One fact I noticed too is that if you want to use/need the cargo space in the back with the third row folded, then you're limited to only four people with the 7 seater. The captain chairs are nice but you are limited to four with the third folded down if you need the full cargo.
I think with the 7 passenger version, there's an added bonus in that if you only have 1 adult or 1 passenger in the 3rd row, they can sit in the middle seat and have the most amount of legroom than anyone else!
Jesus said it's easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God.You must get to know the real God Jesus Christ. Do you believe in God,? In the last day Jesus would resurrect everyone who ever lived including the good and the bad, and the good would go to heaven while the bad would perish and be tormented in Hell for all eternity, there is no reincarnating into another species, that is a lie, you only have this life to get right with God. today I want to share with you the Gospel of God Jesus Christ who is the only God who came in the flesh and lived among us about 2000 years ago and he was crucified and died for our sins, all men have sinned against God and hence we live in a world full of trouble because the first people named Adam and Eve ate from the tree which God commanded them not to eat from, hence because of their disobedience, Adam and Even were cast out of Paradise. But God in his love and mercy made a way for us to get back into this paradise so that we can once again live with him for eternity in paradise where we never grow old or die and where there is no pain or suffering for all eternity. Today you can take the first step in this journey by believing in God Jesus Christ and accepting him as God(as he was not just a good teacher) and by repenting of your sins. In the last day Jesus would resurrect everyone who ever lived including the good and the bad and the good would go to heaven while the bad would perish and be tormented in Hell for all eternity, there is no reincarnating into another species, that is a lie, you only have this life to get right with God. Therefore we must repent of our sins today and realize that we are not Gods, neither are we divine, only God is divine. Jesus is God and he taught us how to live when he came to Earth , there are 2 destinations either Heaven or Eternal hell fire, those believe in Jesus Christ and who live according to Jesus Christ would go to Heaven but those wicked people who reject him and choose their own paths would be cast into the lake of fire where they shall be tormented for all eternity, this is just the reality, nonetheless it is not fear that cause me to live for God but rather it is my love for him in that he is a merciful and loving God. Focus on the things of God instead of the things of this world as the things of this world are only temporary but the things of God are eternal. If you would like to know more about this I encourage you to study the ESV and KJV Bible as there is vital knowledge that you must have in there as it explains Gods plan for Humanity and what we must do to please him. Do not delay, tomorrow is not promised.Jesus bless you
Hey, fellow Colorado Subaru lover here. I can suggest a small benefit of 8 seater over 7, if u r an avid outdoor person (which I am). I heard the captain's chairs wouldn't fold flat. That could mean that you won't be able to put all seats flat and have a comfortable sleep while car camping (of course with the help of sturdy base layer/bed). I am totally aware that it is a small silly item. But, FWIW 😃
A very practical comment. My wife and I regularly sleep in the back of my 2004 4Runner when primitive camping for only one or two nights. This is something I want to continue doing when I purchase a new vehicle.
I was going to mention that too. Not only for sleeping but also for putting sheets of plywood etc., the 8 seater would be better because they can lay flat.
It’s much easier to just push the button on the 2nd row seat and slide the seat forward, just go straight to the 3rd row, no need to pass through in the middle of the 2nd row, middle pass through is only for small children, for adults, you have to bow your body to get through, I really don’t see the advantage of captain’s chair.
@@blackwhirlwind1245 In addition, if you have child seats in the captains chairs you aren't going to be getting past them to the center aisle anyway. With the 8 seater you have way more configuration options for kids in child seats and could even leave one of the 2nd row end seats open, making it was easier to enter the 3rd row.
The new FA motor has more hp and torque, much fuel efficient than the 3.6, and it's going to be the base block for next gen STI, what makes you prefer the old one?
Interesting video but atfor over 12 minutes long i would think you could also compare cargo room and configuration when the second row/chairs are folded flat. The video could have been 5 minutes long and offered the same information.
Also with the captain chairs the kids can have their own space and if u have a new baby and mommy needs to be back there it easier with the captain chairs she or daddy can take care of both kids.
Our new Ascent has a serious technical problem. The check engine light came on and all the safety features shut down. Once at 400 miles and now at 1,000 miles. Dealer service had to call in the Factory Tech. They think it might be a bad wire and are ordering a "bulkhead wiring harness". Sounds like a pretty serious issue. 2 weeks in the shop.
Regarding storage, some might prefer the 8 passenger so there won't be a hole in the second row for things to fall through. Or some might actually prefer the hole between the two captain's chairs to get a couple extra cubic feet to throw stuff. I often transport boxes so I would prefer the 8 passenger so I don't have to retrieve boxes from between the seats. Also I prefer the flat loading floor. Is the cargo area technically the same for both?
I noticed you didn't try to use the sliding thigh support of the front seats...it slides forward to give you more thigh support..Americans are generally larger and Subaru seats have traditionally been to short
Not being able to get a Touring with 8 passenger is a deal breaker for me. I like the Java leather and ventilated seats but can't have them on the Limited, also the Smart rear view camera and 180 front camera isn't available in the 8 seater. That is too much safety for 8 people I guess.
Jorge Ramirez I think all automakers make the top trim level only come with 2nd row captain’s chairs, like Honda and Toyota, Subaru isn’t the only one doing this. I agree with you, I personally don’t think captain’s chairs are upgrade to the standard bench seat configuration. Most automakers put ventilated seats on the top trim level, so it’s hard to get 3 row SUVs with bench seat and ventilated front seats.
Are the captain chairs removable? I had a 1997 Odyssey (when it was still small with 4 regular doors) and we sometimes took out one of the second row seats entirely to make more cargo or golden retriever space. It was just a matter of releasing a couple of latches and lifting it out, not disassembling anything.
Look at the highlander. A nice vehicle with a 6. A real engine. Which you deserve when you pay that kind of money. It's the heart of the car Yes you really need an engine.
Jesus said it's easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God.You must get to know the real God Jesus Christ. Do you believe in God,? In the last day Jesus would resurrect everyone who ever lived including the good and the bad, and the good would go to heaven while the bad would perish and be tormented in Hell for all eternity, there is no reincarnating into another species, that is a lie, you only have this life to get right with God. today I want to share with you the Gospel of God Jesus Christ who is the only God who came in the flesh and lived among us about 2000 years ago and he was crucified and died for our sins, all men have sinned against God and hence we live in a world full of trouble because the first people named Adam and Eve ate from the tree which God commanded them not to eat from, hence because of their disobedience, Adam and Even were cast out of Paradise. But God in his love and mercy made a way for us to get back into this paradise so that we can once again live with him for eternity in paradise where we never grow old or die and where there is no pain or suffering for all eternity. Today you can take the first step in this journey by believing in God Jesus Christ and accepting him as God(as he was not just a good teacher) and by repenting of your sins. In the last day Jesus would resurrect everyone who ever lived including the good and the bad and the good would go to heaven while the bad would perish and be tormented in Hell for all eternity, there is no reincarnating into another species, that is a lie, you only have this life to get right with God. Therefore we must repent of our sins today and realize that we are not Gods, neither are we divine, only God is divine. Jesus is God and he taught us how to live when he came to Earth , there are 2 destinations either Heaven or Eternal hell fire, those believe in Jesus Christ and who live according to Jesus Christ would go to Heaven but those wicked people who reject him and choose their own paths would be cast into the lake of fire where they shall be tormented for all eternity, this is just the reality, nonetheless it is not fear that cause me to live for God but rather it is my love for him in that he is a merciful and loving God. Focus on the things of God instead of the things of this world as the things of this world are only temporary but the things of God are eternal. If you would like to know more about this I encourage you to study the ESV and KJV Bible as there is vital knowledge that you must have in there as it explains Gods plan for Humanity and what we must do to please him. Do not delay, tomorrow is not promised.Jesus bless you
How is the side to side room across that second row bench? Can the three adults that cannot be accommodated in the third row find refuge in the second? And another question, does the bench seat fold down completely? Not talking about any flatter than the captains chairs, as I know they don't fold completely flat, but I mean flat-ish?
I'm not convinced the rear seats(I have sat in both Outback and Ascent) whether they are bench or captains are as comfy as a limited or touring Outback seats. Also, in premium grade the ivory plastic piece that runs below the dash is hideous. cheap to the look and feel. Pleather in limited and touring is much more appealing
Both captains chairs have the latch system and if you are planning on doing this I would get the seven passenger. You can easily walk in between the two seats and they even have handles there for you to make it even easier.
WACK..as the middle seat back springs forward.."Oh..that was aggressive!!"..bahahahaha..thanks for the morning laugh. Great video. We are in the process of buying a Limited, if we can find one. They are going quick.
Alice Restivo this can probably be adjusted. I have a ‘16 crosstrek that has adjustable headrests, I like mine far back and my husband likes his tilted so its handy.
Would anyone know if I'm able to get a second row bench from Subaru and replace the captian chairs? I'm looking to do that I just don't know if the screw dimensions would match
Subaru has great dealerships and sales people.....what they need is a vehicle for families. what if you have 3 kids in car seats? 3 mini vans are available out of all the suv's and trucks that's it if you have little kids. AND the moonroofs have huge potential for not being safe in car accident they are not made of same glass as windshield but of glass like windows. and look at the size of that moonroof. AND you can't get premium choices in any vehicle in any company without moonroof. $35,000 and up for a vehicle and you can't choose the features your family needs. TIME for a real company to make a real family vehicle. I nominate Subaru....please do it fast
The Ascent with the panoramic roof has to support the whole weight of the vehicle if it rolls over. That’s a federal requirement and they just don’t shatter if the can ends up on its roof.
I have ordered the Touring so it will have the seven seats. I plan on buying a bolster made to put in front of the seat to fill in that area so my dogs can lay down in the captains chairs. They are about $70 each.
That 3rd row legroom is horrible! Can't wait til kia telluride and hyundai palisade come out as they are 4 inches wider and offer a lot more features for the same price!
I wish you would have shown the difference between the two configurations laying down when all seats are stowed flat. Otherwise very helpful!
One fact I noticed too is that if you want to use/need the cargo space in the back with the third row folded, then you're limited to only four people with the 7 seater. The captain chairs are nice but you are limited to four with the third folded down if you need the full cargo.
I guess you got to have someone sit on the floor 🤣
I think with the 7 passenger version, there's an added bonus in that if you only have 1 adult or 1 passenger in the 3rd row, they can sit in the middle seat and have the most amount of legroom than anyone else!
Jesus said it's easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God.You must get to know the real God Jesus Christ. Do you believe in God,? In the last day Jesus would resurrect everyone who ever lived including the good and the bad, and the good would go to heaven while the bad would perish and be tormented in Hell for all eternity, there is no reincarnating into another species, that is a lie, you only have this life to get right with God. today I want to share with you the Gospel of God Jesus Christ who is the only God who came in the flesh and lived among us about 2000 years ago and he was crucified and died for our sins, all men have sinned against God and hence we live in a world full of trouble because the first people named Adam and Eve ate from the tree which God commanded them not to eat from, hence because of their disobedience, Adam and Even were cast out of Paradise. But God in his love and mercy made a way for us to get back into this paradise so that we can once again live with him for eternity in paradise where we never grow old or die and where there is no pain or suffering for all eternity. Today you can take the first step in this journey by believing in God Jesus Christ and accepting him as God(as he was not just a good teacher) and by repenting of your sins. In the last day Jesus would resurrect everyone who ever lived including the good and the bad and the good would go to heaven while the bad would perish and be tormented in Hell for all eternity, there is no reincarnating into another species, that is a lie, you only have this life to get right with God. Therefore we must repent of our sins today and realize that we are not Gods, neither are we divine, only God is divine. Jesus is God and he taught us how to live when he came to Earth , there are 2 destinations either Heaven or Eternal hell fire, those believe in Jesus Christ and who live according to Jesus Christ would go to Heaven but those wicked people who reject him and choose their own paths would be cast into the lake of fire where they shall be tormented for all eternity, this is just the reality, nonetheless it is not fear that cause me to live for God but rather it is my love for him in that he is a merciful and loving God. Focus on the things of God instead of the things of this world as the things of this world are only temporary but the things of God are eternal. If you would like to know more about this I encourage you to study the ESV and KJV Bible as there is vital knowledge that you must have in there as it explains Gods plan for Humanity and what we must do to please him. Do not delay, tomorrow is not promised.Jesus bless you
I can’t believe how good the production quality, host quality, and honesty is from a dealership channel. Great video!
Nice video, if you're already doing it, why not fold all the seats down and compare too?
extremely helpful video as i was pondering the difference, and why the 8 passenger was cheaper. from a local!
Hey, fellow Colorado Subaru lover here.
I can suggest a small benefit of 8 seater over 7, if u r an avid outdoor person (which I am). I heard the captain's chairs wouldn't fold flat. That could mean that you won't be able to put all seats flat and have a comfortable sleep while car camping (of course with the help of sturdy base layer/bed). I am totally aware that it is a small silly item. But, FWIW 😃
Midhun Mohan not small or silly at all -- very helpful point for me. Thanks!
A very practical comment. My wife and I regularly sleep in the back of my 2004 4Runner when primitive camping for only one or two nights. This is something I want to continue doing when I purchase a new vehicle.
My Mitsubishi Montero did this and car camping was amazing
Thanks.
I may go back to the dealer and look at an 8pax now. Not folding flat was a deal breaker
I was going to mention that too. Not only for sleeping but also for putting sheets of plywood etc., the 8 seater would be better because they can lay flat.
I have four kids eight and under and have an odyssey but I’d like to try this vehicle out
Very useful real world review of the seating. Thanks.
If you have 3 kids you need the 8 because at some point they will all want to bring a friend along somewhere.
The 7 passenger is way better. Due to the pass through..it's like a minivan in an SUV form
It’s much easier to just push the button on the 2nd row seat and slide the seat forward, just go straight to the 3rd row, no need to pass through in the middle of the 2nd row, middle pass through is only for small children, for adults, you have to bow your body to get through, I really don’t see the advantage of captain’s chair.
@@blackwhirlwind1245 In addition, if you have child seats in the captains chairs you aren't going to be getting past them to the center aisle anyway. With the 8 seater you have way more configuration options for kids in child seats and could even leave one of the 2nd row end seats open, making it was easier to enter the 3rd row.
When they add a 3.6R version I will consider it.Looks good, rides well.
The new FA motor has more hp and torque, much fuel efficient than the 3.6, and it's going to be the base block for next gen STI, what makes you prefer the old one?
Libss Try perhaps he thinks naturally aspirated engine is generally more reliable than turbo engine, and he probably prefer 6 cylinder.
Interesting video but atfor over 12 minutes long i would think you could also compare cargo room and configuration when the second row/chairs are folded flat. The video could have been 5 minutes long and offered the same information.
Also with the captain chairs the kids can have their own space and if u have a new baby and mommy needs to be back there it easier with the captain chairs she or daddy can take care of both kids.
Our new Ascent has a serious technical problem. The check engine light came on and all the safety features shut down. Once at 400 miles and now at 1,000 miles. Dealer service had to call in the Factory Tech. They think it might be a bad wire and are ordering a "bulkhead wiring harness". Sounds like a pretty serious issue. 2 weeks in the shop.
ToyCarCollector.com either you are lying or the dealer is lying. Pretty sure there’s a ECM reprogram for that issue.
Does the bench seat fold flatter than the captains chairs?
Great presentation except for the irritating “you guys” “you guys” peppered throughout.
Thank you for the info. We do appreciate.
Regarding storage, some might prefer the 8 passenger so there won't be a hole in the second row for things to fall through. Or some might actually prefer the hole between the two captain's chairs to get a couple extra cubic feet to throw stuff. I often transport boxes so I would prefer the 8 passenger so I don't have to retrieve boxes from between the seats. Also I prefer the flat loading floor. Is the cargo area technically the same for both?
I noticed you didn't try to use the sliding thigh support of the front seats...it slides forward to give you more thigh support..Americans are generally larger and Subaru seats have traditionally been to short
Not being able to get a Touring with 8 passenger is a deal breaker for me. I like the Java leather and ventilated seats but can't have them on the Limited, also the Smart rear view camera and 180 front camera isn't available in the 8 seater. That is too much safety for 8 people I guess.
Jorge Ramirez I think all automakers make the top trim level only come with 2nd row captain’s chairs, like Honda and Toyota, Subaru isn’t the only one doing this. I agree with you, I personally don’t think captain’s chairs are upgrade to the standard bench seat configuration. Most automakers put ventilated seats on the top trim level, so it’s hard to get 3 row SUVs with bench seat and ventilated front seats.
Are the captain chairs removable? I had a 1997 Odyssey (when it was still small with 4 regular doors) and we sometimes took out one of the second row seats entirely to make more cargo or golden retriever space. It was just a matter of releasing a couple of latches and lifting it out, not disassembling anything.
Look at the highlander. A nice vehicle with a 6. A real engine. Which you deserve when you pay that kind of money. It's the heart of the car Yes you really need an engine.
please advice between Subaru Outback 2018 and Subaru Ascent 2019,interms of fuel consumption stability control etc
I'd like a six with turbo, please. No CVT, thanks. Have the WRX STI crew fix the suspension.
Hint - don't wear cap during the headroom explanation.
8 seater
how about with the seats all down for cargo in the 7 and 8 version.
Jesus said it's easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God.You must get to know the real God Jesus Christ. Do you believe in God,? In the last day Jesus would resurrect everyone who ever lived including the good and the bad, and the good would go to heaven while the bad would perish and be tormented in Hell for all eternity, there is no reincarnating into another species, that is a lie, you only have this life to get right with God. today I want to share with you the Gospel of God Jesus Christ who is the only God who came in the flesh and lived among us about 2000 years ago and he was crucified and died for our sins, all men have sinned against God and hence we live in a world full of trouble because the first people named Adam and Eve ate from the tree which God commanded them not to eat from, hence because of their disobedience, Adam and Even were cast out of Paradise. But God in his love and mercy made a way for us to get back into this paradise so that we can once again live with him for eternity in paradise where we never grow old or die and where there is no pain or suffering for all eternity. Today you can take the first step in this journey by believing in God Jesus Christ and accepting him as God(as he was not just a good teacher) and by repenting of your sins. In the last day Jesus would resurrect everyone who ever lived including the good and the bad and the good would go to heaven while the bad would perish and be tormented in Hell for all eternity, there is no reincarnating into another species, that is a lie, you only have this life to get right with God. Therefore we must repent of our sins today and realize that we are not Gods, neither are we divine, only God is divine. Jesus is God and he taught us how to live when he came to Earth , there are 2 destinations either Heaven or Eternal hell fire, those believe in Jesus Christ and who live according to Jesus Christ would go to Heaven but those wicked people who reject him and choose their own paths would be cast into the lake of fire where they shall be tormented for all eternity, this is just the reality, nonetheless it is not fear that cause me to live for God but rather it is my love for him in that he is a merciful and loving God. Focus on the things of God instead of the things of this world as the things of this world are only temporary but the things of God are eternal. If you would like to know more about this I encourage you to study the ESV and KJV Bible as there is vital knowledge that you must have in there as it explains Gods plan for Humanity and what we must do to please him. Do not delay, tomorrow is not promised.Jesus bless you
Perry Froze so your saying you want to see a video with the seats down?
How is the side to side room across that second row bench? Can the three adults that cannot be accommodated in the third row find refuge in the second? And another question, does the bench seat fold down completely? Not talking about any flatter than the captains chairs, as I know they don't fold completely flat, but I mean flat-ish?
Do either of the 7 or 8 seats fold flat (carrying plywood, sleeping, etc.)? Why wouldn't you show the folding feature with both choices in the video?
Take a shot every time he says the word comfortable
I’m drunk from all the times he said “you guys”
Is it possible to switch seats from a bench to the captains? Is the rail arrangement the same?
I'm not convinced the rear seats(I have sat in both Outback and Ascent) whether they are bench or captains are as comfy as a limited or touring Outback seats. Also, in premium grade the ivory plastic piece that runs below the dash is hideous. cheap to the look and feel. Pleather in limited and touring is much more appealing
I agree with the cheap plastic piece. I put my hand under it and felt a rough edge and was able to move it a bit....not what I expected.
Can I but freezer in the middle
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How much space I have ?
Ask bing chat
How you gonna compare these two if you don't even show the cargo room and fold downs?
I have two labs would the 8 passengers be enough room for them. each getting their own row and seat belted in?
Great comparison. How about with a child carseat in the captain's chair? Would that work well?
Would like to see this as well. Also, entering/exiting the third row with it still installed.
Both captains chairs have the latch system and if you are planning on doing this I would get the seven passenger. You can easily walk in between the two seats and they even have handles there for you to make it even easier.
Groove Subaru thanks Brendan.
What does it look like with everything folded down, 3rd row and the captains chairs?
SUBARU, please, FORESTER 2019 TURBO.......please, please
I hope they would stick it with the same engine this has! :)
WACK..as the middle seat back springs forward.."Oh..that was aggressive!!"..bahahahaha..thanks for the morning laugh. Great video. We are in the process of buying a Limited, if we can find one. They are going quick.
Can you please compare with the Honda Pilot
The driver side seat head rest does not look comfortable as it looks to tilted forward
Alice Restivo this can probably be adjusted. I have a ‘16 crosstrek that has adjustable headrests, I like mine far back and my husband likes his tilted so its handy.
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Would anyone know if I'm able to get a second row bench from Subaru and replace the captian chairs? I'm looking to do that I just don't know if the screw dimensions would match
Sorry but Consumer Reports says to AVOID the UNRELIABLE Ascent.
This still remains the same for the 2023 model
how is this only a 4 cylinder? imagine with full family and cargo.
It's turbo... more torque than a V6 and better than the competition.
Got more power than my 3.7L suv.
premium gas only though.... that may hurt in a few years.
Wrong, the Ascent does not require Premium fuel like other Turbo models. The Turbo was designed to use with normal gasoline for the Ascent.
I would buy one tomorrow if it had a 6 300 hp option. Weighs toooo much for a 4
PBS Kids right now.
Subaru has great dealerships and sales people.....what they need is a vehicle for families. what if you have 3 kids in car seats? 3 mini vans are available out of all the suv's and trucks that's it if you have little kids. AND the moonroofs have huge potential for not being safe in car accident they are not made of same glass as windshield but of glass like windows. and look at the size of that moonroof. AND you can't get premium choices in any vehicle in any company without moonroof. $35,000 and up for a vehicle and you can't choose the features your family needs. TIME for a real company to make a real family vehicle. I nominate Subaru....please do it fast
You can get the limited model without the panoramic sunroof and easily put 3 car seats in a 7 seater
The Ascent with the panoramic roof has to support the whole weight of the vehicle if it rolls over. That’s a federal requirement and they just don’t shatter if the can ends up on its roof.
@@johnjames7712 I'd still be more comfortable knowing I don't have that much glass over my head, feds notwithstanding.
What if you have a large dog? I'd think a bench seat might work better, but not sure.
Probably yes, if you are having him sit in the seat. Otherwise you could fold the third row down and just put him/her in the back.
I have ordered the Touring so it will have the seven seats. I plan on buying a bolster made to put in front of the seat to fill in that area so my dogs can lay down in the captains chairs. They are about $70 each.
The bolster for the dogs is in the Orvis catalogue. Called a Solid Foam microfiber back seat extender
Cool, thanks for that info.
You need a 6 cylinder 300 hp engine to move that weight vehicle a four cylinder engine 2.4 engine is a joke. My vw has a 2.0 and weighs lots less
That 3rd row legroom is horrible! Can't wait til kia telluride and hyundai palisade come out as they are 4 inches wider and offer a lot more features for the same price!
lol @ cloth seats