A Terrifying Incident on our Homestead (Emotional)
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- Опубликовано: 10 дек 2022
- This turned out to be one of our scariest days of our lives. We are at a lost for words and are very confused.
A few months ago we bought our dream property in the foothills of the Italian Alps. We have been working hard to renovate this old stone house into our dream home. When we bought the property we inherited a donkey by the name of Stella. She has quickly become part of our family, but today something tragic happened.
Please be kind in the comments. I’m having to delete a higher than usual amount of hate on this video. Remember that on the other side of these videos are real people, not digital punching bags.
Addressing some top comments and concerns:
yes, we have talked to a vet and several people who raise donkeys. They are as confused as we are, but the most likely answers are that she is not happy about the amount of change happening on the property (donkeys hate change). As a result she is becoming territorial of her space, such as her shelters. Her outburst was likely exasperated by the fact that she’s likely in heat. She of course is also lonely, all the love and attention we give her isn’t enough and she needs an animal friend.
No, we are not abusing her.
No, it is not our fault what happened.
Again, please be kind.
Thank you for all of the supportive messages and helpful insights. We will update you in a future video.
Most likely it's because she's lonely and needs a male donkey to mate. Same happens with cows when they seek a partner for mating.
That's what I said in my comment. It looks like we are on the same page.
Firstly you have talked to a vet. That is a start But has a vet actually been out to examine Stella? If not, why not? You have animal with a sudden change in behavior, the responsible thing is to get her examined and rule out any physical reason.
Secondly, and people don't like to hear this bu t generally whenever an animal behaves badly it is indeed the human's fault either as a result of lack of training, expecting too much too fast, abuse, lack of kowledge, even inability 'think like the animal', eg.,donkey is herd animal yet kept alone. What impact might this have on her? What does it mean to be a herd animal? Well, first and foremost she is a prey animal and a herd gives protection. A herd gives her a place in a hierarchy which is important. Also donkeys are social animals. Depriving her of a herd whether donkeys or other animals leaves her feeling vulnerable and lonely. Also, Winter is here and a solitary donkey is more at risk of predators.
Lastly, there are so many kinds of abuse, keeping her solitary could be considered one form.
I venture to say no one here is a hater, just concerned with the well being of Stella and you'all.
So sorry that on top of your very challenging renovation of the house, hard physical work on the property, and everything else you have to deal with being in a foreign country , Stella is acting up 😔 You are kind, compassionate people, THANK YOU that you find time to care for her, consult the vet, take videos and share with us. This too shall pass, you will find the way in everything, it will all come together like pieces of a puzzle just give it time....and patience. God speed !🙌🙏
It’s hard to put your private lives in public. I’m thankful you take that risk and hope you continue posting videos of your journey on RUclips. I’m sorry you have to deal with negativity. I really hope this scary incident becomes an opportunity to grow. I wish I had some advice about Stella, but my knowledge of donkeys = I think they’re cute.
I was a kid that was raised with a Donkey (years ago). Donkeys are very smart. Smarter than horses. The smarter the animal, the more of an individual each one is. Stella did not go crazy. She did not seriously go after your family. If she had been serious she would not have been stopped. Stella was trying to tell you something. It could have been simply that she is the dominant head of the herd. From what I have glimpsed, you all allow Stella to crowd your personal space. That is a message to her that you are subservient to her. There may have been other factors at play. Stella is very fat. Are you certain she is not pregnant? Was there something in the pen that Stella perceived as a danger, and she wanted you out? Was she bored and unhappy that she was left alone, recently? Try to think from her point of view.
A vet check would be a good idea. Then get a trainer to give you pointers on dealing with her. This will help you decide if being an equine livestock keeper is for you, and will give your kids some knowledge on how to deal with donkeys and horses for the rest of their lives. If you do decide to keep Stella, she needs a purpose in life. That can be as simple as she needs to train your family on how to deal with donkeys, or it could be guarding a sheep or two. Perhaps you could find a neighbors sheep to host for a bit?
Listening to your description of Stella charging with her head down, sounds like it was a feint (to which your daughter responded perfectly). When donkeys really go after something with their front end, they almost always grip with their teeth and do front hoof strikes or, if what ever they are going after is light enough weight, they will jerk it into the air with a snap sharp enough to break a coyotes back. Butting something like a goat is not even close to normal behavior. Still...... do not allow the kids inside the fence without you or your trainer, until you trust Stella to behave. And you CAN trust her again. Trust her to be a donkey, that is.
I hope you are able to take the time and effort to retrain yourself on how to handle equines. I had the experience of growing up with a donkey in my family, and I would not trade that for anything! As long as everyone is safe, you have time to consider training vs. rehoming. Please, though, don't keep her, long term, as a pasture pet that you are hesitant to deal with (she will be aware of your hesitancy). That, in time, would sour her to the point of being a true danger and of needing to be put down. From the small amount of your videos I have seen, I can tell you will act in the best interest of all of your family (including the equine part).
Such a great, insightful comment / suggestions. I hope the family read this.
Wonderful explanation.
As a farmer livestock kid, I can really agree with everything that was said here. Even house pets acts like this. It is important to always attend to the characteristics and needs of any animal, and see how you as human need to behave and react and adjust around them. That girl showed she is the boss. Good. Often movies pictures of animal lovers only show the cudly bit,seldom the control and conflict side behind the scenes. Any animal lover, carer, must always establish who is the boss. The animal, even a dog, feels safe then. It can also be that Stella started to feel you are leaving, and donkeys is NOT good at being lonely. Trust me!! I think she behaved really well up till now for being alone. Because she established she is your boss, the message could also be "don't go, stay". She just does not want to be alone. You were leaving when she behaved like that. She is your boss, you must stay. I really think in solving the loneliness problem for her, she will be excellent and very trustworthy afterwards. For your own healing, then just get basic animal counseling for you as a family, in how to stay an animal's boss, no matter which breed. All the best!! Don't worry!! All animal carers lovers need to learn this small lesson at sometime. It's part of establishing a relationship with an animal. Don't read too much into it. Animals have basic needs. Nothing is wrong with her or you. Just little adjustments. Hope you can soon find her some accompaniment. As above, they are very smart!! They need a purpose. Another donkey or sheep or anything, but not alone. She really has a very very special character if I may judge from the videos. I think she is a perfect fit for you. She also adjusted well to your characters and behaviour. So don't worry!! See it as a stepping stone to a better relationship.
totally agree to this explanation.
Thanks for your comment! Hope they'll see it!
Hi both I am an experienced horseman. It looks like Stella has way too much energy from the food your giving her. Don’t give her any more grain foods just grass and hay and she will be ok again. Having another one would be good. Donkey’s like a companion. Hope this helps. Love your channel 🙏
Your advice does really make sense. You seem to know horses as well. The same applies...
Yes, my husband is a wonderful caretaker of horses. He constantly preaches against rich food. It’s like speed for horses.
Yep that's another thing. She got lots of treats and then treats went away
I was raised in the country. Donkeys are herd animals .. they do better with other animals, especially another donkey. They get frustrated when their alone... territorial and can be swift to get "hormonal"...as was told to me when I was younger. Always be cautious...but know that any field animal might do the same. Stella is mostly calm, but perhaps she's feeling the stress of solitude. Trust me, they do better when they aren't alone. Doesn't mean another donkey....but perhaps a couple sheep.
Another thing to consider is it is simply hormones and she's going in to season. Girls are weird. Lol
I totally agree they are better with company and can get lonely and frustrated 👍
"girls are weird" HEY! true, but HEY! 🤣😂
Be aware of the fact she maybe jealous,or sick and hurting.Trying to express her hurt by getting attention.Eitherway be careful.See a vet before you give up on her.
I have 5 donkeys and I'm sure that it's the solitude. It could be hormonal, but I'm sure that it's because she's too much alone . You need to get a companion for her (not a sheep or a goat) but another donkey or another horse. Donkeys are herd animals.
I know it seems scary, but don't give up on her. She'll get through this especially if you find her a companion.
I am in no way a professional in any way on donkeys but I too believe she needs another donkey companion.
EXACTLY! Donkeys have to have another donkey or animal companion!
Qué ocurrió finalmente con ella??
@@anadorsamp3560 I don't understand your language. Only English.
My cousin had two donkeys, they were nice and cute but... They convinced me that donkeys are a lot to handle. Definitely not the kind of animals you just "fall in love with instantly" and decide to keep . they are much stronger than you, they need a lot of care (or at least serious comitment) , they hate being alone so you'll have to have two , they are very emotional means you can hurt them or mistreat them without realizing it, they get angry, they also make "jokes" like bumping into you when you don't expect it, and they live very long. One of the donkeys pushed my father "gently" when he was repairing the trough , my dad got hurt. Then my cousin grew up, the donkeys were ten years old, she had to leave to study, the poor donkeys ended up in my grand mother's field, then my grandma left for retirement home... then there was noone left to take care of them and my cousin was becoming a pharmacist and had other things to do. Fortunately , a donkey afficionado took them in, god bless him, I don't know what would have happened to them. They are almost a lifetime comitment. People should really think twice. NOt some present for kids, no matter how much these kids are gentle, love animals are responsible. It's puting your kids in an impossible position because they will abandon them at some point.
Stella also needs a four legged friend as well.
a male one.
Maybe a male dog?
Stella needs a friend. Please get her one. It should be a priority.
@@dianestrickland1636 YES!!!
@@lvc23 NOT A DOG!!! NEVER A DOG!!!! they HATE dogs... seen to many chewed dogs. donkeys' attack wolves... they will murder a dog.
Hearing Stella cry, broke my heart. She is unhappy. I'm so glad no one was hurt. I hope you find a safe, peaceful resolution for all. She needs other donkey friends. God bless ❤
We’ve raised horses, cows, and lots of other animals… our children knew that any of them could be deadly at any moment. They were not allowed in with any of them when they were little. To this day I carry something in with me when I go in with animals.
After one of our favorite horses got into locoweed, and tried to kill anyone that came near her, we have learned to scour our property for it.
Just because you consider an animal part of the family, doesn’t mean you need to forget they are animals. So glad you are all ok. ♥️
Really solid insight. Thank you ❤️
Friends of our had a GSD who turned against them suddenly and attacked them; sometimes behavior changes like that can be caused by a brain tumor.
Not to confuse being an animal with criminal, or even dangerous, they are not more than humans. We just need to know them better, learn about them when we wanna be in contact with them, learn about nature too.. Like someone said there are plants that can provoc such a behavior... Just as we learn about building when you wanna build a house, about cars and traffic when you wanna drive a car. You wanna live in nature with animals, learn about them
Well said...
It only takes a split second to revert to wild...
Great advice here Georgia Mom ! I second it!
Stella is poor thing. She is all alone. She is not feeling well! I don’t see love but toy to them. There should be an open shelter for her to keep her warm from rain and cold. I don’t think they will spend money to get a vet for her. The house take forever to build. Stella will still be alone everyday.
I was raised on a farm and we had cattle, horses, and even a mule and donkey. Plus more animals. One of the very first things I had to learn as a small girl is that we needed to treat the animals as animals and show them that we were the dominant one. And you can do that and be extremely kind. In fact they have always called me The Horse Whisperer because I used to train wild horses in less than a day. But you need to remember you are a human and they are an animal. If you spoil them too much that's exactly what they do they become the alpha and that's what you do not want them to do. It's normal for them to be an alpha over other animals but you need to watch and make sure that you are the alpha person and you are alpha over all of your animals. FYI I'm a 78 year old woman who still loves the farm.
I agree 100% with CM G's comments. I've been doing natural horsemanship for several years and a horse NEEDS a leader. They're not puppy's (although they also need a leader as well) and are still wild animals. Hope it goes OK for your lovely family and Stella. Oh and FYI, the natural horsemanship group I'm with is called Quantum Savvy. Not sure if they're in Italy or not. All best. You guys work so hard. Well done.
Yes but that animal’ s size and offensive moves ; of kicking and butting is by comparison a larger source of power and quick for them to be overpowered and injured . Even though she was quick thinking to use a hand signal to hault it and responding . They do not have time for Donkey Whispering to train and becoming appropriate by response as gentling a horse to obey ! ? Takes time and for parents , as kids , to have to be constantly vigilant .
And the kids need a shepherd, herding loyal companion dog first ! They herd other farm animals Ie sheep and have it in their nature automatically , to be loyal to their family members stay with them if injured ! Hope this helps as my daughter was a young horse whisperer in order for the animal to over come any issues , whether fear or spooked , by even a foreign object » UNFAMILIAR « or behavioural response to run off or charge in dominance ! ... To kicking raising up its legs , waving its hooves to become larger , for even a plastic bag on the ground the wind catches to move ! ! Your talking about animal behavior studies in animal psychology in animal sciences most farmers learn , teach their family by 4 H clubs . Or a wise farmer could share if they would meet for a reason , socially of being neighbours or helping one another .
As busy as they are ? They must go into the town or meet neighbours locally shaking hands 🙌 They cannot remain isolated nor on they mobile devices but personally join in to meet them , maybe at a church social .The bells 🔔 🔔 are calling them !
I've read the majority of the comments. I think as some have already said, working on the home, Stella not having a companion, treating and talking to her like a human, it's a lot for a donkey. There are some farm animals who need companionship and they do thrive without any human interaction except for feedings. Most don't do well alone. The very fact she's happy when she is around them, make a valid point to either get her a companion or REHOME her where there is other pack animals that would offer her companionship and not isolation.
I cried when I heard about Stella.Thank God nobody was hurt,I love those too beautiful girls, and your family,please,please don’t ever trust any animals ❤️❤️u guys.
@@annacifelli580 your comment is disgusting. "Don't ever trust any animals". Nothing I despise more than animal haters. I have rescued animals all my life and I know what beautiful souls they are.
@@loricampbell1164 You sound like your experience with animals is limited to Disney movies and cartoons. You were very quick to use the word "despise" and label people "animal haters." You must have a very deep well of hate inside you, and you're just waiting, locked and loaded, to spew it out. It's wonderful you have rescued animals and know what beautiful souls they are, but when you don't respect each animal for its true nature, you are not helping or honoring the animal. They are NOT human.
Children's safety always should come first.❤️🙏
You guys have so much going on as a young family. You’re now in a new country with an old stone home with TONS of work! I would focus on your beautiful home and family and give Stella to another home. It’s not giving up it’s putting priorities first. In time if you guys feel ready, you can get an animal.
Maybe for awhile, maybe there's a sanctuary? I learned my lesson when trying to keep a dog that was given up by his owner because they can't keep him where they're moving. He ran away and ended up getting hit by a car. Still hurts. I hope Stella will be happy wherever she'll end up.
When Jennies come in season. They will act crazy.
This makes more sense than anything.
One option to consider is that she may be in heat. That can make them act crazy for a day or more and reoccur every 18-21 days potentially. I have a Jersey cow that is so sweet and gentle most of the time but recently tried to act like she wanted to mount me! I realized right then to get out of her paddock and give her space for a couple days. She has completely returned to her normal self.
It would be good for you to talk to a farmer who has donkeys, about their heat cycles and gain some more understanding of this donkey as farm animal rather than a pet. This doesn’t mean she can never be trusted again, but a healthy dose of respect for her “territory” and cycles will help. A fence is a great barrier for interacting safely with her for the children. She can back off if she’s in a mood.
I’m sorry, ignorance is bliss until it isn’t.
Exactly
She should be spayed.
@@loricampbell1164 you can't spay an equine. Gelding is what is done to males.
@@candyphillips2642 it doesn't matter what it is called....it is the same thing. OMG
@@loricampbell1164 No it isn't the same thing. Spaying a female horse involves removing the ovaries and is major surgery. Gelding a male horse is the simple external procedure of castration.
She's hurting please call the vet. I'm so sorry this has happened but don't give up on Stella.
It would be useful to have a professional (farmer/vet) make sure there is nothing medical going on with her- illness or hidden injury, in order to rule that out.
Please bear in mind keeping your distance from her (for now) is keeping your kids, yourselves and Stella safe. It’s sad but it’s critical.
I've heard that donkeys are often relinquished because of this. There are donkey sanctuaries because people can't trust their donkey.
A first priority is the family, then the donkey. Good on you for trying to take care of the donkey. I love that you honour animals. That is admirable. I hope you're able to find a solution for everyone involved.
Much love to you all.
Stella is venting her frustration from being alone. You really need to consider introducing another donkey.
I actually beg to differ, some even with companions can still be quite aggressive, it’s sometimes to do how much human contact they have in the early years also how they been treated in the past.
The only issue with introducing a new animal is that she will attack it for sure. There needs to be a secure fence on here terrace to help them get used to each other before full intro. Donkeys are social animals and they will behave this way to assert dominance. Your girls are not old enough to assert this yet. Stella wants control!
@@bettablue2660 yes I have to agree about the dominance
I have a friend who is a certified animal behaviorist, and is a donkey mama. If your vet doesn't come up with any answers, I highly recommend finding someone like her to help you identify the cause of the behaviour, and help you address it. Could be pain, physical or psychological. Or accidental training ( think... giving treats when she is being pushy, accidentally teaching her to become increasingly rude untill it becomes aggressive) though I'd say she did seem genuinely stressed.
Stella was definitely stressed about something. Her cry was so high-pitched. I hope you’re able to solve the issue. She otherwise seems like a very sweet animal.
I am 9 months behind watching all the videos but so glad little Chloe is ok.
Two wonderful children that bring tears of joy when I see them and their antics.
Some people think animals are stupid. Wrong. Chloe and Stella went face to face for a split second and there was intense communication in a way we can't understand that stopped a charging animal that knew it could inflict great harm if it wanted to. An amazing experience really that makes you feel so alive because you could quite easily have been dead instead.
I think Stella is lonely. I have heard mum and dad mention the same thing before. They were thinking about getting some kind of companion for Stella. I hope this happens soon.
As far as your garden goes, I think the first strong wind will blow away your leaves. Corrugated cardboard is more ideal than the brown paper. If you can, lay a strip of chicken wire fence down or burlap to hold the leaves until they start to decompose. Also, it is a good rule of thumb to not make the bed wider than you can reach to the middle from each side. 4 foot is ideal.
Also start adding some greens (nitrogen) to the leaves (carbon) mix. If you cut some small tree and shrub branches start layering them with more leaves and you'll accelerate the decomposition process. If there are leftover vegetables from your meals that you're not going to eat, add those in too. Definitely cover the beds with netting or burlap as suggested above to keep everything in place. There's a lot of info online about no-dig.
I have felt for this poor donkey since a started watching your channel and was really happy when you mentioned a few weeks ago that you would find a friend for her. Donkeys shouldn't be kept alone, that's just cruel, like having an inmate in solitary confinement, only this animal hasn't done anything to deserve it. Without being an expert, I guess she was afraid to be left alone again.
Any chance she was protecting you from a nearby danger of some type? It’s a reach, but just a thought? Sending love through this very scary situation. Way to go Chloe! 👏 Brave under pressure!
So sorry to hear about Stella. She acted territorial what it looked like, but best consult the vet. So smart of Bradey to take the video. I hope you get the advise that will benefit all of you. All's well that ends well 🙏
Omg I'm 4 weeks post partum with baby number 5 and this made me cry. Chloe was so brave and calm bless her. That must have been SO scary for you all
She probably isn't sleeping. Please look into getting another donkey guys. Stella will stay up through the entire night out of instinct to watch for predators. She is likely sleep-deprived. She needs a second donkey to stay up so she can sleep. A second donkey will take turns with her by instinct and then both will sleep.
People have been saying this for more than a few episodes now. They never listened and now it's come to this.
This situation made me think of a chapter fromLaura Ingall's Little House in the Big Woods, where their dog seemingly went crazy and anytime anyone tried to leave the house, he would growl and even nip . It was terrifying for a woman alone with a toddler an an infant. She honestly considered shooting the dog as he seemed out of his mind. It was only the next morning when they went out and saw cougar tracks all over their porch that they realized why the dog was so adamantly, even ferociously keeping the family away from the exit.
I admittedly know very little about ruminants, but that is just what popped into my mind.
Two points.. Re Stella. It is never advised to keep one donkey.. They really need a companion donkey. Provided a male is neutered it can be either a male or female. The second point is that donkeys originated in drier barren landscapes and feeding them a rich diet can be lethal for their stomachs... or get them wired up. The Donkey Sanctuary will send you an information pack... But also available online..
Hello! I can imagine you got really scared when you saw Stella like this and when your daughter was in danger falling. But as an owner of donkeys, I believe there is nothing wrong with your Stella. I would strongly advice you to give her company (another donkey) because that's VERY important for donkeys. You will probably see them fighting at first - who is the leader? - but in the end they will be best friends and MUCH happier. Your loving and caring company is not enough for Stella. And even being together, my donkeys act like this now and then. But they are not mad, not unreliable or mean. Be careful with children - always - but give Stella a donkey friend, please.
Donkeys are herding animals and need company.
Did you ask the vet about Stella? Stella needs a friend!!! Maybe she felt intruded upon??? Could she have been alerting you about danger??? The spaghetti looked yummy!!! 🤗❤️🌟🎶🇨🇦
Since the donkey does not have any mental stimulation most the time, they can get angry and frustrated. Maybe Stella is better with a farmer who has other donkeys, after you are done with your house consider a pet that does well alone.
Have you had a Vet look at Stella yet.? YOU need to. We all love her. If one of your children acted up all of a sudden you would seek medical help asap because she is family. Stella is family as well(quote)
@@Del213 I don't have to know an animal to love them.They all need love and compaionship
Been binge watching your show with my 97 yo mum. Am absolutely stunned by the enormous amount of work you have undertaken, by the engagement of the girls in the work, and your family in general. Heather ALWAYS but ALWAYS has a wonderful smile on her face. I am so looking forward to seeing the end result.
Top marks to Chloe on standing up to Stella in an incredibly scary situation. Well done Chloe.
I don't have any advice as I've never owned a donkey! But I have been head butted by a sheep - so I remembered your love of sheep in Scotland on your trip...and a hope to get some. They too can be wilder than they look! What about Guinea pigs - LOL. You look like you have plenty of grass! I wish you all the best. And hope you get the best advice and can ignore the nasty comments.
It is beautiful to see children working, cooking, and having fun with their parents.
I love your cabin and the view. I can’t wait to see what you will do with the cabin. Beautiful view and lovely family. May lord bless you!
I don't have any advice, but I just wanted to say how sorry I am you guys went through that. Especially Chloe. I hope you figure out what is wrong with Stella and don't experience anything like that again. Best wishes to all of you. Watching your adventures is such a joy. ❤❤❤
I think it's very sad but probably Stella suffers a lot from loneliness and she got angry because you left her alone. Consult a veterinarian.
Exactly. Wise. I know many people with donkeys
Coukd she have gotten bit by another animal and got rabbies? I think rabbies can do that.
Or you need to get rid of Stella because you want to travel, and realize this after having adopted her? It seems very strange to me that a sweet, calm, child friendly, child safe animal is suddenly dangerous for no reason. Who fed her while you were gone? Who cared for her? Was she just left to survive on her own?
I’m so glad everyone is safe, although not unscathed. How traumatic for you! I hope you find a good resolution where Stella & your family can happily coexist! 🥰✌️
What a challenging property to keep and maintain. Wow. I came to this channel because of Stella because I used to live with one like her named Charlotte. They are actually fairly unpredictable creatures to begin with, honestly even if they love you. The first thing I thought of with Stella was some kind of separation anxiety or abandonment issue.
You need to find another home for Stella. (The kids' safety takes priority over pets/farm animals).
I’m only 5 minutes into this but having watched most of the Italy vids this is very atypical. One possibility is that maybe she got into a poisonous plant while browsing. In the US cows and other grazers have exhibited similar behavior after ingesting Datura aka Jimsonweed. Many plants in the Nightshade family can also cause these reactions. Just a thought.
Those were my thoughts.
Are you going to use those leaves for mulch? On your vegetables garden or are you using them for composting?
Ye, I should have waited until the end of the video, you answered my question. No dig is brilliant 👍
She’s in pain- internally 😢
@@LeynGee I agree that is a distinct possibility. She needs to be checked by a vet for ulcers or other issues. Have you noticed her rolling a lot or is she spending a lot of time lieing down? How famiiar are you with her behaviour when your family is not actively spending time with her?
Take care family - such a difficult situation. Sending you all hugs and positivity for a “diagnosis” on Stella’s unusual behaviour.
Having grown up around all types of farm animals, primarily cows and goats, but we had our share of donkeys as well, this isn’t abnormal behavior. Donkeys can become very territorial and exhibit aggressive behavior. If not mindful, it can be dangerous-particularly the kicking. Those suggesting another donkey or friend are probably not far from a viable “remedy.” Typically this behavior occurs when the donkey lacks stimulation. For example, moving her to her current location (which is understandable given you are trying to bring order to your land) may have isolated her from freely roaming areas before that kept her “engaged.” A friend may be helpful. Also, getting her out for walks around the areas she used to have access to (of course getting her back may be difficult given the fact it wasn’t the easiest thing when you initially moved her to her current terrace). Best wishes with whatever your decision is. Do what’s best for Stella, but most importantly do what is best for your family. I loved/love the animals that were and are a part of my life, but there are realities of the animal world that aren’t always compatible with ours.
That was very informative and you are right she was very annoyed about something and boy does she have a temper!
Completely agree, she is wanting companionship and likely annoyed she doesn’t have the access she did before. Hopefully they can get her a friend soon 😊
completely agree!
Actually you may be right "For example, moving her to her current location".......I do remember, Stella did not want to move in through the gate on that fenced area.
I love how you work on the house as a family!! Such a beautiful please to be 😊
And so glad everyone is safe ❤
To me it almost seems like she was trying to protect you guys from something on that terrace. Could there have been a snake somewhere or a loose spot near the edge of that terrace? I know Stella is an animal, but it is so out of character for her. You guys said she was standing at the gate like she didn't want you to come back down there. My other thought is she ate something that set her off, some kind of weed or mushroom. My other thought is getting another animal for her to take care of. Full Moon?
Agreed. She may have been trying to protect you all from a venomous snake! Since shes older and more experienced around that part of the country, she may have seen one in her paddock. One way for her to be clear about that is her "serious" demeanor towards you! Ask your neighbors if they have snake issues certain times of the year.......and yes about considering a pasture friend for her. They are emotional creatures and need others of their kind. Also, I agree with cutting her back on the grain. I grew up with horses and too much can make them "hot", as in too spicey.
I hope you can work it out with her, but be firm. She must respect that you are the boss. A kind and understnding one, but the undisputed leader.
I started to tear up too when you said what Chloe did! Wow, Chloe, God gave you wisdom. ❤ You are such good parents.
I had a feeling, sorry this may happen with the donkey Stella, I felt alittle worried when you inherited her with the land. I'd
Rehome her ASAP? I wouldn't risk another episode, you can't afford too, it will give you all peace of mind the girls are safe & u2. All the best with your decision xx
I had 2 donkeys, they played real rough, zoomed around braying, kicked each other and went for each others feet. They went to the donkey sanctuary in Devon, Uk, they wore collars with their ID on with a second tag on the hoof as the donks often pulled the neck ones off playing. My donks would go into attack mode if a dog came into field, stamping on them with front feet, trying to bite and ears pinned back. I think Stella was over excited, she wasnt biting or pinning here ears. Get a halter and lead rein and find out how to lead her properly. She will respect you more.. Donkeys shouldnt be kept on their own, perhaps you could rehome her.
OMG! Sorry for what you guys went through, I'm sure Stella will be okay, but please keep a distance for now and take care of the kids and yourself ❤👋🏽
Find another home for Stella...
If you can't trust the animal...
Its not for you...
You have a history with her now...
She needs to be in a herd...
Get some sheep instead...
But learn how to manage stock...
It's not a lovey dovey bromance...
Get serious and learn some farm management...
No one knows it all...
But you have to start somewhere
Btw... I grew up on a sheep station 28,000 acres in outback Qld, Australia...
Time to smarten up!!!
Love you videos...
Your energies are so welcome and you are all so generous and honest in your experiences...
Blessings to all...
Call a vet please, don’t just leave her hanging, and do nothing!!!! She could of eaten locoweed or another poisonous plant. Take care of your donkey she is your responsibility!
I think you need another Donkey. They are not solitary animals and become very emotional if you 'neglect' them. Having another donkey will help...
That´s a possibility. Stella became part of the family, she loves them, but then they leave her alone again. Maybe she felt lonely. Another donkey would be great I think.
Instead of one dangerous Donkey- two? I think it would be wiser to find for Stella a new home, a farm with other animals, where she will be safe and relaxed.
@@mariamaru9972 well, they could also get a goat. Not a dog, though. Donkeys don't like canines. Especially foxes. It may be possible that the girl may have been in contact with a dog and the donkey sensed the aroma? Nevertheless, getting rid of the donkey seems to be the easy option...
You guys are awesome! It’s so great to see a young family working hard to accomplish a home! Animals often go crazy when in heat! You guys handled it fine!
Ignore every hate message. Those messages are someone trying to make you hurt as they do. All you can do is say a prayer for them. You have love and joy in your lives.
Discovered your channel today and have toasted a whole afternoon watching you live your dream. The house and views are amazing, bless you for taking it on. I'm touched by your challenges with Stella. I see you've had lots of good advice from your audience and hope there will be a follow up video on her.
So sorry that on top of your very challenging renovation of the house, hard physical work on the property, and everything else you have to deal with being in a foreign country , Stella is acting up 😔 You are kind, compassionate people, THANK YOU that you find time to care for her, consult the vet, take videos and share with us. This too shall pass, you will find the way in everything, it will all come together like pieces of a puzzle just give it time....and patience. God speed !🙌🙏
This is a very scary experience, especially when it comes to your kids being in danger.
I hope you find answers soon and find the way to co-exist in a safe and happy way
the donkey may never do this again..... But if she does it could be very serious. Donkey Has to Go! how terrible to be responsible for the outcome of the next attack. Trust is broken with the children too, who were attacked and watched their parents be attacked by Stella, there are many people with different circumstances that will give her a good life, also they may have otheres of her kind, which may be what she needs.
Here I am almost 80years old and love your story, I only found you yesteday and immediately subscribed, it is wonderful to see a family work so well to make their life the way they would like it to be. Thank you for sharing🌹🌿🌹🌿🌹
The families safety is paramount, she will charge again, sadly Stella needs to go to a donkey sanctuary where she will be happy with other donkeys, you where very lucky this time, I know you guys put the girls before anything so be safe and love what you are doing
The majority of the people commenting here, do not have children in harms way, and are prioritizing all things Stella over preserving the lives of those children and possibly the entire family. I do wonder why. L.
When you shared how Chloe reacted to Stella, I immediately thought that her guardian Angel was the one who facilitated that helpful responds. What a challenging and heart breaking situation. I know you all love her so much and also know well how that bond and trust can break so quickly when something like this can happen. Sending a hug and love from Ohio ♥️
I am so sorry this happened guys... I am so thank you are ALL okay through it though! I am thinking it would be best for you guys to stay separated from the donkey forever sadly...
Your children's lives are not worth that risk. Definitely speak to the vet to be sure it doesn't need to be put down.
Stay safe guys xx
Sorry about Stella’s breakdown. You might add some of that wonderful composted soul from digging up the hidden staircase and layer that on your leaf base for your garden. It’s well rotted and rich with nutrients for growing your garden.
I agree with Alle Massa’s opinion. Loneliness and a mixture of territorial feelings even jealousy made her very confused and upset… her crying said much of how she felt, very unhappy. You now have a problem in your hands, she can no longer be trusted and you have two children to look after…please keep safe. ❤
Shes asking for help.
Donkeys need a companion donkey.
I definitely would have her seen by a vet first. She could be in pain in some way. I think she is reacting to something she perceived as a danger. Animals aren’t purposely vindictive or manipulative, ever. They are only sincere. I think there’s a threat somewhere.
It may be helpful to have an animal communicator have a session with Stella. That eliminates the guess work and would provide another interesting video. Enjoying your videos.
I'm glad none of you were hurt. Stella is a lovely donkey, but she remains a donkey. I did some reading after your program and it all becomes clear about her behaviour. Please don't abandon her, but realise she is a donkey and not a pet like a dog. She probably is lonely and in need of some other donkey companionship. I know you all want to love her to bits, but you know she will always be a donkey and have days when she is not so docile. Please take care of yourselves and Stella. Best always, David
I’m just now starting to follow your story and I’m excited to binge and catch up to current events… as far as livestock goes, we have had many different farm animals in the last 30 years including a donkey and a horse right now. I’ll just say this wise statement I was once told by an old horseman and uncle, “a horse is still a horse”. Basically no matter how much you love them or want them to be a pet they are still animals and livestock. They all have different personalities and donkeys are protective and territorial plus you factor in the hormones. You can care for them and love them but always always know they still animals and when it comes to little ones you can never be too careful. We have had our horse and donkey for years but I’m always aware when the littles are around. Hopefully she can get a companion to protect and herd and an area that is hers and separate from the fam and all will be well for you all. ❤
Hey
I am a Turkish guy in the Nethetlands. I don't know much about the donkeys, but I now realize that I know more than you.
I was actually already surprised when I was seeing you so close with the donkey. I thought you know something I don't.
Frankly speaking the terrible thing isn't actually kicking but they bite so and so strong and they can hold heavy weights into the air just by biting and when they bite something they don't release.
they could kill many animals that you won't believe (wolf, hyena, sheeps etc.). and even experienced shephards may not predict when their donkey will get crazy and attact a sheep or so.
so please be very carefull with donkey(s).
Wow, I’ve raised 4 kids so I can just imagine … I cried. Soooo thankful you are all ok!
I am very sorry you had to post a reminder to "be kind".
I have a lot of experience with equines. I read many of the comments and the suggestions are point on. From treating her too much like like a pet, to hand feeding her so often, to possibly warning you about a problem, I"m so glad you talked with an experienced equine vet to get some insight about how to handle her. I really feel this was an attempt by her to establish a herd hierarchy. Which, if you watch videos, can be very mean. Thank God she didnt injure, or worse, the girls or yourselves. Chloe, you handled that like a pro. Take care!
wow. so sorry that happened to you. thank God Chloe and you all are safe. and thank you for not giving up on her. even though you have lost some trust and must be on your guard now. i'm sure you're researching donkey behavior. thank you for taking us along your journey.
Consult a vet Please.🙏
I have nothing but praise for you guys. How anybody can say anything negative about you I don't know.
You are the best parents ever. Love the natural beauty and world messages. Im a therapist and ive not alasys agreed with my profession. Natural is good. Smart folks.
Ohmy gosh, that was a very scary situation. I agree, you can never trust Stella again around your kids or yourselves, for that matter. It is a sad thing to lose that trust, but we just have to remember that they are still wild animals. Please take care of yourselves. Best from Canada.
Glad you are all OK, sending you all lots of love 💛💛
Thank God for your family staying calm and reaching safety. This looks like she is reacting to pain, but the behaviour is dangerous and territorial. Along with a vet call It might be worth calling a donkey sanctuary they may even be able to take her whilst you decide what is best for everyone. You have done nothing wrong and have responded well. I thank God the children are safe and were not hurt.
I understand this happened long ago, but I am also positive it is still fresh in your minds as it looks like you were absolutely unprepared for something so terrifying and confusing to happen. I just want to tell you that everything you have done and are doing for and with Stella was and is more than most and obviously keeping everyone’s best interests, including Stella’s in mind. Donkeys can do serious damage, they are used as herd guardians for a reason, be safe out there! 💔
As other people have already told you, the first thing is to consult a vet to evaluate any health problems, because animals don't go crazy, there is always a reason for their reactions, you just need to understand which one and I hope you can understand it very soon and trust again in Stella❤️
I Love all the things you’re doing, it’s wonderful to see the lovely life you’re building. I wonder if Stella is sensing an earthquake or something. Two of my dogs jumped a fence before a large earthquake once. Merry Christmas and have the happiest New Year ever!
You need to contact the vet, and get a diagnostic on the donkey health!!!
Love your positive attitudes with every challenge.
Love for Stella and your family.
Sorry to hear about this incident, I really love to watch your videos
I am from the Caribbean Islands and I grew with donkeys around our environment,
Donkeys will get very wild and irritated especially when they need a male and would sometimes break loose and runaway
So we were always told as kids to not get too close to them because they will kick
You have your youth and lots of adventures ahead. Keep up the good work. I enjoy watching your Beautiful family.
Prayers for Stella and whatever decision that you make as a family good luck on the garden in the spring much love and blessings
When you related the sudden change in Stella's behaviour, of an animal which went berserk...it was terrifying.
Thank God nothing happened to our precious Chloe.
From the safety point of view, Its best to consult a vet, the soonest as to how best to deal with such a situation .
Rather risky keeping Stella as she cannot be trusted any more.
I love your family, the way you have overcome the shock of being attacked by an animal which till now was docile.
I love the way you work together, raking leaves, reworking the interior walls, cooking...such a nice, close knit , loving family. So much to learn and appreciate the way you stay together.
Bless you with all the happiness in the world.
Much love to Alexa, Chloe. Heather and Bradey. May God keep you all safe always.
How scary and sad with Stella. Glad everyone is safe.
Aww thank you so much for sharing this beautiful journey with us
For those that are being unkind to you ignore them block them. Also there is no such thing as being too kind. Keep being kind to Stella but definitely keep her on the other side of the fence. You should contact other people who have donkey sanctuaries on RUclips and ask them questions.😢❤
Find her a new home with someone that knows how to handle her. You are clearly out of your element. Horse's/donkey's etc., play and when they play they run full speed at you and spin and kick and rear. She needs to be with a handler that can re-teach her spacial boundaries. Best of luck Stella...
Totally agree 👍
Exactly what I was thinking + she,/he needs a friend
I agree.
I love your videos,great parents, wonderful children. Your videos are simple and you share a lot of information to help the viewer understand why you do what your doing. I hope I am not rambling to much, I am 77 years old I do ramble sometimes. Take care and God Bless all of you.
I wont blame you, I just think you've got a lot to learn about having farm animals. I am glad to see that the girls are physically ok from what happened.
I’m impressed! You are wonderful parents. Your girls love to help . Many parents don’t give their kids a chance to do so.
As far as your donkey goes. She needs a friend. A baby donkey would be cool.
Thank you for sharing this sad time.... hope Stella and your family will find somekind of solution... take care.
Crikey, poor Stella she looked very stressed and frightened and/or cross! I hope the girls and you and hubby have recovered from this shock. I guess its just a reminder that she is a big strong animal with a mind of her own, I hope you find out more about what might have caused this. The no-dig garden sounds very interesting.
Without knowing if there is a medical cause to Stella's behaviour the one thing I can tell you is that you have behaved with Stella in a way that tells her she is equal to, if not in charge of, your family. It is important with equines to establish good ground manners. I also notice that you are feeding Stella grain. Mostly Stella should be eating a good quality hay. Hay keeps an equine's digestive track in good working order. Stella appears to be a bit heavier than is ideal for her so for the time being she may not need any grain. Also given her diet her issue may be digestive, perhaps ulcers. Adding a magnesium supplement to her diet may help calm her down. These are issues that should be diagnosed by a vet.
Your children come first. Glad that you feel that way how horrible.
Agree with this 100% I wouldnt add a new friend for Stella. Then you might end up with 2 PMS donkey's.
I love watching hour videos. Your lovely family... We are in Texas, USA. Love Stella