Everybody knows you’re supposed to rev that engine into the red zone as soon as it starts while the guy outside sprays starting fluid and brake cleaner directly down its throat hole.
In case no one has mentioned, the rapid clicking or buzzing heard for a few moments after the start was the oil filter by-pass opening and closing. Once the cold thickened oil overcomes the filter media resistance the noise stops.
@Andrew and diesels struggle the same way in that regard, as he said in the video. Old diesels and cold weather do not match, the only viable option for extreme cold is gas right now.
@@loganhyler9588 A complete fallacy. Diesels don’t struggle any more than anything else does when it’s super cold. -30 last week and I just then had my first gel up and I’ve been driving nothing but my two Cummins trucks since 2002.
You do not have to select high idle or turn on the exhaust brake, the truck will do everything itself. At 170°F the exhaust brake will come off and at 180°F the idle will go to normal unless of course you hit the brake first.
@@rollingacresfarmstead206 Yes! I usually leave mine plugged in and if the engine is not stone cold it will idle at low RPM for a minute then step up.... If its stupid cold it will fire up then go to fast idle almost immediately, grid heater will be on steady for a bit as well
Kinda dumb... Leave the vehicle in that weather 4 days straight without starting, then try it. You'd get NADA. Gas would start right up. Most people at my buddies snowmobiling camp goes with gas for this reason.
yeah, i left my diesel car 1 week in sub freezing temperatures without winter diesel fuel in the tank (because i filled up 1 month before), at first attempt it shut down after few seconds, then at the second attempt stayed on, maybe diesel fuel turned thicker and fuel pressure wasnt enought, who knows.
We’ve been -40 to -60 here in Interior Alaska for the past 5 days. That is ambient temps, not windchill. Windchill is irrelevant to vehicles it only applies to people. I would love to be at -3F but I realize its all relative , if you’re use to 30-50F above then -3F is a shock to the system. Cheers from North Pole, Alaska! 🎅🏻🎄☃️🇺🇸
You should head up to Alberta Canada right now. My sister sent me a snapshot of their weather yesterday, and it was -41 Celsius without the wind chill , that's -41.8 Fahrenheit. Try a cold start in that!
... am in Alberta. My area had -44C (-47F) with -55C (-67F) wind chill. So I kinda laughed when they showed the -3 Thermometer, LOL. Many of us start our trucks in that weather without using our block heaters. For my Tundra in this weather I run a 900CCA battery with 0W30 synthetic oil. Diesel engines need a little more love than gas, but if you run a 5w40 synthetic in your diesel with amazing battery power, you can still start fine. Plugging in the block heater is best, if you have that option.
Dear Genius, the windchill is a made up mathematical number and does not affect the ambient temperature. If its -20 with -100 windchill....its still only -20 and nothing can get colder then that. Thanks.
I might be mistaken but the truck goes into high idle when started in cold weather. My 21 Cummins takes about a minute or so after it starts to automatically go into high idle. Not sure it’s a good idea to force it into high idle right after you start it when it’s that cold out but man, it’s really cold out there. In NJ it’s 50deg going down to about 20 by 5pm.
I agree. My 2019 goes into high idle mode with the exhaust brake engaged automatically after a few minutes. I think it's allowing some time to get the oil warmed ever so slightly before it revs up.
@@caseypries7559 my old 2004 Ram Cummins goes into high idle as well when it cold. It also surges the idle for a few minutes then levels out the idle. It only does that it cold weather. Around the freezing mark and below. It starts pretty good in cold weather.
Would really like to see some Hummer EV testing in this cold weather (as others have indicated). Especially, leaving it outside over night without it plugged in.
Absolutely true. The blower motor on my Jeep used to squeal like crazy at -40. Blew out a set of Monroe shock absorbers on my old Dakota hitting a frost heave at -45. Radial tires would start developing flat spots in them at those temps. I chalk it all up to the fun of living in Interior Alaska in the winter. :)
having all these gauges and numbers are great but it leads to a lot of anxiety. Old trucks some years ago went through cold climates too but nobody knew about the "real" temp numbers of transmission fluids etc. And they still worked.
I assume your very old lol. Overheating is usually the culprit of when things break so being able to monitor many temps at once is useful and necessary
Wth?? He pushes the start button & literally 3 seconds later he says whoa, this is a long warm up cycle? Lmao.. That was an ideal cold start... it didn't take long & it cranked right over.... many diesels hafta be preheated several times & do extended cranking to fire up.... That Cummins performed perfectly... as usual
-8 F and they are thinking its cold? Move to northern Minnesota, Wisconsin or other northern tier states. -25F every winter... dual batteries and inlet grid and glow plugs. And 5w40 synthetic.
Andre I wish you guys would include how well the heated seats and steering wheel work in some of these videos. I think people would enjoy seeing small things like that.
I have a 2021 3500 longhorn limited and I can tell you the seats/ steering wheel gets hot pretty quick. It was 14 degrees Fahrenheit last night and within ten minutes of driving, I shut seat/ steering wheel heaters off. They almost get too hot.
2021 Laramie 2500 Cummins. The heated seats and wheel work really well. The wheel gets hot quickly and I usually don’t leave it on very long. The heated seats get toasty quickly too. I find that once I’m warm I usually switch them to low or they get too hot.
Wow, I have a brand new truck and it starts when it is cold. How about a 7 year old truck and battery. Not impressive for any new vehicle gas or diesel. BLA BLA BLA nothing to see here.
@@fabulousoffroaddesigns5080 will it make it to my work 62 miles each way at this -15 degrees (-45 windchill) day when roads are pure ice and takes HOURS to drive and running heat? Minnesota
I wonder if the struts on the hood failing had someone to do with the weight of snow on the hood. There was still quite a bit of snow on it. If not im disappointed in RAM quality for allowing that to slip past their quality control cold weather testing! No good! Plus that window motor needs to be of a heavier duty variety!
Andre, you are wrong on all of this info: the Cummins does not have glow plugs, it uses a grid heater. You don't have to use the exhaust brake on cold starts or the high idle feature, it will go into high idle on its own. This isn't a a DMax....
Where I am in Canada right now we've had like like 3 or 4 straight days of -25*Celsius, which is like -13* Fahrenheit. It's so cold in British Columbia that even the rainforests on the coast have dry powder snow right now.
@Hal 1000 I wasn't the one with the childish brag about their vehicle, anyways it would be silly to leave my battery in my electric bike if I am not using it at winter, and no problem starting my 2022 Lariat F150. You probably missed the original joke to about it being a Lada.
I always cringe when I see these cold start videos. It’s so hard on those motors. Just because it can start doesn’t mean you should. Always plug ‘‘em in.
I love the Cummins. What I dont understand is why Ram doesnt heat the bottom mirror on the tow mirrors. They heat the top, but not the bottom and it doesnt make sense to me.
-37C here in Saskatchewan Canada(-31F) my truck is sitting plugged in at work for a few days… will be interesting to see how it starts… 2022 Ram 1500 Rebel with the Hemi
@@Welcometofacsistube It does as far as equipment is warm, that's right. But once the object reach the ambient temperature, there's no heat to lose quickly due to windchill. Wind increase heat loss, that's for sure, but you cant lose heat if there's no heat to lose anymore.
I also now have a 2500 Cummins 2021. And mine started well too here in the Denver metro area, but the heat cycle was only like 20 seconds at most! Interesting to see yours was longer!
Grid heater bolt drops in ur engine and it blows. Mopar junk. Need banks bypass and def delete cause that freezes too. Airbox gets full of snow. Pure utter garbage. Never mopar again
@@waynehicks317 Deleting actually is terrible for the driver's health. Studies show that exhaust emissions are worse inside the cabin than outside directly behind the tailpipe, which is pretty hard to believe at first but it is actually a very repeatable finding. The backseat is typically worse off. Suffice to see, unless you think smoking is a good idea, you should really refrain from deleting the emissions equipment.
@@unconventionalideas5683 I mean with my current local laws, I can't anyways. But is that because some people who delete also want to roll coal? Because my truck would definitely be tuned to where it would not be.
I not familiar with the modern Mopar trannies, but the 727 3-speed that they are based on, the best way to cold start an old Mopar is in neutral. The fluid pumps through the transmission and warms everything up to temp. The modern transmissions may pump oil in park; I dunno.
Yep .. just watch out for the nut falling off of the grid heater inside the engine. Many videos out there of catastrophic engine failure because of the dumb grid heater nut falling off. I just blew a bunch of cash on a Banks intake and replacement grid heater as insurance to never have that happen to me. Merry Christmas!
One of my biggest pet peeves are the people who hold down the push to start button while the vehicle is starting... its push to start for a reason... just push it and let go! Stop holding it down!
My old man drove nothing but diesels his whole life. To prevent gelling he would add a gallon or two of gas at each winter fill up, then top it up with diesel. I have been doing the same thing on my Ford 6.0 and Ram 6.7 and have never had a gelling problem. Merry Christmas!
When I was a kid my dad had a 1989 F-150 and it didn't have gas struts or a prop rod to hold the hood open. It had springs, what I think are called clock springs. The springs would open the hood just like gas struts too. Why every company didn't use them I can't understand. Why no company uses them today I can't understand. A simpler part that achieves the same result.
Cost, if everyone else is using them the unit cost when you order 100,000 will be lower than if you are ordering 100,000 tempered steel springs that nobody else uses. The downside of volume pricing
@@twinchargedmr2 The hood didn't slam open like a mouse trap if that is what you are thinking. It opened at the same speed a hoods with gas struts in normal temperatures.
Andre, would putting the transfer case in neutral with the transmission in drive help warm it up a little quicker? I use to do that with my manual transmission trucks (don't forget to set the parking brake!) because when it's in neutral, the fluid just sits at the bottom starving the bearings/ internals of oil. Not sure if it would help with an automatic though.
Ha, anyone with a diesel should have a block heater. I live in north east Minnesota, and, while -8 is cold, it gets a hell of a lot colder. Modern vehicles are so much easier to start, and, if you have to park outside, get a block heater whether it is a diesel or gas engine. I used to park my Silverado outside, and it would always start even without a block heater. Of course you have to have a good battery, a cheap of old battery will not help. My John Deere diesels did not have glo plugs, but, when it got very cold, you had to have a block heater , they also always started when plugged in overnight.
I worked in Newport VT many years ago. I had my 2000 Ford 7.3 diesel. It was -24F all day long. She started up rough but started. Treating the diesel fuel for those temps is vital. The T444 IH was designed as a cold weather medium duty engine. Miss her.
My diesel cold startup experience with this storm as follows: Truck 2002 Ford f250 7.3 Batteries Aldelco AGM Golds, 6 years old. Coolant/D.water 60/40 Oil Shell Rotella T6 5w40 Odometer 175,000 miles Motorcraft glow plugs, 2 years old. Block heater, Hotshots winter fuel additive. Startup 1 with Block heater. Temperature: -8, -45 with wind chill. Block heater for 3 hours. Truck started right up with 1 cycle of the glow plugs. After 10 seconds Truck went into high idle. No smoke after 2 seconds. No engine lag. Near perfect startup. Startup 2 without Block heater. Temperature: -3 -40 with windchill. 1 cycle of the glow plugs also. Truck started right up again but this time after startup it lagged to idle engine speed. 10 seconds later went into high idle and after 20 minutes resumed normal idle. Blew white smoke. Leaked no oil due to brand new oil cooler seals. And maintained 14.6v during idle. Overall old trucks do fine if they're maintained well and proper assistance measures are utilized.
Ah so many pleasant memories. One morning back in the 80's I was too late to wait for multiple busses so I jumped in my old Buick on a morning like this, fired it up, scraped the windshield as best I could inside and out, ploughed through frozen piled up snow with that GM posi, made it to the undeground parking lot at work and grabbed the elevator to the office in time. One hitch though. The car had busted hoses and absolutely no water when I fired it up. I took a chance and let me tell you that old 455 was toasty by the time I shut it off. Winter trips at 7 am to work at bone cracking temperatures are par for the course in Ontario and some of my fondest memories. Not!
Great video, the grid heater is actually for the emission system to reduce soot load. I have a LML Duramax in my GMC and to reduce emissions and better fuel economy it lives in my garage. It is plugged in 2 hrs before start up with a block heater, oil pan heater and transmission pan heater. I prefer to baby my truck to reduce wear and tear. It is extremely rare that my glow plugs come on.
Nice truck brother, it’s a real shame more ppl don’t take pride and maintain their vehicles. I’ve got an 03 suburban 2500 with 340k miles and 8000 hrs on her but she still runs strong. Every 5k mile fuel filter and oil change, 50k on trans, diffs, transfer case, brakes, coolant and power steering. One day I’d like to throw in an LBZ tho, one day
@@LibertyOrD___h yes I agree we need to look after our trucks. I run 5W-40 full synthetic oil and change it twice a year because I pull a fifth wheel trailer. Brakes are checked twice a year when the winter wheels come off then go on. My son has a 1 ton GMC, same thing happens to that.
The grid heater on a Cummins is not for emissions. They don't have glow plugs so that's the only way to warm the air. A duramax has glow plugs and they come on every time you start it.
@@MrCherrygrovedude I didn’t realize the Cummins is sans glow plugs. I have a diesel in my 109 LandRover which is glowplug with ether pump start, 1969 vintage
@@chrisbarnes2823 no glow plugs and being an inline 6 is the reason for it's legendary reliability and simplicity. Cummins is the best engine you can get in a light duty pickup.
Wow, I’m surprised that record is 30 something years old for OAT in Colorado. I would think -8 would be nothing for Colorado. I’m only 1 hour away from Chicago, very rural area where I live and it hits -10 OAT every year for a week minimum.
Never had any problem starting my diesels (Ford and Toyota in Europe) down to - 25F/-32C with winter diesel. Started my hilux at - 8F yesterday, no issues whatsoever. Electric windows, just fine. Usually I use my aux heater though. I always see big diesels from the US having problems starting in the cold, why?
-14, but up to -3 by 10 in the morning? What god damn tropical paradise is this?! Your brakes weren't even iced over, and your shocks actually still worked?! I am downright jealous! _-An idiot who lives in Edmonton, Alberta, where it was in the -30 to -32f range the past couple days, and his gas truck's battery packed it in_
My 2020 HO remote started that day at 0500. Granted, I cheated and had it plugged in. You could double press the start button to skip the preheat and it would still start just fine down to probably -30. BTW, the truck will idle up on it's own for warmup and to maintain engine temp AFTER a brief warmup. I wouldn't force it to high idle when it's that cold, particularly when your oil bypass is active.
I know I take it easy on my 8 speed transmission in my Ram 1500 when it's cold out. It definitely holds a gear longer and shifts slower until it warms up.
2018 ram Cummins -14 over night. Didn’t run for 24 hours not plugged in. 109K miles. One grid heater cycle and fired right up. Ran on 5 for like 4 seconds and perfect after that. Completely flawless 16 hours driving in the negatives. No bra on the front. Plenty of heat. Just gotta maintain your trucks.
Glad I have an L5P. Pos Cummins sounds like a 90s truck and takes 30 seconds before you can start it 😂 shit my old LB7 doesn't even make them noises in -20
Do you guys have an alpine fuel mixture for winter? Here in Aus, they add kerosene or similar to the diesel to enable cold weather starting. Mind you, we don't get temps as low you do. For us, temps rarely go below -12 C, (5 F?). -8 F or even -40 F/C you are getting over there is astonishing. Crikey, that's cold!
I used to have a Case IH Maxxum tractor with a 5.9 Cummins here In upstate NY. It was 1990 model. I never had trouble starting it in the cold. I ran 0w-40 Mobile 1 Delvac in it. Others couldn't plow snow. I ended up plowing all my neighbors for free.
You guys are silly. -3F (-14C) is nothin. I just started my duramax this morning -35C (-31F) in Canada. I get it’ll never get that cold down south, but don’t act like it’s the ultimate test of a cold start, cause it’s not.
I must have one of the 5.9's built on a Friday.. My 03 3500 won't even think about even a hiccup in anything below 40 degrees Fahrenheit.. My 07 lbz never gives me an issue even in the coldest Temps I've had it which was -17 and without using the block heater...
Can't hear a word you're saying after the startup, Andre. You're cameraman ignored your instruction to close the door. But after that, I enjoyed the video. You guys are a pleasant pair to watch. Very low "annoyance index". BTW, it's 10deg in north ATL right now. Will easily be in single digits by morning.
We have a 2022 Rebel Ecodiesel. It's -31f here today. With windchill feels like -52f. She remote started great. But everything feels super stiff when you drive.
I am from northeast Wyoming. The week before Christmas we were well below zero for several days. I own a 2012 Ram 2500 diesel. It started at -22 (not plugged in)and I used it throughout the day. Hot Shots Secret anti-gel and number 2 diesel.
Man I didn't realize how many Canadians watched 🤣😂 just kidding guys. I'm from Phoenix everyone here does same thing any time some says something about being hot. I'm just here enjoying our 60 degree weather
Been Temps of -40 f up in Northern bc and my 2020 ho 3500 starts up just fine in those Temps. The engine warms up quickly but I try not to drive it until the trans hits 68 f when the torque converter will actually lock up
It cracks me up you guys think it’s that freakin cold. Andre is acting like it’s the apocalypse, “Even the plastic is cold” Duh! I love you guys but sometimes… 🙏☘️
In 1978, I had a heated dipstick for my Minnesota car. It started at 20 below. Of course we watch another video on a vehicle that should function. Maybe they will be lucky and it won't start. Why do I say this? Have you seen the ridiculous price for diesel!
PFFT -8 is not not that cold. How about a cold start at -22F Which my 18 year old Mercedes diesel does all the time with no issues... WITHOUT being plugged in.
I have a 99 24 valve, when outside air temperature is -20 c I plug block engine heater in for 3hours. Activate preheat an engine starts in 1.5 seconds.. when artic air drops lower, I remove batteries into warm area.for protection of freeze..
I own modern diesel semis. I would never recommend high after a cold start. That oil is like pancake syrup when it's this cold. That means all the lubricating parts were starving for oil. Including the turbo. Do you know what the cost is for a new turbo alone would be? Great video.
I have a 2020 HO Cummins and mine would NOT start here In East Texas just two years ago during the freeze of -2 degrees . Love my ram but sad that my 2018 Branson tractor that cost $42,000 less started with simple glow plugs. I had to plug my trucks block heater in for 40 minutes before it started. You must have got lucky.
I have a 91.5 dodge with six in a row under the hood and I use Amsoil cold flow improver and my truck has no problem starting it could be -10-15 I hit the heat grid not once but twice it comes on then it’s the way to start goes off and I hit it again and nothings running before three or four revolutions of the crankshaft when I go to start it and it starts instantly and you got the heat exchanger on the side of the block for the transmission but I’m also use a amsoil products and my transmission and I’m not gonna go bid on it at that temperature that’s for sure I’m gonna let the truck sit and warm up for like 15 minutes drop it in gear and away we go is Jackie Gleason used to say this is Jim mungai from Kennerdell Pennsylvania when it comes down to reliability my old Dodge with 500+ thousand miles on it I’ll match up against these new trucks any day and I will win
I can’t believe you violated one of the first safety rules I learned 50+ years ago. When the hood is visually blocking the person you’re working with, you must verbally verify hands are clear and safe before turning the engine over.
Everybody knows you’re supposed to rev that engine into the red zone as soon as it starts while the guy outside sprays starting fluid and brake cleaner directly down its throat hole.
😁
🤣🤣 I use a blow torch to de gel the diesel in the gas tank and warm up the engine.
@@seymorefact4333 they sell anti gel for it 😆
mint
As a wise man from northern Alberta teached me, hitting rev limiter on a solid freeze engine is the quickest way to warm it up
In case no one has mentioned, the rapid clicking or buzzing heard for a few moments after the start was the oil filter by-pass opening and closing. Once the cold thickened oil overcomes the filter media resistance the noise stops.
You are correct. Even ISX 15 Cummins does that in bone cold temps.
Wow that's interesting, I thought it was only there as a redundancy in case of excessively thick sludgy oil.
@@aslkdfjhg excessively sludgy oil? ROFL
That's really good to know. Thank you.
Why did you turn on the exhaust brake?
This is the perfect weather for Tommy to review the cold weather capabilities of one of your electric vehicles.
@Andrew they already did multiple videos of the hummer in the cold starting up and driving. It did just fine.
@Andrew and diesels struggle the same way in that regard, as he said in the video. Old diesels and cold weather do not match, the only viable option for extreme cold is gas right now.
My Mach E had a 90 mile range fully charged in 30 degree weather!!
@@futurevikingtony11 ouch. That’s got to be the worst range reduction that I’ve heard of so far.
@@loganhyler9588 A complete fallacy. Diesels don’t struggle any more than anything else does when it’s super cold. -30 last week and I just then had my first gel up and I’ve been driving nothing but my two Cummins trucks since 2002.
The real question this morning is “What’s the range of your Hummer?”
This. They'll probably hide it until its 50F again.
20 milies take it or leave it
Better than an EV
You do not have to select high idle or turn on the exhaust brake, the truck will do everything itself.
At 170°F the exhaust brake will come off and at 180°F the idle will go to normal unless of course you hit the brake first.
Exacly you could see the rpms come up without him doing anything
@@rollingacresfarmstead206 Yes!
I usually leave mine plugged in and if the engine is not stone cold it will idle at low RPM for a minute then step up.... If its stupid cold it will fire up then go to fast idle almost immediately, grid heater will be on steady for a bit as well
My exhaust brake only activates with the button. My high idle is automatic. 17 2500 Laramie.
@clpadel8692 that's weird. My 2016 does it.
for as many trucks as you guys drive you sure are surprised about a lot of standard and basic stuff.
Kinda dumb... Leave the vehicle in that weather 4 days straight without starting, then try it. You'd get NADA. Gas would start right up. Most people at my buddies snowmobiling camp goes with gas for this reason.
yeah, i left my diesel car 1 week in sub freezing temperatures without winter diesel fuel in the tank (because i filled up 1 month before), at first attempt it shut down after few seconds, then at the second attempt stayed on, maybe diesel fuel turned thicker and fuel pressure wasnt enought, who knows.
Andre barely phased, ice water runs through his veins!
You guys don't know what cool is I live in northern BC I didn't plug my truck in it it started at -38 my 59 it took two tries it started
And this video was filmed at like -22
And they thought it was super cold 🤣🤣
I'm in saskatoon and it's-47c right now. -22c is t shirt weather
We’ve been -40 to -60 here in Interior Alaska for the past 5 days. That is ambient temps, not windchill. Windchill is irrelevant to vehicles it only applies to people. I would love to be at -3F but I realize its all relative , if you’re use to 30-50F above then -3F is a shock to the system. Cheers from North Pole, Alaska! 🎅🏻🎄☃️🇺🇸
How does your vehicle run ? If you have one
Grew up in northpole on newby rd, In wasilla now, best place to grow up! Miss it, rippen the 200x or the bravo to moose creek.
@@lj2757 120 volt ac block heater and oil pan heater has to be turned on at least 2-3 hrs before you even try to start it
Mid -30’s here in northern Saskatchewan the past few weeks
@@landon6327 stoke the wood stove eh.
You should head up to Alberta Canada right now. My sister sent me a snapshot of their weather yesterday, and it was -41 Celsius without the wind chill , that's -41.8 Fahrenheit. Try a cold start in that!
That’s what block heaters are for
Also these guys don’t even have the winter cover on…
@@MattSmith-vl8zp From Edmonton, Alberta. Yesterday I zipped my coat up, felt like an admission of failure.
... am in Alberta. My area had -44C (-47F) with -55C (-67F) wind chill. So I kinda laughed when they showed the -3 Thermometer, LOL.
Many of us start our trucks in that weather without using our block heaters. For my Tundra in this weather I run a 900CCA battery with 0W30 synthetic oil. Diesel engines need a little more love than gas, but if you run a 5w40 synthetic in your diesel with amazing battery power, you can still start fine.
Plugging in the block heater is best, if you have that option.
Dear Genius, the windchill is a made up mathematical number and does not affect the ambient temperature. If its -20 with -100 windchill....its still only -20 and nothing can get colder then that. Thanks.
Where -3 in Tennessee this morning! Brrr! Got wood stove going watching tfl!
I might be mistaken but the truck goes into high idle when started in cold weather. My 21 Cummins takes about a minute or so after it starts to automatically go into high idle. Not sure it’s a good idea to force it into high idle right after you start it when it’s that cold out but man, it’s really cold out there. In NJ it’s 50deg going down to about 20 by 5pm.
I agree. My 2019 goes into high idle mode with the exhaust brake engaged automatically after a few minutes. I think it's allowing some time to get the oil warmed ever so slightly before it revs up.
Sounds balmy! -37 here in SW MT. -51 with Windchill
Also in NJ, we’ll be out salting roads later this afternoon. Tomorrow morning our temps will be around the temps in this video
@@caseypries7559 my old 2004 Ram Cummins goes into high idle as well when it cold. It also surges the idle for a few minutes then levels out the idle. It only does that it cold weather. Around the freezing mark and below. It starts pretty good in cold weather.
@@vincentlombardo8991 here in Indiana it's -9F right now with wind chill around -35F so it's just lovely out. Great day to stay in the house.
The CO temperature is making me appreciate FL right now.
FL summer makes you appreciate CO summer btw
It’s -15 in northern Minnesota right now that should make you appreciate FL even more
@working_country ___ 66 today in phx...low 70's next few. Even Flag
is in 50's but they suppose to be colder
Would really like to see some Hummer EV testing in this cold weather (as others have indicated). Especially, leaving it outside over night without it plugged in.
And go straight to towing. What do you want to bet....40 miles on a full charge? 25?
@@drockjr that means it works as planned.
Hush! Dont asks important questions like that!
Damn global warming. 😳
Turns on truck.
.5 seconds later: “wow, this is a pretty long warm up cycle”
It’s amazing how quick that thing actually warmed up my old 7.3 wouldn’t even think about heat until a good 10-15 minutes down the road
Yep, we had to beat the snot out of ours to get any heat.
You didn't use a grill cover I take it?
From Canada this video made me laugh. Every car makes funny noises in winter but once its 10-15 years old ,Then you find out real quality.
Funny you say that...Ive always thought that too. The cold points out short- comings of ones vehicle.
Funny most cars now can’t make it 8 years… it’s sad they fall apart at the seams especially in the extremes
Absolutely true. The blower motor on my Jeep used to squeal like crazy at -40. Blew out a set of Monroe shock absorbers on my old Dakota hitting a frost heave at -45. Radial tires would start developing flat spots in them at those temps. I chalk it all up to the fun of living in Interior Alaska in the winter. :)
having all these gauges and numbers are great but it leads to a lot of anxiety. Old trucks some years ago went through cold climates too but nobody knew about the "real" temp numbers of transmission fluids etc. And they still worked.
I assume your very old lol. Overheating is usually the culprit of when things break so being able to monitor many temps at once is useful and necessary
Wth?? He pushes the start button & literally 3 seconds later he says whoa, this is a long warm up cycle? Lmao.. That was an ideal cold start... it didn't take long & it cranked right over.... many diesels hafta be preheated several times & do extended cranking to fire up.... That Cummins performed perfectly... as usual
-8 F and they are thinking its cold? Move to northern Minnesota, Wisconsin or other northern tier states. -25F every winter... dual batteries and inlet grid and glow plugs. And 5w40 synthetic.
Andre I wish you guys would include how well the heated seats and steering wheel work in some of these videos. I think people would enjoy seeing small things like that.
I have a 2021 3500 longhorn limited and I can tell you the seats/ steering wheel gets hot pretty quick. It was 14 degrees Fahrenheit last night and within ten minutes of driving, I shut seat/ steering wheel heaters off. They almost get too hot.
2021 Laramie 2500 Cummins. The heated seats and wheel work really well. The wheel gets hot quickly and I usually don’t leave it on very long. The heated seats get toasty quickly too. I find that once I’m warm I usually switch them to low or they get too hot.
They cold start modem Cummins ( miserably) all the time in 35 below weather here in Alaska..
Stay with gas, it may save your life
Wow, I have a brand new truck and it starts when it is cold. How about a 7 year old truck and battery. Not impressive for any new vehicle gas or diesel. BLA BLA BLA nothing to see here.
Now go do a cold start on the Hummer or the Lightning.
Let's see what their range is.
@@daytona3927 for most people range doesn't matter, they just need for their vehicle to start and get them to work and back.
@@fabulousoffroaddesigns5080 will it make it to my work 62 miles each way at this -15 degrees (-45 windchill) day when roads are pure ice and takes HOURS to drive and running heat? Minnesota
@@KylePetersonDmaster223 yup sure it will.
@@fabulousoffroaddesigns5080 no. It won’t 😂 it’ll be dead before I get to work
I wonder if the struts on the hood failing had someone to do with the weight of snow on the hood. There was still quite a bit of snow on it. If not im disappointed in RAM quality for allowing that to slip past their quality control cold weather testing! No good! Plus that window motor needs to be of a heavier duty variety!
Andre, you are wrong on all of this info: the Cummins does not have glow plugs, it uses a grid heater. You don't have to use the exhaust brake on cold starts or the high idle feature, it will go into high idle on its own. This isn't a a DMax....
Where I am in Canada right now we've had like like 3 or 4 straight days of -25*Celsius, which is like -13* Fahrenheit. It's so cold in British Columbia that even the rainforests on the coast have dry powder snow right now.
Alberta yesterday morning: -37C = -35F Nice and toasty today at -25C = -13F
@@alflyer9406 I’m right here with ya bud, warm days are ahead! Lol
Canada who?
@@JeepCherokeeful it's now chinada
@@freeaudiobooks7469 we prefer Canadistan.
Started my BMW 220d Grand tourer in -11F with no problem last week, in Sweden..
I’m in CO. @8000ft. My 17 Ram always starts, but when it’s really cold I cycle the intake heater twice. Much happier starting!!
I fire up my dirtymax at -30 without plugging it in no problem.
-8 is a joke 😂
I live in northern Finland
Hand cranked my Lada in -47c weather
And it started with no problem and worked with no problem
I live in Saskatchewan at -47 c and my chrysler starts no problem
@@Welcometofacsistube Wow pretty good especially it being a chrysler, not a premium vehicle like a lada.
@@garys2157 did your bicycle start? Or did your mom drive you today?
😄
@Hal 1000 I wasn't the one with the childish brag about their vehicle, anyways it would be silly to leave my battery in my electric bike if I am not using it at winter, and no problem starting my 2022 Lariat F150.
You probably missed the original joke to about it being a Lada.
I always cringe when I see these cold start videos. It’s so hard on those motors. Just because it can start doesn’t mean you should. Always plug ‘‘em in.
I love the Cummins. What I dont understand is why Ram doesnt heat the bottom mirror on the tow mirrors. They heat the top, but not the bottom and it doesnt make sense to me.
I start my truck on -40 not being plugged all the time during winter lol
-37C here in Saskatchewan Canada(-31F) my truck is sitting plugged in at work for a few days… will be interesting to see how it starts… 2022 Ram 1500 Rebel with the Hemi
I'm in saskatoon. -47c with the wind chill
@@Welcometofacsistube windchill didnt affect equipment but just living creatures btw
@@Tonyx.yt. another one who know nothing about the cold.
Windchill does affect equipment. Big time.
@@Welcometofacsistube It does as far as equipment is warm, that's right.
But once the object reach the ambient temperature, there's no heat to lose quickly due to windchill.
Wind increase heat loss, that's for sure, but you cant lose heat if there's no heat to lose anymore.
I also now have a 2500 Cummins 2021. And mine started well too here in the Denver metro area, but the heat cycle was only like 20 seconds at most! Interesting to see yours was longer!
Grid heater bolt drops in ur engine and it blows.
Mopar junk.
Need banks bypass and def delete cause that freezes too.
Airbox gets full of snow.
Pure utter garbage.
Never mopar again
@@freeaudiobooks7469 can't delete in my county otherwise I would. I test drove Cummins prototypes. They are far from junk.
its a chrysler it won't last anyway
@@waynehicks317 Deleting actually is terrible for the driver's health. Studies show that exhaust emissions are worse inside the cabin than outside directly behind the tailpipe, which is pretty hard to believe at first but it is actually a very repeatable finding. The backseat is typically worse off. Suffice to see, unless you think smoking is a good idea, you should really refrain from deleting the emissions equipment.
@@unconventionalideas5683 I mean with my current local laws, I can't anyways. But is that because some people who delete also want to roll coal? Because my truck would definitely be tuned to where it would not be.
I not familiar with the modern Mopar trannies, but the 727 3-speed that they are based on, the best way to cold start an old Mopar is in neutral. The fluid pumps through the transmission and warms everything up to temp. The modern transmissions may pump oil in park; I dunno.
100% correct
Why wouldn’t it? Even though its a dodge the part that matters is a cummins.
When Andre was taking after start it was very hard to hear what he said! Other than that great video!!
Well my 2009 Rhino wouldn't start either !
Cummins has done a great job on the grid heater on the intake. They work really well up here in Canada at temps cooler than that all winter long
🛻
Yep .. just watch out for the nut falling off of the grid heater inside the engine. Many videos out there of catastrophic engine failure because of the dumb grid heater nut falling off. I just blew a bunch of cash on a Banks intake and replacement grid heater as insurance to never have that happen to me. Merry Christmas!
Dude, let thar poor motor get oil pressure before idling up.
One of my biggest pet peeves are the people who hold down the push to start button while the vehicle is starting... its push to start for a reason... just push it and let go! Stop holding it down!
-9 wind chill -39 and my 2015 chevy 2500 diesel would not start. I had put Howes in the tank. I did not plug the block heater in.
My old man drove nothing but diesels his whole life. To prevent gelling he would add a gallon or two of gas at each winter fill up, then top it up with diesel. I have been doing the same thing on my Ford 6.0 and Ram 6.7 and have never had a gelling problem. Merry Christmas!
Merry Christmas TFL!
When I was a kid my dad had a 1989 F-150 and it didn't have gas struts or a prop rod to hold the hood open. It had springs, what I think are called clock springs. The springs would open the hood just like gas struts too.
Why every company didn't use them I can't understand. Why no company uses them today I can't understand. A simpler part that achieves the same result.
Cost, if everyone else is using them the unit cost when you order 100,000 will be lower than if you are ordering 100,000 tempered steel springs that nobody else uses. The downside of volume pricing
@@rowerwet True. The only other possible thing I can think of is maybe there was a safety risk(?) when installing the springs at the factory.
A hood probably slammed someone in the head seems like the obvious reason
@@twinchargedmr2 The hood didn't slam open like a mouse trap if that is what you are thinking. It opened at the same speed a hoods with gas struts in normal temperatures.
You still see this setup on new Chevy trucks
Were you using any fuel additives/anti gel?
11 minute video to see if a brand new truck starts
Andre, would putting the transfer case in neutral with the transmission in drive help warm it up a little quicker? I use to do that with my manual transmission trucks (don't forget to set the parking brake!) because when it's in neutral, the fluid just sits at the bottom starving the bearings/ internals of oil. Not sure if it would help with an automatic though.
Let's see if you can drive and charge your Eevee at these temperatures
Why would that be a problem, does your electric pipes freeze at the winter? 🤭
Prolly just enough milage to drive around the block
Ha, anyone with a diesel should have a block heater. I live in north east Minnesota, and, while -8 is cold, it gets a hell of a lot colder. Modern vehicles are so much easier to start, and, if you have to park outside, get a block heater whether it is a diesel or gas engine. I used to park my Silverado outside, and it would always start even without a block heater. Of course you have to have a good battery, a cheap of old battery will not help. My John Deere diesels did not have glo plugs, but, when it got very cold, you had to have a block heater , they also always started when plugged in overnight.
I'm in North Dakota right now... -26f.. Everyone has a plug in hybrid here... They all have block heaters...lol
Cheyenne just had -52° with windchill yesterday.
you know people aren't used to cold temps when they cite windchill
Casper was -42*F air temp.
that not cold tray -33 that cold Alberta
If this was a proper cold start video the camera would have been watching the exhaust when it was started
that is very hard on engine bearings
I worked in Newport VT many years ago. I had my 2000 Ford 7.3 diesel. It was -24F all day long. She started up rough but started. Treating the diesel fuel for those temps is vital. The T444 IH was designed as a cold weather medium duty engine. Miss her.
My diesel cold startup experience with this storm as follows:
Truck 2002 Ford f250 7.3
Batteries Aldelco AGM Golds, 6 years old.
Coolant/D.water 60/40
Oil Shell Rotella T6 5w40
Odometer 175,000 miles
Motorcraft glow plugs, 2 years old.
Block heater, Hotshots winter fuel additive.
Startup 1 with Block heater.
Temperature: -8, -45 with wind chill.
Block heater for 3 hours.
Truck started right up with 1 cycle of the glow plugs. After 10 seconds Truck went into high idle. No smoke after 2 seconds. No engine lag. Near perfect startup.
Startup 2 without Block heater.
Temperature: -3 -40 with windchill.
1 cycle of the glow plugs also.
Truck started right up again but this time after startup it lagged to idle engine speed. 10 seconds later went into high idle and after 20 minutes resumed normal idle. Blew white smoke.
Leaked no oil due to brand new oil cooler seals. And maintained 14.6v during idle.
Overall old trucks do fine if they're maintained well and proper assistance measures are utilized.
Such a beautiful truck
Ah so many pleasant memories.
One morning back in the 80's I was too late to wait for multiple busses so I jumped in my old Buick on a morning like this, fired it up, scraped the windshield as best I could inside and out, ploughed through frozen piled up snow with that GM posi,
made it to the undeground parking lot at work and grabbed the elevator to the office in time.
One hitch though.
The car had busted hoses and absolutely no water when I fired it up.
I took a chance and let me tell you that old 455 was toasty by the time I shut it off.
Winter trips at 7 am to work at bone cracking temperatures are par for the course in Ontario and some of my fondest memories.
Not!
That's awesome!
Great video, the grid heater is actually for the emission system to reduce soot load. I have a LML Duramax in my GMC and to reduce emissions and better fuel economy it lives in my garage.
It is plugged in 2 hrs before start up with a block heater, oil pan heater and transmission pan heater. I prefer to baby my truck to reduce wear and tear. It is extremely rare that my glow plugs come on.
Nice truck brother, it’s a real shame more ppl don’t take pride and maintain their vehicles. I’ve got an 03 suburban 2500 with 340k miles and 8000 hrs on her but she still runs strong. Every 5k mile fuel filter and oil change, 50k on trans, diffs, transfer case, brakes, coolant and power steering. One day I’d like to throw in an LBZ tho, one day
@@LibertyOrD___h yes I agree we need to look after our trucks. I run 5W-40 full synthetic oil and change it twice a year because I pull a fifth wheel trailer. Brakes are checked twice a year when the winter wheels come off then go on. My son has a 1 ton GMC, same thing happens to that.
The grid heater on a Cummins is not for emissions. They don't have glow plugs so that's the only way to warm the air. A duramax has glow plugs and they come on every time you start it.
@@MrCherrygrovedude I didn’t realize the Cummins is sans glow plugs. I have a diesel in my 109 LandRover which is glowplug with ether pump start, 1969 vintage
@@chrisbarnes2823 no glow plugs and being an inline 6 is the reason for it's legendary reliability and simplicity. Cummins is the best engine you can get in a light duty pickup.
Love our '21 2500 Cummins, and although not as cold as your was, ours ran fine in 16 degrees during a cold snap here in the Pacific Northwest!
The active grill shutters really help the warmup on these new diesels .
damn colorado warm as hell..
Wow, I’m surprised that record is 30 something years old for OAT in Colorado. I would think -8 would be nothing for Colorado. I’m only 1 hour away from Chicago, very rural area where I live and it hits -10 OAT every year for a week minimum.
Come up to Saskatchewan. -8 F is not that bad. It has been in the -30's here all week.
Started my 22 ram today, -16 ambient-57 wind chill. Started no problem
Never had any problem starting my diesels (Ford and Toyota in Europe) down to - 25F/-32C with winter diesel.
Started my hilux at - 8F yesterday, no issues whatsoever.
Electric windows, just fine.
Usually I use my aux heater though.
I always see big diesels from the US having problems starting in the cold, why?
-14, but up to -3 by 10 in the morning?
What god damn tropical paradise is this?!
Your brakes weren't even iced over, and your shocks actually still worked?!
I am downright jealous!
_-An idiot who lives in Edmonton, Alberta, where it was in the -30 to -32f range the past couple days, and his gas truck's battery packed it in_
My 2020 HO remote started that day at 0500. Granted, I cheated and had it plugged in. You could double press the start button to skip the preheat and it would still start just fine down to probably -30. BTW, the truck will idle up on it's own for warmup and to maintain engine temp AFTER a brief warmup. I wouldn't force it to high idle when it's that cold, particularly when your oil bypass is active.
I know I take it easy on my 8 speed transmission in my Ram 1500 when it's cold out. It definitely holds a gear longer and shifts slower until it warms up.
2018 ram Cummins -14 over night. Didn’t run for 24 hours not plugged in. 109K miles. One grid heater cycle and fired right up. Ran on 5 for like 4 seconds and perfect after that. Completely flawless 16 hours driving in the negatives. No bra on the front. Plenty of heat. Just gotta maintain your trucks.
Glad I have an L5P. Pos Cummins sounds like a 90s truck and takes 30 seconds before you can start it 😂 shit my old LB7 doesn't even make them noises in -20
Do you guys have an alpine fuel mixture for winter?
Here in Aus, they add kerosene or similar to the diesel to enable cold weather starting.
Mind you, we don't get temps as low you do. For us, temps rarely go below -12 C, (5 F?). -8 F or even -40 F/C you are getting over there is astonishing. Crikey, that's cold!
UUUAAA , what a surprise! A car starts at -3C, very surprised. And is preheating for 30seconds... How that came to me...
Coldest day in Colorado my ass! Go to Alamosa or Granby where its regularly -40F to -60F.
I used to have a Case IH Maxxum tractor with a 5.9 Cummins here In upstate NY. It was 1990 model. I never had trouble starting it in the cold. I ran 0w-40 Mobile 1 Delvac in it. Others couldn't plow snow. I ended up plowing all my neighbors for free.
You guys are silly. -3F (-14C) is nothin. I just started my duramax this morning -35C (-31F) in Canada. I get it’ll never get that cold down south, but don’t act like it’s the ultimate test of a cold start, cause it’s not.
I must have one of the 5.9's built on a Friday.. My 03 3500 won't even think about even a hiccup in anything below 40 degrees Fahrenheit.. My 07 lbz never gives me an issue even in the coldest Temps I've had it which was -17 and without using the block heater...
Can't hear a word you're saying after the startup, Andre. You're cameraman ignored your instruction to close the door. But after that, I enjoyed the video. You guys are a pleasant pair to watch. Very low "annoyance index".
BTW, it's 10deg in north ATL right now. Will easily be in single digits by morning.
We have a 2022 Rebel Ecodiesel. It's -31f here today. With windchill feels like -52f. She remote started great. But everything feels super stiff when you drive.
I am from northeast Wyoming. The week before Christmas we were well below zero for several days. I own a 2012 Ram 2500 diesel. It started at -22 (not plugged in)and I used it throughout the day. Hot Shots Secret anti-gel and number 2 diesel.
Man I didn't realize how many Canadians watched 🤣😂 just kidding guys. I'm from Phoenix everyone here does same thing any time some says something about being hot. I'm just here enjoying our 60 degree weather
That's commonrail atomization for you. However, for below freezing I'd recommend a fuel powered engine heater like a Webasto or Eberspächer.
Been Temps of -40 f up in Northern bc and my 2020 ho 3500 starts up just fine in those Temps. The engine warms up quickly but I try not to drive it until the trans hits 68 f when the torque converter will actually lock up
Lol come to Canada. Its that cold for 6 months every year. Was working in -51. Bundle up.
It cracks me up you guys think it’s that freakin cold. Andre is acting like it’s the apocalypse, “Even the plastic is cold” Duh! I love you guys but sometimes… 🙏☘️
I started a 2021 Ram 6.7 cummins in Virginia MN during a cold front. The truck was unplugged overnight, with temperature at -30F. Fired right up.
In 1978, I had a heated dipstick for my Minnesota car. It started at 20 below. Of course we watch another video on a vehicle that should function. Maybe they will be lucky and it won't start. Why do I say this? Have you seen the ridiculous price for diesel!
Don't those Cummins have a heat box rather than the glow plugs you mentioned? The 2010 Cummins tow truck at my work doesn't have glow plugs.
PFFT -8 is not not that cold. How about a cold start at -22F Which my 18 year old Mercedes diesel does all the time with no issues... WITHOUT being plugged in.
I have a 99 24 valve, when outside air temperature is -20 c I plug block engine heater in for 3hours. Activate preheat an engine starts in 1.5 seconds.. when artic air drops lower, I remove batteries into warm area.for protection of freeze..
I own modern diesel semis. I would never recommend high after a cold start. That oil is like pancake syrup when it's this cold. That means all the lubricating parts were starving for oil. Including the turbo. Do you know what the cost is for a new turbo alone would be? Great video.
Fun Fact , pay attention when the media says "xxx in recorded history" often times that recorded history started in the 50s and 60s..
I have a 2020 HO Cummins and mine would NOT start here In East Texas just two years ago during the freeze of -2 degrees . Love my ram but sad that my 2018 Branson tractor that cost $42,000 less started with simple glow plugs. I had to plug my trucks block heater in for 40 minutes before it started. You must have got lucky.
A couple of Wimps, that’s T-shirt weather, now our winters are minus 30 with windchill- 40,. Usually around there
I have a 91.5 dodge with six in a row under the hood and I use Amsoil cold flow improver and my truck has no problem starting it could be -10-15 I hit the heat grid not once but twice it comes on then it’s the way to start goes off and I hit it again and nothings running before three or four revolutions of the crankshaft when I go to start it and it starts instantly and you got the heat exchanger on the side of the block for the transmission but I’m also use a amsoil products and my transmission and I’m not gonna go bid on it at that temperature that’s for sure I’m gonna let the truck sit and warm up for like 15 minutes drop it in gear and away we go is Jackie Gleason used to say this is Jim mungai from Kennerdell Pennsylvania when it comes down to reliability my old Dodge with 500+ thousand miles on it I’ll match up against these new trucks any day and I will win
I can’t believe you violated one of the first safety rules I learned 50+ years ago.
When the hood is visually blocking the person you’re working with, you must verbally verify hands are clear and safe before turning the engine over.