poke go is great tho. the rare times when you do spawn a vis he can absolutely destroy bosses and is a decent room clearer, all the while he rarely gets damaged by enemies.
PentaHybrid I don't think it can spawn ANY non-boss enemy as so far, I've always gotten a vis within 5-6 spawns, but I do see your point. I don't think its an amazing item, but I do believe the fact alone that you get to keep the charmed enemies from room to room and they can't hurt you unlike regular charmed enemies should be enough to not be on this list. now, the finger on the other hand (pun not intended), THAT is an item worth making it on this list. but hey, its your list buddy, not mine.
PentaHybrid but its SO minimal. though to be fair its a useful item for, say, the lost. just hide on a rock and let the finger chip your enemies to death.
The tonsils are part of the body's immune system. Because of their location at the throat and palate, they can stop germs entering the body through the mouth or the nose. The tonsils also contain a lot of white blood cells, which are responsible for killing germs. In other words your tonsils were only useless because your immune system is inferior to other people's.
My personal worst item is an item called "crying makes me fart" Dont know the actual name but this item spawns a fart cloud randomly when shooting. Its stationary and when it does hit something( 1/1000 chance to make a difference) It does mediocre dmg. Guess beans have never been good in isaac, butter bean, the bean, black bean, giga bean, wait..what!, and this bean added to ab+ are all items that i would reroll any time any where.
Arthur Pinna and depression is a headless baby that shoot some times *HOLY WHITE FUCKING DEATH* shoots (know the light beams that Isaac, conquest and etc shoots? The name of this attack is holy death. But I prefer calling it *HOLY WHITE FUCKING DEAAATH!!!*)
Tonsil is basically Farting Baby. No use other than blocking shots (I know farting baby farts too, but when does that ever help), but since it just follows you like a normal familiar, it's easy to position. If you can get Tonsil, Farting Baby, Dry Baby, and BFFs, you're nearly immune to projectiles, especially if you get King Baby to help with the positioning even more. In other words, if you're headed to Hush, grab Tonsil and use a blood donation machine or two. You really can't complain too much about a Dry/Farting Baby without the extra effects.
If you have the tonsil trinket and duct tape at the same time (mom's purse, smelter, etc.) and a tonsil spawns, when you pick it up, the tonsil will be stuck directly on you, making you essentially immune to tears.
Something I always find interesting about Isaac is just how amazingly subjective the items are. Even the most USUALLY hated items can still be something that some players really like and will grab often. For me, stuff like Soy Milk or Tiny Planet fit that bill. It's like Edmund said, there's just a million different playstyles in this game. I'm glad to see that they keep the items as varied as they do, for that reason. Niche items are just as important to a game like this as widely-loved things like Brimstone (and even that is subjective, I've run into players that hate Brimstone... which rather baffles me, but I figure, if they dont like it, well, that's up to them).
I agree with the list, but one mentioned item..... "Poke Go" It seems it spawns only several enemies around 7-8 different kinds of them, which if you get "Vis", it obliterates even bosses. It doesn't seem by any means to be pretty bad, but hey opinions and what not. I do respect'em. ;)
The only reason I like the Depression item was my reaction, a newcomer to the Binding of Isaac who had just bought Rebirth along with both mods, picking up "Depression. :(" I laughed really hard. I soon realized it was pretty much garbage, but I liked having it around for the shits and giggles.
Dad's lost coin it's just another Mom's pearl but with a penny and it must be unlocked by killing ultra greedier with the lost (i know it gives you a penny and...that's it)
dank machine Antibirth for it's mechanics and vision. But Afterbirth+ overall for scope. The ability to have your fans carry on the legacy is wonderful even if the game suffered from issues.
PentaHybrid I tottaly agree but also in my opinion antibirth has alot of game changing item and even more synergys in fact I'm playing antibirth right now
DoppelDragon - Butters But the Butter Bean isn't new. So it doesn't count for the list. And Butter Bean is much better than most people give it credit.
In my opinion, the tonsil is good. It's a less effective Dry Baby, as it helps with things such as the Isaac and Blue Baby fight, because you can stand behind it. Other than that, I agree pretty much with everything else.
Zombie1Kenobi I don't consider an item good for that reason. Especially due to the fact that those strategies make the game boring. I prefer dodging. But I'm glad someone enjoys it.
Tonsil+Isaacs Heart= Harder to be damaged, if you have king baby and flight, you can fly on a rock and start firing and issacs heart (and tonsil) will be standing there safe from almost all attacks and enemies other than flies.
Wow, a lot of familiars on the list. I do think there were a few items that could've been on the list, like: Big chubby (fot the lower damage and speed compared to lil' chubby), and some of the unlockable items: Hushy (just contact damage. He blocks tears, at least), dad's lost coin ( not a lot of range up + a luck up), dark princes crown (this is by no mean a bad item, but the requirement for it is precisely 1 heart, that gives a small stats up), delirious (kind of a let down for a 12 bar active item, plus if it spawns into a boss that spawns monsters, those are not friendly, which will make the room significantly harder). LIke I said, these are not bad items, but the fact that they are unlockables makes it worse, because I have to complet a run with a certain character, and the reward is mediocre at best. Ex: dad's lost coin. You have to beat Greedier mode with The Lost..... It may be an unpopular opinion, but I usually don't do some of the unlockables for this reason. I'd rather not have some of them in my item pool.
Cosmin Madox Well to give a short response. Not all unlockable have always been good. And most veteran Isaac players don't know what the unlocks are until they get them. More power to those who look up what they need to unlock, but that runs the fun and drive to complete the game.
character idea! it leaves green creep behind,poisons enemies on touch has a serpents kiss effect and is immune to spikes and can't be damaged by curse doors. but cant gain transformations and it's sprite never changes to show its items, so without the his, you can forget was you have, and you also take more tear damage but less contact damage. why all these effects? he is made of pure poison creep, but it does have white eyes...
I just started playing this game and I love it, I had heard how good it was but I thought it looked to simple. Until I played it, what a masterpiece this game is, thank you so much for making these videos they have helped me a lot with understanding this game.
As I've stated before "I've already announced before that Greed Mode isn't a factor in my writing, as I don't play the mode once the unlocks are done. It's boring and mostly unfun."
I think Large Zit deserves to be on here, not only is it disgusting to look at, the creep puddle is very small and has little use. Maybe if you had the trinket that increases creep size it'd be semi useful...
King baby paired with duck tape and Isaac's heart can give you infinite invincibility by dropping duck tape at one corner of a huge room then leading King baby and making him stay in the opposite corner then picking up duck tape. Now you just need to stay anywhere but the corner you picked up duck tape in.
What was the worse guppy's hairball comment supposed to mean? The hairball is a top tier item when fighting bullet spam like Isaac, Blue Baby, Gurdy, etc. and the fact a trinket can give you two admittedly slightly worse versions of that item means a lot especially with bffs.
In my opinion, the worst item is magnetic tears. Don't know if its a new item or not, but that thing is straight up dangerous, making enemies react sporadically towards your shots.
To me, the worst item is the Feels Like I'm Walking on Sunshine pill. The "I'm Excited!!!" pill is annoying, but that's okay, pills are always positive or negative. But Feels Like I'm Walking on Sunshine is pointless. it makes you invincible like Power Pill, and increase your speed a little while its in effect, but also deals no damage when hitting into enemies. I have never been in a situation where that speed increase would've made any difference whatsoever. I can't even imagine a situation where it would.
+etherraichu You can actually get some good use out of it if you have a good damaging orbital, just like how you can be really overpowered with unicorn stump.
I think dataminer and depression are not bad items, I understand why you put both on the list, but as my own personal vision are good and fun items:3, awesome video, I loved it :D
I mean, I dont wanna be a cringey kid, but what you gonna do 8) Tonsil is shit, but it's a trinket. It can be really useful with duck tape (if you summoned both), BFF, or with any tanky run that hasn't got a trinket. The trinket sucks overall, but better then bat wing, which should be 100% to give flight on hit or low chance to give it permanently.
David Macher Tonsil is an item spawned from the trinket. That was the focus of the video. the trinket sucks as well via the associative property of shit. Lol
I quite like tonsil. free item that does not take up in any treasure rooms, boss room, shop, devil deal, or angel deals. its place can be steered as I want, and it can save be hard on issac/???/hush fight.
Bob's Rotten Brain may not be an Afterbirth item but it is my absolute most hated item. I have been killed by it so many times that I outright ignore it nowadays, even if I could get it for a transformation.
So, it pretty easy to remain at one red heart and just fill up with sin and soul hearts. It's an item that raised three stats. Far better than many others.
The struggle to keep it active isn't worth the stat increases, especially considering that two of the three stats don't matter too much in most cases. I'd much rather have any other 2 heart devil deal item.
Good to see the Tonsil torn down rightfully. It really is the only item in the game to do nothing for any build out there. I might have my grievances with certain items. Dead Cat's been the most consistent game-killer for me, Tiny Planet *almost* does no build's job better than just about anything else in the game (that is, if the Tiny Planet/Soy Milk/Lost Contact trio didn't exist) and Bob's Brain, lovable fuck as it is, might be a bit of a safety-hazard, but all of them have workarounds and when they shine, they're game-breakers. Things the Tonsil can never do.
I've yet to run into Sacred Heart once. 121 hours in, you'd think the thing would decide to show itself every once in a while. I really do hate those kinds of ultra-rare items. Douchebags like Sacred Heart, Brimstone, Godhead and whatnot. Yeah, they might be amazingly good items and are gonna carry the game when you get them, but they're such fickle fucks to grow any attachment to and will always just appear at the tail-end of a doomed run anyway, mocking you as you've internalized your defeat. Meanwhile, it's the loyal, working-class items like Mom's Contact and Dead Eye that carried me through shit like Onan's Streak. Although Greed mode is something that is great to just break the game in. I just wish the journey towards the Keeper wasn't such an abominable slog without cheap exploits.
There are so many items that would make for good *_CHALLENGING_* challenges Telepathy + blindfold Shade + blindfold (would require something to do ranged damage somehow though) Something with tech zero
the problem is that it looks like ed ran out of ideas. Tonsil could've been that super difficult item to get that has awesome effects, but sadly, it's just a bad Dry baby.
I've already announced before that Greed Mode isn't a factor in my writing, as I don't play the mode once the unlocks are done. It's boring and mostly unfun.
How is Plan C not the #1 worst item? Sure, it deals enough damage to kill anything in the game in one shot, but then you croak three seconds later, and often bosses take longer than three seconds to die, meaning you can't use it to cheese a quick end to a run against ??? or The Lamb. Also, most respawn items set you in the previous room, and until a boss explodes & all their minions are dead too and the way out/Devil or Angel Rooms/chest is revealed they aren't considered dead yet, meaning you just wasted a respawn to simply fight the boss over again. The *ONLY* respawn item that gets around this is Lazarus' Rags, which respawns you as Lazarus II in the same room you died, and is the same as Lazarus' built-in extra life. About the only way this is truly useful is if you really need to do a Lazarus unlock but utterly suck at playing him, so you do the run as someone else then Plan C/Laz Rag to Lazarus in the Cathedral/Sheol/Chest/Dark Room/Mega Satan/Void boss fight. I mean, if Algiz/Chariot would let you tank the insta-death, even if it means something like leaving you with only half a heart left like Glass Cannon does once the i-frames ended, this wouldn't be so bad.
One comment on your list - Brown Nugget is actually really useful in Greed Mode. It is pretty useless in the normal game though. Now, here are my 10 worst new items. Items that differ from your list are in *asterisks*. #10 - *Hushy*. More than anything, I'm just disappointed. What kind of Hush can't fire projectiles? A Hush Baby should be something impressive, but it's really not. #9 - *Backstabber*. Bleed Damage just isn't that good. #8 - *Dad's Lost Coin*. Luck is nice, I guess but... Meh. #7 - Poke Go. Neat idea, but not particularly helpful. #6 - *Dark Prince's Crown*. Not worth 2 hearts and extremely limited usage. #5 - Mom's Razor. Yeah. Everything you said. #4 - *Compost*. There are a lot of better ways to get spider/flies without losing pickups. #3 - King Baby. Everyone keeps saying it might have a use... I have yet to hear of that use. Even if it exists, it's so limited it's not worth bothering. #2 - *Delirious*. Why is a super-rare 12-charge item about as powerful as Shoop Da Whoop, a common 2-charge? Just compare it to the other super-rare 12-charge weapon, Mega Blast. Delirious can't even hold a Red Candle to Mega. #1 - *Linger Bean*. Need I say more?
My comment from the comment section - "I've already announced before that Greed Mode isn't a factor in my writing, as I don't play the mode once the unlocks are done. It's boring and mostly unfun." The only major disagreement I have is Compost, I find that item incredibly powerful and fun.
Not *Plan C* in this list? I guess it has some usefulness if you have some respawn item (preferible *Lazarus Rags*) but, c´mon... it´s has no purpose...
But how is Tonsil worthless? It blocks shots! I know, it's still pretty mediocre, but because it can block shots, I would say it isn't worthless, as it quite literally benefits you.
Tonsil = worse guppy's hairball? no, Tonsil is a worse dry baby, guppy's hairball can be swung around to hit your foes and spawn flies on contact with them. Dry baby is a tear blocking familiar that, when hit, causes a dead sea scrolls effect.
I am utterly astounded that Delirious is not on here. It is horrible. "OH, 12 ROOM CHARGE? CHARMED BOSS FOR ONE ROOM!" If the bosses stayed throughout rooms, it would be much better.
Lol no hate honestly. I just have a BURNING HATE for delirious. I can understand why it isn't on here. It is Powerful, just should be less than a 12 room charge. I saw the video disclaimer. I'm just throwing in my opinion.
I honestly have to agree with Ego here. It seems that boss that you spawn, dies within the matter of seconds, while doing next to no damage. For how rare it is + 12 room charge thing, it's definitely not an amazing counterpart of Mega Blast. Even though it's kinda fun, especially against the boss rush. LOL
mom's razor is quite Horrible and i also wished that the bleeding effects were a bit more Real than a blood dripping from Nowhere into your enemies head
Your 10 worst items in antibirth video was horrible, yet this video was pretty neat. This feels more like 'worst items list' than 'least favorite items list.' Great job.
Mister Asian Well thank you, and screw you at the same time. They were both written using my own personal opinions. The other one want a bad list out video. You just disagreed with it. It's that simple. The ten items in the Antibirth weren't my least favorites.
You see, the reason I called out your antibirth video horrible is solely because of the list of items. You could have picked better. For example, Black Mushroom gives you temporary tears up while distorting your screen. While the tears up effect only lasts a single room, you need to clear several rooms in order to let the distortion effect go away. If you spammed it several times already, the screen is so messed up that you cannot even play properly. On the other hand, Book of Despair gives you a huge tears up without any penalties and it needs a same amount of charge with Book of Belial. Black Mushroom is fun an all, but clearly the latter is a better choice. Akeldama gives you a trail of tears which can swing around like Guppy's Hairball, but hitting enemies with your own tear is often a better choice than trying to swing it. Donkey Jawbone gives a spin attack whenever Isaac is hit, but in TBoI you usually get hit by tears fired by enemies who's out of range, making it half obsolete. Stitches' teleport effect is neat, but since you cannot control the doll directly, you just need to wait or be coincidental to use it practically. You can dislike or hate any items you want. Hell, I dislike Epic Fetus because it's powerful yet boring to use. But, still you could have picked some items that are actually impractical, rather than picking your own dislikes, since the title of video was 'Top 10 worst items in Antibirth.' Consolation Prize is at worst a range up item, at best a DPS upgrade plus a single bomb or key. Stone Bombs highly increase the range of bombs in 4 directions. Luna gives you extra 2 rooms per floor, giving you an extra space to farm pickups and items with zero downsides. Surely these items can't be called the worst.
Mister Asian I judge items my own way. You clearly didn't listen to everything. I don't "dislike" the items on that list. I judged them to be the worst off of my own set of criteria. I'm not making these lists to appease the viewers choices. They are mine. I consider those ten to be the worst. Don't tell me to "choose better" on my perspective. It's my voice and my opinion, not yours. I apologize for sounding rude, but I've responded to this exact comment two hundred times. My opinion, deal with it. My least favorites would be a totally different list. People assumed I was talking about my least liked items because of the skit I did in the beginning. No one realized, for some reason, the opening was a joke. Not my problem.
I've done a hardest bosses list for up to Rebirth already. And difficult bosses, comes down to play style. And my comments are already an ass factory enough, lol!
Zefix 313 It had literally no use aside from blocking projectiles. Nearly every orbital does that as well, is easier to control, and has other uses. Tonsil does nothing. It was a completion troll by the devs because of how unusual you have to get it.
Zefix 313 He has an AOE bullet reflection after farting. It's not insignificant. Tonsil does NOTHING. It was literally put in to tell players after unlocks.
poke go is great tho. the rare times when you do spawn a vis he can absolutely destroy bosses and is a decent room clearer, all the while he rarely gets damaged by enemies.
TheMike0088 You're judging the item based on a single enemy it can spawn out of over a hundred. I judge it as a whole.
PentaHybrid I don't think it can spawn ANY non-boss enemy as so far, I've always gotten a vis within 5-6 spawns, but I do see your point. I don't think its an amazing item, but I do believe the fact alone that you get to keep the charmed enemies from room to room and they can't hurt you unlike regular charmed enemies should be enough to not be on this list. now, the finger on the other hand (pun not intended), THAT is an item worth making it on this list. but hey, its your list buddy, not mine.
TheMike0088 I love the finger, lol. It's free damage, I'll never complain about free damage.
PentaHybrid but its SO minimal. though to be fair its a useful item for, say, the lost. just hide on a rock and let the finger chip your enemies to death.
TheMike0088 It's a percentage of your damage, so it goes up as you get stronger. Not only that, but it's got infinite range and hits constantly.
I love that the tonsil is a useless item like irl
Sacrificial altar?
@@lokegerhardsson8979 yes
Lol true
The tonsils are part of the body's immune system. Because of their location at the throat and palate, they can stop germs entering the body through the mouth or the nose. The tonsils also contain a lot of white blood cells, which are responsible for killing germs.
In other words your tonsils were only useless because your immune system is inferior to other people's.
@@PiganticGenis ah I see
brown nugget is amazing in greed/ greeder mode
You are right
fact: shade can die permanently after some time and spawn charmed black chargers
After dealing enough damage yes. Not a great plus side to the item.
It was just a fact I am not saying "Holy shit it spawns charmed chargers that's fantastic".
After dealing 600 damage to be specific.
Joshua yes you are
You are probably talking about my shadow
My personal worst item is an item called "crying makes me fart"
Dont know the actual name but this item spawns a fart cloud randomly when shooting.
Its stationary and when it does hit something( 1/1000 chance to make a difference)
It does mediocre dmg.
Guess beans have never been good in isaac, butter bean, the bean, black bean, giga bean, wait..what!, and this bean added to ab+ are all items that i would reroll any time any where.
Its called the Linger Bean
Cnado Sollux?
PixelAxe yes
Wait what is infinite bombs. And does no self damage. It is also on a recharge timer instead of a room recharge.
Stewartsaurus This thread was about the ‘Linger Bean’ not ‘Butter Bean’ or ‘Wait! What?’.
I wanted to see what would happen with all that luck at the end...then the video ended 😭
New Nostalgia Hehehe
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actally, the tonsil is a dry baby that dosen't deals damage, that can be useful sometimes
I will politely disagree.
+PentaHybrid when will the top 10 best new items in afterbirth+ coming out?
arthur pinna Friday
Arthur Pinna and depression is a headless baby that shoot some times *HOLY WHITE FUCKING DEATH* shoots (know the light beams that Isaac, conquest and etc shoots? The name of this attack is holy death. But I prefer calling it *HOLY WHITE FUCKING DEAAATH!!!*)
Tonsil is basically Farting Baby. No use other than blocking shots (I know farting baby farts too, but when does that ever help), but since it just follows you like a normal familiar, it's easy to position. If you can get Tonsil, Farting Baby, Dry Baby, and BFFs, you're nearly immune to projectiles, especially if you get King Baby to help with the positioning even more. In other words, if you're headed to Hush, grab Tonsil and use a blood donation machine or two. You really can't complain too much about a Dry/Farting Baby without the extra effects.
If you have the tonsil trinket and duct tape at the same time (mom's purse, smelter, etc.) and a tonsil spawns, when you pick it up, the tonsil will be stuck directly on you, making you essentially immune to tears.
Jebidiah Kerman the tonsil helped me in the hush fight in the one run I actually got it on
Something I always find interesting about Isaac is just how amazingly subjective the items are. Even the most USUALLY hated items can still be something that some players really like and will grab often. For me, stuff like Soy Milk or Tiny Planet fit that bill. It's like Edmund said, there's just a million different playstyles in this game. I'm glad to see that they keep the items as varied as they do, for that reason. Niche items are just as important to a game like this as widely-loved things like Brimstone (and even that is subjective, I've run into players that hate Brimstone... which rather baffles me, but I figure, if they dont like it, well, that's up to them).
Soy milk ends certain runs
2:05 at the earliest laws you can get it can carry a bit more like a supporting flavour to your build
Isaac heart is really good item because of you get IV bag can get infinite money and the machine won't hurt you free HP
I agree with the list, but one mentioned item..... "Poke Go"
It seems it spawns only several enemies around 7-8 different kinds of them, which if you get "Vis", it obliterates even bosses.
It doesn't seem by any means to be pretty bad, but hey opinions and what not.
I do respect'em. ;)
The only reason I like the Depression item was my reaction, a newcomer to the Binding of Isaac who had just bought Rebirth along with both mods, picking up "Depression. :(" I laughed really hard. I soon realized it was pretty much garbage, but I liked having it around for the shits and giggles.
Dad's lost coin it's just another Mom's pearl but with a penny and it must be unlocked by killing ultra greedier with the lost (i know it gives you a penny and...that's it)
Actually, it has a chance to fire a coin tear in addition to your regular shots, which applies the Midas Touch effect to them, but costs a coin.
Awesome Fuzz that's eye of greed *facepalm*
What would you prefer antibirth or afternoon plus
dank machine "Afternoon plus"
dank machine What is "Afternoon plus"
Lmao that auto spell kms
dank machine Antibirth for it's mechanics and vision. But Afterbirth+ overall for scope. The ability to have your fans carry on the legacy is wonderful even if the game suffered from issues.
PentaHybrid I tottaly agree but also in my opinion antibirth has alot of game changing item and even more synergys in fact I'm playing antibirth right now
The tonsil has more use than the butter bean, regardless of what it takes to get it.
DoppelDragon - Butters But the Butter Bean isn't new. So it doesn't count for the list. And Butter Bean is much better than most people give it credit.
Delerious. 12 room recharge, Angel Pool, Spawns a random Delerium boss for 1 ROOM. Useless and unfun, unlike Mega Blast.
Its Change, Right? Mega Blast, 12 room recharge, shoots a giant beam of death. Overpowered and unfun. Two can play that game.
Its Change, Right? Correction: spawns a random delirium boss that takes the form of another delirium boss in the next room. Not for 1 room
he can be good vs a boss, its a help, mega blast is just overpowered and 1 heart for it, he can kill isaac and blue baby in one blast, just saying
Both Mega Blast and Delirious are bullshit, thank you.
@@Luiz91457 I hate you tho
That dead tooth really helped when I had whiz brimstone but I can imagine it being useless when you have normal tears.
In my opinion, the tonsil is good. It's a less effective Dry Baby, as it helps with things such as the Isaac and Blue Baby fight, because you can stand behind it. Other than that, I agree pretty much with everything else.
Zombie1Kenobi I don't consider an item good for that reason. Especially due to the fact that those strategies make the game boring. I prefer dodging. But I'm glad someone enjoys it.
I see why you would think that, and I understand how it can be boring. Keep up the great work, man.
That was a very generous assessment of King Baby. I'd put it worse than the four you put immediately before it
Tonsil+Isaacs Heart= Harder to be damaged, if you have king baby and flight, you can fly on a rock and start firing and issacs heart (and tonsil) will be standing there safe from almost all attacks and enemies other than flies.
AKA - Incredibly boring. Sorry, I exclude game breaking and cheesing from my criteria. The game is meant to be fun not tedious.
woooo! the flooted caves song in the background! i love that song!
I remember having around 4 of the charmed lazer enemies, if it weren't for the boss intro i wouldn't know which one i was fighting
Wow, a lot of familiars on the list. I do think there were a few items that could've been on the list, like: Big chubby (fot the lower damage and speed compared to lil' chubby), and some of the unlockable items: Hushy (just contact damage. He blocks tears, at least), dad's lost coin ( not a lot of range up + a luck up), dark princes crown (this is by no mean a bad item, but the requirement for it is precisely 1 heart, that gives a small stats up), delirious (kind of a let down for a 12 bar active item, plus if it spawns into a boss that spawns monsters, those are not friendly, which will make the room significantly harder). LIke I said, these are not bad items, but the fact that they are unlockables makes it worse, because I have to complet a run with a certain character, and the reward is mediocre at best. Ex: dad's lost coin. You have to beat Greedier mode with The Lost..... It may be an unpopular opinion, but I usually don't do some of the unlockables for this reason. I'd rather not have some of them in my item pool.
Cosmin Madox Well to give a short response. Not all unlockable have always been good. And most veteran Isaac players don't know what the unlocks are until they get them. More power to those who look up what they need to unlock, but that runs the fun and drive to complete the game.
character idea! it leaves green creep behind,poisons enemies on touch has a serpents kiss effect and is immune to spikes and can't be damaged by curse doors. but cant gain transformations and it's sprite never changes to show its items, so without the his, you can forget was you have, and you also take more tear damage but less contact damage. why all these effects? he is made of pure poison creep, but it does have white eyes...
Don’t quote me on this. But I’m pretty sure Dataminer is a troll item
Nothing like a Tboia top ten in your notifications when you wake up
I just started playing this game and I love it, I had heard how good it was but I thought it looked to simple. Until I played it, what a masterpiece this game is, thank you so much for making these videos they have helped me a lot with understanding this game.
Brown nugget is a monster in Greed mode, especially when you have The Battery and some time to kill before starting the floor gauntlet
As I've stated before "I've already announced before that Greed Mode isn't a factor in my writing, as I don't play the mode once the unlocks are done. It's boring and mostly unfun."
Poke go is bad but actually cool. It spawn friendly Vis that are annoying monsters but good helping.
isn't the tonsil a trinket that grants a permanent effect and not an item?
It's acts like an item due to it being in te item portion of the HUD and item list
Brown Nugget is hilarious to fight Hush with
Brown nugget's decent in greed mode with patience
I think Large Zit deserves to be on here, not only is it disgusting to look at, the creep puddle is very small and has little use. Maybe if you had the trinket that increases creep size it'd be semi useful...
You got it all wrong, that swadow that follows (forgot the name) works just like that fan fly. it copys your moves not attack like meat boy.
King baby paired with duck tape and Isaac's heart can give you infinite invincibility by dropping duck tape at one corner of a huge room then leading King baby and making him stay in the opposite corner then picking up duck tape. Now you just need to stay anywhere but the corner you picked up duck tape in.
The monsters go after the heart not isaac
Hi there the point is issacs heart isn't able to be hit because it is so far outside the walls of the room.
Isaac's heart is so far away from you that as long as you stay in a certain part of the room enemies will never hit you.
I really thought acid baby would be here :p
Robo_Games he is amazing
Robo_Games He is really really good.
i like King baby
He's good if you've gotten a nice pill rotation, sometimes pill rotations are just plain shit..
I find that king baby is quite useful with the censer but I don't think it's worth it to beat delirium with blue baby
What was the worse guppy's hairball comment supposed to mean? The hairball is a top tier item when fighting bullet spam like Isaac, Blue Baby, Gurdy, etc. and the fact a trinket can give you two admittedly slightly worse versions of that item means a lot especially with bffs.
TheMirksta Because I don't find dodging in this game hard, and shot blocking familiars aside from Farting Baby and Dry Baby are not good to me.
Brown nugget was amazing for greed mode
What sucks for me is that I have king baby unlocked before anything good like the Polaroid or the Negative.
In my opinion, the worst item is magnetic tears. Don't know if its a new item or not, but that thing is straight up dangerous, making enemies react sporadically towards your shots.
My Top 5 BEST items :
1. Chaos (Brimstone and Sacred Heart from shop)
2. Varicose Veins
3. Haemolacria
4. Jacob's Ladder
5. Technology Zero
No god head?
Fun fact: Bloodshot eye synergizes with angelic prism
(Ftw... i know this video is old but the cloud + king baby is really good in boss fights)
Tonsil doesn't have the annoying momentum AI like guppy's hairball. It's more like an even worse farting baby.
To me, the worst item is the Feels Like I'm Walking on Sunshine pill. The "I'm Excited!!!" pill is annoying, but that's okay, pills are always positive or negative. But Feels Like I'm Walking on Sunshine is pointless. it makes you invincible like Power Pill, and increase your speed a little while its in effect, but also deals no damage when hitting into enemies.
I have never been in a situation where that speed increase would've made any difference whatsoever. I can't even imagine a situation where it would.
etherraichu Pills are pickups though, not items.
+etherraichu You can actually get some good use out of it if you have a good damaging orbital, just like how you can be really overpowered with unicorn stump.
You could use it when about to be hit, or to get through the spike rooms
I C wat u did there with data miner
Pootis Wizard That was a last minute production decision, but I'm really glad I did it.
I think dataminer and depression are not bad items, I understand why you put both on the list, but as my own personal vision are good and fun items:3, awesome video, I loved it :D
Lirion Belmont I did mention for both of those that I liked them. But I don't consider them very good. I live a good Dataminer run!
I mean, I dont wanna be a cringey kid, but what you gonna do 8) Tonsil is shit, but it's a trinket. It can be really useful with duck tape (if you summoned both), BFF, or with any tanky run that hasn't got a trinket. The trinket sucks overall, but better then bat wing, which should be 100% to give flight on hit or low chance to give it permanently.
David Macher Tonsil is an item spawned from the trinket. That was the focus of the video. the trinket sucks as well via the associative property of shit. Lol
I have a challenge for Afterbirth +, you are blindfolded and have mini monstro, Issac's heart, and king baby
isn't the tonsil just dry baby but without the Necronomicon effect
yup. ya pretty much nailed it. i mighta thrown in the D1 but that one has it's uses. so long as ya don't trade the D6 for it.
I quite like tonsil. free item that does not take up in any treasure rooms, boss room, shop, devil deal, or angel deals. its place can be steered as I want, and it can save be hard on issac/???/hush fight.
But it takes up the trinket spot
Penta will you be releasing top x for repentance items and characters. Those were always a fav of mine of your past Isaac iterations.
Bob's Rotten Brain may not be an Afterbirth item but it is my absolute most hated item. I have been killed by it so many times that I outright ignore it nowadays, even if I could get it for a transformation.
How did you get hit by it? I rarely do
No Dark Prince's Crown?
It's not that bad. Not a huge item, but not bad by any means.
So, it pretty easy to remain at one red heart and just fill up with sin and soul hearts. It's an item that raised three stats. Far better than many others.
The struggle to keep it active isn't worth the stat increases, especially considering that two of the three stats don't matter too much in most cases. I'd much rather have any other 2 heart devil deal item.
Perhaps it's a struggle to you. That's why this comes down to opinion. It's not on the list.
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no tonsil is not a worse guppy's hairball, its a worse farting baby, which is already pretty bad
Good to see the Tonsil torn down rightfully. It really is the only item in the game to do nothing for any build out there. I might have my grievances with certain items. Dead Cat's been the most consistent game-killer for me, Tiny Planet *almost* does no build's job better than just about anything else in the game (that is, if the Tiny Planet/Soy Milk/Lost Contact trio didn't exist) and Bob's Brain, lovable fuck as it is, might be a bit of a safety-hazard, but all of them have workarounds and when they shine, they're game-breakers. Things the Tonsil can never do.
I've yet to run into Sacred Heart once. 121 hours in, you'd think the thing would decide to show itself every once in a while. I really do hate those kinds of ultra-rare items. Douchebags like Sacred Heart, Brimstone, Godhead and whatnot. Yeah, they might be amazingly good items and are gonna carry the game when you get them, but they're such fickle fucks to grow any attachment to and will always just appear at the tail-end of a doomed run anyway, mocking you as you've internalized your defeat. Meanwhile, it's the loyal, working-class items like Mom's Contact and Dead Eye that carried me through shit like Onan's Streak.
Although Greed mode is something that is great to just break the game in. I just wish the journey towards the Keeper wasn't such an abominable slog without cheap exploits.
Brimstone isnt rare sacred heart is tho just spam angel rooms and hope for the best
There are so many items that would make for good *_CHALLENGING_* challenges
Telepathy + blindfold
Shade + blindfold (would require something to do ranged damage somehow though)
Something with tech zero
Red flame?
Or boomerang
the problem is that it looks like ed ran out of ideas. Tonsil could've been that super difficult item to get that has awesome effects, but sadly, it's just a bad Dry baby.
I actually really like depression. It's in my top 10 familiars. However I could not agree with you more on how bad bloodshot eye is.
I've already announced before that Greed Mode isn't a factor in my writing, as I don't play the mode once the unlocks are done. It's boring and mostly unfun.
Dude, no plan c?
It's amazing with Lazarus/Lazarus' Rags, and in some cases other respawn items too.
Dylan Cumberland You can use it to instakill Delirium - and survive! - if you have Laz’s Rags.
Don't diss plan c
How is Plan C not the #1 worst item? Sure, it deals enough damage to kill anything in the game in one shot, but then you croak three seconds later, and often bosses take longer than three seconds to die, meaning you can't use it to cheese a quick end to a run against ??? or The Lamb. Also, most respawn items set you in the previous room, and until a boss explodes & all their minions are dead too and the way out/Devil or Angel Rooms/chest is revealed they aren't considered dead yet, meaning you just wasted a respawn to simply fight the boss over again. The *ONLY* respawn item that gets around this is Lazarus' Rags, which respawns you as Lazarus II in the same room you died, and is the same as Lazarus' built-in extra life. About the only way this is truly useful is if you really need to do a Lazarus unlock but utterly suck at playing him, so you do the run as someone else then Plan C/Laz Rag to Lazarus in the Cathedral/Sheol/Chest/Dark Room/Mega Satan/Void boss fight.
I mean, if Algiz/Chariot would let you tank the insta-death, even if it means something like leaving you with only half a heart left like Glass Cannon does once the i-frames ended, this wouldn't be so bad.
Dead tooth + Ludovicho technique + Gnawed Leaf = YAY
But the dead tooth only activates while moving the ludo which deactivates gnawed leaf?
One comment on your list - Brown Nugget is actually really useful in Greed Mode. It is pretty useless in the normal game though. Now, here are my 10 worst new items. Items that differ from your list are in *asterisks*.
#10 - *Hushy*. More than anything, I'm just disappointed. What kind of Hush can't fire projectiles? A Hush Baby should be something impressive, but it's really not.
#9 - *Backstabber*. Bleed Damage just isn't that good.
#8 - *Dad's Lost Coin*. Luck is nice, I guess but... Meh.
#7 - Poke Go. Neat idea, but not particularly helpful.
#6 - *Dark Prince's Crown*. Not worth 2 hearts and extremely limited usage.
#5 - Mom's Razor. Yeah. Everything you said.
#4 - *Compost*. There are a lot of better ways to get spider/flies without losing pickups.
#3 - King Baby. Everyone keeps saying it might have a use... I have yet to hear of that use. Even if it exists, it's so limited it's not worth bothering.
#2 - *Delirious*. Why is a super-rare 12-charge item about as powerful as Shoop Da Whoop, a common 2-charge? Just compare it to the other super-rare 12-charge weapon, Mega Blast. Delirious can't even hold a Red Candle to Mega.
#1 - *Linger Bean*. Need I say more?
My comment from the comment section - "I've already announced before that Greed Mode isn't a factor in my writing, as I don't play the mode once the unlocks are done. It's boring and mostly unfun."
The only major disagreement I have is Compost, I find that item incredibly powerful and fun.
To me King baby just looks like a jerk. I mean just look at him with his smug face and his crown. Dastardly evil.
Not *Plan C* in this list? I guess it has some usefulness if you have some respawn item (preferible *Lazarus Rags*) but, c´mon... it´s has no purpose...
Hatox It's purpose was to be interesting with respawns. It was designed for Lazarus.
You said it has a purpose then you said it doesnt
That eye one is just a meatcube or whatever but shoots
Also I finally found a list that shows how bad king baby is.
King baby is good tho... At least it looks like it
Poke go has saved a few of my runs... Gotta give it a little more credit
Are you sure its pretty mediocre
Fun fact: if shade takes/does enough damage it will die permanently and spawn some black charger things
Limtian Yup, forgot to mention that in the script, but it's not helping the items rank. Lol
I can’t tell whether it’s bad or not that I like Depression.
What's that mod with the live stat change things on the left side? And is it easy to install?
Not a mod. It's a feature from the game. Called "Found HUD" in the options menu.
But how is Tonsil worthless? It blocks shots! I know, it's still pretty mediocre, but because it can block shots, I would say it isn't worthless, as it quite literally benefits you.
Tonsil = worse guppy's hairball?
no, Tonsil is a worse dry baby, guppy's hairball can be swung around to hit your foes and spawn flies on contact with them. Dry baby is a tear blocking familiar that, when hit, causes a dead sea scrolls effect.
You mean a Necronomicon effect
yes, I mean Necronomicon effect, but the pint got across though anyway, right?
Yeah, it did xD
I just couldn't leave it uncorrected because it might confuse someone
hey Im a new player of TBOI today i just beated mom's boss, your content is pretty cool, +1 subscriber, i love your channel
I am utterly astounded that Delirious is not on here. It is horrible. "OH, 12 ROOM CHARGE? CHARMED BOSS FOR ONE ROOM!" If the bosses stayed throughout rooms, it would be much better.
EgoGuy That's a gross overreaction. Congrats on missing the video disclaimer. A+ for stupidity.
Lol no hate honestly. I just have a BURNING HATE for delirious. I can understand why it isn't on here. It is Powerful, just should be less than a 12 room charge. I saw the video disclaimer. I'm just throwing in my opinion.
I honestly have to agree with Ego here.
It seems that boss that you spawn, dies within the matter of seconds, while doing next to no damage.
For how rare it is + 12 room charge thing, it's definitely not an amazing counterpart of Mega Blast.
Even though it's kinda fun, especially against the boss rush. LOL
Penta are you the guy who does wendy roasts?
no wonder TBOI R shows aftherbirth is DLC for TBOI R and TBOI A+ is DLC for afterbirth (so its a DLC for a DLC)
mom's razor is quite Horrible and i also wished that the bleeding effects were a bit more Real than a blood dripping from Nowhere into your enemies head
Your 10 worst items in antibirth video was horrible, yet this video was pretty neat.
This feels more like 'worst items list' than 'least favorite items list.' Great job.
Mister Asian Well thank you, and screw you at the same time. They were both written using my own personal opinions. The other one want a bad list out video. You just disagreed with it. It's that simple. The ten items in the Antibirth weren't my least favorites.
You see, the reason I called out your antibirth video horrible is solely because of the list of items. You could have picked better. For example,
Black Mushroom gives you temporary tears up while distorting your screen. While the tears up effect only lasts a single room, you need to clear several rooms in order to let the distortion effect go away. If you spammed it several times already, the screen is so messed up that you cannot even play properly. On the other hand, Book of Despair gives you a huge tears up without any penalties and it needs a same amount of charge with Book of Belial. Black Mushroom is fun an all, but clearly the latter is a better choice.
Akeldama gives you a trail of tears which can swing around like Guppy's Hairball, but hitting enemies with your own tear is often a better choice than trying to swing it.
Donkey Jawbone gives a spin attack whenever Isaac is hit, but in TBoI you usually get hit by tears fired by enemies who's out of range, making it half obsolete.
Stitches' teleport effect is neat, but since you cannot control the doll directly, you just need to wait or be coincidental to use it practically.
You can dislike or hate any items you want. Hell, I dislike Epic Fetus because it's powerful yet boring to use. But, still you could have picked some items that are actually impractical, rather than picking your own dislikes, since the title of video was 'Top 10 worst items in Antibirth.' Consolation Prize is at worst a range up item, at best a DPS upgrade plus a single bomb or key. Stone Bombs highly increase the range of bombs in 4 directions. Luna gives you extra 2 rooms per floor, giving you an extra space to farm pickups and items with zero downsides. Surely these items can't be called the worst.
Mister Asian I judge items my own way. You clearly didn't listen to everything. I don't "dislike" the items on that list. I judged them to be the worst off of my own set of criteria. I'm not making these lists to appease the viewers choices. They are mine. I consider those ten to be the worst. Don't tell me to "choose better" on my perspective. It's my voice and my opinion, not yours. I apologize for sounding rude, but I've responded to this exact comment two hundred times. My opinion, deal with it. My least favorites would be a totally different list. People assumed I was talking about my least liked items because of the skit I did in the beginning. No one realized, for some reason, the opening was a joke. Not my problem.
me: orders familiars to shoot
king baby: Hol up.
Was that intro a Nurd Rage reference
Zombonikiller I don't know who that is, lol.
Zombonikiller It’s a warning in all of his ‘Top 10’ lists - because he realises that his lists may be quite controversial.
if shade cause so much damage he dies and spawns black charmed chargers
Top 10 best/worst/fun bosses in AB+? Could be a fun idea :D
I've done a hardest bosses list for up to Rebirth already. And difficult bosses, comes down to play style. And my comments are already an ass factory enough, lol!
Just an idea 👍
I appreciate it. I'm already working on the next 5 as it is. Next week is the Best AB+ list. After that is something weird and interesting.
PentaHybrid, the item Shade isnt infinite (Like a MeatBoy) it just separe in 2 Dark Chargers after doing 500 of damage
Faithfull Follower Of The 0/0 Dart Monkey I know this, but I was saying just it's AI could be better compared to the shit delay.
Shade is my favorite hate item I really wanted it to be good but I was very sad to see how bad it was
Don't the Tonsil add a chance for a respawn as Apollyon?
Is there a source you can back this info up with? Nothing even remotely suggests this.
What program do you use to spawn items and bosses like in 4:15 ?
Peekatchu Lvl. It's just the afterbirth+ console. It only works if you have mods enabled by pressing the ~ key under the esc key
When Tonsil is the worst afterbirth+ item Farting Baby have to be also very bad although shot blocking familiars are very useful
Zefix 313 Farting baby is actually quite good and very useful. He doesn't count though because he isn't new.
PentaHybrid But why is Tonsil bad?
Zefix 313 It had literally no use aside from blocking projectiles. Nearly every orbital does that as well, is easier to control, and has other uses. Tonsil does nothing. It was a completion troll by the devs because of how unusual you have to get it.
PentaHybrid But you say Farting Baby is very useful although he only can fart when he gets hit by projectiles. That's not a big difference
Zefix 313 He has an AOE bullet reflection after farting. It's not insignificant. Tonsil does NOTHING. It was literally put in to tell players after unlocks.
you made me go download this game again for some reason
Digital107 Because I'm amazing!?
love ur channel my man
But brown nugget can work pretty good in the boss rush....
huh, i like 9, 8 and 7
What's the difference between shade and purple fly?
Shade can die and spawn chargers. Obsessed fan doesn't, but he counts towards Beelzebub.
Charmed enemies spawned by the pokey man items don't actually hurt you.
Arachnerd Never said they did.
Then I must've confused your wording,which would mean that I don't get the reason Pokego is there.
Sorry,
i unlocked razorblade with eve but eve dont start with it...really
3:19 I AM THE BEHOLDER!