11 Underground Psychedelic Bands That Never Made It Big

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  • @thegreatrecaps
    @thegreatrecaps  Месяц назад +2

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  • @ThePaleGuy01
    @ThePaleGuy01 2 месяца назад +89

    Ever heard of Quicksilver Messenger Service? Are you kiddin'? One of the greatest bands in history!

    • @lilajagears8317
      @lilajagears8317 Месяц назад +4

      @@ThePaleGuy01 Cippolina should be remembered for his great guitar playing as well.

    • @dalegriffin6768
      @dalegriffin6768 Месяц назад +1

      Fairport Convention and Nazz are my 2 favorite pop psychedelic bands. I have listened to Quicksilver messenger service and they are really good, and I will go deeper into their analog.

    • @karlstuber6399
      @karlstuber6399 Месяц назад +4

      This video is geared for those who don’t know Quicksilver messenger service.

    • @screamingjimmy
      @screamingjimmy Месяц назад +3

      have another hit.. of fresh air

    • @ExplodingPsyche
      @ExplodingPsyche Месяц назад +1

      Happy Trails is one of the greatest albums of that era, in my opinion.

  • @alfonsomontuori9797
    @alfonsomontuori9797 2 месяца назад +87

    Another woefully under-appreciated band is Spirit--their first 4 albums, Spirit of 76 and then the masterpiece Future Games are amazing and deeply psychedelic... and not really commercial in a way that would get them to break through to the big time. Sadly few people know them beyond two "hits," I got a line on you and Nature's way and have no idea of how brilliant their eclectic albums were... if you don't know them, check out 12 Dreams of Dr. Sardonicus, Spirit of 76 and Future Games...psychedelic masterpieces.

    • @dougmphilly
      @dougmphilly 2 месяца назад +2

      i have every album but future games.

    • @robomaster4882
      @robomaster4882 2 месяца назад +9

      Certainly good enough for Zeppelin to rip off. Little Feat copped a riff too. Maybe others. They were too advanced for the average listener who was still listening to AM bubble gum music

    • @billmagowan1492
      @billmagowan1492 2 месяца назад +2

      12dods is amongst my top 20 all time favourites, every song a phenomenal masterpiece

    • @LawrenceCarroll1234
      @LawrenceCarroll1234 2 месяца назад +4

      @@robomaster4882, what's funny -- literally funny to me anyway (though obviously definitely NOT funny to those whose work Zeppelin co-opted) -- is how often Zepplin "got caught stealin'" and were sued, usually successfully.
      No one doubts Zep's incredible musical talents and prodigious output -- especially me. But -- they were definitely "looking out for #1" a bit too much.
      Spirit was an excellent band indeed though! I personally love "Too Much Business" and "Darkness" especially.
      But there are many I still haven't heard . . . 🙏🏻

    • @chmood
      @chmood 2 месяца назад +5

      Future Games was Fleetwood Mac; in ‘76, Spirit wasn’t the same band at all - reformed for a tour w/ just Cassidy & California from the original

  • @filiphenry1
    @filiphenry1 Месяц назад +30

    How about It's a Beautiful Day, a San Francisco band with David LaFlamme on electric violin, and their song "White Bird"? They almost made it to Woodstock, but quite literally lost their chance by a coin flip. Their self-titled initial album was a classic in my opinion.

    • @sylviap7144
      @sylviap7144 Месяц назад +2

      White Bird is an awesome song....so unique.

    • @crysstoll1191
      @crysstoll1191 Месяц назад +1

      Wasted Union Blues! They played (almost all new members) until about 10 yrs ago. Fantastic music.

    • @karlstuber6399
      @karlstuber6399 Месяц назад +2

      They had a Song On A K-tel record. Few of these did.

    • @marvinchase4899
      @marvinchase4899 Месяц назад +3

      I saw It's a Beautiful Day with Jethro Tull and the Main act was The Who, performing Tommy in the 70's (@Tanglewood, I think)

    • @sharonrichards1627
      @sharonrichards1627 Месяц назад +1

      I got to see It's a Beautiful Day in concert in the 70's. Poco opened for them. It was awesome.

  • @RayTuttle-of5qd
    @RayTuttle-of5qd Месяц назад +13

    Strawberry alarm clock gave us Ed King who went on to play guitar for Lynerd Skynard and helped write sweet home Alabama

    • @tonyhonour665
      @tonyhonour665 Месяц назад +1

      Incense and Peppermint is a brilliant album.

    • @chriscook5613
      @chriscook5613 28 дней назад

      He was playing bass then

  • @eugenelayton5231
    @eugenelayton5231 2 месяца назад +46

    Don't forget The Bubble Puppy playing Hot Smoke And Sassafrass. Hard driving acid rock!

  • @andrewt4042
    @andrewt4042 Месяц назад +8

    Blues Magoos actually had an album titled Psychedelic Lollipop.

  • @Lahay-pf5ch
    @Lahay-pf5ch 2 месяца назад +45

    Fever Tree was another good band. Glad you included West Coast Pop Art Experimental Band.

    • @SpongeLab
      @SpongeLab 2 месяца назад +4

      I think Bob Markley may have been the main reason WCPAEB didn't get big, He was the guy with the cash and gets writing credits on most of their song even tho he did not write any of them,he was loads older than every on else and had this thing for young girls...all a bit horrible, pity as the rest of the group were again quite good!

    • @chmood
      @chmood 2 месяца назад +1

      A photo of them appears under #9 Ultimate Spinach

    • @davidschecter5247
      @davidschecter5247 2 месяца назад +9

      Fever Tree were amazing. That first album is one of the best albums of the 1960s. I used to know their pianist.

    • @jimfritz2087
      @jimfritz2087 2 месяца назад +5

      We saw them open for the Jeff Beck Group in the fall of 1968. They played the whole 1st album. " San Francisco Girls" is a masterpiece .
      I M H O

    • @ClearLight1967
      @ClearLight1967 2 месяца назад

      @@SpongeLab Actually, Bob did write a lot of the lyrics for WCPAEB, hence all the references to young girls. Bob had all the connections too, which is why they got signed to Reprise. There was a lot of talent in the group in the shapes of Michael Lloyd and the Harris brothers, but Bob pulled all the strings.

  • @aquatarkus2022
    @aquatarkus2022 2 месяца назад +37

    Red Krayola and 13th Floor Elevators from Texas.

    • @TEXAS.N8V
      @TEXAS.N8V Месяц назад +5

      Texas🔥🔥❤❤

    • @franksiegle7823
      @franksiegle7823 11 дней назад +2

      @@TEXAS.N8V Great. Until Tommy Hall left the Elevators.

  • @donbodadonbo
    @donbodadonbo 2 месяца назад +39

    I like this video collection, but why do you have a clip (at about 11:42) of The Music Machine (doing "Talk Talk") in the middle of your Electric Prunes section?

    • @johnmoreno96
      @johnmoreno96 2 месяца назад +1

      Right, Why?

    • @SSGLew
      @SSGLew 2 месяца назад +1

      Exactly.

    • @superman9772
      @superman9772 2 месяца назад +1

      yep... and joe bird was famous for his "joe bird and the field hippies" and not so much for the "united states of america" along with him recording/producing nick drake's albums

    • @Musichead1968
      @Musichead1968 2 месяца назад +3

      @@superman9772You mean Joe Boyd?

    • @superman9772
      @superman9772 2 месяца назад +1

      @@Musichead1968 joe byrd actually... he's still alive (pretty sure)...

  • @TEXAS.N8V
    @TEXAS.N8V Месяц назад +9

    Post Moby Grape member Alexander Skip Spence released one of the most underground, mind blowing albums ever - Oar.

  • @jimwalshonline9346
    @jimwalshonline9346 2 месяца назад +63

    Thirteenth Floor Elevators with the inimitable Roky Erikson!

    • @noname-ll2vk
      @noname-ll2vk 2 месяца назад +8

      Everyone who knows knows that the Elevators top any list of top psychedelic bands. The proof is in the pudding, as generation after generation of musicians who hear Roky.'s siren call discover.

    • @jwoodrff
      @jwoodrff 2 месяца назад +3

      Their records, with every song, hold up to this day. They were the innovators.

    • @michaelpeck8312
      @michaelpeck8312 Месяц назад +3

      Easter Everywhere is my favorite album of all time.

    • @noname-ll2vk
      @noname-ll2vk Месяц назад +2

      @@michaelpeck8312 slip inside this house might be the best song ever recorded. Certainly one of the most effective and powerful. But as an overall album I lean towards The Psychedelic Sounds of because it really doesn't have any weak songs at all. And it has Fire Engine lol. But both are great, and certainly showed they were both completely serious and completely committed as well as being fully capable of catching that vision and getting it on vinyl or 8 track.
      It's a tragedy basically no real live shows of theirs survived, there's one that's allegedly live but I don't believe it is. Plus the official fake live one their label released.

  • @edljnehan2811
    @edljnehan2811 2 месяца назад +26

    I had Happy Trails by Quicksilver Messenger Service and thought it was really groundbreaking for the time😊

    • @Caligari...
      @Caligari... 2 месяца назад +3

      They recorded the Happy Trails album on you guessed it LSD baby

    • @edljnehan2811
      @edljnehan2811 2 месяца назад +1

      @Caligari... been there done that several times baby

    • @dave0267
      @dave0267 Месяц назад

      Amazon Album, my brother lived in Rochdale in Toronto when I first heard it, he also introduced me to Spirit

  • @cheechwizard60
    @cheechwizard60 2 месяца назад +23

    Forever Changes has been my favorite album since it's release in 1967. Love never got it's due, even the prior two albums were great. Arthur Lee was a great frontman, Johnny Echols was a very underrated guitar player, Ken Forssi was an excellent bassist.

    • @robomaster4882
      @robomaster4882 2 месяца назад +1

      Voted #1 album of all time by the British Parliament a few years back. Our Congress has never heard of them. Go figure. My #1 as well.

    • @josephesposito3499
      @josephesposito3499 2 месяца назад +1

      I saw love in 2009 also the genius who wrote the best song on forever changes was the blonde guy Brian Maclean he wrote that beauty 'alone again'

    • @robomaster4882
      @robomaster4882 2 месяца назад +1

      @@josephesposito3499Arthur died in 2006. Bryan in 1998. I think you saw "Baby Lemonade" billing themselves as Love. They were Arthur's backing band for the "Forever Changes" tours. Maybe with John Echols from Love. Bryan had a few good tunes but Arthur was the main writer. My pick on "Forever Changes" is the closing track, "You Set the Scene".

    • @cheechwizard60
      @cheechwizard60 2 месяца назад +1

      @@josephesposito3499 That song was one of the staples of my show. (When I used to do shows) When I was on facebook, I was friends with Johnny Echols.

    • @josephesposito3499
      @josephesposito3499 2 месяца назад

      @@cheechwizard60 Yes I saw Johnny Echols with Baby lemonade in 2009 in Fairfield CT. along with the electric prunes and the Blues Magoo's

  • @anttenna2009
    @anttenna2009 2 месяца назад +34

    How about Vanilla Fudge?

    • @garygomesvedicastrology
      @garygomesvedicastrology Месяц назад +2

      George Harrison reportedly played their first album repeatedly when he got it. At least they played the Ed Sullivan Show.

    • @markthomas9703
      @markthomas9703 Месяц назад +2

      I saw them accidentally when I was 11 while riding my bike at night I rode down the long driveway to the parking lot of the library and the were playing at a teen center in Hyde Park in Cincinnati. I heard them playing and I have a look to see and there they were a real rock band playing some velvet morning such good psychedelic music made me trip without drugs😊

    • @patricklemmon8260
      @patricklemmon8260 Месяц назад +1

      I remember liking their first album, but when I saw them live at the Fillmore they stunk.

    • @mc2mc277
      @mc2mc277 Месяц назад

      Great band of musicians. IMO, the biggest mistake was, their “originals” were not good. They wrote BRILLIANT arrangements for the cover songs they did but then their originals fell flat. They would have been better off putting new lyrics to the cover songs and claiming they were originals, since they were complete re-writes for the most part. GREAT offshoot bands, especially using the bass/drums rhythm section.

    • @garygomesvedicastrology
      @garygomesvedicastrology 29 дней назад

      ​​​@@mc2mc277I think their issue was timing. A lot of cover bands made it big. The Fudge were typed as psychedelic but I tend to view them as THE transitional band between psychedelic, jam and progressive. Their albums were templates for the Nice, Yes and even Led Zeppelin. They did manage to issue four albums, their last, Near the Beginning, was stunning and virtuosic but released when roots rock was hitting it big. About 80 percent of the first Led Zeppelin band were covers, but they were almost all credited to the band. And Vinny Martel was a good guitarist, but was not the focal point of the group. That was important as well. Bogert and Appice were stunning, Stein was undervalued as he was a great organist. The second album was definitely a prog album.
      Very underrated band. Song writing was pretty secondary until 1969, when jamming started to die out and people started wanting familiar forms. They also made a massive impact out of the gate...that momentum didn't work until 1969 or so, when LZ hit. VF hit just a bit too early.

  • @purplestuff
    @purplestuff 2 месяца назад +25

    Moby Grape was used as a punchline on Beavis and Butthead so I assumed they sucked. I finally decided to check them out and was blown away! They had some really great heavy blues rock.

    • @robomaster4882
      @robomaster4882 2 месяца назад +4

      The first album was great. Second was mostly ok but downhill as drugs and insanity set in with some members. They could have been big like the Eagles or CSN&Y. The sixties got the drug thing all wrong, unfortunately.

    • @jwoodrff
      @jwoodrff 2 месяца назад

      I had one of the thri albums. great band

    • @jpurs
      @jpurs Месяц назад

      Loretta Young, the actress from the 30s and 40s and TV star’s son was a founding member of Moby Grape. Peter Lewis

    • @jhgf-du8ub
      @jhgf-du8ub Месяц назад

      The Main Leader Got smme Bad Dope (acid) and rode a Mororcucle after leaviny Hospital in his Hospital Open Ass Back Clother from New Lork City to Florida where the Police (Florida Cops always Beat Hippys) they Florida Pigs almost Kill Him I mean Who want to live in Florida? The Governor is a War CRiminal and Donoldal Trump has Raced 35 Womens Trump is Raterm Max Catz Rapes Teen Age Children when Gatez was School Teacher. That is What Hatppen to Bodel Grape. Moby Greap I Mean.

    • @michaeldeliyanis3716
      @michaeldeliyanis3716 Месяц назад

      I bought their album after seeing them on TV

  • @Surreal_Wizard
    @Surreal_Wizard 2 месяца назад +18

    "SF Sorrow" was at the top of my personal playlist for a while- when I heard it playing in the background at a record store in the mid/late 1990s it was one of those "Gotta run over and buy it on the spot" type things. Outstanding album start to finish.

  • @jonncockrell3606
    @jonncockrell3606 Месяц назад +3

    These groups were pretty well known if you were around back then.

  • @TEXAS.N8V
    @TEXAS.N8V Месяц назад +5

    I noticed there’s footage of The Music Machine (black gloves) mixed with the electric prunes. The music machine was another one of those underground killers!!
    Great video thank you!!

  • @MyUltimateStuff
    @MyUltimateStuff Месяц назад +2

    Yall could do an entire hour on just the awesome psychedelic bands from TEXAS - including the ones that CREATED the word 'Pyschedelic' - the Thirteenth Floor Elevators.
    Others who should've been nationally famous:
    *Shiva's Head Band
    *Bubble Puppy
    *Red Krayola
    *Count Down 5
    *FEVER TREE
    *Neal Ford & the Fanatics
    *Moving Sidewalks - ohvyeah, they became ZZ Top!
    ❤❤❤
    - damnnit, there's others...
    All such great musicians, lyrics, songs of my life

  • @alexale6-qh2co
    @alexale6-qh2co Месяц назад +9

    Amon Duul II---Arzachel---Blues Magoos---Bloodrock---Butterfingers---Captain Beyond---Churchill's---Circus Maximus---Day Blindness---Dry Ice---Eden's Children---Fat Mattress---Fat Water---Five Day Week Straw People---Freedom---Friar Tuck & His Psychedelic Guitar---Freshwater---Ginhouse---Gomorrha--Heavy Balloon---Hamilton Streetcar---Green---Hurdy Gurdy---Jackal----Jericho---John Bassman Group---Jolliver Arkansaw---Kangaroo---Julius Victor---Killing Floor---Ladies W. C.---Laghonia---Leaf Hound---Les Goths---Les Rotomagus---Leviathan---Locomotive U.K.---Mad River---Marble Phrogg---Mary Butterworth---May Blitz---McCully Workshop Inc.---Mijal & White---Merriday Park---Mint Tattoo---Mike Curb & Larry Brown---Mountain---Mountain Bus---Orang-Utan---One Way Ticket (Time is Right)---Paper Garden---Peacepipe---Pendragon---Phluph---Positively Thirteen O'Clock---Probe---Pussy---Q65---Quatermass---Quo Vadis---i quit

    • @franksiegle7823
      @franksiegle7823 11 дней назад

      Wow! Some I have, but most of these are ones I've never heard of.

  • @insectsandanimals5535
    @insectsandanimals5535 2 месяца назад +12

    Great list ! Funny thing is, these are all common bands among psych collectors. BTW, that Music Machine clip was a screwup (not the Prunes)

  • @DexFlett
    @DexFlett 2 месяца назад +7

    SF Sorrow is one of the greatest albums ever. I still listen to it today. Pretty Things were awesome. My niece had a poster of the band in the late 60s, and I'd not heard of them, then she played me SF and I was hooked.

  • @bricefleckenstein9666
    @bricefleckenstein9666 Месяц назад +3

    I'm not sure the Alarm Clock belongs on here.
    They WERE at least a "one hit wonder" with "Incense and Peppermints".

  • @erict9020
    @erict9020 Месяц назад +2

    i would add Beacon Street Union, also part of the Boss Town sound along w/ Earth Opera. & then there's Country Joe & the Fish whose debut album Electric Music for the Mind & Body is still one on my favorite recordings ever. also, i might mention Celestial Voluptuous Banana from here in Ga.

    • @franksiegle7823
      @franksiegle7823 11 дней назад +1

      Yeah. I have those, too. Good groups. That CJ&TF album is one of my all time favorites.

  • @Robert-n3t3p
    @Robert-n3t3p 2 месяца назад +13

    Great you highlight The Pretty Things at the end. They made such gemstones between 1967 and 1970, like the singles Defecting Grey and Talking about the Goodtimes and their 2 album masterpieces S.F. Sorrow and Parachute!

    • @Spock105
      @Spock105 2 месяца назад +2

      @@Robert-n3t3p Yes...have parachute and SF on vinyl

    • @SpongeLab
      @SpongeLab 2 месяца назад +2

      They also did Soundtrack work as The Electric Banana, the second LP with songs from the movie "Whats Good For The Goose" is rather good, they even do a cameo in the film, I am sure it's here on youtube!

  • @frankcallo6630
    @frankcallo6630 2 месяца назад +13

    Quicksilver got a ton of airplay in Philadelphia ( well, at least Sweet Air) in WMMR until the late 7Os. Ultimate spinach was a band my folks turned me on to. USA I didn't really discover until about 5 years ago. Here is a band that wasn't on the list but was really wonderful, The Mandrake Memorial. Phila band, beautiful baroque rock from 68. Hard to find but really worth the search. Of course "It's A Beautiful Day" from San Francisco was wonderful with their hit "White Bird". Great bands, thanks for sharing.😊

    • @gajesh1087
      @gajesh1087 2 месяца назад +3

      @frankcallo6630: Your comment gave me a flood of memories of being a 16 year old under the blankets late at night with a transistor radio pressed to my ear listening to DJ Herman's The Marconi Experiment program on WMMR Phila Pa. That radio program turned me on to all the music featured in this video. I saw The Mandrake Memorial and bands such as Woody's Truck Stop and Sweet Stavin Chain ,The Nazz all were Philly hometown heros at the original Electric Factory. Your comment brought a smile to my now 71 years old face...thanks for the memories...Peace and Love all around!

    • @frankcallo6630
      @frankcallo6630 2 месяца назад +2

      @gajesh1087 71 huh, I'll be 60 next may. This was my parents' music really BUT, it really set the bar for what I needed and wanted from music.. It makes me sm8le to know it made you smile. Funny thinking that you are only 11 years older than m. but lived it what feels like a different time. Rock on friend.

    • @lilajagears8317
      @lilajagears8317 Месяц назад +1

      @@frankcallo6630 95.5 KLOS here in L.A. played a lot of Quicksilver as well. Like WMMR KLOS is still going strong with the same album rock format since 1969.

  •  2 месяца назад +17

    Don't forget Clear Light.

    • @robomaster4882
      @robomaster4882 2 месяца назад

      True. But one album and no hit singles doesn't help them get remembered.

    • @jameshafner1442
      @jameshafner1442 Месяц назад +2

      ​@@robomaster4882Elektra was blessed with Love, the Doors, and Clear Light. Too small to promote it all. And the Stooges, plus the MC5.

    • @robomaster4882
      @robomaster4882 Месяц назад

      @@jameshafner1442 Cutting edge label. They broke many new bands.

    • @Richard-ic3ix
      @Richard-ic3ix Месяц назад

      @@robomaster4882 2nd album was called Changing Hearts.

    • @robomaster4882
      @robomaster4882 Месяц назад +1

      @@Richard-ic3ix A second album? No record of it anywhere. Not Wikipedia, Discogs, or anywhere else. They may have been working on one but it was never released. But if you have a link to it I would love to hear it.

  • @Mopar46
    @Mopar46 Месяц назад +5

    Thought you might have mentioned "Pearls before Swine".

    • @franksiegle7823
      @franksiegle7823 11 дней назад

      Wonderful band. I have several albums, including one just by Rapp.

  • @XOXOX007
    @XOXOX007 2 месяца назад +14

    How can anyone discuss this without crediting LSD...

  • @cliffordhodge1449
    @cliffordhodge1449 2 месяца назад +18

    I would include Silver Apples and Morgen.

    • @franksiegle7823
      @franksiegle7823 11 дней назад

      Silver Apples, I have. Not Morgen, unfortunately, I guess.

  • @Titus9508
    @Titus9508 2 месяца назад +10

    Nice thing about the Psychedelic movement was that German musicians took it more seriously and ran with it up until the mid 70's, Amon Duul, Amon Duul II, Ahra Temple, Guru Guru...

    • @Niels133
      @Niels133 2 месяца назад +2

      Tanz der Lemmingen....

    • @ggrape0
      @ggrape0 2 месяца назад +1

      @@Niels133love all those, thanks for mentioning archangels thunderbird from lemming mania sounds like a really advanced jefferson airplane experience.

    • @bakeone4406
      @bakeone4406 Месяц назад

      For sure! several great German bands advanced and solidified what was largely only hinted at on most of the earlier psychedelic recordings. The Guru Guru/Kanguru album makes a good exhibit A.

  • @cliffordhodge1449
    @cliffordhodge1449 2 месяца назад +14

    I agree Love and S.F. Sorrow deserved much more acclaim.

  • @michaelallred3083
    @michaelallred3083 2 месяца назад +12

    Add in Fever Tree, Electric Flag and Peanut Butter Conspiracy.

    • @marstondavis
      @marstondavis Месяц назад

      Electric Flag is just flat out badass! Bloomfield just tares it up. Such sweet blues on his guitar intro on 'Another Country'.

    • @LarryMcNeely-me4px
      @LarryMcNeely-me4px 12 дней назад

      Peanut Butter Conspiracy played at my junior high dance. not exactly a band on their way up.

  • @drbluzer
    @drbluzer 2 месяца назад +8

    EKSEPTION was a Dutch group that never made it big in America but were a hit over
    in Europe ! Their first five albums went gold !

  • @l.salisbury1253
    @l.salisbury1253 2 месяца назад +9

    The MC5 belong on this list...

    • @ragingchimera8021
      @ragingchimera8021 2 месяца назад +1

      No, they don't.

    • @jwoodrff
      @jwoodrff 2 месяца назад +1

      Pretty good band, there, with some great moments. They were more mainstream, in my estimation.

    • @tpbrcombo
      @tpbrcombo 3 дня назад

      Then you don’t know what psychedelic means.

  • @dorariparia9262
    @dorariparia9262 2 месяца назад +7

    love all the bands in this video. They all left a precious legacy in their music.

    • @cjmacq-vg8um
      @cjmacq-vg8um 2 месяца назад +2

      nice list. a lot to comment on. in the mid-80s the chocolate watch band's original 3 albums became sought after collectors items rivaling original elvis and beatle albums in value. they had the distinction of appearing in the 1967 cult film "riot on sunset strip." (you showed a clip of that film.) similarly strawberry alarm clock appeared in russ meyer's cult classic 1970 film "beyond the valley of the dolls." they also appeared on hugh hefner's "playboy after dark" tv show.
      the band "united states of america" is connected to the band "joe byrd and the field hippies." byrd left the former and formed the latter releasing the exquisitly psychedelic "american metaphysical circus" album in 1969. like the yardbirds the pretty things were a british blues band formed by rolling stone co-founder dick taylor. both bands (also like the chocolate watch band) eventually mixed american r&b with psychedelia. and speaking of the yardbirds we have to mention their 1966 classic psychedelic album "roger the engineer." thanks for the video.

  • @lightsone2159
    @lightsone2159 2 месяца назад +16

    The main reason these bands didn't "make it big" when they came out is because of Top 40 AM radio. The stations wanted pap that was easy to listen to and dance to and only lasted a couple of minutes. If FM radio had been available and widespread back then, many of these bands would've had, probably, some bit of fame and record sales. It's hard to be popular when you haven't got a label that will give you money to record and tour. The bands that made it back then lived on the road for years. And some faded into the road, never to be heard from again.

    • @cjmacq-vg8um
      @cjmacq-vg8um 2 месяца назад +6

      yes, fm radio did a lot to promote more sophisticated, mature rock music. they played album tracks and longer songs perfect for the budding progressive rock scene. then idiot howard stern came along and turned fm radio into am crap.
      in the mid-80s the chocolate watch band's original 3 albums became sought after collectors items rivaling original elvis and beatle albums in value. they had the distinction of appearing in the 1967 cult film "riot on sunset strip." (he showed a clip of that film.) similarly strawberry alarm clock appeared in russ meyer's cult classic 1970 film "beyond the valley of the dolls." they also appeared on hugh hefner's "playboy after dark" tv show.
      the band "united states of america" is connected to the band "joe byrd and the field hippies." byrd left the former and formed the latter releasing the exquisitly psychedelic "american metaphysical circus" album in 1969. like the yardbirds the pretty things were a british blues band formed by rolling stone co-founder dick taylor. both bands (also like the chocolate watch band) eventually mixed american r&b with psychedelia. and speaking of the yardbirds we have to mention their 1966 classic psychedelic album "roger the engineer."

    • @lightsone2159
      @lightsone2159 2 месяца назад +2

      @@cjmacq-vg8um I love(d) the Yardbirds. But I was young and didn't have a job or sympathetic parents, so anything like these bands mentioned in this video were out of my reach.

    • @wyliesmith4244
      @wyliesmith4244 2 месяца назад +3

      '67 marked the transition of 'serious' rock releases from singles (mono and less than 3 minutes) to albums (FM free form radio started with no self-described hipster djs nor program directors to limit song selection to a small number of songs, and longer tunes received airplay). Singles were often targeted for young teens (bubblegum, etc), but albums were for a slightly (?) older audience that had followed the Beatles since their US debut in '64. Bands like SAC got caught in between when a hit single made them unhip in the eyes of Rolling Stone and other judgmental magazines/critics. Same for the Prunes.
      And sales figures were still low as few had stereo systems yet while FM radio was still a niche market with college stations (10 watts maybe) still being the only FM stations outside of the BIG cities.
      In other words, great comment - and the best, almost only, way to see mid-level bands was at a college then.

    • @082207
      @082207 2 месяца назад

      Pop

    • @brutallyremastered4255
      @brutallyremastered4255 Месяц назад

      I don't understand the relevance of the difference between AM & FM radio...

  • @lancewalker1999
    @lancewalker1999 2 месяца назад +10

    Add Lothar & The Hand People

  • @deweygill1973
    @deweygill1973 Месяц назад +5

    Why is there a Music Machine clip introducing the Prunes?

  • @TZ61
    @TZ61 2 месяца назад +4

    Great list here. I only just caught up with The United States of America and Kaleidoscope in the last year or two and have to check out West Coast Pop Art Experimental Band. Great upload.

  • @robertrobertsakarogerslemer
    @robertrobertsakarogerslemer 2 месяца назад +4

    Ultimate Spinach, Fever Tree, Love, Peanut Butter Conspiracy, Help Yourself, Kaleidoscope, they were ambitious, innovative, intricate arrangements, excellent vocal arrangements. For me it's almost a mystery that these bands didn't achieve a better fate. The main reason these bands didn't "make it" when they first came out is because of Top 40 AM radio. Broadcasters wanted pop that was easy to listen to and dance to and only lasted a few minutes. And people like to sing songs that are easy to memorize. At that time, no one had a form of popularization except FM radio and specialized newspapers and magazines. If FM radio had been available and widespread at that time, many of these bands would probably have had a bit of fame and record sales.

    • @franksiegle7823
      @franksiegle7823 11 дней назад

      I''m glad you mention Kalidescope, (U.S. I presume.). First albums were fantastic.

  • @johnmitchelljr
    @johnmitchelljr 2 месяца назад +5

    Great video. Moby grape was too much of a good thing. Great video, thanks.

    • @gregholmes1289
      @gregholmes1289 2 месяца назад +3

      Six singles on the charts at one time!

  • @stevevaughn2040
    @stevevaughn2040 2 месяца назад +5

    I was thrown, specifically Quick Silver Messenger, Moby Grape, and Love.
    Love was likely the best LA band, I was in San Francisco area. Their first album came out at the same time as The Doors album and all promo went to the Doors.

  •  2 месяца назад +9

    Also the American band Kaleidoscope.

    • @wyliesmith4244
      @wyliesmith4244 2 месяца назад +2

      Who are pictured a couple of times ?!?

    • @GeorgeBecos
      @GeorgeBecos 2 месяца назад

      Dam right man!!!

    • @ggrape0
      @ggrape0 2 месяца назад

      Great, I love the album with the song please

  • @SmittySmith-lu9bh
    @SmittySmith-lu9bh Месяц назад +1

    What is the "Music Machine" doing mixed in with the "Electric Prunes"? They were two totally different bands.

  • @lancelot6011
    @lancelot6011 2 месяца назад +3

    I wouldn’t say the Grateful Dead “soared to mainstream success”

    • @vir2ul1
      @vir2ul1 23 дня назад

      Right. It goes to show that this video wasn’t made by anyone who actually understands the topic.

  • @kensolar69
    @kensolar69 Месяц назад +2

    Quicksilver ? They had 4 singles and 6 albums that charted top 100. 4 albums hit the mid 20's.
    They headlined stadiums and arenas for years. Years of solid radio play. .. What do you consider 'BIG' ?

  • @paulwhiston1836
    @paulwhiston1836 2 месяца назад +7

    No 13th Floor Elevators

    • @jwoodrff
      @jwoodrff 2 месяца назад +3

      That is exactly my critique. Can't talk Psychedelic without talking Elevators. Also, the first time I ever saw the term "Heavy Metal" in Priont was,I think, Chet Helm in Rolling Stone talking about the Elevators.

  • @rolandomartinez9076
    @rolandomartinez9076 Месяц назад +1

    Maybe u never heard of them but real fans really appreciated these under rated bands.
    Bands came and went. Changed members. Lots of factors.

  • @holgerjagd-s1j
    @holgerjagd-s1j 2 месяца назад +3

    I used to listen a lot to The West Coast Pop Art Experimental Band and Electric Prunes in the sixties. And Love of course were fantastic.

  • @michaelpeck8312
    @michaelpeck8312 Месяц назад +1

    I had at least 7 of these bands on vinyl in the 60s. I saw a few of them too. Quicksilver and Moby Grape were the best IMO.

  • @marvinchase4899
    @marvinchase4899 Месяц назад +1

    Quicksilver Messenger Service: I bought their Shady Grove Lp and I rem seeing them in "Last Days of the Fillmore" video

  • @adamparker2754
    @adamparker2754 8 дней назад

    I love it Bands that never made it.Good stuff , a little story behind the scenes

  • @noname-ll2vk
    @noname-ll2vk 2 месяца назад +6

    To not put the 13th Floor Elevators at number one by a mile shows this guy has no idea what real psychedelic music is. But musicians ever since have known this, which is why they're so heavily influential decade after decade. Which is all that matters.
    The other bands are interesting although some really were simply one hit wonders where the hit was by far the best song on the album. Which is why they didn't go anywhere.
    Quicksilver was a fantastic live band but when they added Dino on vocals it didn't work. Happy Trails remains one of the best documents of live 60s San Fransisco underground psychedelia ever released. It was taken from a series of live shows. You can get all the live shows if you look and reassemble that multinight run of shows. Quicksilver got the exact right amount of respect they earned and so really don't belong on this list.

    • @jwoodrff
      @jwoodrff 2 месяца назад

      This is correct. I am very familiar with most of these bands. I had their albums and listened to them for hours.

  • @Spock105
    @Spock105 2 месяца назад +6

    Kaleidoscope US is also a contender , as there is Earth & Fire from Holland or PMF from Italy.

    • @Niels133
      @Niels133 2 месяца назад +2

      Earth and Fire's Song of the marchin' children❤ Lots and lots of mellotron.

    • @Spock105
      @Spock105 2 месяца назад

      @Niels133 Yep...have the album on vinyl

  • @SpongeLab
    @SpongeLab 2 месяца назад +7

    The Electric Prunes are only on their first two LPs, the Canadian group Collectors replaced them after that, it wasn't their choice, but that of their management and compser David Axelrod, It was pretty much the same storey for the Chocolate Watch Band except they had management using tunes by session guys on their first LP and half their second LP was by a group of session guys too. Very sad as both groups were very good

    • @wyliesmith4244
      @wyliesmith4244 2 месяца назад +4

      The Prunes also have a live in Stockholm album ("Stockholm 1967") that shows that they could recreate their sound live. The band did not want it released at the time, but it is a strong record with better song selection than the first album. Their fifth album, "Just Good Old & Roll," is generic, mediocre r & r. The band member on the left in the cover shot is Scott Morgan who joined the West Coast Pop Art Experimental Band after WCPAEB's first Reprise album. (and why is there a picture of Scott with two other members of the WCPAEB in the middle of the Ultimate Spinach segment? And a different shot later? And two clips of the Music machine. Some poor editing here. And then there is the cover of the Left Banke's first album short, but superb, a classic of 'baroque pop.'
      Bad management seems to be a theme here. Matthew Katz owned the name 'Moby Grape' - and 'It's a Beautiful Day' as well - which prevented their albums being reissued. Moby Grape finally got their name back circa 2000 and Sundazed issued excellent CDs of the Columbia albums, only to have them pulled from the market because Katz 'owned' the cover rights. Alan Lorber ran the Bosstown Sound and drove leader Ian Bruce-Douglas, and all but one of the other members, out of the group. Stay away from Spinach #3, though it was my introduction to Jeff 'Skunk' Baxter. The WCPAEB was bankrolled by Bob Markley who took over the group, and he caused most of the creative members to quit. "WCPAEB" Part One" is their best work in the minds/reviews of most.
      But in the end it allom all comes down to personal taste, and you reminded me to break out some great stuff. Thanks!

    • @charleschauffe5884
      @charleschauffe5884 2 месяца назад +2

      'Underground' album by the Prunes one of my all time favorites👍

    • @wyliesmith4244
      @wyliesmith4244 2 месяца назад +1

      @@charleschauffe5884 I surely cannot disagree with that statement. 'The Great Banana Hoax' was great (in late '66 - '67 folks were smoking banana peels to get high, but Donovan said he wrote the song about a yellow vibrator), but 'I' stands out to me as quiet, moody - and well-played like all prunes material. may I say great personal taste?

  • @taylorkingston1408
    @taylorkingston1408 Месяц назад +1

    Some of the footage purporting to be of the Electric Prunes is actually the Music Machine performing their hit "Talk Talk" (1966).

  • @RATCLIFFE-LISTENS
    @RATCLIFFE-LISTENS Месяц назад +2

    Moby Grape Three Lead Guitarists 5 part harmonies All great Writers , Did 5?Columbia Lps 1 Warner Lp 20 Granite Creek Produced by David Robinson. GuitarPlayer Jerry Miller one of Rolling Stones Top All Tome Guitarists. Skip Spence played Drums with the Airplane and left to join the Grape on Guitar. Major Hit Omaha written by Spence. Beautiful Deep Baritone Voice was Peter Lewis who was Movie Star Loretta Young’s Son.
    THE GROUP WERE HUGE INFLUENCES OF LED ZEPPLIN PAGE&PLANTS FAVORITE. THEY OPENED THE MOVIE MONTEREY POP!
    THE FIRST LP IS 100% FLAWLESS.

  • @JerryCarr909
    @JerryCarr909 2 месяца назад +23

    Where is HP Lovecraft . Bay Area band

    • @CherrySlush1
      @CherrySlush1 2 месяца назад +2

      Actually a Chicago band though they did move to the Bay area.

    • @JerryCarr909
      @JerryCarr909 2 месяца назад +1

      @@CherrySlush1 thanks. I loved the 2 albums that i had back in the early 70's

    • @wyliesmith4244
      @wyliesmith4244 2 месяца назад +1

      @@CherrySlush1 Sundazed put out a CD, "Live - May 11, 1968," that was recorded in the Bay Area, but the band was originally from Chicago. And when drummer Michael Tegza formed a splinter group, Lovecraft - not HP Lovecraft, , he had members of Chicago bands Aorta and the Buckinghams as the other musicians.

    • @derfzus1040
      @derfzus1040 Месяц назад +2

      I searched far and wide back in the late 80's for HP Lovecraft II, which a record archives store in Pittsburgh was able to find for me and I still have it. With Mobius Trip, Spin Spin Spin, Nothings Boy, Keeper of the Keys, and Mountains of Madness, it's my most treasured album of all time!!

    • @JerryCarr909
      @JerryCarr909 Месяц назад +2

      @@derfzus1040 I have the first 2 LPs. H P Lovecraft 1968 and aslo H P 2 1968. Both are great.

  • @lilajagears8317
    @lilajagears8317 2 месяца назад +11

    What about the Youngbloods?

    • @jwoodrff
      @jwoodrff 2 месяца назад +1

      Beautiful band, not psychedelic. their big hit could stand some airtime today.

    • @ROGER2095
      @ROGER2095 Месяц назад +3

      @@jwoodrff Darkness, Darkness would fit in well with other pyschedelic records.

    • @vir2ul1
      @vir2ul1 23 дня назад +1

      I don’t think one can say they never made it big. “Get Together” charted #5 in the U.S. and was an anthem for my generation in the late 60s.

  • @franksiegle7823
    @franksiegle7823 11 дней назад

    I have all of 'em. Great groups! Thanks.

  • @HeavyTripHaze
    @HeavyTripHaze 2 месяца назад +4

    Some of these bands are better then what was mainstream in the 60s

  • @scottjohnson9159
    @scottjohnson9159 2 месяца назад +5

    Aphrodities Child deserves mention

  • @garygomesvedicastrology
    @garygomesvedicastrology Месяц назад +2

    Music Machine definitely belongs on this list; so does Family from the UK. Family's stage show was so extraordinary that Hendrix didn't want to follow them on stage.

  • @Wiencourager
    @Wiencourager Месяц назад +1

    Another band missed on this video is The Misunderstood, songs like Children of the sun and I can take you to the sun are amazing and way ahead of thier time

  • @martinsplichal1581
    @martinsplichal1581 Месяц назад

    Good list. I own many of these albums. You showed the unmentioned Music Machine in the Electric Prunes segment doing the song Talk Talk. Both are are great.

  • @zeljkofatzek3670
    @zeljkofatzek3670 2 месяца назад +3

    You can make a beautiful alternate history of rock music just by "underground" artists (or one hit wonders).

  • @victorhawkins3461
    @victorhawkins3461 5 дней назад

    I'm old enough that I played all but one band -- West Coast Pop Art Experimental Band -- on free-form FM radio back in the 70s...including The Pretty Things.

  • @jeffthevideoguy23
    @jeffthevideoguy23 Месяц назад +2

    So Freak Out and Sgt Pepper weren't concept albums until SF Sorrow was released after them? Ok.

    • @vir2ul1
      @vir2ul1 23 дня назад

      You’re right and it’s one of many idiotic statements made in this video.

    • @franksiegle7823
      @franksiegle7823 11 дней назад

      Yes to both, but were they genuinely Psychedelic? But, yeah, they were first.

  • @Larkinchance
    @Larkinchance Месяц назад +1

    I left LA in 1969, AM radio had just died and was replaced with FM that played the long version of "Like a Rolling Stone" and "Light My Fire"...
    When I got to the East Coast, they were still listening to "The Archies" on AM
    I always liked the "Incredible String Band"
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  • @gregholmes1289
    @gregholmes1289 2 месяца назад +1

    In the S.F. Bay Area there was also Mad River and the Loading Zone, both of whose albums I have. Then there was the New Breed from Sacramento, who did "Green Eyed Woman", which got local airplay. One of their members, George the drummer, was in my Economics class at American River College. Another of their members, Timothy B. Schmidt, went on to become the Eagles' bassist.

    • @franksiegle7823
      @franksiegle7823 11 дней назад

      The first two bands I have in my collection. I might have a New Breed tune in a compilation. I'd have to check.

  • @gowensbach2998
    @gowensbach2998 Месяц назад

    Well, I did hear some new bands, so thank you. I love that old psychedelic stuff.

  • @Ted_James
    @Ted_James 2 месяца назад +4

    Good list. Tangerine Dream? (8:20). The Music Machine clip was out of place. They should be included in this list.

    • @wyliesmith4244
      @wyliesmith4244 2 месяца назад +3

      In case it is not clear, "Tangerine Dream" was an album title, not the German synth group.

  • @rondesantis8618
    @rondesantis8618 2 месяца назад +5

    Most of these groups are on my play list! 😂

    • @ggrape0
      @ggrape0 2 месяца назад

      Mine too! Know many details about almost all of them

  • @lamontprospect9974
    @lamontprospect9974 Месяц назад

    Very interesting documentary.
    🕊️❤️🙏

  • @harvey3rdman464
    @harvey3rdman464 2 месяца назад +6

    Captain Beyond.

    • @wyliesmith4244
      @wyliesmith4244 2 месяца назад +2

      While I can't listen to their album too much, it did come out in 1972, years after the bands listed. But DEFINITELY worth a listen.

    • @jimfritz2087
      @jimfritz2087 2 месяца назад

      A 1000 days of yesterday ......

  • @olddoggeleventy2718
    @olddoggeleventy2718 Месяц назад +1

    I had an Ultimate Spinach album. When you opened it, there was a huge spinach plant on the inside and outside of the jacket. It was quite trippy and fun. My friends didn't like it very much, and I didn't care much for their Hot Tuna album.

  • @henkhor-pi5bm
    @henkhor-pi5bm 2 месяца назад +2

    Ik vind het een zeer goede opsomming van psychedelische groepen . Ik ken ze allemaal en sommige zijn echt fantastisch. Love had bij leven al wereld beroemd moeten zijn . Een paar mensen zoals ik kende die groep al vanaf de eerste LP . Ik zag die LP vanwege die hoes foto en begon het te beluisteren . Pretty things zijn altijd wel goed geweest maar het lukte ze gewoon niet om bij de tijd te blijven . Of ze waren te vroeg of weer te laat met iets om een goede concurrent te zijn .

  • @travismiles5885
    @travismiles5885 2 месяца назад +1

    There was a classic rock station that went on the air when I was a kid in the late 8Os in Detroit that would play a lot of obscure classic bands like Quicksilver Messenger Service. That's where I first heard them. The station eventually phased that stuff out and played the more popular classic rock stuff. Then that fateful day came when I was home on leave and they were still a classic rock station but playing GnR and other bands that from my youth. That's when I realized I was old. 😂

  • @franksiegle7823
    @franksiegle7823 11 дней назад

    I have to mention three bands from my home state of Kansas: The Blue Things, The Wizards, and The Morning Dew. Unfortunately I only have "The Wizards from Kansas." The Morning Dew is too expensive for me now, but I have the Wizards album, and if you find it, I recommend it.

  • @gregorygermann5975
    @gregorygermann5975 2 месяца назад +5

    Bubble puppy- hot smoke and sassafras.

  • @davidkean1487
    @davidkean1487 Месяц назад +1

    How about Take me to the river, by The Damnation of Adam Blessing!

  • @donkick2622
    @donkick2622 Месяц назад

    Hip Death Goddess! Saw US open for Vanilla Fudge at The Schaefer Music Concerts (NYC) in 1968. Trippy!

  • @GraceletswithBillFaris-ng9cy
    @GraceletswithBillFaris-ng9cy Месяц назад +1

    John Cipollina remains my favorite guitarist ever. Quicksilver forever!

    • @geraldzuckier
      @geraldzuckier 22 дня назад

      When you see him play, his fretting fingers never stop moving, constant tremolo

  • @tinusvandermerwe6433
    @tinusvandermerwe6433 18 дней назад

    The Pretty Things album Parachute was rated as the top album in 1972. They aslo released Silk Torpedoes, Rage before Beauty, and many others. In my opinion a great band.

  • @mc2mc277
    @mc2mc277 Месяц назад

    Decent List…I usually thing most “lists” SUCK. Nice job, especially #1 and the bonus.I spent over a decade as a top FM radio DJ and decades in music.

  • @RickMason-yj7pv
    @RickMason-yj7pv Месяц назад +1

    Fresh Air, with Nicky Hopkins on keys.

  • @JohnMcCleary-tg5qi
    @JohnMcCleary-tg5qi Месяц назад +1

    Another one that didn't get any love was Minnesota's The Litter!

    • @franksiegle7823
      @franksiegle7823 11 дней назад

      They were good. There's another MN band I have, but I 'd have to check.

  • @josephliptak
    @josephliptak 13 дней назад

    How about the 13th Floor Elevators? This band did some great psychedelic rock. Also, the Syn with their song 14-Hour Technicolour Dream

  • @neilturner6865
    @neilturner6865 2 месяца назад +1

    Great magic bands 🍄🍄

  • @Glenrsi
    @Glenrsi 2 месяца назад +2

    Five bands mentioned are worth their salt. As for the others, they are best forgotten.

  • @sslaytor
    @sslaytor 2 месяца назад +2

    Excellent though they may be - neither S. F. Sorrow nor Tommy are rock operas. An opera is a story told through music and performed like play with multiple performers. S. F. Sorrow and Tommy are oratorios, a story told via songs but with a static group of performers belting out the tunes! Hallelujah! The movie of Tommy might qualify as it features different singers for each role, but as originally written it did not.

    • @franksiegle7823
      @franksiegle7823 11 дней назад

      Of course you are right. Probably the first true Rock opera is "Jesus Christ, Superstar. Didn't like the movie really, but a touring company my wife and i saw last January did a very credible job with it.

  • @skoob-kq7ms
    @skoob-kq7ms 2 месяца назад +2

    No mention of The 13th Floor Elevators ? The Elevators were the first band to refer to their music as psychedelic rock, with the first-known use of the term appearing on their business card in January 1966.

  • @BCSJRR
    @BCSJRR 2 месяца назад +2

    Where is The Clear Light with their very '60s Mr. Blue (we've got our eyes on you...)

  • @harvey3rdman464
    @harvey3rdman464 2 месяца назад +1

    Fore some other interesting LP's of that era that you may not have heard or be familiar I'd like to recommend two from the top of my list of forgotten psychedelic masterpieces: 1] *Giles, Giles & Fripp* ~ _"The Cheerful Insanity of…"_ and 2] *McGough & McGear*
    A lot of weird stuff was going on in studios back then.

  • @steventodd3467
    @steventodd3467 2 месяца назад +1

    Judging from the pictures, there seems to be some confusion between the US band Kalaidoscope and the British one. 🤔

  • @Hansaman58
    @Hansaman58 2 месяца назад

    I actually saw The Pretty Things in concert while in high school in Heidelberg, Germany in December 1975. They appeared with Kraan and Curved Air, and Golden Earring.

  • @billfreeland5489
    @billfreeland5489 Месяц назад

    Even more hidden yet still influential I am sure was Hamilton Streetcar, which did Flash with flip side Invisible People which 2 I preferred most.

  • @davida2111
    @davida2111 2 месяца назад +3

    What about Hawkwind and The Pink Fairies ?

    • @MrPjalex
      @MrPjalex Месяц назад

      Space rock bigger in the 70s

    • @vectionnoitcev2836
      @vectionnoitcev2836 Месяц назад

      Hawkwind released quite a few albums of which I bought at least 4 or 5 of them. The first one I considered to be their best, the follow up albums were too derivative to be considered evolutionary. Because of that I eventually lost interest in them. While I agree with you, they had too many albums in circulation at the time to be considered unknown.