Controller is not as optimal as keyboard and mouse. But, if you get an game session in for a couple of hours, it's way more relaxed. Which I think is a factor in getting good.
I play controller on pc and the first thing i changed was that god awful move right stick to swap targets. I use camera movement while locked on and auto lock on next target. Then just click right stick in to turn lock on off/on. But im going to have to try the B button for swap target now. Tbh as a tank gs/sns i perfer to leave move to attack target on, because sometimes there is so much going on I can't tell if im close enough to hit or not so that setting moves me an inch forward to make sure i do hit my target with mele.
brutha thank you. your videos helped so much my dude and ur commentary is clear and prescise. this one & the amitoi local saved me literally lol. sub & bell incoming👍
I pretty much never hard-lock a target. I stick to soft-targeting, and works fine. Just gotta be more mindful of what's going on, watching where enemies go, etc.
As a xbox player and avid pvp player. Tbh the best option is still lock camera rotation when locked on. Just never lock on and use the soft target system. If you rotate your camera during world boss conflict or archboss fights your camera gets locked onto a random bush and your screwed. Until they fix this we cannot multi task or plan our ground abilities. Not only that. I want my name and health bar above my head. Im sick of trying to find myself in a crowd of 1000 ppl. They have recently added an option where you can turn off the right stick changes target. It makes your soft target a sticky hard target sorta idk if i like it but yes. Until we get full mnk support or a major overhual to the targeting system and ui on console. We are outta luck fellow console players.
Easiest way is to think that the dot in the middle as a mouse pointer and just utilize your right stick to look at your targets. Use cancel target to change target. Lock on function is ass currently
Is there anyway to prevent the lag that occurs when switching between keyboard and controller mode? Using a PC with a controller I like to switch between them sometimes, like I might use a controller but if I want to chat or access settings ill just use my keyboard. The game freezes up for a second to change the UI when switching between them which is so annoying. I've never seen a game do this before usually you can seemlessly switch between the two. Also if im using mouse and keyboard anytime I bump my controller or something my game freezes up then has to freeze again to switch back, this is driving me nuts.
not that I know of it is annoying but its because it is changing a lot of the ui / widgets since they are different between controller and keyboard. Unreal does not handle controller input well when it comes to the ui/ widgets - basically the menus and interfaces.
I think that swap target custom bottom will help a bit. The right stick is inconsistent. But by pressing your custom button it cycles through your attachable options? Where the stick atleast allows you to go back and forth without having to shift through 5 different targets, is that right
ya but you have no camera control if your using the stick to switch targets. If you put the crosshairs on a target then hit the basically tab button it should target the target the crosshairs are on. It doesn't always work but it does most of the time. old school MMO player here used to just tabbing fast until getting the target I want
Just realized there’s a switch to previous target option, so you can switch back n forth rather than cycling through targets. Problem is that’s another button on an already limited basic controller setup.
@@redrepublic5557 Ya and its weird the in game set up will not let you change buttons to long press for some reason it shows that it will but then changes after you let off. This reduces the choices for customizing controls in game. I am working on a better set up for console and a steam controller set up that in my opinion will be so much better.
Pro tip: don't use lock on. Rebind basic attack to Y and run around put cursor on mob and hit Y. Faster mob tagging than on KB mouse. And duh, bind B to block/dodge
I just don't press R3, never use Lock on, if you target enemy normally and press R1 all your skills and attack are directed at your target, you can freely look around with camera, if you want to switch target press R1 while looking at new target, easy and no settings required
It is the lack of access to consoles that makes developers make mistakes like these. They can only estimate what feels right due to them being unable to test the game properly on that platform.
Maybe but I can test controllers in games I am working on in Unreal without even having to use a game build I can test straight from the preview. For a game made in Unreal they did a decent job for allowing players to swap between keyboard and mouse on PC and getting it to work on the UI. It is a pain to get the controller to target the UI in unreal. but devs that don't play games with controllers often have a hard time deciding what buttons should do what.
japan is a country where people until around 5-8 years ago barely used PCs for games and instead played with sony and nintendo consoles. korea is a country where PC bangs(LAN cafes) are everywhere and every kid who has been to school will likely have touched a keyboard more or less while playing with his friends after school. consoles are more of a privilege thing. ffxiv is from japan. t and l is from korea. 1+1
I haven’t tried it. But how well does controller work with healing? Like the single target heal. Do you have to look at the person? Or how can you specify what person to heal.
Works well for self healing and its the same as combat for party healing just target the party member you want to heal and make sure to have move to range on for haling and heal self if out of range off. Then your character will move into range and heal. It really is not that much different from keyboard and mouse. Really just depends which you are more used to using.
@@Playingonthetube trust me, you dont want to have it change via looking at people.. they move too much esp during boss mechs, let alone pvp. you’ll be trying to heal one that needs it but another crosses in front & you accidentally heal them. it’s chaos keep the setting for “able to target allies with crosshairs” or w/e OFF. it’s better to switch between manually with L2 & the dpad imo
@@Playingonthetube You can heal teammates several ways it is best to select the person in the party list though if they are moving a lot you may be slowed down targeting them with your crosshairs
Quickturn is a double tap not a button press hit backwards 2x real fast to turn around instantly On keyboard its most likely s twice with a controller its move the joystick toward you twice
Question, Sometimes When I Heal An Ally It Locks On To Them Permanently With A Yellow Diamond Around Their Number So All My Heals Moving Forward Go To That One Person And Then I Can't Heal Myself Anymore Or Anyone Else For That Matter. How Do I Disable This...
I am not able to access Throne and liberty at the moment but there is a button to cancel friendly target I am looking into all the jankiness with healing from a a controller and will get a guide out on it and how to fix it as soon as I can.
I do not have a ps5 but a player that comments on my channel does and said they do not currently allow keyboard and mouse on the PS5 for some reason. Not sure why they locked the code or removed it for PS5 but with enough feedback they might add it in
Ya it takes some getting used to being able to tab through targets on the controller helps so much. Looking at them with the crosshairs and hitting RB targets them without locking on if you followed the guide. The next video I go over my controller set up that I use. I can quickly change targets and keep an eye around me I usually only hard lock onto bosses
Cancel target button stops your character from attacking. Different than the unlock button, which when pressed will go into target mode but still be auto attacking until you press cancel target.
Does anyone here know how to dye outfits ? So im on ps5 and the weird UI controls somehow won't let me use to change the color patterns for the outfit/cosmetic... I think I’m losing my mind on this. I’ve spent at least an hour researching and watching videos, and searching in game and can’t figure this out. If anyone could help me, i totally appreciate it. 🙏
Until i made the changes in this video I could not attack any mob unless locked on it was super annoying I almost quit over it but then decided to mess with controls and see if I could fix it. Still not perfect but at least its enjoyable now
Controller is poorly supported in this game, and the switching stutter thing when switching from KBM to gamepad make it even worse, I only play with controller never played KBM, to overcome all these non sense i selected the WASD controller preset from Steam and do all the bindings through steam, I have all basic shortcuts in my preset + shortcut for almost every important UI ( character , skills, enchanting, dungeons,auction house,battle pass, shop. etc) The 12 buttons for combat is the only challange, yet you can still make it like the default gamepad if you want to which is R1 + buttons and R2 with Dpad, but if you spend time on the binding to your liking its worth it. Then you can enjoy the KBM UI with the comfort of your gamepad.
Playing with K&M is clunky enough in this game the controller settings look god awful. Must feel pretty bad for pvp with crossplay. Just the fact that you're unable to simply select a different target precisely on the fly is the reason tab target MMOs can never really work on console. They kinda need to be action based to make that transition. BDO is the perfect example of a MMO that transitions very well to console.
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Do you prefer Controller or Keyboard?
Controller it's what I'm used to
I’m on xbox so controller & thanks this helps so much 👍
Controller on PC.
Controller is not as optimal as keyboard and mouse. But, if you get an game session in for a couple of hours, it's way more relaxed. Which I think is a factor in getting good.
Keyboard warrior here! But still feels wonky for me, targeting I have serious issues still.
I like how you are figuring it out as you are trying to teach us lmao good video man
ya lol did a lot of testing and trying things out then while recording stumbled into new things lol
Thank you so much for this vid! Man the lock on system was driving me nuts.
Nice, I frequently fighting with my buttons just to aim and sometimes i wonder why enemy hitting me and im just standing still 😂
ya lol your character will not auto attack an enemy that is hitting you until you hit the attack button
Best thing i did on my controller as a healer was make it so up and down on the D-pad goes up and down on the party list.
this changed my life as well
Instead of holding left trigger and using the d pad?
@CamwayGaming ya, so more like FFXIV controller. Then, to use items, I hold left trigger _ down d-pad, but I also have back buttons on my controller.
@@antoniocordova1999 Ah ok very nice. Its been a while since I played FF14 cant remember if I used a controller in it or not and what the set up was.
I gots to do this
I play controller on pc and the first thing i changed was that god awful move right stick to swap targets. I use camera movement while locked on and auto lock on next target. Then just click right stick in to turn lock on off/on.
But im going to have to try the B button for swap target now. Tbh as a tank gs/sns i perfer to leave move to attack target on, because sometimes there is so much going on I can't tell if im close enough to hit or not so that setting moves me an inch forward to make sure i do hit my target with mele.
brutha thank you. your videos helped so much my dude and ur commentary is clear and prescise. this one & the amitoi local saved me literally lol. sub & bell incoming👍
I am glad the videos helped! As I run into issues I figure I cant be the only one. Do you play on pc or Console?
@@CamwayGaming PS5, Sony fan boi by default lol. I haven't PC gamed in god knows when...
I pretty much never hard-lock a target. I stick to soft-targeting, and works fine. Just gotta be more mindful of what's going on, watching where enemies go, etc.
Somehow my softtarget is gone on PS5.. it's driving me crazy
@@LeagueShortschannel ya until I made these changes I didn't have soft target either on pc for controller.
As a xbox player and avid pvp player. Tbh the best option is still lock camera rotation when locked on. Just never lock on and use the soft target system. If you rotate your camera during world boss conflict or archboss fights your camera gets locked onto a random bush and your screwed. Until they fix this we cannot multi task or plan our ground abilities. Not only that. I want my name and health bar above my head. Im sick of trying to find myself in a crowd of 1000 ppl. They have recently added an option where you can turn off the right stick changes target. It makes your soft target a sticky hard target sorta idk if i like it but yes. Until we get full mnk support or a major overhual to the targeting system and ui on console. We are outta luck fellow console players.
Ps5 has a touch pad that can be used for menu browsing in this game.
Easiest way is to think that the dot in the middle as a mouse pointer and just utilize your right stick to look at your targets. Use cancel target to change target. Lock on function is ass currently
Lock on function for PvP is ass. And without it we’re still at a disadvantage vs MnK
Awesome video thx man
I am glad you like it!
Quite useful, thx!
Is there anyway to prevent the lag that occurs when switching between keyboard and controller mode? Using a PC with a controller I like to switch between them sometimes, like I might use a controller but if I want to chat or access settings ill just use my keyboard. The game freezes up for a second to change the UI when switching between them which is so annoying. I've never seen a game do this before usually you can seemlessly switch between the two. Also if im using mouse and keyboard anytime I bump my controller or something my game freezes up then has to freeze again to switch back, this is driving me nuts.
not that I know of it is annoying but its because it is changing a lot of the ui / widgets since they are different between controller and keyboard.
Unreal does not handle controller input well when it comes to the ui/ widgets - basically the menus and interfaces.
I think that swap target custom bottom will help a bit. The right stick is inconsistent. But by pressing your custom button it cycles through your attachable options? Where the stick atleast allows you to go back and forth without having to shift through 5 different targets, is that right
ya but you have no camera control if your using the stick to switch targets. If you put the crosshairs on a target then hit the basically tab button it should target the target the crosshairs are on. It doesn't always work but it does most of the time.
old school MMO player here used to just tabbing fast until getting the target I want
Just realized there’s a switch to previous target option, so you can switch back n forth rather than cycling through targets. Problem is that’s another button on an already limited basic controller setup.
@@redrepublic5557 Ya and its weird the in game set up will not let you change buttons to long press for some reason it shows that it will but then changes after you let off. This reduces the choices for customizing controls in game. I am working on a better set up for console and a steam controller set up that in my opinion will be so much better.
Yeah thats some good sht right there, lock on button be damned i dont use in anyway
Pro tip: don't use lock on. Rebind basic attack to Y and run around put cursor on mob and hit Y. Faster mob tagging than on KB mouse. And duh, bind B to block/dodge
I still think R1 is more intuitive. And haven’t figured out if I like target or hard lock. There’s pros and cons for both situationally speaking
@@redrepublic5557 Ya make sure to keep lock on as a choice in case you need it. it can be super helpful when moving a lot in combat.
I just don't press R3, never use Lock on, if you target enemy normally and press R1 all your skills and attack are directed at your target, you can freely look around with camera, if you want to switch target press R1 while looking at new target, easy and no settings required
It is the lack of access to consoles that makes developers make mistakes like these. They can only estimate what feels right due to them being unable to test the game properly on that platform.
Maybe but I can test controllers in games I am working on in Unreal without even having to use a game build I can test straight from the preview.
For a game made in Unreal they did a decent job for allowing players to swap between keyboard and mouse on PC and getting it to work on the UI. It is a pain to get the controller to target the UI in unreal.
but devs that don't play games with controllers often have a hard time deciding what buttons should do what.
i have no idea how FFXIV got this so right and this game fucked it up so horridly but... it is.
I really like FF14 it is a fun game
japan is a country where people until around 5-8 years ago barely used PCs for games and instead played with sony and nintendo consoles. korea is a country where PC bangs(LAN cafes) are everywhere and every kid who has been to school will likely have touched a keyboard more or less while playing with his friends after school. consoles are more of a privilege thing.
ffxiv is from japan. t and l is from korea. 1+1
Mouse ftw
@@rzt430blah blah blah. FFXI is the staple of MMORPG not FFXVI but the Young folks don’t and will never know about that👌
@@MAMAvsGOD f u yappin about this is about controller support in jp and kr mmos
I haven’t tried it. But how well does controller work with healing? Like the single target heal. Do you have to look at the person? Or how can you specify what person to heal.
I have my settings custom. For me it would be hold rt/r2 and dead up/down
Works well for self healing and its the same as combat for party healing just target the party member you want to heal and make sure to have move to range on for haling and heal self if out of range off. Then your character will move into range and heal.
It really is not that much different from keyboard and mouse. Really just depends which you are more used to using.
Oh ok so the self heal. Is look at target.
Wasn’t sure if you had to select the name in the party line up
@@Playingonthetube trust me, you dont want to have it change via looking at people.. they move too much esp during boss mechs, let alone pvp.
you’ll be trying to heal one that needs it but another crosses in front & you accidentally heal them. it’s chaos
keep the setting for “able to target allies with crosshairs” or w/e OFF. it’s better to switch between manually with L2 & the dpad imo
@@Playingonthetube You can heal teammates several ways it is best to select the person in the party list though if they are moving a lot you may be slowed down targeting them with your crosshairs
Where do you select the button to quick turn? I have tried but it makes my character morphs.
Quickturn is a double tap not a button press hit backwards 2x real fast to turn around instantly
On keyboard its most likely s twice with a controller its move the joystick toward you twice
@@CamwayGaming Oh okay! I was pressing down twice on the Left stick instead of that, sigh! Thanks for the help.
Question, Sometimes When I Heal An Ally It Locks On To Them Permanently With A Yellow Diamond Around Their Number So All My Heals Moving Forward Go To That One Person And Then I Can't Heal Myself Anymore Or Anyone Else For That Matter. How Do I Disable This...
I am not able to access Throne and liberty at the moment but there is a button to cancel friendly target
I am looking into all the jankiness with healing from a a controller and will get a guide out on it and how to fix it as soon as I can.
Hud settings pls
Bro thank you!
Glad it helped. You play on console or pc?
On console. I was getting frustrated with some of the combat, but the video helped alot!
Nintendo switch pro controller can use for this game isnt it?
Hi there, I’m thinking of playing this game on my ps5 but with mouse and keyboard. Is that allowed?
I do not have a ps5 but a player that comments on my channel does and said they do not currently allow keyboard and mouse on the PS5 for some reason. Not sure why they locked the code or removed it for PS5 but with enough feedback they might add it in
@@CamwayGaming aw 😭 thanks for the info nonetheless.
Omg Ty I kept getting killed due to pulling mobs I don’t want to do to that annoying thing
I am glad it helped and ya pulling unwanted mobs is rough and will get you kicked from a party in dungeons.
I play on ps5 and use keyboard to chat but i cant just press enter to send text i have to use the cursor to do so, anyone knows how to fix this?
That shit is Hella annoying especially when it says press said button to send msg lol.
Press enter twice quickly to send
did redrepublic5557 tip help with this?
The problem is you cant do sht without a target combined with the janky lock on. And whats with the targeting friendlies. That sht is annoying af
Ya it takes some getting used to being able to tab through targets on the controller helps so much. Looking at them with the crosshairs and hitting RB targets them without locking on if you followed the guide. The next video I go over my controller set up that I use.
I can quickly change targets and keep an eye around me I usually only hard lock onto bosses
Cancel target button stops your character from attacking. Different than the unlock button, which when pressed will go into target mode but still be auto attacking until you press cancel target.
you can also do a cancel target with a quick morph in and out.
I use morph more often then the dedicated button.
good to know I never need to cancel auto attacking because I use melee so I never really tried.
anyone know how to teleport to party member with controller?
Does anyone here know how to dye outfits ?
So im on ps5 and the weird UI controls somehow won't let me use to change the color patterns for the outfit/cosmetic...
I think I’m losing my mind on this. I’ve spent at least an hour researching and watching videos, and searching in game and can’t figure this out. If anyone could help me, i totally appreciate it. 🙏
I have not tried to dye anything yet this is definitely worth looking into. Sorry I do not have an answer for you yet.
How can I get a permanent marker on my character cause I loose sight of it when raidind lol please help.
I just dont use the lock on, its janky when youre mobbed lol
Disagree. Think it’s vital for certain PvE situation. For PvP not completely sure still
Until i made the changes in this video I could not attack any mob unless locked on it was super annoying I almost quit over it but then decided to mess with controls and see if I could fix it. Still not perfect but at least its enjoyable now
Ps5 TaL dosesnt support keyboard and mouse even with a dongle
That is unfortunate. It seems silly not to allow keyboard and mouse support since its already built into the game.
I rather they actually fix controller targeting instead of just giving console players keyboard and mouse
I just quit locking on and it seems to be the easiest solve for this shit targeting system lol
Controller is poorly supported in this game, and the switching stutter thing when switching from KBM to gamepad make it even worse,
I only play with controller never played KBM, to overcome all these non sense i selected the WASD controller preset from Steam and do all the bindings through steam,
I have all basic shortcuts in my preset + shortcut for almost every important UI ( character , skills, enchanting, dungeons,auction house,battle pass, shop. etc)
The 12 buttons for combat is the only challange, yet you can still make it like the default gamepad if you want to which is R1 + buttons and R2 with Dpad,
but if you spend time on the binding to your liking its worth it. Then you can enjoy the KBM UI with the comfort of your gamepad.
Playing with K&M is clunky enough in this game the controller settings look god awful. Must feel pretty bad for pvp with crossplay. Just the fact that you're unable to simply select a different target precisely on the fly is the reason tab target MMOs can never really work on console. They kinda need to be action based to make that transition. BDO is the perfect example of a MMO that transitions very well to console.
Love the controller, but I'm keyboard handicapped.