Thanks Chris. This was really useful. I spent this morning trying to figure out my stainless pile and ended up tossing it all into pressing steel. Its a really frustrating task, but your info is a great help for future sorting.
This video was four years ago and I don't think I ever got around to doing an 'aluminium' video! Maybe I should do an updated series? Thanks for watching 😊👍
Excellent Chris about a really complex subject. The magnetic and nonmagnetic stainless has been a problem for years. Thanks for sharing this important information with the community. Good info for all. 😎😎⛏⛏🔥🔥
Chris ...... thank you again if I had to guess I bet I make 1/3 more and the scrap yard because of you and sale more things then scrap them and that’s 100% more money because I’ve never done that .. we appreciate your channel and your time brother.. THANK YOU CHRIS 👊🏻🙌🏻👍🏻
I sometimes get small pieces of yellow brass which are very slightly magnetic. (It's still yellow when scratched) I usually throw it in with brass. I have wondered if I'm scamming the scrapyard?? I'm assuming that it has a small amount of iron in it.
That's the troubles with alloys CS - it's not just brass or stainless, each piece could be a slightly different alloy containing various metal elements. I'd say your slightly magnetic brass pieces could have a small percentage of nickel in the alloy. I'm sure the yards allow for that and understand that we scrappers aren't qualified metallurgists!
Such a good help Chris! I understand you do not want to check ALL magnetic stainless, but why would you NOT collect magnetic stainless that you know is stainless? Like utensils, kitchen appliance parts and gadgets, medical stuffs, or even stuff that says 'stainless'. Seems like I should have a bucket for magnetic stainless that I do not have to test.
It's a matter of storage and taking separate lots to the scrapyard for me. There's just not enough difference in the price of magnetic stainless to normal steel to make me want to separate it and take it to Melbourne. I have almost a 2 hour drive to my yard! It's certainly not a silly idea to save it separately if you are sure it's stainless!
The yard here has always given me the same price for all stainless regardless of how magnetic, four to five times the price of mixed steel. I'm probably getting cheated a bit, but whatever, it's less sorting and they are probably less picky about questionable pieces this way. I used to only take pieces of stainless that I was 100% sure about, but now I take some that are very magnetic but in all other ways seem to be stainless.
If a heavy magnetic attracts but it slides and doesn't hold firm. I assume this is what your yard classifies as non-magnetic? Or do they require it to be virtually completely non-magnetic?
Another great video. Sorting out stainless alloys can be very difficult even for me. Be careful quoting from Wikipedia when it is all about what is in alloys. In one of my videos I quoted from wikipedia that the alloy that is used to glue rare earth magnets to in hard drives was a high nickel content alloy. One of my viewers said that wikipedia was wrong so I ground the surface with a angle grinder and it rusted very quickly. Nickel alloys do not rust. Also nickel is very weakly magnetic and this piece from the hard drive was strongly magnetic.
I would hold all your 316 until it's recognized by your scrap yard. Don't give your good money away for 304 prices. By the way, stainless 304 will be attracted very slightly to a high powered (neodymium) magnet where's 316 will not have any attraction and may sometimes be marked 316 by any reputable manufacturer. Thanks for the video. Imho
Honestly, this video should be redone because most stainless steel IS slightly magnetic & although it can't be detected magnet in hand, it can be detected with a light magnet on a string. This video ignores pot metal, which is both dense & non magnetic, but not as tough as SS. Austenetic SS is completely non-magnetic, so I was hoping to see examples of that.
Thanks for your input David. For the purposes of a scrapper, SS can definitely be split into magnetic & non-magnetic (yes, even though it is very slightly). That's as complicated as it needs to be! I also ignored zinc and some other less common metals as that just starts to get confusing as a beginner's scrap guide. My yard buys pot metal as cast aluminium by the way. Thanks for watching 😊
Why would your yard pay 4x as much to give u cast Al price for pot metal? Sounds like your pot metal is mixed with Al & yard hasn't caught u yet?@@TheUltimateRecycler
@@DavidGS66 When I sold my last lot of pot metal (which I did have separate to cast ally, the guy at the yard said to throw it in with the ally! Who am I to argue?
@@TheUltimateRecyclerThe yard here pays one or two pennies more for pot metal than mixed steel. If I have something that I'm not sure is pot metal though I just toss it in basic aluminum and nobody has ever complained.
Thanks Chris. This was really useful. I spent this morning trying to figure out my stainless pile and ended up tossing it all into pressing steel. Its a really frustrating task, but your info is a great help for future sorting.
Thanks Gabriel, seems I should have posted this yesterday then! 😉🤣 Pleased you found it useful 👍
Great to see a spark test demonstrated Chris. I'd forgotten all about it.
Thanks Glen - it's probably the quickest and easiest method!
I cant wait for your aluminum video. These are great. Im not a scrapper. I just like metallurgy.
This video was four years ago and I don't think I ever got around to doing an 'aluminium' video! Maybe I should do an updated series? Thanks for watching 😊👍
The most educational video I have seen.Good job making the video.
Thanks Timothy, I appreciate the feedback! 👍😊
This is the most useful Stainless Steel explanation I've found on RUclips. It deserves WAY more views than it's had. Have a Happy New Year 🙂👍
Wow, thanks! That's nice of you to say! Happy new year back! 🍻👍
Bloody great clarification, much appreciated!
Haha, thanks mate - I aim for "bloody great"! 😁😆
@16:31 "nickel silver" is often an alloy of copper, nickel and zinc, but no silver, only a silver color.
Correct Thomas 👍
Excellent Chris about a really complex subject. The magnetic and nonmagnetic stainless has been a problem for years. Thanks for sharing this important information with the community. Good info for all. 😎😎⛏⛏🔥🔥
Many thanks Chuck! 😊👍
Chris ...... thank you again if I had to guess I bet I make 1/3 more and the scrap yard because of you and sale more things then scrap them and that’s 100% more money because I’ve never done that .. we appreciate your channel and your time brother..
THANK YOU CHRIS 👊🏻🙌🏻👍🏻
Thanks Seth, I'm glad the information is helpful! 😊👍
@@TheUltimateRecycler your a great teacher 👊🏻
@@streetcopper1151 Thanks mate - may have missed my calling!! 🤔😜
Thank you for the wisdom
Thanks for watching mate! 😊👍
Very well explained video. Thanks Chris 👍
Thanks SWK, hope you carry a magnet when out street scrapping?
love your videos I seriously learned alot
Thanks for watching and the great feedback 👍😊
The silver plated stuff with the white metal inside, They buy it here as Zinc along with your spoons & forks with white metal inside
My yard buys that as brass 👍😊
I sometimes get small pieces of yellow brass which are very slightly magnetic. (It's still yellow when scratched) I usually throw it in with brass. I have wondered if I'm scamming the scrapyard??
I'm assuming that it has a small amount of iron in it.
Cycle scrapping how you been I have heard from you in a little bit brother I hope all is well 👊🏻
That's the troubles with alloys CS - it's not just brass or stainless, each piece could be a slightly different alloy containing various metal elements. I'd say your slightly magnetic brass pieces could have a small percentage of nickel in the alloy. I'm sure the yards allow for that and understand that we scrappers aren't qualified metallurgists!
Thank you for sharing.
Thanks 👍😊
Very very helpful
Thanks, glad it was! 👍😊
Such a good help Chris! I understand you do not want to check ALL magnetic stainless, but why would you NOT collect magnetic stainless that you know is stainless? Like utensils, kitchen appliance parts and gadgets, medical stuffs, or even stuff that says 'stainless'. Seems like I should have a bucket for magnetic stainless that I do not have to test.
It's a matter of storage and taking separate lots to the scrapyard for me. There's just not enough difference in the price of magnetic stainless to normal steel to make me want to separate it and take it to Melbourne. I have almost a 2 hour drive to my yard! It's certainly not a silly idea to save it separately if you are sure it's stainless!
Thanks. I suspected that I should separate my stainless by magnetic.
Dishwasher housings make nice accumulation bins in my processed material fence.
They certainly do WF - I also use clothes dryer housings for my clean pressing steel! 👍😊
Are most outdoor barbecue stainless ovens the higher price? How about refrigerator stainless?
Not usually! Often cheaper brands use cheaper material, so check the stainless with a magnet. Thanks for watching 😊👍
The yard here has always given me the same price for all stainless regardless of how magnetic, four to five times the price of mixed steel. I'm probably getting cheated a bit, but whatever, it's less sorting and they are probably less picky about questionable pieces this way. I used to only take pieces of stainless that I was 100% sure about, but now I take some that are very magnetic but in all other ways seem to be stainless.
I think it's worth a slightly lower price when you don't have to be so accurate with your sorting! Thanks for watching 👍😊
My local scrap yard only pays for non magnetic. The magnetic goes out in the sheet iron pile.
Pretty much the same here Keith! 👍
If a heavy magnetic attracts but it slides and doesn't hold firm. I assume this is what your yard classifies as non-magnetic? Or do they require it to be virtually completely non-magnetic?
is there any wire strip mach that does 18g?
I guess there would be shay. I don't use a wire stripper machine..
Another great video. Sorting out stainless alloys can be very difficult even for me. Be careful quoting from Wikipedia when it is all about what is in alloys. In one of my videos I quoted from wikipedia that the alloy that is used to glue rare earth magnets to in hard drives was a high nickel content alloy. One of my viewers said that wikipedia was wrong so I ground the surface with a angle grinder and it rusted very quickly. Nickel alloys do not rust. Also nickel is very weakly magnetic and this piece from the hard drive was strongly magnetic.
Thanks - yeah good point on wikipedia! Who would have thought that something on the internet could be factually incorrect! 🤣🤣
Nickel alloy catches magnet 🧲 strongly
There are 4 groups Austenitic ,Ferritic Martensitic and Duplex
Thanks for that😊👍 Probably more detail than most scrappers require!
I have stainless wedding band that says stainless can what does it mean
There are many grades of stainless steel - from a scrapping perspective, I only save the non-magnetic stuff.
I would hold all your 316 until it's recognized by your scrap yard. Don't give your good money away for 304 prices. By the way, stainless 304 will be attracted very slightly to a high powered (neodymium) magnet where's 316 will not have any attraction and may sometimes be marked 316 by any reputable manufacturer. Thanks for the video.
Imho
Thanks Paul, that's good information! I don't have room anymore to store any scrap for long unfortunately!
202ss pipe cost
Not sure what you mean by this??
316 ss scrap
Yep, and the price is pretty good at the moment! 👍😊
Here in America it's not worth the trouble. As a curbside scrapper Don't get enough to sit on.
Yeah, certainly with low quantities, it's not really worth the hassle! Thanks for watching Tommy 👍
So what you’re saying is I need to figure out a way to demagnetize magnetic stainless steel lol
Now that would be a great discovery! 👍😊
Krog? Is that you?
Sorry mate - you must have the wrong number! 😆
Honestly, this video should be redone because most stainless steel IS slightly magnetic & although it can't be detected magnet in hand, it can be detected with a light magnet on a string. This video ignores pot metal, which is both dense & non magnetic, but not as tough as SS. Austenetic SS is completely non-magnetic, so I was hoping to see examples of that.
Thanks for your input David. For the purposes of a scrapper, SS can definitely be split into magnetic & non-magnetic (yes, even though it is very slightly). That's as complicated as it needs to be! I also ignored zinc and some other less common metals as that just starts to get confusing as a beginner's scrap guide. My yard buys pot metal as cast aluminium by the way. Thanks for watching 😊
Why would your yard pay 4x as much to give u cast Al price for pot metal? Sounds like your pot metal is mixed with Al & yard hasn't caught u yet?@@TheUltimateRecycler
@@DavidGS66 When I sold my last lot of pot metal (which I did have separate to cast ally, the guy at the yard said to throw it in with the ally! Who am I to argue?
@@TheUltimateRecyclerThe yard here pays one or two pennies more for pot metal than mixed steel. If I have something that I'm not sure is pot metal though I just toss it in basic aluminum and nobody has ever complained.
gedex47
30 cents per kilo? What a rip-off, I’m getting 1 euro per kilo😂 (the equivalent of 1.20USD/kg)
Prices have gone up quite a lot here since I made this video. Are you getting that price for magnetic stainless Vine Cat?
@@TheUltimateRecycler At my scrapyard we have 304, both magnetic and non-magnetic for the same price
@@vinecat8451 Lucky you!
This was too much 😢
I'm sorry you were overloaded!