Jordan Peterson is a “False Prophet”
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- Опубликовано: 3 фев 2024
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" Half of what he says is obvious, the rest is made up".
Or wrong. Or stupid. "Solar or wind? What happens at night? The sun goes down!" Yes, Jordan, but solar energy can be stored and the wind doesn't stop at night.
@@pipster1891 and tidal energy is reliable and massive.
what's aboutz thee Geothermals as well...
@@pipster1891 sorry but he is right in a way on that score. Renewables cannot replace fossil fuels . It amounts to 16 terawatts a year. Wind, solar, storage, even nuclear cannot supply this amount of energy reliably or quick enough at this moment Even the renewable infrastructure will have to be massive and pretty much built out of f fuels. Where is that c02 going to go? The fossil fuels are running out fast too. Peterson doesn't get any of that of course. He's too busy holy rolling.Buy long John's while they're still available.
Jordan "I've gone through the relevant literature" Peterson
There's nothing false about telling young men to straighten out their lives.
@@DestinyAwaits19that part of it is great; it’s his ignorant, smart-sounding sound bites about topics that he’s clearly either ignorant or omissive about that I don’t care for!
@@DronesConnection Which would include what exactly?
he was on a sub-committee, basically spell checking someone's work who actually on the committee - re UN Climate change
He interviewed Bibi uncritically and is a business associate of Shapiro. What more need be deduced?
Philosopher of the masses? More like propagandist
Peterson's entire philosophy can be summed up as follows:
"1. Have discipline and take responsibility for the problems in your life, but not _those_ problems; those would take a lot of discipline and effort to change.
2. Treat yourself like someone worth helping, but don't treat you community that way.
3. Befriend those who want what's best for you, just as long as "best" just means anything you already want.
4. Compare yourself to who you were yesterday, so long as you can make yourself look good or your current goals look worthwhile.
5. Do not let your children do anything that makes you dislike them, but if the right people are doing things that would normally make you dislike them, it is what it is.
6. Clean your room, but don't try to fix your society; again, that's too much effort.
7. Pursue what is meaningful, so long as it's expedient.
8. Tell the truth - or at least don't lie - unless the truth is complicated or inconvenient.
9. Assume people you listen to know something you don't, unless they're one of those woke postmodern neomarxists.
10. Be precise in your speech, unless vagueness can further your goals better than precision can.
11. Do not bother children while they are skateboarding, bother them when they're exploring their identities in a way you don't like.
12. Pet a cat when you see one on the street; compassion is a virtue best exercised expediently to random animals, not to those you find hard to have sympathy for."
Sounds like 12 rules for dweebos
excellent rundown
Spot on.
@axileus9327 When it comes to the philosophy he actually lives by, as far as I'm concerned, his actions speak louder than his written words.
@axileus9327 peterson claims the hierarchies of capitalism are based on competence.
he is "demonstrably" WRONG.
the hierarchies of capitalism are /\ pyramid shaped, while every natural hierarchy of competence is a bell curve.
/\ pyramid hierarchies are artificial and integral to capitalism/profit, there has to be a very large base in a capitalist hierarchy in order for profit to be generated, profit is not possible in a natural bell curve hierarchy.
He's a paid shill.
I suspect Kuba and/or Ben will get to this, but its so wrong I just have to pause the video lol. What Peterson says at 6:00 is just completely wrong. You can read this in the associated Guardian article with 'word salad of nonsense' in its title if you look it up (they dropped their paywall, yay!!). Climate models don't have errors that accumulate like compound interest. Weather does, but not climate. There are models made back in the 60s that are still valid today. And then at 6:40 when he says that Germany ended up using more energy than they created, that is just plainly false. You can look up the energy usage graphs over time in Germany, they are free on Wikipedia. Since the year 2000 Germany has considerably increased their use of wind and solar, to the point where now it accounts for 20% of their energy sources. So what he is saying is total nonsense. The technologies are proven and they work. There are even entire countries like Iceland and Costa Rica which are 100% driven by renewables. So if renewables really "cost more energy than they created" then these cases would be impossible.
The thing is Peterson has garbage sources. He only talks to like one or two people - either Richard Lindzen or Bjorn Lomborg, two well-known climate change deniers known for cherry picking their data, and concludes he's done solid research. The man is a total fool. And what is stunning about it is that he's supposed to be a psychology professor, so you would think he's well-equipped to understand the dangers caused by psychological biases that would lead him to reading two partisan sources and thinking he's done his background reading. How can you ignore 10,000+ scientists on the other side who are united in disagreement, including leaders in the field? How is that possible, for someone who went to Harvard? I can't even DREAM of an undergraduate making such a gallingly bad mistake in any of their term papers, as to summarize an entire field by reviewing the work of two cranks. It is just jaw droppingly stupid.
But anyway, I know we all know this. But it helps to let this stuff out lol. I really did myself a favour when I chose to stop reading anything this guy put out you feel way better
Peterson is wrong for sure. But he's right about renewables at a superficial level. The world will not be producing 19 terawatts of energy out of renewables. In ways I find the left and the libs are far too credulous about what can be done to fix the climate as it were. Read any study from the 70s. The were calling for immediate emission reductions. The exact opposite happened with a doubling of emissions. The c02 dumped into the atmosphere in the last 20 years will do it's work in the next 20 years. In short the highest emissions in history haven't even kicked in yet. There is hardly any recognition of this. And absolutely nothing is being done or will be done about it. Peterson cant see this even if it came up and it kicked him in the balls. He's too busy wallowing in his own magisterial self importance to get it. I found on the otherhand that girls question utterly cringe worthy. A question so fcking wet you could shoot snipe off it .The problem is: illusory panaceas are distracting us from a reality that I happen to think has largely slipped out of our control. In a sense I dont think humans can really steer civilisation it could very well the other way around.
I know right. It’s flat out, pure and simple anti-intellectualism on his part. Let’s not sugarcoat it, Jordan Peterson isn’t stupid (although he isn’t amazingly smart either). He is just straight up lying. He knows he is intellectually dishonest. He knows he invents «facts» regularly. He just thinks he is lying for the greater good - which to him is a trasitionalist, fascist world order.
@axileus9327
Explain his focus on Lomborg and Lindzen ? Lomborg a known fraud.
Peterson has a sold out show tonight a the providence performing arts center tonight. He's insufferable.
he is actually insufferable
You just don't understand the depth of analysis...even though I don't understand any of it(because it's nonsense).
JP fans are hilarious
He predates vulnerable men.
@@Samsgarden
eh, im sure there are loads of them who are genuinely helped by his stuff. Problem is that it comes with a load of other baggage
What's so insufferable about telling young men to straighten out their lives? Or that the malevolance in your heart reaches all the way down to hell?
As a psychologist, I suppose I do get his preference for testable interventions. If you're considering multiple approaches to a problem, obviously it's nice to know the efficacy of each possible path.
While that's great and all in clinical psychology, where you can set up a randomized controlled trial, planets and climates indeed don't really lend themselves to that sort of methodology.
He then gets really sceptical with "How are you going to solve problems if you cannot measure the consequences of your actions".
Ok, so what? Does he really think that "If you cannot accurately predict the future, you might as well sit back and hope for the best, or that the light will eventually dawn upon you"? Intuitively, is it really that unreasonable to, if you have a pretty good grasp of the mechanism behind your problem, just try to intervene on the level of that mechanism?
I get the sense that Peterson either doesn't (care to) understand the methodology behind climate science, or that he discounts it somehow, perhaps because it doesn't seem to fit with what he considers a sound method for testing interventions.
At any rate, I'd have hoped that doing a PhD would give someone a little more appreciation for the depth and nuance behind the methods and produced knowledge of any particular discipline. Presumably, seeing the amount there is to learn about the foundations of your own field, might lead you to believe that other fields have similar depth and cannot be dismissed just because it isn't intuitive to you how the conclusions are supported.
Thank god for a rational argument. Peterson is a moron.
Actualy it simpler than that, he is getting a pay cheque from the daily wire who are known for their climate change denialism because they got their money from some fracking billionaires.
I think there's nobody else in the public sphere that is so completely _insane_ as Jordan Peterson. What he says seems to some people intellectual because they don't understand it but the real reason they don't understand it is because it's total gibberish.
peterson claims the hierarchies of capitalism are based on competence.
he is "demonstrably" WRONG.
the hierarchies of capitalism are /\ pyramid shaped, while every natural hierarchy of competence is a bell curve.
/\ pyramid hierarchies are artificial and integral to capitalism/profit, there has to be a very large base in a capitalist hierarchy in order for profit to be generated, profit is not possible in a natural bell curve hierarchy.
Dunning-Kruger is strong with this one. He was one of a number of people on a very small department of a large body and he thinks he knows more than the thousands of scientists whose expertise is exact to the topic.
"What do you mean by FALSE? What do you mean by PROPHET?" Yordan Yeeterson
everything peterson says is a presupposition that HE is the most intelligent experienced man on the planet, he is technically insane.
bull SHIP- he is honest and to the point - yeah like you tries to use $100 words too much but spot on
He's only good at making shallow platitudes sound like big important ideas. And transphobia.
'false prophet' is a tautology.
I think a rather reasonable point gets totally lost in all the talk. nuclear energy is expensive for silly reasons, the silly reasons are based on good reasons like safety, colliding with politics and unpredictability for the industry, nuclear plans can be made more or less idiot proof (relatively speaking), the safety issues are far from the level of concern the anti nuclear activists associate with it. and shutting down nuclear power in favor of coal is silly, the cost level can be brought down by a lot at scale and also when industry can actually use data and tests from old projects to build new reactors. nuclear energy is a nice and safe way to produce power, and Germany shutting down their was kind of silly in my opinion, just the flip flopping alone makes nuclear power way more expensive than it really is. so all in all he is right about nuclear power, but that is a kind of small side point to the discussion anyway. it is good to worry about the politics of climate action, but that doesn't mean climate action is a bad thing :P, it is just difficult to achieve what we need to without causing political backlash, that is a real problem but i think it is kind of irresponsible to just assume the best thing to do is to ignore it, we have no idea what a +4C world looks like politically, nor how many tipping points we reach along the way, it is dangerous to ignore it. the sober assessment is to consider the political issues as adding to the climate issues, making the whole situation harder to handle, not to then shrug the climate issues of as somehow already unsolvable.
😂😂 Jordan Peterson is like the situation in the Congo .. dude that analogy made me cry laughing
It is a sad commentary on Academia that Oxford invites Peterson. Even if special interest is responsible, it remains an embarrassment to higher learning to invite this sophist.
In Kermit we trust
Apparently a bunch of Peterson's OG fans left him because they're 35 now and still don't have a girlfriend
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JBP is doing the whole christian preaching schtick now with the light purple background and everything. Walking up and down the stage rambling away and waving his hands all over the place. He looks totally mad. But its not surprising at all that that is the succession of his grifting scheme, since he lost his psychologist licence.
Hitler also claimed he was christian to get a massive following. When people love traditions of men these things happen
Peterson is not an intellectual.
Intellectuals don’t think that the only way you can give up smoking is by praying Jesus or using the supernatural.
Or thinks that wind energy is useless because the sun goes down at night.
Peterson, a clown on tour finding his narcissistic space.
He is an occultist following in the steps of Timothy Leary, an ex harvard professor and using christianity as a guise for the average person who doesnt know occultism. He views his own consciousness as god. This can be found from his writings.
@@sarahs8371 Turn on, tune in, drop out.
Oooh. That open was brilliant.
I realise he’s odious but Richard Spencer did a great critique of the Žižek-Peterson debate at the time.
I can see why this youtube channel has only 4k views.
LOL Jordan Peterson= Hedley Lamarr (Blazing Saddles)
Crazy talking crazy about crazy. You know. For the love of sanity.
Have you noticed how the debate on Climate Change is going today? Doesn't seem like its very uniting. So Peterson was right by answering "No".
Jordan Peterson is a bundle of twigs
I thought Peterson had potential in his nascent stage.
Peterson, a clown on tour finding his Narcissistic Space.
That mook again.
He read a lot on topics in some unspecified manner related to climate!
So what? I read 147 academic papers on PTSD and I m no expert on the topic.
BTW: He is not "wrong on climate". He is too intellectually incoherent to merit the label "wrong".
He is an intellectual poser.
This is what is clear..., you know more conformity than you know about Peterson or the climate. You should take his advice and get your life in order, so you won't be taken as a fool, from someone who isn't.
Both Kuba and Ben have as much importance as their numbers of subscribers. The points are so minute and petty. Definition of useless critics.
@axileus9327 you are agreeing with a person who thinks popularity = correct ?
@axileus9327
peterson claims the hierarchies of capitalism are based on competence.
he is "demonstrably" WRONG.
the hierarchies of capitalism are /\ pyramid shaped, while every natural hierarchy of competence is a bell curve.
/\ pyramid hierarchies are artificial and integral to capitalism/profit, there has to be a very large base in a capitalist hierarchy in order for profit to be generated, profit is not possible in a natural bell curve hierarchy.
@@Flux_40 Capitalism is rarely mentioned by Peterson nor is your statement a fact. The comment is so off base if you listened to anything Peterson states. The natural order of Capitalism is described by another law Peterson points to. Are you aware of that? Hierarchies and Capitalism are addressed differently. I can't from your comment believe you ever read or listened to anything on the subject from Peterson.
@@BWreSlippySlope peterson talks about capitalism all the time, and my comment is 100% fact, you just aren't smart enough to understand it.
@@Flux_40 OK Rufus you're the expert though you never listen to him. His talks just can't enter your reality it too filled with preconceived ideas masked by hate. Sad state.
Dr. Peterson is still more enjoyable to watch and listen to than you both. Truly, your sum is not greater than the parts. You're in the larvel stage and I don't see any potential for any metamorphosis.
Sick burn bro
Omg this is the funniest thing ever. You totally destroyed these post modern neomarxists! The prolixity or your argumentative prowess was amazing. The dragon of degenerate liberal chaos has truly been slewen! Have you written any books? Where can I buy them? I'll take 8!
larvel
Peterson is an entertainer, not an academic.
JP simping has never been this sad😂
So dumb
I am 57
Similar age to Peterson
I don't give a fckuk about climate change.
If it is real, I will be dead by then 😅😅
Great attitude. I'm guessing you don't have children and are fun at parties. You should be a life coach.
So, you don’t care about others as an anti-social apathetic nihilist, and think saying that to others is a productive use of your time?
who Hurt you lil Buddy.... 🥺