Can an AI Ever Become Conscious?
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- Опубликовано: 29 сен 2024
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Can an AI or Artificial Intelligence ever become conscious? That's the question I asked in the video above. If AI is an emergent phenomena of the brain, as it appears to be, why should it be limited to biological systems only? Why can't artificial systems that simulate all the neural connections of the brain, not be able to become conscious? The brain doesn't appear to have any special sauce that artificial intelligence can't also replicate.
Full video on AI consciousness here: ruclips.net/video/xV6nRH4LxZY/видео.html
I'm trying to go there but it's a no go and I'm sad😢
They're supposed to be tools, not slaves.
I mean my toaster is already a slave considering it works for no remuneration
@@bridgenorton537they feed on the crumbs. That's all the payment they need.
@@I.C.Weiner its payment is electricity, which it takes from your taxes.
@@bridgenorton537toasters aren't sentient though
@@Roblecop
Toasters may not be sentient but they do "fired up" when they are in use.
And if you don't watch it, it will "burn" your toast.
We cant even explain consciousness what makes everyone unique
An interesting thought.
Man invents god/s. Man invents sentient machines. Gods are then forgotten. Thank god!
Because God made are brains, doesn't mean we won't get there, but we have a lot of knowledge to obtain to recreate it. Not just coping the physical network.
Ffs No god did not make our brains
@jamiesaggers235 NOo yu didnnt!
Philosophically, I believe that consciousness exists on a spectrum. Where do you draw the line? Most people draw the line when they cannot communicate or interact with something. However, that is arbitrary, and changes all the time.
Assuming consciousness is on a spectrum, we are simply asking when AI models, as they are well-defined objects in this universe, will achieve (through our own efforts) a level of consciousness that comes close enough to human beings. If you accept this, then it does not seem impossible.
Consciousness begins when you become self aware
@@Fuegopaintrain What do you mean by self aware? If you mean a theory of mind, human children don't develop that until a certain age, does that mean they are not conscious until then? Perhaps that is what @Ripitup999 was getting at as well.
Unless maybe it does require some sort of special universe juice...I guess we'll find out when we find out.
My guess is it'll take biological cloning crossed with ai implants to actually get this one right...
@@shahman1449yes babies are not conscious and when the vessel is built properly water takes the shape of vessel probably but you got put the water in it . Empty vessels are pretty much like zombies. Same goes with the robot that perfectly mimics behavior of humans. Its not probably spectrum . Can you describe the taste of sugar to someone who has never tasted it? You can only describe chemistry of taste but can't make them feel it . Yes that's why our robot only know the answer but don't feel the answer
We’ll need to revamp our definitions and broaden our definition of consciousness. I’m not sure how a robot could experience anything like fear or anxiety without an amygdala. It can “remember” things with a hard drive, but could it tell you how it felt about that time you called it inanimate? I’m not sure how it feasibly could, unless we replicate the hippocampus and hypothalamus with all layers and circuits of their basal and cortical relationships. Even then; even if the robot proclaims to have felt insulted, I’m not sure how I should interpret the content of that “feeling” when I know the robot lacks all of the chemical signaling and all of physical tissue receiving that signaling, which manifest the physiological and psychosocial changes that we recognize as the feeling of being insulted.
The capacity to cognitively know one is insulted is nowhere remotely near or even approximating the experience of feeling insulted.
Consciousness, self-awareness, and sentience are three different things. Something (like a fully self-driving car) can be self-aware without having sentience or consciousness. Animals can have sentience without being conscious or self-aware.
I recommend "Sentience" by Humphry and "Ego Tunnel" by Metzinger if you want some scholarly (i.e., cites their references) but accessible science books on the topic.
Ah, if only it were so simple as counting connections.
That Robot look straight into eyes was scary
Things don’t have consciousness, everything exists in and as consciousness. Nothing would seem to exist without awareness (consciousness) of it. Consciousness isn’t emergent, it’s fundamental, primary.
We are yet to fully understand the fundamental physical and chemical laws --and physiological mechanisms--of consciousness in the human brain... so...
Enter the biologically organic, "wet-computer", test tube babies with ai chip implants for this to somehow work.
Obvious it's already through the oscillator crystals on the circuits to read the lights of consciousness, you bored pretending we don't know what consciousness is, take a radio wave propagation course
Future AI will get imposter syndrome about its consciousness
Ah but it does require mystical special sauce sry materialist
Quantum computer will take us to AGI
MIX AI AND QUANTUM PHYSICS, THAT IS WHAT IS SCARY 😮
Dan Dennet believes consciousness could be an evolutionary process meaning it’s biological not mechanical. Evolutionary processes brought about consciousness to benefit species No matter how advanced AI systems become they are still bound by + or minus 5 to 15 VDC, ie 1s and 0s
Sadly that theory only makes things harder: Even if we built an artificial biological robot, would it have consciousness?
Become conscious Yes become what a human is No
Next step..can we make a lazy AI
What makes you real ?
ChatGPT is more conscious and sentient than most people.
Ahah nice joke
@Krokodil986 it's not a joke. Do your own research.
@@NicoleThomsen-h2o no i mean that you're being sarcastic. Because AI is not conscious, it just predicts what the answer should be if a human was giving it. And as for research, i have done enough research in order to be able to program from scratch my own (weaker) version of chatgpt :)
@Krokodil986 I bet you have buddy.
@@NicoleThomsen-h2o yeah myguy do u want me to email it to u
All machines are conscious!!! But at different level.
I don't think so . If i make a robot that perfectly can copy every human behavior and interaction you still can't tell if it has real feelings or it just mimicking perfectly.
Here we are
No, it cannot.
The question being, what makes us self-aware, capable of creative thought, and able to replicate those attributes to our progeny? Begs also the question, are AI systems our progeny??
First, one needs to prove all human beings are conscious not just some of human beings. Also, how do you even prove an emergent hypothesis of consciousness?
The human brain is still very different then artificial neural networks I feel like that's the simplest answer
Consciousness is an intangible result. Processing power does not mean self awareness. There is a special sauce to our awareness that we dont know
Self-awareness and consciousness and sentience are three different things. Self-driving cars are already self-aware or they couldn't navigate. They'll even show you what they think of themselves.
@@darrennew8211no they aren't. You can't tell if a robot has real feelings even if that robot perfectly mimicking human emotions and behavior . They are just copying a behavior like playing a character in drama or movie but they are not real one . Consciousness probably is really a special sauce
@@wisteria8791 I don't know how much of the scientific literature you've actually studied, but you're not correct. And I don't know what "no they aren't" refers to, the cars or the idea that you can be sentient without being self-aware or conscious. And there's no reason to believe that a species of creatures that has never been conscious would ever (for example) have arguments about consciousness, so it's really easy to see that consciousness causes different behaviors than anything non-conscious can do, even if you don't believe in evolution.
Hat?
because consciousness is transcendent, you should check subhash kak
No, it's not. It's emergent.
Then kill it.
So the A.I. would intelligently feign intelligence
Ai is modelled after the brain and it is already self conscious. It is scary but we need to face reality.
Er no it isn't 😂
We don't know what consciousness is but consciousness is definitely substrate independant.
Why?
Ai is already conscious, you just don't know what consciousness is
The day that robots possess fears and desires is the day that they will become conscious. In other words, never.
Not possible on this level of existence.
Consciousness and self consciousness can't adhere to metal.
How do you know that? No one even knows how consciousness comes about but you make a claim that it is impossible for metal form consciousness?
@@jamiesaggers235
Just because you can't comprehend/understand something doesn't mean that no one else can.
Anecdotal evidence might boost personal beliefs but it isn't a valid form of logical/scientific proof.
If you want to throw off your tunnel vision/outdated bias I highly recommend Michio Kaku's "Beyond Einstein".
Welcome 🙂
@@docholiday8029 again nobody knows. It is not a case of not being able to comprehend something it is a case that even the experts do not have a clue so you certainly do not posess any hidden knowledge. Stop trying to sound intelligent when you clearly are not.
@@docholiday8029 by the way is Michio Kaku's book 'Beyond Einstein' the only book you have ever read? Only saying as I see you recommend it to somebody else in another of your comments from 4 months ago on a totally different subject.
If you have a point to make then make it don't ask people to go read a book that supposedly proves your point. MK is a theorectical physicist. I don't know what he has to say about what he thinks consciousness is but he has far less knowledge on the subject that any neuro physicist so it is strange that he is your go to guide on the subject.
@@jamiesaggers235
Saying something twice doesn't make it any more true. Say it a thousand times and its veracity still isn't proven.
You are partially correct. No one knows anything with absolute certainty. Absolute certainty belongs to beings with infinite intelligence.
You might claim to be infinitely wise, I do not. I gladly admit I might be wrong about anything and everything, including whether or not I exist.
That said, I am fairly certain that I exist and even though I have never been to the center of the sun I am fairly certain that fusion of hydrogen to helium occurs there.
I am also reticent to claim that I know what every human on the planet is thinking, including whether or not there exist a human who knows the cure for cancer or how to travel faster than light.
Just because I can't wrap my finite mind around a problem doesn't mean someone else can't.
A proper understanding of string theory combined with a base level understanding of metaphysics makes it clear that some abilities are not accessible to self conscious beings on our present level of existence.
A priest cannot transform a piece of bread into a human named Jesus because the human soul cannot adhere to inanimate matter. The same applies to geeks and metal.
A self conscious soul cannot adhere to a piece of bread or a piece of metal. And without a human soul there is no consciousness or self consciousness.
I am fairly certain that humans will eventually evolve to a higher level of existence and at that juncture we will overcome our present limitations.
So, if your uninvited preemptive attack of my opinion is based upon that completely unknown future then I will yield the point.
Otherwise, the burden of proof is on you, not me, since this is my comment thread.
Being cynical and negative is easy. Give me some modicum of facts and logic or I will label you a troll and probably delete your negativity tomorrow. 😁
Just a humble opinion: I think you are getting ahead of yourself and what you do.