movie, though!
I was behind the movie fully (and I loved the original) until they pulled out the twin twist. Seriously, you're telling me that NONE of these people who knew Andi (and even dated her at one point) would recall that she had an identical twin sister? It broke my suspension of disbelief even with how entertaining pretty much everything else was. Also, Ransom was a much better antagonist than Miles. A murder mystery just isn't compelling when the primary antagonist is simply...stupid. We know for a fact that Miles would've ended up ruining himself because of his usage of the hydrogen alternative fuel, but Ransom could've easily gotten away with the murder of his grandfather and the inheritance were it not for Marta.
@@giovannifitzpatrick1987 Rian Johnson doesn't care about suspension of disbelief. As long as you are "subverting the audience's expectations" stuff like logic or previously shown scenes can be ignored or altered.
Here are all the audio outtake clips at the end: 1 (25:05): Star Trek Into Darkness (Paramount Pictures, 2013) 2 (25:08): Airplane! (Paramount Pictures, 1980) 3 (25:25): The Fast and the Furious (Universal Pictures, 2001) 4 (25:31): Saturday Night Live, "Edward Norton" (season 39, episode 4; NBC, 26th October 2013) 5 (25:36): Bob's Burgers, "Now We're Not Cooking with Gas" (season 10, episode 8; Fox, 24th November 2019) 6 (25:46): A Few Good Men (Columbia Pictures, 1992) 7 (25:54): Batman: The Brave and the Bold, "Deep Cover for Batman!" (season 1, episode 12; Cartoon Network, 27th February 2009) 8 (25:59): The Breakfast Club (Universal Pictures, 1985) 9 (26:03): Pulp Fiction (Miramax, 1994) 10 (26:18): The Sopranos, "Army of One" (season 3, episode 13; HBO, 20th May 2001)
Well, it's not like he can tell anyone at the party, especially with the world's greatest detective there! "Oh my gosh guys! That lady i killed is here somehow?!?" That's why he tried to kill her again, because he wanted to finish the job.
Edward Norton's character was like his other character Steve from the Italian job .. Unimaginative and only bought/did what others wanted to have/dreamt of doing .. In Glass Onion, Miles was stealing Andi's ideas and even Blanc's idea
I would add a sin for when Miles and Blanc entered his office, and Miles said something along the lines of his car being a one-off. That car was a Porsche 918, which was mass-produced in the early 2010s.
@@yudhabagaskara98 straight from wikipedia: Production vehicles or production cars are mass-produced identical models, offered for sale to the public, and able to be legally driven on public roads (street legal).
It could be a special edition 918 made just for Miles, and worded it as such. Wasn't the paint referenced to be special? Pagani has like 12 one-off Zondas and 5 or so one-off Huayras, some with special paint/exposed carbon, some with manual transmissions, some with other distinct features.
17:23 additional sin for Blanc not being able to clearly hear this conversation over a fairly still pool, which is fantastic at preserving sound across still water.
The Knives Out movies are not connected. They share the character of Benoit Blanc, but other than that, they are standalone and each story exists apart from each other.
I watched this for the first time last night, and this isn’t the first time cinemasins has uploaded a video the day after I’ve watched a movie. I’m scared
I love how many sins in this can be shrugged off as, "Mike is dumb whaddya expect." 14:44 Also Blanc quite literally says "I'm not Batman" here. 17:06 She could've done it before covid man.
Nothing about what she said points to her actually playing Clue with the kids, teachers witness or hear about their students doing things outside of school all of the time 🤦♀ If you think about it, it makes more sense BECAUSE it's during lockdown; lots of parents trapped at home with their kids, playing every board game they own to keep them entertained, and a bunch of the kids like the same game because that's just what kids do.
This movie was great glad I was able to watch it in theaters during its limited release. Netflix really should of let it had a longer stay in theaters.
All I want to say is I saw a twin of that trippy ass sculpture in his office at the Palm Springs Museum of Art, and it's even crazier in person. Its by Artist Anthony James.
it's hard for me to watch movies like this where Kathryn Hahn is a potential suspect in whatever is going on because I can't help but think that it was Agatha, I mean Kathryn, all along.
I really just want a sin removal for Blanc's frustrated rant towards Bron's stupid plan and further frustration to Birdie's "So dumb, it's brilliant" comment.
Yea I didn’t like that part
Yeah
Agree
Hey, I always see this and I want to ask why? What happens for you when he removes a sin? Not trying to be an ass. Don't you still personally enjoy that part?
@@darkstar4450 do you know the song Fly Like An Eagle
Can’t believe y’all failed to point out the real Mona Lisa was painted on wood, not canvas like it’s shown to be in the film. Which means that the Louvre did, indeed, give Miles a cheap copy to make some extra cash during the pandemic.
A little piece of art history. I appreciate it.
Thank you for pointing this out. When I learned it before, it made me appreciate the ending a lot more (at first i was frustrated bc while the Mona Lisa was important to Miles, it was important to so many other ppl and destroying the real couldn’t be justified)
This is a classic riddle. You’ve done a bunch of detective, short stories, and others about people claiming to have the real Mona. Lisa rolled up and that is always the ruse.
It would have been fun is belong had noticed and that way it was immediately seen as a fake, but he didn’t realize that and that would’ve been a good glass onion metaphor
And it shows how Miles is only superficial in his wealth. He has no regard for art or he would know that it was fake.
no you can see that the paint is burnt with the wooden canvas behind it, rewatch the scene
In both Knives Out and Glass Onion, the movies use different shots/recordings to show what the CHARACTERS heard in the moment. When Marta is driving down the road and hears Harlem say both before and after the carved elephant. It happens a few other times in the film too. That’s what’s happening with Duke saying “andi”, Blanc only hears “and” at that moment and later thinks it through for the reveal because he’s brilliant
I'm guessing that in the 3rd movie, the villain is the pretty obvious suspect, and that at the end, they bring up the lack of evidence, only for something unexpected to happen that gets them to jail.
The absolute biggest contrivance of this movie was Duke learning Andi was dead moments after speaking with her and having no reaction other than, "how can I blackmail Miles with this"?
Especially since the evidence of his own experience indicates that Andi is alive, so the more natural assumption is that there's been some kind of mistake in the reporting. And of all the characters in the movie, Duke as an alt-right internet personality, would be the most primed to disbelieve a mainstream news report that contradicts the evidence of his own eyes.
Nah he was desperate to claw out of the influencer grift game, Miles admitted that wouldn’t happen so suddenly he had leverage. Duke like the rest was a shit-head and only cared about himself
Exaclty it was so stupid how he didn’t even think about he just saw her😊
@@RazeToTuff Wasn't it made very very clear earlier in the scene where she blows up, that he had absolutely no interest in her as a person and they were all just playing a game and she lost? Im pretty sure that scene was specifically setup to explain his lack of empathy towards her death.
@@theangler1922 how would he not be suprised she had died and the cops found out when they stayed in the same place?
I think the one thing that frustrated me about the movie is the Helen and Blanc didn’t think ahead to take a picture of the napkin before confronting Miles. If you know he’s willing to kill for it, surely he’s not just gonna let you walk out with it
Blanc didnt have time to plan anything with Helen as Helen just walked in at that moment with the napkin Helen was shown to very impulsive and not really smart. Her smashing the box, not knowing if whats inside will be destroyed, showed that she acts without thinking much
Helen had literally just found the Napkin 5 minutes before she entered the room, and i ont think she had her phone on her in that moment either.
@@darryljack6612She had it with her before this whole movie, before she wrote him saying she could expose him. She could’ve made copies then
@@slytherindork8459 No that’s Andi the sister who’s dead
For me, why didn’t andi have a picture of it in her email?!
I love when you can tell when these guys actually do like the movie they're sinning. It's satisfying
@@TippyHippy i microwaved mine
@@TippyHippy Did you wurl it in the air first like a helicopter blade?
They truly enjoy what they do and the movies they watch, while providing both valid critique(s) as well providing well intentioned snarky humor. And it's a shame that their video will attract some really terrible who missed the point of what they sinned, why sinned, & what they meant from said sin.
@@TippyHippy Ah, I see you are a practicer of Filthy Frank's life hacks. Truly cultured, based and sock-pilled
And liking this total shit bag of a film is enough to lose my subscription.
I love that they are all breaking glass items with most of the cast wearing sandals and open toed shoes but no one mentions stepping on glass, getting cut, or even that the glass shards ripped a hole in the sandals. These are thin and flimsy shoes! Everyone should be limping out with glass stuck in their feet
Is this a quote from something? It feels like I've heard this somewhere
I stepped on glass with bare feet, just runnin' around, only realised I was bleeding when I looked at my foot and found a scab. I can see them get caught up in the moment and not realize the glass
Exactly what i was thinking
🎵Walking on, walking on, brokeeenn glaaaasss🎵
Someone needs to watch "Die Hard"!
I laughed so hard when Benoit corrected Birdie "No! It's just dumb." 😂
Can't believe he sinned it instead of removing a sin 😂 I mean c'mon everyone laughed at that one
So here's a thing you missed, but I can't blame you for. They say the boat can't come because of the "tide", however the whole thing is set on the Mediterranean (Greece specifically) where the effect of tides is so minor as to be inconsequential. Certainly wouldn't have stopped a boat from travelling... (source: public knowledge)
And the hugely rich man with 50 servant can't convince anyone to find a way out to him for hours??????
tbf the characters in this movie all seem to have one collective brain cell (except Blanc and Helen probably) so it uh. checks out
@@wmeuse2375 he doesn’t have any servants on the island though he’s on the island alone with the exception of the stoner guy
@@mrcritical6751 and the radio he is using to communicate with the main land can't be used to buy the time of someone with a helicopter?
@@wmeuse2375 knowing Miles he probably made every part of the island inaccessible to helicopters by complete fucking accident
Blanc figuring the whole mystery Miles had set up before they even started the game was the best part of an already great movie.
I’ve seen this movie twice but it wasn’t until watching this video that I realized Helen said her life was taken away by “someone” before correcting herself and saying “everyone” in this room. Just another hint she wasn’t the real Andi..
I love the fact that Blanc correctly references 2010 regarding "my god, it's full of stars" and not 2001 (in terms of movie adaptations). But then Jeremy calls it a Kubrick reference, even tho Kubrick didn't direct 2010. It just feels like we saw Blanc outsmart Jeremy on screen!
I have no memory of this, please elaborate
@@JakeGottfriedStudios 5:46
@kan I was coming to make the same comment, great minds
No one is safe from Blanc, not even Cinemasins's less-than-thorough team.
🎶 _dun dun dun_ 🎵
Well caught, my dude! I missed that! I couldn’t figure out what the significance of 2010 was! It was another Bron flub up!
What I absolutely loved about this movie is the continuous use of the Fuge as a musical undertone to reinforce the idea of the glass onion; extra layers but it's all in the core
I also noticed Miles hand Duke his drink on the first watch and was still thoroughly confused until the end of the movie 😂
You rebel, you didn't listen to Bron. Both lines you hear before tell you to look at either the dress spinning (Miles) or the glass switch (Blanc says something along the lines of: "what did we really see".
I'm honestly surprised you didn't sin the fact that every time somebody smashed something on the floor, the security system for the Mona Lisa did not activate. I mean, the movie made huge deal of it during the scene where Duke's phone kept going off and the case kept slamming shut.
It had already went up from the flame. Every time a ding made it shut, someone would deactivate the system. In that scene of duke's phone blowing up, it would be a *ding!* then a noticeable *shhunk!* of it going up, and then a second *shhunk!* of it going down. When the flame of miles burning the napkin happened, there was a *shhunk!* , but nobody really cared about deactivating the system at that moment. Nobody cared, until helen did and let it burn.
I personally choose to believe that the French government gave Miles a fake Mona Lisa because they knew he's an idiot and wouldn't notice...and he didn't. So when the headline breaks that he destroyed it, he gets a double whammy of embarrassment when the French go 'no he didn't, it's a fake! Did he really believe we'd give him the real one?'
Agree. The real Mona Lisa is painted on wood, and this one is clearly on canvas.
a beautiful theory
I don't know if this is true or not, but I do recall reading that they were considering a credits scene where it was revealed that he had indeed been given a fake, but that they chose not to do it because they felt it would undercut the impact of its destruction.
@@GuyYouMetOnline i definitely understand that…it’s still funny to think it’s a fake but the impact on HIM would have still been the same
Except the liability of something like that is HUGE! Can you imagine someone paying many millions and getting a fake? Its clear fraud and breaking all international laws and will destroy the credibility of the French government
They also would know Miles is inviting many big businessmen and smart people where Mona Lisa will be displayed in front of all and some of them can figure out the fake
Did he really expect they would give him in the real one? yes, yes, if they are charging him many millions and signed an agreement, yes yes they need to
In the words of this movie - this theory is plain dumb
My wife actually caught the glass handoff the first time we watched it on streaming and we had to rewind cause I wanted to double check too! I was incredibly impressed with her noticing that blink and you miss it detail
Love the episodes, as always, and just wanted to say thank you for always doing your own closed captions! Accessibility is awesome, and RUclips generated captions are (while nice to have) not as good as the intentional ones :)
I feel like Derol deserves another sin. Yeah, it's funny watching him strolling around in the background all through the chaos, but this is a fucking MURDER MYSTERY. The presence of another, random guy on the island should absolutely have been brought up by Benoit at some point.
What? You’ve never heard of misdirection?
21:17 i'm not going to pretend that i figured out everything in this movie, but yeah, i DID notice ed norton handing him the glass...i even made my family pause and rewind the movie later on when he lied about it, just to make sure i wasn't losing my mind. i admit, i probably wouldn't have noticed if i wasn't watching a murder mystery, but yeah, at least one person did notice it when it happened
I saw it in a theater so I didn't have the option to rewind. But upon the reveal I thought it was pretty dumb to make a huge plot point rely on people not rewinding to check if they saw something correctly in a movie MADE to be watched at home with rewinding features available.
@@captainmarvelous7678 iuno,i don't think most people would bother to rewind to check...i only did it because i was so certain i remembered what i saw. i think it works well for this movie, where a big part of the theme is how easily we accept things we are told without checking for ourselves
@Travis Dawson i can only speak for myself but I know when he said Duke picked up the glass I wanted to rewind to check. After all I'm trying to solve the mystery so I need to make sure I have all the clues right.
When they did the false flashback, I was legitimately wondering if it was a continuity error, because I definitely saw Ed hand Dave the glass. Even when I first saw it happen, I thought it must have been an error, because they were all supposed to have their own personalized glasses, and Dave's was still on the table. So, yeah, I'm sure several people noticed (probably did have to do with knowing it was a mystery movie).
I totally noticed it on the first watch, but I guess I wasnt exactly "looking for the killer", so I figured Miles handing him the glass was something like "here you go buddy have some of my drink"- as me and my friends do so very often.
Definitely thought it was pretty messed up that everyone there was going to apparently allow Miles to get away with 2 murders and changed their mind after nearly being killed themselves
Helen's faux cattiness and guilt when she was smashing stuff was so hilarious and endearing. It reminds me that I have a massive Janelle Monae crush
i love how among us of all things has genuine relevance to the plot of mfin benoit blanc's life
The point with the puzzle box being so simple, such as the hidden button being in the middle was probably one of the first indications that they were all simpletons. The puzzle designer that the Musk stand in didn't want to make it to hard for them.
Click-toris made me laugh way harder than it should’ve, thanks CinemaSins 😂
9:53 That was basically Peg’s situation this entire movie lol
she did not deserve the shit this movie put her through, justice for peg
0:01 DING~!. DING-DING-DING!! ALL OF THE DINGS!!!!!
i do want to point out that occurring during COVID does contribute to the movie - seeing who's wearing a mask and how they're wearing it gives us clues to the personality of the characters. for example, claire is wearing a mask but it doesn't cover her nose, which mirrors her political career (pretending to care about something for appearances but not fully caring about or understanding it). likewise, duke isn't wearing a mask, which if we hadn't already understood his character from the video/podcast segment (its been a while since i watched sorry) impresses upon us even more that he's kind of an asshole.
Agreed. While it may very much be a “period piece” in the future, right now it’s just incredibly relatable.
So which one was the character that wears their mask alone in the car?
Or the one that keeps their mask on while swimming?
If we are going to have the "no mask means asshole" guy, we gotta have those two idiots too.
@D H it always surprises me that people lacked the critical thinking to realize the ppl they saw driving with masks alone in a car were just getting ready early to hop out there car and go right to their destination. Like despite how the babies acted, wearing a mask was barely noticeable. If I was going to the store or doctors or work I obvi would put the mask on while driving close to my destination so wouldn't have to waste time after parking. It's crazy how that's obviously the reason but ppl like u need to invent ppl just as crazy on the opposite side to justify being batshit lol
the cloth on the face outside on a dock. LOL.
Or Birdie's "fashion" mesh mask made of gold mesh, and then when she takes it off and says how she can breathe now. Meaning she is being compliant in her mind but completely doesn't understand any of it at all.
i thought the glass sculptures that they were smashing in the end were really made from Klear and smashing them helped with the Hindenburg effect.
Throughout that scene, when everything is on fire, you see those little bursts of fire randomly ignite, that made me think it were pieces of the Klear sculptures.
Why would sculptures be made of fuel? That does not make any sense
@@harish123az It’s not made of exactly, it’s that the pieces would be incorporated into the piece (like in the case of the Mona Lisa)
@Harsh Nair See, it's just dumb
(No, really, it makes sense for narcissistic people and crazy tech "geniuses" like Miles Bron, to involve everything around them with one of "their" inventions)
The Lansbury/Sondheim cameo makes me smile and cry at the same time. It's very cute, but also... they are now gone.
Friendly reminder that Better Help got in trouble for selling patient information
Yes, to Facebook and others. Honestly they should have been shut down for so blatantly violating patient-doctor confidentiality like that
Having Angela Lansbury in the movie and not have her solve a crime deserves 100 extra sins
9:30 No, pushing on the little statue is the security override function. The glass can still open on its own without it, it just won't do so if the system detects a present threat, which is what it's doing every time someone's phone dings. I don't know why that of all things is considered a threat, but there's internal consistency that you missed.
Kathryn Hahn and Kate Hudson were also in "How to Lose a Guy in 10 Days" together, so this is a reunion, of sorts!
Don't forget Kate and Leslie too since they did Music
And Kate's characters name was Andi in How to Lose a Guy in 10 Days
I thought Glass Onion was sortof Rian Johnson's way of poking fun at Mystery movies in similar way that The Big Lebowski was satirical of Film Noir. I even thought it was fun that there was a character who was basically "The Dude" wandering around to occasionally tell the audience to ignore him, and by extension the homage/inspiration taken from The Big Lebowski.
Then I found out that the Director of Photography and Production Designer Rian hired to do Glass Onion both also did The Big Lebowski.
Rian Johnson is a giant Troll.
I thought there would be a sin for the possibility Edward Norton's belongings were destroyed, but his fortune is still protected. He could easily spin the story about how his house was destroyed, ultimately negating Helen's supposed revenge.
That would be true if it weren’t for the fact that a room full of respected individuals (except for Birdie) agreed to corroborate Helen’s story which would make that a tough sell for Miles.
Isn't it only too easy to prove the house was destroyed by Klear?
Did you walk out before seeing the end scene? All his friends turned against him and would give evidence against him, both about Klear and the murder of Andi
But there’s the fact he killed two people
It's not about making him broke. It's about ruining his reputation, which is the only thing he's actually put any real effort into building and maintaining.
This movie was fun to watch. The sins were even more fun 😂
If Duke was deathly allergic to pineapple why didn't he have an epi pen on him at all times?
And pineapple juice has a very distinctive smell, even with any alcohol added to it.
People say the excuse is he's a macho idiot who'd feel wimpy carrying it around.
Not everyone carries an epi pen around with them at all times. Sometimes, it's the cost, but some just don't do it.
I saw a comment about that. The dude carries a loaded gun everywhere for protection but not the thing that would actually save his life.
That's not a sin, that's just characterization. The dude literally carries a gun everywhere because he doesn't "know when shit might pop off" but not an EpiPen. That's intentional. "How was he carrying around a handgun in Greece" might be a sin.
My favorite detail from the whole movie is still the Rothko that Miles has hung upside down.
Sin! Keeping the Faith is a solid film. Also, I like the idea of him being upset that Gillian Flynn was expensive. It's character-establishing.
You ought to have removed a sin for Peg using a sharpie to write her own name on a Solo cup.
The fact that he took away so many sins shows how great this movie is
Kind of sad you didn't include the scene in the Glass Onion bar, where Miles misses a relatively easy shot in pool. I suppose it doesn't have much significance, but I like it just as another way to 'lay on thick' how idiotic Miles is.
That's actually a scene proving one of the things Miles is good at: Endearing and selling himself to people.
It's sales tactics 101 to lose at the game so your client/mark feels better about themselves.
Love the way this movie deconstructs how people view society's mega-billionaires as superhuman geniuses
Flaws aside, god I love this film. Can't wait for the next one
2010: The Year We Made Contact isn't a Kubrick. It's based on the sequel to the book and is a very different movie. (For one thing, it makes sense.)
I really enjoyed this movie. Part of ehy this movie speaks to me is due to personal experience but it is truly a deep film about greed, lust for power, and complacency. Like Nope, this isn't going to be a film solely for viewing pleasure. It required the audience to think deeply about references, characters, and character motivations. And Knives Out had as much social commentary.
Can't believe you didn't sin the fact that they let Miles anywhere *near* the real napkin when confronting him. It's a really stupid move that they put in the movie so that the conflict could continue.
Well, they sort of got cocky. The same way andi got cocky moments before her death. It's a parallel
As a teacher, "You play Clue with 3rd graders over Zoom!?" may be the funniest sin I've ever heard.
I love you guys and your critiques. The thing I enjoyed most about his movie was Daniel Craig's yokel detective act. His segway from Bond was glorious.
Segue
"His segway"
There were no two-wheeled electric people movers in this movie!
Big fan of the way RUclips played a betterhelp ad immediately the in-video ad. Just really super love it. Love ads. Love double ads. Love double ads for the exact same thing.
I like to imagine that Benoit Blanc is the son of Judge Chamberlain Haller from _My Cousin Vinny_ . Both have intense blue eyes and molasses-speed Southern drawl, both in the legal field in some capacity. Haller doesn't mind that Benny is gay, he just minds that he's dating an Englishman.
No comment on Blanc and Helen’s use of an audio recorder earlier in the film which is conspicuously absent as Miles freely speaks about the crimes he’s committed?
Blanc leaving Helen alone surrounded by people she cannot trust including one that only moments prior had tried to kill her was ridiculous. Totally out of character to leave her in such a dangerous situation.
How come no one pointed out: so if Andy has a journal with every day of her life why didn't she use that as evidence for police to show her role in the flundation of the company?
It would be inadmissible due to hearsay.
Jackie Hoffmann was the best thing about this movie. She was hilarious in Only Murders in the Building too
Also to call a bath 'stewing in your own filth' is a clear Chandler reference
I was thinking the exact same thing about the clue 10. I studied that exact Little Fugue in G minor by Bach in a history of classical music class. We never had the exact wording "it's layered on top of each other." It's an apt description but it's a bit shady
I didn’t even notice the “Im not here” guy was the same actor who played one of the detectives from the first movie until you mentioned it, lol.
"Lionel here is willing to wait for it."😂Best reference in this video!
4:03 Lol Benoit..BALLS 🤣🤣 Archer would be proud
I love this movie so very much, but one thing that's always bugged me about the end: without the napkin, no, there is no physical evidence, and Miles got everyone to lie for him in court before... but if Benoit freaking Blanc -- the world's greatest detective -- tells the authorities "Hey so Miles Braun killed Andi Brand and while there's no physical evidence right now, I witnessed him essentially admit to it, saw him burn the original napkin, yada yada yada"... would that not be enough to at least open a real investigation? Like, of all the potential witnesses in the world you should be willing to listen to, isn't the guy who is literally recognized as the best detective on the planet one of them?
Not to mention, he could have still easily gone down for murdering Duke and attempting to murder Helen if they hadn’t exploded all the evidence in the crime scene and Duke’s body. But I am glad they did because that was dam satisfying. (Although I need to remind myself that Mona Lisa is painted on wood and not canvas every time I watch it burn to comfort myself)
And Miles only burns the napkin because he was literally too stupid to burn the evidence and only burned after Lionel gave him the idea, because literally nothing in Miles life is his own work. 😂😂
I was expecting sins off or at least jokes about the made up words 😂
This movie nailed so many aspects to create a masterful and riveting murder mystery with the exception of Helen leaving the hammer in the box.
no it didn't. how did anyone survive the explosion at the end? what was the point of the stoner character? there were several red herrings that were left unfulfilled. there were plot points that could be entirely removed from the movie without changing a thing. characters had dialogue that set something up later that never happened. how can anyone watch this and think "ah yes, masterful" lmao it wasn't even half as good as the first one and even that was just mediocre
I have to disagree, all the actions are random, the motivations don't make any sense and that leaves your with a puzzle with a nonsense solution. Like when she was shoot, he was the only one with no motivation.
@@WrangleMcDangle stoner character as the suspect was my only thought. For about a few minutes...😂
@@ohcrap2222 fully agree. good assessment.
@@MrVegasdeuce yeah i thought "no way theyd add this obvious red herring and have him only do comedic relief" but they literally did exactly that lol
James Bond on vacation 😜
🤣🤣🤣
😢Rip JB.
"Finding a box's clicktoris..."🤣🤣🤣
I’ve been waiting for this. This is perfect!!
The week after cinema wins video can't be a coincidence
I feel like sins kinda hates wins for not hating movies
I love how at 3:33 Rian included the lady from Poker Face into the zoom call of detective friends.
"I bet Lionel is willing to wait for it" made me scream
This is the anti-billionaire movie that Jurassic World Dominion thought it was achieving
@Xxaphius I think it was
Someone said a good twist would have been if there had been a hint that the sister was the murderer and Blanc didn't catch on until it was too late and that an innocent man had been framed.
It will be better plot twist but not in this movie.
You see, benoit blanc movie tone is a bit comedic.
It already setted since the first movie.
Giving a darker tone like that won't mesh well
@@seihanda8792 i mean the first film WAS a little darker than this one. But they definitely plan on more so maybe an actual framing could happen in the future.
@@Miyanoai14 already happened in the past
That's just knives out plot
20:51
That’s exactly the point, Miles is dumb he doesn’t get the idea to burn it until Lyonel says “and you just kept it? You didn’t burn it or anything?”
One thing that I did find cool about the finale is that they did the research to find out that the Mona Lisa was painted on a piece of Wood and burnt the painting the way it would if that was the case.
thats because its a fake, they even had a deleted scene where they revealed that but chose to cut it
10:59 That's one sin on you for not calling it the Pineapple Express
You talked about Miles having the Mona Lisa but you don't point out that he also has a painting of Tyler Durden on the wall. Ding!
I would love to see you guys cover Cocaine Bear
Finally! I’ve been waiting for this for *SO LONG!*
In defence of the film, I just hit "world's greatest detective" into Google and first link was a list of 10 real-world detectives. Granted, most of them were historical figures but one of them is a woman still active today (Mary Doyle) so someone with the notoriety of Benoit Blanc would certainly be included on searches like that.
2:23 "F*cking Jackie Hoffman is the best" ... uh ... phrasing ?!
Boom
I saw the glass switch, knew what it meant, and still very thoroughly enjoyed the rest of the movie.
I find it incredibly fascinating how some are torn on this film between getting behind it's own sense of self-awareness and snark or finding it to be smug and thinking it's smarter than it actually is. It's been a really interesting battlefield and for better or for worse, never say Rian does make films these days that don't engender some kind of strong feeling.
I think part of it is that despite being very similar to Knives Out in smart, wit, and funny dialouge, Knives Out was a first and had the advantage of being something fresh. With this being a sequel, it is inevitable that it will be compared to the original, and it is not as good as Knives Out, in my opinion. Glass Onion would be just as good as the original, had Knives Out not been such a breath of fresh air for the mystery genre, and had Knives Out not existed. It already broke the status quo when it first came out, so what can Glass Onion do to compete? It is still an incredibly good movie, though!
I was behind the movie fully (and I loved the original) until they pulled out the twin twist. Seriously, you're telling me that NONE of these people who knew Andi (and even dated her at one point) would recall that she had an identical twin sister? It broke my suspension of disbelief even with how entertaining pretty much everything else was.
Also, Ransom was a much better antagonist than Miles. A murder mystery just isn't compelling when the primary antagonist is simply...stupid. We know for a fact that Miles would've ended up ruining himself because of his usage of the hydrogen alternative fuel, but Ransom could've easily gotten away with the murder of his grandfather and the inheritance were it not for Marta.
@@giovannifitzpatrick1987 Rian Johnson doesn't care about suspension of disbelief. As long as you are "subverting the audience's expectations" stuff like logic or previously shown scenes can be ignored or altered.
Here are all the audio outtake clips at the end:
1 (25:05): Star Trek Into Darkness (Paramount Pictures, 2013)
2 (25:08): Airplane! (Paramount Pictures, 1980)
3 (25:25): The Fast and the Furious (Universal Pictures, 2001)
4 (25:31): Saturday Night Live, "Edward Norton" (season 39, episode 4; NBC, 26th October 2013)
5 (25:36): Bob's Burgers, "Now We're Not Cooking with Gas" (season 10, episode 8; Fox, 24th November 2019)
6 (25:46): A Few Good Men (Columbia Pictures, 1992)
7 (25:54): Batman: The Brave and the Bold, "Deep Cover for Batman!" (season 1, episode 12; Cartoon Network, 27th February 2009)
8 (25:59): The Breakfast Club (Universal Pictures, 1985)
9 (26:03): Pulp Fiction (Miramax, 1994)
10 (26:18): The Sopranos, "Army of One" (season 3, episode 13; HBO, 20th May 2001)
The fact that they use Bader for the Batman outtake is inspired
Above all, I'm surprised you didn't sin the fact that that puzzle box is COMPLETELY IMPOSSIBLE in the real world! Like, it is PHYSICALLY IMPOSSIBLE!
Rian Johnson went all out with the budget in this one
“Myles is Tyler Durden, and while there always was a Roy, there never was an Aaron, Counselor!” had me DYING 😂😂😂
So did Bron not know that Andi died? Wouldn't he know that the Andi who showed up isn't Andi?
Well, it's not like he can tell anyone at the party, especially with the world's greatest detective there! "Oh my gosh guys! That lady i killed is here somehow?!?" That's why he tried to kill her again, because he wanted to finish the job.
Edward Norton's character was like his other character Steve from the Italian job .. Unimaginative and only bought/did what others wanted to have/dreamt of doing .. In Glass Onion, Miles was stealing Andi's ideas and even Blanc's idea
I would add a sin for when Miles and Blanc entered his office, and Miles said something along the lines of his car being a one-off. That car was a Porsche 918, which was mass-produced in the early 2010s.
That's the beauty of making Miles an idiot. You could write that sin off as Miles being an ignorant idiot.
Mass produced even it's less than 1000 made
@@yudhabagaskara98 straight from wikipedia:
Production vehicles or production cars are mass-produced identical models, offered for sale to the public, and able to be legally driven on public roads (street legal).
It could be a special edition 918 made just for Miles, and worded it as such. Wasn't the paint referenced to be special? Pagani has like 12 one-off Zondas and 5 or so one-off Huayras, some with special paint/exposed carbon, some with manual transmissions, some with other distinct features.
17:23 additional sin for Blanc not being able to clearly hear this conversation over a fairly still pool, which is fantastic at preserving sound across still water.
Appreciate calling out how difficult that shot Miles makes at Helen was
Brick acknowledgment is always appreciated
The Knives Out movies are not connected. They share the character of Benoit Blanc, but other than that, they are standalone and each story exists apart from each other.
I watched this for the first time last night, and this isn’t the first time cinemasins has uploaded a video the day after I’ve watched a movie. I’m scared
"Skip!" OMG I busted out at that!! Be seriously, I LOVE the Knives Out movies - I can't hardly wait for the next one!
I love how many sins in this can be shrugged off as, "Mike is dumb whaddya expect."
14:44 Also Blanc quite literally says "I'm not Batman" here.
17:06 She could've done it before covid man.
Nothing about what she said points to her actually playing Clue with the kids, teachers witness or hear about their students doing things outside of school all of the time 🤦♀ If you think about it, it makes more sense BECAUSE it's during lockdown; lots of parents trapped at home with their kids, playing every board game they own to keep them entertained, and a bunch of the kids like the same game because that's just what kids do.
Or they could've just been like "Hey teacher lady! Me and my mom played clue last night! I love that game :]" because that's just how kids are
The thing about the extra bracelet just BREAKS EVERYTHING ELSE.
This movie was great glad I was able to watch it in theaters during its limited release. Netflix really should of let it had a longer stay in theaters.
Great messages the movies gives you.
Break stuff until good stuff happens.
Got it.
the Hamilton reference at 23:21 lmao
All I want to say is I saw a twin of that trippy ass sculpture in his office at the Palm Springs Museum of Art, and it's even crazier in person. Its by Artist Anthony James.
it's hard for me to watch movies like this where Kathryn Hahn is a potential suspect in whatever is going on because I can't help but think that it was Agatha, I mean Kathryn, all along.