Me : have long hair Doyeong: uploads a video about styling medium length hair Me: clicks video anyway for reference when I cut my hair short which will never happen :3
I have long hair for more than 20 years. I was in grade school when the hair dresser accidentally cut it in a very short length and I cried miserably, since then I have always kept my hair long. Until recently, I went to the salon to have a keratin treatment when I just spontaneously and voluntarily had my hair cut short (a teeny bit shorter than Doyeong's hair length). I was scared during the process and thought heck I am so gonna regret this, what the fudge have I done but fudge it if I don't like it I will just tie my hair and let it grow. As I look in the mirror and see my new haircut, I was suprisingly not crying and I kind of like it until it grew on me and loved it. Now, I am watching this video thinking of how I could style my hair and I'm happy. I replied to your comment because I have felt how you feel. I am not 100% sure that you will also have the same satisfaction I have when I cut my hair but I just want you to know that you might surprise yourself and like it too and if not, you can blame the random internet person who commnted on your post and fudge it, your hair will grow back. Sorry for the long post. Keep your hair long, cut it, dye it, whatever, as long as you choose your happiness and it will not hurt anyone then go for it 😊
Stop being so hard to yourself and to others, then you will see you are beautiful, just like other people are beautiful too. I never received a bad comment from a man because of my clothes, extra pounds or lack of makeup. You women are rude.
와.... 저...... 아기낳기 전 단발로 자르다가 진짜 겨우겨우 머리 길어서 거지존인데 너무 우울했거든요..? 와... 근데 지금 영상을 왜 이제서야 본건지.. 아니 본게 정말 다행이라고 생각하며 아기 재우고 지금 이 저녁에 화장대로 가서 6가지 머리 다 연습해봤는데 드디어 예쁘게 머리하고 나가고 싶은 마음이 불끈불끈!! 넘 감사해여 저에게 용기와 힘을 주었습니당 오늘부로 구독과 좋아요 시작됬습니당💓
I recently cut my hair to same length as hers and couldn’t figure out how to style it and this video really helped me! The 5th style is probably my favorite. Thank you
heyy when using flat iron, shld I apply any hair treatment or oil? Shld I wash my hair beforehand? I'm an absolute beginner and I really don't want to ruin my hair. I watched vids but each say diff things...help out ur girl please 😭
@@YoGirl-zj9lf hehe i can help u u dont need to wash ur hair before using the flat iron and the oil makes ur hair more mosturized (i never use it haaha but u can its good for ur hair)
장발에서 앞머리도 자르구 중단발 하고 왔는데 생각보다 너무 잘어울려서 스타일링이 하고싶어지는거.. 그래서 영상 찾이봤더니 완전 이쁜 영상 찾았어요..!! 물결헤어 스타일 갠적으루 너무 마음에 들어서 바로 해봤더니.. 보영님 만큼은 아니지만 이쁘더라 구용.. 감사합니다!!💕
와 언니 이런 유용한 영상 넘나 칭찬해여ㅠㅜ저는 중단발은 아니지만 딱 가슴 윗선까지오는 길어보이는것 같은데 아닌것같기도 한 엄청 애매한 머리길이거든요ㅠㅠ층도 마니 쳐져잇어서 고데기로 무조건 씨컬만 하고 다니는데 이영상보니까 비스무리하게 따라해봐도 될거가타여ㅠㅜㅠ중단발이신분들께도 너무나도 도움 많이될거 같네여ㅠㅜㅠ이영상 조회수 1위 예상해여ㅋㅋ언니는 중단발도 세상 잘어울리ㅠㅠㅠㅠㅎㅎ구독자도 벌써 40만명 넘으셧네여ㅠㅜㅜ50만때 오프라인 이벤트 또 해주세여❤헤헤😚 늘 알차고 유용한영상 감사해여~ ❤❤❤언제나도영곁에❤❤❤
you look so adorable in those hairstyles and it makes me want to cut my hair short but I know I’ll regret it?? haha just gonna continue watching more of such videos to convince myself that it’ll be a good idea.
@@LuisaH2022 heyy when using flat iron, shld I apply any hair treatment or oil? Shld I wash my hair beforehand? I'm an absolute beginner and I really don't want to ruin my hair. I watched vids but each say diff things...help out ur girl please 😭
@@YoGirl-zj9lf stop using flat iron, curling iron or any other heat styling products. I just wash my hair with shampoo and condition twice afterwards. Sometimes I apply oil on damp to wet hair. Normally I keep my hair up in a bun which further protects my hair from damage (rubbing on clothes, weather, pets and kids playing with it etc)
she's so pretty and cute im in love, and the way she talks so gently :(( + I'm planning on cutting my hair the same length and this video is just the best
when i had longer hair buns were my life, but i cut my hair short and i always couldnt tie buns because of the hair sticking out... but omg! because of your method, i'll be tying buns again!! how did i not think of that simple method!! thank u so much
@@Ivone58 really ?, I can’t tell. she’s still pretty tho. Her personality seems also nice and easygoing as well. Pretty for me is not only the face and I’m quite open about PS , so it’s okay. There’s nothing wrong with wanting to be pretty. Thank you for letting me know 😊
I love hair and makeup videos, this video was so nice. Thank you so much, but my hair is longer and I don't know if it'll work the same. I don't want to experiment, because I don't want to damage my hair. No other youtubers have the kind of videos I want with longer hair like you. That's okay though because your videos are always fun.
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사용한 고데기: 보다나- 소프트바 판고데기 크리미블루
착용한 맨투맨: 체리빌레-컬러가너무예뻐 기모맨투맨
도영도영이 please translate the video in Arabic😩😭
Please🙏🙏🙏
저 도영님 따라 거지존으로 짤랐는데... 후회중이에여...
언니 오늘두 영상 넘 잘봤어요💖💖💖🙊
사랑합니동
💗 바쁜 여러분들을 위한 *_타임라인_* 💗
1❤ *자갈치* 헤어 스타일
0:43 0:43 0:43
0:43 0:43 0:43
2🧡 *웨이브* 스타일
3:25 3:25 3:25
3:25 3:25 3:25
3💛 *반묶음* 머리
4:54 4:54 4:54
4:54 4:54 4:54
4💚 *C퀄* 헤어 스타일
6:15 6:15 6:15
6:15 6:15 6:15
5💙 *물결* 헤어 스타일
8:40 8:40 8:40
8:40 8:40 8:40
6💜 *똥머리* (마지막)
10:22 10:22 10:22
10:22 10:22 10:22
+개인적으로 똥머리 너무 잘어울리세요ㅠ
예주 우와 최고 님
💜Thank you!!
thank you ❤
헙 감사합니다
이거올려용
自分用
1 0:42
2 3:25
3 4:54
4 6:15
5 8:39
6 10:21
谢谢！！
Nanako SA. 没关系🙌🏻
hyun Kim 괜찮아요😄
thank you ❤❤
ありがとう❤️
고데기 너무 잘하신다 ㅠㅠ 저도 중단발이라.. 고민이여서 들어왔는데 ㅠㅠ 학생이라서 매일 스타일링 못하고 나가는게 함정 ㅠㅠ
직장인도..ㅠ
@@봄-r3t6r 흐규흐규ㅠㅠ 너란 스타일링..
하 맞아여ㅠ그래서 머리 묶고 다니는게 일상ㅠ
@@냐냐-e2z 마자요 ㅠㅠ
맞아요 ㅍ
その長さの時困っていたので
とてもわかりやすくて勉強になりました!!!
いつも楽しみに見ています♥
🦑내가 보려고 만드는 타임 라인🦑
00:42 자갈치 머리
03:24 자갈치 응용 웨이브 스타일
04:54 웨이브 반묶음
06:14 c컬 스타일
08:40 c컬 응용 물결펌
10:21 똥머리 스타일
같이 좀 볼께요💖
곰아어요 ㅠㅡㅠ
11:58 9:10
10:41
7:06 7: 7:38
금손+완벽미모=환상..☆
진쨔 언니는 예뿌시기두 진짜 예뿌시지만..
언니한테 잘 어울리게끔 예쁘게 스타일링을 잘하셔서
언니의 미모가 더 돋보이는거 가타여🥰
만년중단발로서 이런 영상 진짜 너무 감사하구
징짜 도움이 많이 된답니댱 :)
여행 겟레디도 기대할게영!
Me : have long hair
Doyeong: uploads a video about styling medium length hair
Me: clicks video anyway for reference when I cut my hair short which will never happen :3
Omggg me to lol 😂💜
Yup😂
😂😂
I have long hair for more than 20 years. I was in grade school when the hair dresser accidentally cut it in a very short length and I cried miserably, since then I have always kept my hair long. Until recently, I went to the salon to have a keratin treatment when I just spontaneously and voluntarily had my hair cut short (a teeny bit shorter than Doyeong's hair length). I was scared during the process and thought heck I am so gonna regret this, what the fudge have I done but fudge it if I don't like it I will just tie my hair and let it grow. As I look in the mirror and see my new haircut, I was suprisingly not crying and I kind of like it until it grew on me and loved it. Now, I am watching this video thinking of how I could style my hair and I'm happy. I replied to your comment because I have felt how you feel. I am not 100% sure that you will also have the same satisfaction I have when I cut my hair but I just want you to know that you might surprise yourself and like it too and if not, you can blame the random internet person who commnted on your post and fudge it, your hair will grow back.
Sorry for the long post. Keep your hair long, cut it, dye it, whatever, as long as you choose your happiness and it will not hurt anyone then go for it 😊
@Kaitlin Pages cut it, do it
언니가 금손이에요...그냥 보는 재미로 영상을 보는 거지 절대 내가 직접 따라할 수 없다는 게 함정
なるほど。この人と長さは同じでも、私は毛量と癖がひどいから、同じようにならないのか。うん。
ごめんなさい。あまりにこの人が可愛いから、動画開きましたが、この人が可愛いかったので、癒しにはなりました🥰
それなぁ。ピンでとめるだけでコテで挟める毛量になるっていうのがちょっとわからない。でもかわいい。
低い温度で何回もアイロンするより
高い温度で少ない数でやったほうが
髪にいいってすんごく納得です(ˊᗜˋ)
You guys with your pretty face shapes that go well with any hairstyle, I can't relate💔
But I'm still gonna do it anyway.
Same 😔
Stop being so hard to yourself and to others, then you will see you are beautiful, just like other people are beautiful too. I never received a bad comment from a man because of my clothes, extra pounds or lack of makeup. You women are rude.
true, my mistake. Of course people are rude because they are insecure
@@LuisaH2022 wtf is going on with you? You're the one who being rude here
@@LuisaH2022 Says the rude person.
4:33
도영님이 하실 때:청순발랄
내가 할 때:메두사
Yes! Something for medium hair length! I just cutted my own hair like her length, and it’s totally cute for fall seasons.
2:48 可愛すぎる巻き方🥰
とても可愛いです！😍初心者で少し難しく感じたのでSカールのやり方をもっと詳しくみたいです！日本語字幕ありがとうございます💕
와.... 저...... 아기낳기 전 단발로 자르다가 진짜 겨우겨우 머리 길어서 거지존인데 너무 우울했거든요..? 와... 근데 지금 영상을 왜 이제서야 본건지.. 아니 본게 정말 다행이라고 생각하며 아기 재우고 지금 이 저녁에 화장대로 가서 6가지 머리 다 연습해봤는데 드디어 예쁘게 머리하고 나가고 싶은 마음이 불끈불끈!! 넘 감사해여 저에게 용기와 힘을 주었습니당 오늘부로 구독과 좋아요 시작됬습니당💓
I just cut my hair to this exact length!! Perfect timing
흑흑 이건 그냥 언니가 금손인거 아닌가요ㅠㅠ 얼굴도 예쁘신데 스타일링도 잘하시다니ㅜㅜ 불공평 하네요 정말..ㅠㅠㅠ
I don't know why I never thought to curl my hair into the first one. It's so simple but genius. Thank you!
윗머리빵실한거보다
안빵실해보이는
묶은머리가젤잘어울리시네요
All hair styles are pretty but my fav is the last one! i can't wait to cut my hair to medium length and styling it! Thank you for the wonderful tips
막 묶어도 예쁠 얼굴인데 스타일링까지 잘하심..
언니 파마해도 되게 잘어울릴거같은디❤️❤️
아시죠,, 본판이 예쁘셔서 다 소화 하시는거ㅠㅠ
저 중단발이라서 참고하러 왔는데 그냥 예쁘세요 !
좋은 헤어 스퇄 얻어 갑니다 •_•🤍
저 지금 거지존인데ㅠㅠㅠㅠ완전 좋은 영상❤️
왜 난 따라해도 안 되는 것인가....이언니는 예전부터 느꼈지만 정말 손재주가 좋으셔....(제가 많이 사랑해요 언니)❤️
언니 너무 예뻐요.. 매일 영상 3개씩 보고자요.. 봤던거 또보고 또보고..
너무 예뻐요..예뻐요 그냥 예쁘단 말밖엔..
언니....밀투가.....너무....뽀쨕해요....너무예뻐...
I recently cut my hair to same length as hers and couldn’t figure out how to style it and this video really helped me! The 5th style is probably my favorite. Thank you
heyy when using flat iron, shld I apply any hair treatment or oil? Shld I wash my hair beforehand? I'm an absolute beginner and I really don't want to ruin my hair. I watched vids but each say diff things...help out ur girl please 😭
@@YoGirl-zj9lf u can wash ur hair, let it dry and use heat protection spray before using the flat iron
@@kama7818 Thank you!! Do I need to spray anything after using the iron?
Also just asking, what happens if I use iron on oily hair or unwashed hair,
@@YoGirl-zj9lf hehe i can help u u dont need to wash ur hair before using the flat iron and the oil makes ur hair more mosturized (i never use it haaha but u can its good for ur hair)
@@jenniferxia5512 ohh thanks lol I hv heard that it'll fry your hair and i was like ??!
솔직히 이거보고 여러번 반했습니다ㅠ
이쁘신데 스타일링하시니까 더 이쁘시네요ㅠㅠ 참고로 여중생인데 언니한테 반해버렸어욬ㅋㅋ
모든 스타일링이 전부 너무 어울리네요! 넘 예뻐 보여♡
유용한 영상 정말 감사해요 1번 스타일링 따라해봤는데 똥손인 저도 성공했어요!!
장발에서 앞머리도 자르구 중단발 하고 왔는데 생각보다 너무 잘어울려서 스타일링이 하고싶어지는거.. 그래서 영상 찾이봤더니 완전 이쁜 영상 찾았어요..!! 물결헤어 스타일 갠적으루 너무 마음에 들어서 바로 해봤더니.. 보영님 만큼은 아니지만 이쁘더라 구용.. 감사합니다!!💕
유튜브 알고리즘이 절 여기까지 끌고왔는데 넘 귀여우셔서 다보고가용
똥머리 찰떡이세여 ㅜㅜㅜㅜ
도진이언니랑 도영이언니 둘다 진짜 진심 너무 예뻐용 ㅜㅜㅜ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
기냥.... 아무머리나 하셔도 이쁜분이신듯...ㅠㅠ
I just recently cut my hair short. I'm so happy RUclips recommended me your tutorial. I can't wait to try this ❤️
헐ㅠㅠ 거지존을 매력존으로 변신하시다니 ㅠㅠ 도영언니는 어떻게 스타일링해도 이쁘세요♥️🍍
도영도영이님 항상 영상잘보고가요!!!!!~^^
ㅎㅎㅎㅎㅎ♡♡♡♡♡ 매일 영상올리신거볼때마다 좋아요와 댓글많이많이 남길게요!!!!!~^^
ㅎㅎㅎㅎㅎ♡♡♡♡♡
솔직히 물결펌이 젤 잘어울려요👍
♥️내가 볼라고해논 타임라인❤️
1:25 기본 자갈치
3:42 아무거나웨이브
6:24 단정한 씨컬
9:00 물결웨이브+앞머리펌
11:15 똥머리방법
사투리 너모 기여어요ㅜㅜㅜ중간 중간에 나오는 사투리 너무 깜찍>
凄い努力したんだなって思います
尊敬です😭
썸넬보고 머리보다는 그냥 얼굴 보러 들어왔어요💘 너무 예쁜 거 아닌가요 ❔
이 채널에서 가장 사랑받는 동영상입니다. 당신을 정말 사랑합니다.💬❤️💬
익숙한 얼굴이다 했더니 도진님 언니셨군요!!❤️
도영이 언니도 매력존💛
말씀해주시는거 보면 엄청 쉽고 간단한데 실제 해보면 이런머리가 안나오네요 ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ... 많이 연습해봐야겠죠ㅜㅜ 왜 내가 하면 삼각김밥이 되는지... 오늘도 머리 묶고 나갑니다...☆
와 언니 이런 유용한 영상 넘나 칭찬해여ㅠㅜ저는 중단발은 아니지만 딱 가슴 윗선까지오는 길어보이는것 같은데 아닌것같기도 한 엄청 애매한 머리길이거든요ㅠㅠ층도 마니 쳐져잇어서 고데기로 무조건 씨컬만 하고 다니는데 이영상보니까 비스무리하게 따라해봐도 될거가타여ㅠㅜㅠ중단발이신분들께도 너무나도 도움 많이될거 같네여ㅠㅜㅠ이영상 조회수 1위 예상해여ㅋㅋ언니는 중단발도 세상 잘어울리ㅠㅠㅠㅠㅎㅎ구독자도 벌써 40만명 넘으셧네여ㅠㅜㅜ50만때 오프라인 이벤트 또 해주세여❤헤헤😚 늘 알차고 유용한영상 감사해여~ ❤❤❤언제나도영곁에❤❤❤
어제 머리잘라서 똥머리 어떻게 해야할 지 고민이였는데 마침 이런 영상이,,,💛💛
도영님 영상만 꼬박 기달렸어요ㅠㅠㅠ기다린 보람이 있네영 중단발 너무 잘어울려요❗🥰 나중에 머리 자르고 해봐야겠어영
너무 예쁘시고 잘하셔서 봤더니.. 내 최애 유튜버!! 찾았습니다~!!!!!!!!!❤️
どれもこれも可愛すぎるて…♡
말도 이쁘게 하시고 얼굴도 이쁘고 손도 금손이네요. 유익한 비디오 감사해요.
とっても分かりやすいしどれも似合っていて素敵です♥️
얼굴이 워낙 이쁘셔서 막해도 이쁘시잖아요....🤦🏻♂️❤️
중단발 너무 찰떡이에요 언니ㅜㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠ사랑해요
최고의 헤어손질 방법이네요. ^^
you look so adorable in those hairstyles and it makes me want to cut my hair short but I know I’ll regret it?? haha just gonna continue watching more of such videos to convince myself that it’ll be a good idea.
tomato omg wait did you cut it?
일본어 자막이 있어서 알기 쉬웠어요. 너무 귀여웠고 참고되었어요! 제대로 번역하지 않았다면 죄송합니다
参考になりますしかわいいです😭❤️なまりがあるんでしょうか？発音がかわいい、、
어쩜 이렇게 다 잘어울리졔 ..
they’re so cute~ my hair is too long to do them though haha
Flipping the ends with flat iron works on hair that reaches your hips too
Luisa H really? thank you so much! 💕
@@LuisaH2022 heyy when using flat iron, shld I apply any hair treatment or oil? Shld I wash my hair beforehand? I'm an absolute beginner and I really don't want to ruin my hair. I watched vids but each say diff things...help out ur girl please 😭
@@YoGirl-zj9lf stop using flat iron, curling iron or any other heat styling products. I just wash my hair with shampoo and condition twice afterwards. Sometimes I apply oil on damp to wet hair. Normally I keep my hair up in a bun which further protects my hair from damage (rubbing on clothes, weather, pets and kids playing with it etc)
웨이브 넣고 반묶음 너무 예뻐요 진짜ㅠㅠㅠ
日本語字幕、ありがたいです！
반묶음, 똥머리 ... 진짜 너무 꿀팁 감사드려요 내일 당장 해볼게요 2년전 영상이지만 저에게 지금 완전 개꿀 영상이에요😍❤️
急におすすめに出てきたんだけど、かわいい！！！！
도영님은 진짜 쉽게 하셨는데 저는 왜이리 어려운걸까요ㅠㅠㅠ 장렬하게 망하고 파마 다짐합니다..
me watching this the night before banquet LOL; thank you for this ! the way you explained everything was very easy to follow (:
언닌 얼굴도 이쁘신데 너무 예쁘게 자라셨네요...❤
2:52からどうなってるのか分からない、、
그냥 얼굴이 너무 이쁘셔서 어떤걸 해도 어울리심...ㅜㅜ
내가 요즘 이런거 많이 찾고 있는거 어떻게 알구 ㅠㅠㅠㅜ 딱 내일 해야되서 찾고 있었는뎅 언니 사랑해요. ㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠ❤️❤️❤️❤️
이 비디오가 제 목숨을 구했어요!!! 너무 고맙다
she's so pretty and cute im in love, and the way she talks so gently :(( + I'm planning on cutting my hair the same length and this video is just the best
보다보니 언니 얼굴이 다한 머리스타일링 영상이었다❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
when i had longer hair buns were my life, but i cut my hair short and i always couldnt tie buns because of the hair sticking out... but omg! because of your method, i'll be tying buns again!! how did i not think of that simple method!! thank u so much
그냥 언니가 사랑스럽게 생겼어요..
I wish it’s simple as it looks. But my hands won’t follow 😂🙊
Thank you for your video🤍
You look so pretty and cute 😊
not hate but its surgery its not her real face lol
@@Ivone58 really ?, I can’t tell. she’s still pretty tho. Her personality seems also nice and easygoing as well. Pretty for me is not only the face and I’m quite open about PS , so it’s okay. There’s nothing wrong with wanting to be pretty.
Thank you for letting me know 😊
@@ilada230795 yeah its okay she is still cute i dont care if she had surgery 😂 haha
@@Ivone58 right! 😁
언니는 얼굴이 다해요,,
3:30 for myself for easier reference
My hair are like that when I tie my hair for a long time lol 😂
But I don’t look good, because my head is big while my body is not
똥머리 두번묶는거 완전꿀팁이네요!!! 내일당장해볼게요 ㅎㅎㅎ 지금 딱 이 머리길이라서.. 감사합니다
ちょっと訛ってるのが可愛いです🥰
長さが同じくらいなのでとっても参考になります！
언니 ,,,, 일단 준비물이 언니 얼굴이자나여 ㅠ̑̈ 뭘 해도 잘어울리는데 ,,,,,,
11:50 かわいい！
3:34에 대충 묵는거라고 하시지만 너무 예쁜거 아니에요?❤️❤️
how to use curling iron on the back of the hair? when using it, my fingers are often exposed to curling iron 😭
거지존 스타일링 팁 넘무 고마와요 ^..^
I Exactly have medium hair!😍
A. R same!! 😂😍
Same l just cut my hair
A. R I have short hair :’|
헐 썸네일 보고 너무 이쁘고 귀여우셔서 홀린 듯 들어옴 갸악갸아악
Step 1: have a natural pretty hair and a face shape that's perfect for any hairstyle
모든 스타일링 전부 맘에 들어요! 딱 중단발인데 일주일 매일 번갈아가면서 이렇게 해야징
Your hair is so beautiful so can I ask you "what is the brand of your hair straightener ?" ? Please tell me, thank you !!!!
Vodana Flat Bar Iron đó bạn, mình đọc trong description box thấy ghi vậy á
@@satuvunguyen8047 wowwww cảm ơn bn nha !!! Hihi
Its Vodana
와 진짜 거지존 스타일링 딴거 다필요없고 이거만 보면될듯;;
かわいい...🥰
She is korean i believe
저도 지금 머리 길이가 굉장히 애매한 중단발 길이인데 스타일링 할 때 항상 고민을 많이 하게 되는 것 같아요. 근데 영상을 보니 고데기만 있으면 생각보다 할 수 있는 스타일링이 많았네요! 유익한 영상 정말 감사합니다!
Ayy me encantaron los peinados 😍😍aunque no entendí ni una palabra pero me ayudó mucho
Super cute! I have the same length of hair
I love hair and makeup videos, this video was so nice. Thank you so much, but my hair is longer and I don't know if it'll work the same. I don't want to experiment, because I don't want to damage my hair. No other youtubers have the kind of videos I want with longer hair like you. That's okay though because your videos are always fun.