Feminism in the broadest sense is a belief in equality between the sexes. The notion of equality between humans, irrespective of characteristics, is a fundamental tenet of basic human rights.
The last comment was the cherry on top. How far do liberal feminists take equality? I saw a Google result that said they oppose prostitution, but that seems like bodily choice to me.
@@JasonFuhrman As far as I understand, the original liberal feminists assumed that issues like this would inevitably disappear once women could own property and could educate themselves. Like Helena is suggesting, they assume it happens out of necessity in a patriarchal society. And some, especially the cultural feminists at the time, argued that the traditional marriage structure was a form of prostitution in and of itself. So they took for granted that it was bad.
@@strangementalitypaperYT I’m reading a book on the various forms of feminism right now. I read about these and other forms during school. That is listening. And this video is simply discussing the ideas in a neutral context, is it not? All I did was read a book and summarize it. If your response is to demand what I’ve already done, and to further suggest that I’m speaking on your behalf, then it seems that you’re playing the victim and demanding special privileges. I will not simply believe. I will treat you as an equal by questioning you and holding you to a standard like anyone else. If you can’t handle that, then you don’t believe in equality. It’s almost like vague declarations of “equality” aren’t sufficient to define a belief system.
Feminism in the broadest sense is a belief in equality between the sexes. The notion of equality between humans, irrespective of characteristics, is a fundamental tenet of basic human rights.
The last comment was the cherry on top.
How far do liberal feminists take equality? I saw a Google result that said they oppose prostitution, but that seems like bodily choice to me.
Commoditisation of the body isn’t a free positive choice but the sad result of an oppressed society where individuals have few or no other choices.
@@helenasf1782 but regardless of the "why" wouldn't it still be fair to use your body how you want?
@@JasonFuhrman I see it as an oxymoron. Eg it’s like saying can’t someone be free to sell themselves into slavery.
@@helenasf1782 well take something like onlyfans. How do they feel about that?
@@JasonFuhrman
As far as I understand, the original liberal feminists assumed that issues like this would inevitably disappear once women could own property and could educate themselves. Like Helena is suggesting, they assume it happens out of necessity in a patriarchal society.
And some, especially the cultural feminists at the time, argued that the traditional marriage structure was a form of prostitution in and of itself. So they took for granted that it was bad.
You probably shouldn't speak for feminists and instead ask us what we believe and listen.
@@strangementalitypaperYT
I’m reading a book on the various forms of feminism right now. I read about these and other forms during school. That is listening. And this video is simply discussing the ideas in a neutral context, is it not?
All I did was read a book and summarize it. If your response is to demand what I’ve already done, and to further suggest that I’m speaking on your behalf, then it seems that you’re playing the victim and demanding special privileges.
I will not simply believe. I will treat you as an equal by questioning you and holding you to a standard like anyone else. If you can’t handle that, then you don’t believe in equality.
It’s almost like vague declarations of “equality” aren’t sufficient to define a belief system.