Mike and Darren: Unplugged ep. 4

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  • @georgebradford418
    @georgebradford418 Год назад +90

    Big thanks to Sugrue's daughter for these. You've changed a lot of lives getting these guys on the internet. I'm a polysci student and these video's fill in a lot of what professors either dont know about, can't focus on, or just miss.

    • @floresdta
      @floresdta Год назад +1

      Fr have you heard the podcast she’s hosting

    • @mariovicente
      @mariovicente Год назад

      @@floresdta which podcast?

    • @floresdta
      @floresdta Год назад +3

      @@mariovicente it’s called The Idea Store

    • @mariovicente
      @mariovicente Год назад

      @@floresdta thanks!

    • @floresdta
      @floresdta Год назад +1

      @@mariovicente he has a Substack which is like a blog/writing forum that I would recommend too

  • @gregoryrobertson
    @gregoryrobertson Год назад +24

    This channel is so much more valuable and meaningful than my undergraduate degrees.
    The video on Stoicism brought me to tears. What a treasure chest of a resource.
    You're a legend, Michael, and this footage enriches lives. Thank you.

    • @zarathustrafoundation
      @zarathustrafoundation Год назад +6

      Crying during a video on Stoicism? How ironic.

    • @not_emerald
      @not_emerald Год назад +1

      All men die, but not all men die whining.

    • @gregoryrobertson
      @gregoryrobertson Год назад +1

      @@zarathustrafoundation Please explain, I'd love to hear :-)

  • @cmustard599
    @cmustard599 Год назад +3

    Delighted to hear these guys chat and invoke Kubrick and Cohen in the same conversation.

  • @erelian_sardonic
    @erelian_sardonic Год назад +17

    Glad to be here! My fave philosophically and culturally erudite professors on youtube, for sure! Thank you all for the easily-accessible contribution.

  • @3rd_POV
    @3rd_POV 6 месяцев назад

    Will be missing these discussions - but will rewatch the old ones.

  • @RealProfessionalHumanBeing
    @RealProfessionalHumanBeing Год назад +12

    Thank you to everyone involved with this channel for such a powerful educational tool. Professor Sugrue's talks are just medicinal. I cannot describe it better than that.

  • @Dgilstrapnature
    @Dgilstrapnature Год назад +6

    Dr. Sugrue, thank you again for highlighting the connection between Xenophon's Anabasis and the Warriors! Stellar insight. I appreciate the channel.

  • @recluse-audio3245
    @recluse-audio3245 Год назад +17

    Please consider applying a portion of this to get a premium zoom account so as to not limit these two to 40 minutes!

    • @dr.michaelsugrue
      @dr.michaelsugrue  Год назад +23

      ok. I'll tell Genny

    • @grapeshott
      @grapeshott Год назад +2

      @@dr.michaelsugrue whatever but plz don't stop uploading on RUclips.

    • @Incandescence555
      @Incandescence555 Год назад +1

      Prof I second this and if you wanted to set up a patron to lubricate your air time many would support this I am sure. Best wishes from the south east of England

  • @mlokosss
    @mlokosss Год назад +6

    seeing this live, what a treat

  • @username1235400
    @username1235400 Год назад +6

    These gentlemen 👌....No fluff. Pure substance. Love it.

  • @BruceCrane-di5et
    @BruceCrane-di5et Год назад +8

    Thank you professors Sugrue and Staloff for being willing to share with the rest of us your love of learning. Every episode is a masterclass in respecting your audience and proving how much fun learning can be. The joy you two masterminds exhibit sharing what you’ve learned about so many things is truly infectious. Not a feeling I ever experienced sitting in a high school or college classroom. The only other time I remember being this excited to watch something learned was when PBS aired the old television series, Meeting of Minds, created, hosted and moderated by Steve Allen. I would love to hear how you two historians might reimagine Mr. Allen’s daring concept for today’s audience; whom might you resurrect from the past to share a debate stage. I myself would love to see G.K. Chesterton and Nietzsche square off. I hope you’re feeling better, Dr. Sugrue.

  • @mejusthappyrobot1008
    @mejusthappyrobot1008 Год назад +3

    Please, please, please keep these fantastic discussions coming!!!

  • @kristiyaniliev4002
    @kristiyaniliev4002 Год назад +10

    Thank you. Long live your friendship/collaboration.

  • @branchDerridian
    @branchDerridian Год назад +5

    These were some excellent underrated picks. Love the film and music references

  • @galindoof
    @galindoof Год назад +3

    I commented this before but I'd really like for both to read. 2 content suggestions!
    1) Would love to hear Dr. Sugrue do a in depth lecture on Socrates and why he has an appreciation for Socrates as opposed to Plato and Aristotle.
    2) An episode of Mike and Darren talking about quotes, verses, etc. That impacted both in their lifetime

  • @mychanneljavedmanan3711
    @mychanneljavedmanan3711 Год назад +1

    These lectures are so great and amazing! A big salute to you all! I am an MPhil scholar, studying literary theories. These lectures have helped me so much. I would request Dr. Michael to have a lecture on Naratology as literary theory.

  • @MB-ue2rf
    @MB-ue2rf Год назад +3

    Long format is welcome here. I sneak-watch you at work, but still couldn't get enough of this. It was good, was getting into the talk of generational points of view in America with a Leonard Cohen future in mind. But anyway, thank you guys so much.

  • @jeanfrancoiskolyonivogui9204
    @jeanfrancoiskolyonivogui9204 Год назад +1

    You two make a lifelong learning project something that sustains life itself. Man does not live by bread alone; learning does feed man also. Thank you so much!

  • @poeticdiscourse
    @poeticdiscourse Год назад +10

    These exchanges are now my favourite thing on RUclips. Such an utter pleasure listening to these two intellectual giants riff on what they find great, crap, or interesting. I feel renewed in my love for ideas and the great sea of thought history has left us to wade through. Splendid!

  • @myopic_cyclops
    @myopic_cyclops Год назад +25

    I keep a scratchpad with proper nouns that you two mention so I can look into them later. Soon I'll need a second page haha. Also, it seems that every time you two have a conversation, the livestream ends early at 35-40 minutes. Is there a way you could extend the stream for your full conversation? Either way, thank you for sharing what you will. Take care!

  • @temitope6830
    @temitope6830 Год назад +1

    Thank you so much Genevieve!!

  • @ManOfContemplation
    @ManOfContemplation Год назад +6

    Watching these guys discuss topics convinces me a true intellectual friendship is truly possible!

  • @mwyounas1
    @mwyounas1 Год назад +5

    Thank you for making these lectures public. Truly grateful. Please keep producing. With love and best wishes from Pakistan.
    Small suggestion: It's my guess that more descriptive titles of videos can help more RUclips users discover these gems.

  • @globalistatistik1489
    @globalistatistik1489 Год назад +4

    Perfect

  • @bokagoofy
    @bokagoofy Год назад +1

    super interesting and delightful conversation. Hope to see many more episodes.

  • @jacuzzistyles5997
    @jacuzzistyles5997 Год назад +1

    Just a house wife/ uni student living in suburbs 🙄…getting all excited when these pop up! Really appreciate it, think maybe a discussion on “Hannah Arendt” could be on the cards?

  • @thattimestampguy
    @thattimestampguy Год назад +1

    0:38 Late 1970s Movie called _The Warriors_ is underrated to Michael Sugrue.
    3:20 Andrei Tarkovsky, who made 7-8 films, Darren Staloff likes his story structure, The material he uses is great.
    7:25 Horse walks across a field for 5 minutes 🐎.
    10:16 2001 _The Star Baby_
    11:26 _A Clockwork Orange_ by Anthony Burgess, film by Stanley Kubrick.
    15:32 _Gone With The Wind_
    16:35 Alex - Without Law

  • @johnnystob4037
    @johnnystob4037 Год назад +1

    Wow this is so cool! Two of my favorite lecturers talking about my major! Best video ever

  • @Walzian0
    @Walzian0 Год назад +1

    I love you guys so much! I’ve had some health issues that have taken me away from school but no matter where I go, hospitals, clinics, or stuck in bed, I’ve been able to explore philosophy with you guys! Your commitment to FREE high quality education has helped me immensely and is something I will not forget! Keep up the amazing work!!

  • @slavabrodetskiy597
    @slavabrodetskiy597 Год назад +5

    I think a conversation about and critique of Allan Bloom's The Closing of An American Mind would be interesting, especially as it pertains to cultural norms today.

  • @The.Nasty.
    @The.Nasty. Год назад +1

    Thank you very much 🙏🏼

  • @jamentrojcak2852
    @jamentrojcak2852 Год назад

    absolutely love these! i would appreciate more topics specifically on philosophy, i would imagine that witnessing a discourse about some of the topics these two brilliant men have lectured on in the past would be something to behold!

  • @iExamineLife
    @iExamineLife Год назад +1

    Hope you are well Mike and thanks both again for your time and teaching! 🙂🤙🤙🤙

  • @jeffm7472
    @jeffm7472 Год назад

    Sugrue. Thanks for putting your collected knowledge up.

  • @craigtunnicliffe9095
    @craigtunnicliffe9095 Год назад

    THE BEST THING ON THE INTERNET!

  • @drillsargentadog
    @drillsargentadog Год назад +1

    Are the abrupt cutoffs just to create cliffhangers?? I spent most of my teenage years idolizing L. Cohen as a songwriter. Now almost 30, for many reasons, I had put him aside and thought he was ultimately a lost cause. But Mike and Darren are some of the best literate, intellectual voices in my life right now and they have led me to reevaluate so many things I thought I knew. Kind of dying to see their full discussion on Cohen. BTW "The Future" was an insane experience the first time I listened to it when I was about 12.

  • @kerrymuir9891
    @kerrymuir9891 Год назад

    🦜🐢🦎🐲🦚🐍🫖🍵🎰🗝📗📚🗾🧭🦓💚 wonderful conversation, thank u💝

  • @shutincinema4050
    @shutincinema4050 Год назад +4

    Another amazing unplugged episode (though I really wanted to hear what Professor Stalof was going to say about Leonard Cohen’s most distinctive trait before the video timed out)! I was particularly pleased that they ventured into the realm of cinema and that they covered Tarkovsky and Kubrick!
    Any fans of Laurence Sterne’s “Tristram Shandy” should check out the film version “A Cock & Bull Story”.

  • @JosiahWarren
    @JosiahWarren Год назад +1

    You two . Epic

  • @thegeordierambler4373
    @thegeordierambler4373 Год назад

    Loved this one guys! Thank you!! Staying until the end I latched on to Leonard Cohen and ProfSugrue gave me ‘The Future’ . Never heard of it.. so I listened to see why it freaked you out! I watched a live version on.. and I couldn’t shake one of my favourites! It’s Chris Rea “ Road to Hell” full version of course! Also Stanley Kubrick and A Clockwork Orange. Why miss the music to this film? Come on Rossini.. a genius… La Gazza Ladra I absolutely adore!! It is so demanding on the listener.. Brilliant. I love you guys!

  • @coolhandphilip
    @coolhandphilip Год назад +1

    Cormac McCarthy always cheers me up.

  • @brandonbarbour8864
    @brandonbarbour8864 Год назад +5

    huge shout out to genevieve for her talent scouting abilities

  • @Finnegeas
    @Finnegeas Год назад +1

    Really enjoyed this, ya dig!

  • @Len124
    @Len124 Год назад +2

    Andrei Tarkovsky! So glad Dr. Staloff gave him a shout out. _Stalker_ is a masterpiece of the sci-fi genre and a beautiful film in general. He also fits the format perfectly, being recognized as one of the greatest filmmakers, period, but not a household name in the West like Kubrick or Coppola because of the porous, but still present, cultural barrier posed by the Iron Curtain.

  • @israelrabbit1943
    @israelrabbit1943 Год назад

    amazing as always! greetings from Perú!

  • @matthiasvillwock320
    @matthiasvillwock320 Год назад

    Thank you!

  • @m3tamonk3y4
    @m3tamonk3y4 Год назад +2

    Keep going.

  • @jeffm7472
    @jeffm7472 Год назад +2

    “When I was a young man, I read all of Nietzsche and that is not a good sign” - Sugrue

  • @codynesbitt4972
    @codynesbitt4972 Год назад

    I will personally transfer $100 Australian dollars to you if you put on your old suit and gave us just one more perfect lecture like the Princeton days. Your channel has been such a wealth of knowledge to me and I share this other too. Thank your Dr Sugrue

  • @LetsFindOut1
    @LetsFindOut1 Год назад +1

    20:00 love hearing about Cormac Mccarthy

  • @juliunofaquitaine
    @juliunofaquitaine Год назад

    I love this content!!

  • @karo7887
    @karo7887 Год назад

    Thanks!

  • @vogelofficial
    @vogelofficial Год назад

    Tarkovsky, Leonard Cohen, The Warriors - this is my alma mater right here!

  • @drkissinger1
    @drkissinger1 Год назад +2

    re: Tarkovsky, I always recommend Andrei Rublev as my favorite of his works. Solaris and Stalker are both great movies, but I think period pieces are more suited to Tarkovsky's talents than science fiction.

  • @floresdta
    @floresdta Год назад

    HE FINALLY GOT AN HD CAMERA THANK YOU

  • @gorgonzolabarolo1235
    @gorgonzolabarolo1235 Год назад +1

    you guys Make the Internet Great Again MIGA 🤣

  • @clayton7463
    @clayton7463 Год назад

    Great convo. Glad the Passenger/Stella Maris and Gaddis were brought up

  • @C.D.Romulus
    @C.D.Romulus Год назад

    Gentlemen I would love to hear you guys do movie reviews and breakdowns of how they relate to ancient mythology. I could listen to 2 hours of you breaking down the Warriors movie ❤️❤️❤️

  • @timmulhern8188
    @timmulhern8188 3 месяца назад

    These two are a hoot😅

  • @jdzentrist8711
    @jdzentrist8711 Год назад +1

    Well, after listening to this interesting conversation I've got to add a few things to my list: "Tristram Shandy"; "Clockwork Orange"; "Portrait of the Artist" (it's been half a century); Cohen's "The Future"; "The Warriors"; Tarkovsky; Nick Cave & The Bad Seeds. I doubt that the Sterne book is really under-rated, yet, in comparison, I suppose so. I've yet to see Tarkovsky and hope to remedy that, and soon. (It was interesting to see Xenophon added to the 3rd edition of "The History of Political Philosophy." )

  • @ryandevens9423
    @ryandevens9423 Год назад +4

    Again, I will pay for a premium zoom subscription please don't limit these two to 40 minutes!

  • @blurredlenzpictures3251
    @blurredlenzpictures3251 11 месяцев назад

    Love the Tarkovsky conversation. Kubrick, Bergman, Kurosawa, Bresson, Renoir, Welles, Vigo, Fellini, Jodorowsky. Yes, Plato, there is great poetry 👌

  • @Rk-gh4to
    @Rk-gh4to Год назад

    Sir, please do one or more on faust, i found your faust lecture most refreshing inspirational thing i ever watched!

  • @sean.3909
    @sean.3909 Год назад

    Kubrick and Tarkovsky are my 2 favorite directors! ❤️❤️❤️

  • @kassi111100
    @kassi111100 Год назад +1

    U guys should have conversation about aleksandr solzhenitsyn and the book gulag archipelago

  • @floracash
    @floracash Год назад

    YYYYEEEESSSSS

  • @coolhandphilip
    @coolhandphilip Год назад

    I want a movie, a post-post modern commentary, on "My Dinner With André" but with Darren and Michael.

  • @waterdragon2012
    @waterdragon2012 Год назад

    Nice cliffhanger at the end, on to episode 5

    • @waterdragon2012
      @waterdragon2012 Год назад

      Ah I was hoping to hear more on L Cohen, oh well

  • @siryknott27
    @siryknott27 Год назад +2

    The correct title for this video is, 'What was distinctive about Leonard Cohen, by Tristram Shandy.'

  • @alstewart3540
    @alstewart3540 Год назад

    You might enjoy the writings of the 18th century visionary and polymath emmanuel swedenborg Dr. Sugrue. If you can suspend disbelief it is some of the most beautiful philosophy I have ever read

  • @CodeNameShadowDude
    @CodeNameShadowDude Год назад

    Gold!

  • @driesvanc8764
    @driesvanc8764 Год назад

    I like how Mike reveals his giant beer horn at the end.

  • @25EZpcs.
    @25EZpcs. Месяц назад

    This is such good stuff

  • @maolsheachlannoceallaigh4772
    @maolsheachlannoceallaigh4772 Год назад

    I've generally found arty films to be as formulaic in their own way as Hollywood movies. Storytelling conventions are not shackles, they are timeless.

  • @LanceXBT
    @LanceXBT Год назад

    the warriors is such a nice movie

  • @dilly2000
    @dilly2000 Год назад

    Ask more questions and let the man talk. We care about his views.

  • @historicusjoe121
    @historicusjoe121 Год назад +1

    You guys should host TCM classic movies. It would help me forget how much I miss Robert Osborne and wipe away my disdain for that buffoon Ben Mankiewicz.

    • @cheri238
      @cheri238 Год назад +1

      How funny!!!! Lol 🤣

  • @nicholasdepaola3740
    @nicholasdepaola3740 Год назад

    Dr. Sugrue I would love to hear your thoughts on William Blake? No other poet/artist have captured reality quite like him.

  • @Yellowgary
    @Yellowgary Год назад

    Hey guys would you cover some more stoicism, maybe some natural law, im just starting to get through this channel so I don’t know if you’ve done more. Either way I’m a big fan

  • @Steve-bg9dh
    @Steve-bg9dh Год назад

    Enjoy this immensely but why is it cutting off before you're finished? Would've liked to have heard your thoughts on Leonard Cohen.

  • @khuzaimahhaleem4994
    @khuzaimahhaleem4994 Год назад +1

    Would watching all the lectures on this channel be equivalent to a BA in Philosophy? Please do let me know. I very much want to know the answer to this question

    • @dr.michaelsugrue
      @dr.michaelsugrue  Год назад +11

      No. A BA in philosophy will make a mess of your psyche, while the rambling of two old geezers is generally innocuous.

    • @MrDaajani
      @MrDaajani Год назад

      @@dr.michaelsugrue HAHAHAHHA I AGREE

  • @mynameisjefferson3771
    @mynameisjefferson3771 Год назад +1

    I find Sugrue’s analysis of A Clockwork Orange interesting but off. I think the film is less a critique of Hollywood and violence, and more a critique of behaviorism. For behaviorism to work, you only need people’s behavior to be such that they don’t cause harm to others; but there is more to our idea of goodness or good people than just merely not causing harm to others.

  • @acolus3413
    @acolus3413 Год назад +1

    Does Dr.Sugrue and Dr.Staloff have any Advice on pursuing a humanistic Education/Intellectual life on your own without going to University?

    • @poeticdiscourse
      @poeticdiscourse Год назад +2

      Considering that you're here listening to these men speak instead of watching TikTok videos is already an indication that you're taking the right steps. Perhaps consider taking note of the thinkers they mention that align with your natural interests, then find out 1 or 2 people who influenced those thinkers, read about them, and then find out who the most prominent critic of said thinkers is (or was) and become acquaintaned with that thinker.

    • @acolus3413
      @acolus3413 Год назад +2

      @@poeticdiscourse Will do! currently slogging my way through Dr.Sugrue Syllabus for western tradition on his Substacks.
      Thanks!

    • @dr.michaelsugrue
      @dr.michaelsugrue  Год назад +7

      This is a lifetime commitment. Good luck and God bless.

  • @ttacking_you
    @ttacking_you Год назад

    _Andrei Rublev_ 💯💯🔥. Prof. Staloff was not lying about it

  • @martinbowman1993
    @martinbowman1993 Год назад

    Recently I have begun to learn Homeric greek and I'm revisiting geometry to better understand Plato and other philosophers.
    Do you think deductive reasoning roots the divided line analogy in a sense that our models of understanding get closer to reality so that our ideas are more plausible in that we can better distinguish between what is possible and what is impossible?

  • @kylieisola4735
    @kylieisola4735 28 дней назад

    Warriors come out to play. 😉

  • @etucker82
    @etucker82 Год назад +1

    That's a little unfair to Spielberg. Sure, the blockbusters are cotton candy, but Spielberg has gotten more and more personal, more and more political, more and more in depth, more and more diverse in the variety his output. He is, at this point, a very serious filmmaker, even if he wasn't in 1980. Remember, Shakespeare was written off as a barbarian at the time.... Not that Spielberg is a Shakespeare, but he's closer to Shakespeare's ethos than Tarkovsky, and even if Spielberg is no Shakespeare, he might be remembered as someone like Victor Hugo....
    And when it comes to plagiarism, let's face it, novelists are not the most original creatures either.

  • @patbreacadh
    @patbreacadh Год назад

    Love the Tarkovsky vs James Bond dichotomy! :) Check out _Stalker_ (1979). Better if you understand the original of course.

  • @not_emerald
    @not_emerald Год назад

    Nick Cave, Leonard Cohen, Bob Dylan, Tom Waits and Joanna Newsom, in no particular order, are probably the greatest singer songwriters the world has seen. I particularly like what dr. Sugrue said about jews and catholics being close in that creative state. I'm pretty sure Dylan went from one to another. "The Future" is indeed horrifying. Dylan does a similar thing in a personal journey in "Where Are You Tonight" from Street-Legal, a 78 album. It's a pity that the conversation cut off while they were discussing Cohen.

  • @Secular-Republic
    @Secular-Republic Год назад

    Dr Michael , could I put your video in my channel to share knowledge. Thank you for your hard work.

  • @LanceXBT
    @LanceXBT Год назад

    Would love to listen to an AMA.
    so many questions... how did mr sugrue so eloquent. what inspired him etc etc.

  • @npc-lowlife6940
    @npc-lowlife6940 Год назад

    Nice jacket darren!

  • @DubTheDirector-bg1cx
    @DubTheDirector-bg1cx 2 месяца назад

    Can you dig it…….!

  • @TheBookOfJawn
    @TheBookOfJawn Год назад

    Both this episode and the previous one ended early. Is there a way to hear the entirety?

  • @robmurray33
    @robmurray33 Год назад +1

    Just missing the horn of beer :)

    • @robmurray33
      @robmurray33 Год назад +2

      Oh shit - It showed up @29:09

    • @dr.michaelsugrue
      @dr.michaelsugrue  Год назад +4

      I like a pint in a glass drinking horn, because you can't put it down.

    • @robmurray33
      @robmurray33 Год назад +1

      @@dr.michaelsugrue Ha. Fair enough.
      Topic suggestion - reaction videos to Shelly's course - ruclips.net/p/PLEA18FAF1AD9047B0

  • @seanmchugh840
    @seanmchugh840 Год назад +1

    The three greatest films about mistaken states of mind, as not widely understood as per _The Warriors_ , which I've analysed- _Forbidden Planet_ , _The Wicker Man_ , _Reservoir Dogs_ - I have a channel here... Wish more guys of your intellect could comment- esp on RD, my narrated slideshow being the better produced, even if it's now out of date following much more material found.

  • @Digiphex
    @Digiphex Год назад +1

    Do you still have the tan corduroy blazer?

    • @dr.michaelsugrue
      @dr.michaelsugrue  Год назад +3

      After I got sick I gave away most of my posessions including books, clothes, even fishing tackle. I am not interested in accumulating distractions.

    • @Digiphex
      @Digiphex Год назад

      @@dr.michaelsugrue I'd like to see a closeup of your bookshelf in the background there with you giving a blurb about some of your favorite books in there.

  • @noahw1211
    @noahw1211 Год назад

    Man I wanna know what was so distinctive of leonard cohen…

  • @Angela-ru5ud
    @Angela-ru5ud Год назад

    do you have a talk on Kazantzakis

  • @LongDuree
    @LongDuree Год назад +1

    Hesse: Glass Bead Game