The scandal that BROKE Australia
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- Опубликовано: 22 сен 2024
- Welcome to our in-depth exploration of RoboDebt, a significant and controversial chapter in Australia's welfare history. In this video, we unravel the complexities of RoboDebt, a government initiative intended to recover overpaid social security benefits, and examine its far-reaching impact on the lives of many Australians.
RoboDebt was introduced in 2016 by the Australian Government with the goal of identifying and reclaiming overpayments made to welfare recipients. The system employed an automated data-matching process that compared individuals' income reported to Centrelink with their reported earnings from the Australian Taxation Office. Any discrepancies led to debt notices being issued.
At first glance, RoboDebt seemed like an efficient way to safeguard public funds. However, the reality was far more problematic. The automated system often generated incorrect debt notices due to flawed data matching, causing undue stress and financial hardship for countless individuals, including some of the nation's most vulnerable populations.
In our video, we delve into the human stories behind the statistics. We share personal accounts from those who received erroneous debt notices and explore the emotional and financial toll it took on them. These narratives highlight the real-world consequences of relying too heavily on automated systems without adequate human oversight.
We also cover the legal battles that ensued, culminating in a landmark class-action lawsuit against the government. In 2020, the Federal Court ruled that the RoboDebt scheme was unlawful, leading to a settlement of $1.2 billion in refunds and compensation to affected individuals.
Finally, we examine the broader implications of the RoboDebt saga. What lessons can be learned about the use of automation in government services? How can we ensure that technology serves to enhance, rather than undermine, social justice?
Join us as we dissect RoboDebt, shedding light on this critical issue and its implications for the future of welfare systems worldwide. Don't forget to like, comment, and subscribe for more insightful content.
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4:24 "Prior to 2016 the onus of proof was still on the government." Not true. The "robo" in robodebt referred to the automated process of issuing debt notices without oversight; it was not because an automatic presumption of guilt was a new addition to the way debts were pursued.
I was working at Services Australia and almost lost my contract after I mentioned to someone I'd been stung with Robo-Dept twice and both times had to prove my innocence. My boss rang me the next day to say "we aren't allowed to use THAT word"..... Pathetic. .
Did you give a frank and fearless response? Or did you take the "I'm just following orders" option?
Edit: sorry, that was harsh. I also worked at Services Australia at the time. I knew I was seeing incorrect debts and referred customers to the "correct" (as we'd been instructed) team to have them reviewed. It wasn't until the Royal Commission that I found out the "correct" team were being prevented from reviewing the debts properly. Any 'frank and fearless' heroes asking awkward questions were moved elsewhere. It made every single one of us look dodgy and I'm going to be furious about it for a long time.
It is pathic, like a guilt reaction to the truth. Better suppress it.
@@retyroni Thank you for your services, only reason the whole thing even managed to stay together was because of the people on the ground, as bad as it was for some so many still relied on your assistance. Enough bad things have to happen sometimes to show everyone the real reality of it all, so we are compelled to change it sooner. Maybe god sent you to do what many couldn't
: D ... further more .... my boss actually said "we don't use that word around here. It's like Voldimort"... I was thinking.... "I'm in my 50s couldn't she at lest give me a Star Wars reference?" I was on a short contract to do an intranet site, but the contract got cancelled the next week due to CV lockdowns. ..... an no, I didn't say anything because $$$.
SOMETHING SIMILAR HAPPENED IN THE UK POST. SET AN EXAMPLE AND PROSECUTE THE POLITICIANS _ FORCING _ PEOPLE _ TO _ SUICIDE ****DISGUSTING
Thank you for exploring robo-debt.
These ministers have blood on their hands and it feels they all got away scott-free.
I wish they'd go after the people really defrauding Australians: the friggin billionaires!
Yes and also the people who I hear have been defrauding the.ndis
@@davidh6300 they still aren't ripping as much out of our hands, mate.
@Jaq2Jack have you been around the NDIS system or anyone disabled with no guardian beacuse they end up getting fkd around and there 40k-500k allowance that they actually need too live and pay for medical ends up going too some private organisation same shit goes on in foster care we get sold off too private Foster orgs the government doesn't check any of this stuff
Ooooo! Bloood! These Satana minions did not want to give us Our Deserved Money!
Those high-ranking public servants responsible will get away Scott Free, just like Robbodebt's father Morrison.
WHY didn't the NACC pursue the 6 public servants as recommended by the Robodebt Commission? Names have to be NAMED! There cannot be closure for those who suffered under this terrible system until that happens.
IMHO this has been misreported by the media. the NACC is an investigatory body, not a judicial one. Their job is to find evidence and, if sufficient, provide it to the DPP to prosecute a case. This has effectively already been done by the Royal Commission, now the ball is in the court of the APSC (who are taking action on 5/6 of the named persons) and potentially the DPP for further prosecution of the matter. However I agree that it does merit close scrutiny from the public and we should be deeply concerned if these matters simply get swept aside
@@imagifyerif and when they do get swept aside, what can we do?
Absolutely nothing.
Nacc is now being investigated for not investigating Robodebt @@imagifyer
There has been a culture in western societies, I believe implemented through the WEF of non-accountability. It demoralises citizens and makes them feel powerless, thus handing more power over to governments and corporations. If you condition citizens to expect governments to be incompetent and corporations not to be prosecuted for tax evasion, then thats what will become the status quo. The Labour Government announced yesterday that it is going to start having in-house auditors and consultants, which will take the power/abuse away from big firms like PricewaterhouseCoopers that have been fk#ng the Australian tax payer to the tune of Billions. I won't believe it till I see it. But at least their obituary has been written, now bury the ba$t @ r D's.
Utterly disgraceful
Morrison, Tudge, Robert and Campbell should all be in jail
But instead there on million dollar salaries because they gave big business tax breaks while in power.
"Responsible for holding the Cabinet line"... And this right here is why Australia is such a crusty bunghole island. This, this right here. Hear no evil, see no evil, speak no evil and all that malarkey.
This country is so corrupt.. banks, corporations, governments bla bla bla..makes everyone sick to death .
THE LUCKY CUNTRY.
The damning and the sad saga of Robodebt, should’ve made the Liberals/Nationals unelectable for a very long time. However the media are making sure that Australians forget about this, and are trying to get them back in again.
Never underestimate the obtuseness of the brainwashed ignorant australian voter!
Yet the media still ignored this. They acted like they were stunned when it came out, despite then ignoring it and not caring. Now they've gone back to not caring
There seems to be a culture of convict/working class/ 'we are not worthy' attitude when it comes to receiving unemployment benefits. It's almost taboo to talk about or say your receiving Centrelink, so people seem reluctant to stand up for the unemployed and intermittent workers. So it's not just a media thing, it's a cultural attitude of 'your not entitled to anything', your a burden. And the media play it because they are connected to mining/big business. The Government gave recently in just 1 of many deals $100 Billion of FREE gas to an energy company as part of a deal? So they were trying to claw back 4.5 billion with Robodebt but giving away 100 Billion🤯 They need to keep the public thinking the unemployed are scammers on the tax payer so we don't notice them stealing hundreds of billions of our common wealth.
Another Murdoch media banger
I remember a kid killed him self because he was told he owns Centrelink money but he never worked because he studied he was stressed out but because of the robot Dept i was very shocked
Chasing after the little people for non-existent Centrelink debts but letting corporations get away with stealing billions from JobKeeper is peak LNP
they should all be in jail but they all just walk away
They'll do it again.
WE THE PEOPLE ENFORCE TREASON LAWS
Corporate courts
Corporate cops
Corporate military
Corporate government
THEY DONT POLICE THEMSELVES
THEY ARE ILLEGITIMATE
@@darthex0 yep they will
with huge payouts, cushy corporate consultancy jobs and qantas card for life
@@UziMusic true
I remember my shock when finding out over 2000 people committed suicide due to this. And i was wondering how many more were broken, mentally destroyed with long term health issues caused by this. when your own government and the people who work there do this kind of a massacre to Australians it shows you how we are seen and cared for. And how much duplicity and hypocrisy we are experiencing.
Where is coward corrupt albo? What dirty deal did he made with tax dodger parasite murdoch?
Too few. Beggars not needed.
@@antontsau - Just keep voting for the Leopards Eating People's Faces party. I'm sure they'll never eat yours.
@@RictusHolloweye as mentioned this is not people. People work and live on their own expense, not on govt welfare and free food like monkeys in zoo.
@@antontsau
Are you insane??!
Do you realise that the vast majority of the people who got hit with the Robo-Debt notices *_never_* owed **_anything_** , or at most a _fraction_ of what they were told they did? My brother was hit with something like an $18,000+ debt -- the anguish that that false debt brought our family can *NEVER* be erased - I'm only grateful that he never became one of those poor individuals -- we still live with the fact that my brother *was* near-suicidal, & my mother made herself sick with worry over repayment of money that we simply didn't have.
While it was _eventually_ cleared up; the weeks & months of pain & tears that my family suffered- that **thousands** of families suffered, was never truly apologised for. We are not 'beggars'- my brother was working two jobs to make ends meet at the time- & he now works with veterans - my mother has a degenerative condition, & she *still* spent uncounted hours & weeks looking for every payslip & double-checking everything she could, despite how much it hurt her hips (she's also had a double hip replacement) & spine.
However much I despise an uncaring fool like you- I would not wish that time of misery on anyone...
This just proves what mean little people the Liberals are
And Labor is happy to protect the perpetrators.
@@Sailaboat
They did everything in their power to pursue those who are responsible for the matter.
The role of Government is not judicial, the Royal Commission into the matter was all they could really do.
The Royal Commission has turned all relevant evidence and testimony over to the appropriate law enforcement and judicial bodies to pursue legal action.
It's out of the Labor Government's hands what happens to the accused. Legilative and judicial branches of Government do, nor should they ever, have power in either of thier counterparts jurisdiction.
If they did, we would be more of an Authoritarian State or Dictatorship.
Thankfully we are not, or the likes of the Coalition would have abused such power long ago.
People work and earn income. Welfare gainers count separately.
You can be both a taxpayer and receive well earned benefits when your insecure work fails you. @@antontsau
If you think the Liberals are bad. Wait until you see what Labor will do to Australia in the next 6 months.
I would say the biggest insult is that Scott Morrison still retains #noregrets over robodebt according to the Nemesis documentary. Saying it was necessary to bring the budget "back in black".
An ironic justification considering it cost the taxpayer more money than it brought in.
Who would have guessed that extorting money from unemployed people wouldn't be the path to riches?!
holy crap did you buy and read that did you?
@@gardengnome3249 ???? How can I buy and read a doco that was on the ABC and thus Iview?
Thanks for making this video Mr M
Thanks Aidan!
It is vile and disgusting that all of the people responsible for what essentially amounts to wilful murder, are all walking around free of any responsibility. In some cases they were gifted golden life long pensions, golden parachutes, and highly lucrative MASSIVE paying jobs in the private sector.
Ask yourself, if YOU did this tomorrow, what do you think would happen to you when you were caught?
You would face life in jail, that’s what.
This is Australia, we don't prosecute politicians or public servants.
She'll be right Mate! The most corrupt, obtuse brainwashed nation in the wetern world!
They've fixed the laws so they can't be prosecuted - where else in the world does someone get away with this ??????????????
We only prosecute them when they blow the whistle.
Eddie Obied, Ian MacDdonald.
How many were charged and convicted of manslaughter?
The NACC has decided not follow up on this after the royal commission referred the case to NACC. Reasons given “it’s oppressive to investigate people again”
@@Anonymous-m9f9j btw the NACC is being investigated for this decision atm
@@Anonymous-m9f9j Nacc is now being investigated for not investigating Robodebt.
I remember when my mom got caught up in this problem thankfully she had her old documents to clear it up ( she holds it for up to 9 years before getting rid of them) but I feel for those who didn’t
I keep my tax returns for over 20 yrs because there's been so many mistakes
Mom?
It is disappointing that not a single case has yet to be prosecuted. This is my comment and like for the algorithn
What a great video! Thanks for covering such an important topic!
The moral of the story is the law only applies to you not public servants.
I had picked a few of these ministers as psychopaths or very least sociopaths. Imagine going after the poorest people and trying to extort them for money. People are dead because of their evil wrong doings. And they could not care less. I was hit with a $2500 debt. I have always been totally honest in my dealings with Centrelink. So I was very surprised. I told them they were mistaken and fought them. A month later, in a letter, they owned up to their error and the debt was wiped. My accountant said I was lucky as 'they' never admit to their mistakes.
These poor souls where sacrificed so that these criminals could ward off AI checking on them now.
criminally early. I love your videos! Thankyou for uploading fire
Thanks legend!!
Let me tell you guys a open secret in Canberra.
Never have a royal commission into something you don't already know the answer to.
Now that is totally true. I remember the Australian Wheat Board scandal in about 2000. And its Royal Commission. What a farce. Nobody could recall anything or remember anything about what they were doing.
That's the mistake the Liberal Party keeps making. They've had two Royal Commissions into unions and, instead of finding anything to charge them with... they keep getting their own donors and allies into trouble!
Stuart Roberts, Alan Tudge, Andrew Lamming, Scott Morrison, Christian Porter, Tony Abbott, Malcolm Turnbull. Some terrible humans all out of parliment thank goodness. The gall of Dutton to talk about Albanese and Shortons joy after the Royal Commision into his parties illegal practices- what a strange and completely wrong take and blame shifting and Obfuscation with no apologyto those like myself that this policy mercilessly hounded.
It is definitely time people are held accountable!!!!!!
This is not a failure of policy...it was a failure of bureaucracy. What a surprise.
lucky plenty of people have gone to jail for this... right? ..... right?
Several thousand construction workers got massive tax fines at the end of building LNG plants in Gladstone, Queensland. Working six days a week, many for over 3 years. Paid around $10 per day as a meal allowance, accoutants said you can claim up to $28 per day, much less than government employees can claim. I had to pay $23,500 to the ATO. I had paid over $120,000 tax during my 3 years employment.
Government are thieves.
No one in power held accountable , absolute disgrace . And so much for the new secret federal ICAC not even going to investigate
8:30 the glasses can never come off
I still don’t know what his eyes look like
This sounds very similar to the Post Office scandal here in the UK.
For those who would like to know even more than this already in depth video, check out KiSL's two series on it, one covering the scheme itself, and the other unpacking the evidence given at the Royal Commission. Both are well worth your time, and are done extremely well.
Regardless, Mr.M has done a great job as usual, can't wait for the next one :)
good stuff mate love the Corey save in the middle
I was caught up in this and asked to repay $8K which I managed although it put enormous strain on me financially. Thankfully it was all repaid but I am absolutely one of the lucky ones.
did you get it back in the class action?
Another superb The Office reference. Bravo Mr M.
The government concentrates on the little guy/gal and the extra pennies these people might earn in order to correct the national debt. How about they concentrate their efforts on the miltinationals - specifically , the energy (gas) companies and get them to pay the BILLIONS they should be. Our politicians and senior public servants are pathetic.
Two things to keep in mind:
1: the government’s initial response to scrutiny was “this system is working as intended.”
2. Nothing passes through parliament without a majority vote. The Centrelink robodebt scandal could not possibly have been implemented without the complicity of labor and the greens.
The Coalition government had a majority in the house from 2013-2022 and a workable senate where they could collaborate with parties like One Nation.
They did not need the complicity of Labor and The Greens to pass robodebt.
@@khangmai6531 Robodebt was their idea.
Sickening to think when the resources of this country were shuffled out under quiet raps with no real taxation, as well as hundreds of billions generated by big tech firms with sometimes zero taxation. At least you know where you stand. To make you even more sick, I'll add that inefficient contracts and consultancies in all levels of government were handed out over 20 years worth another few hundred billion. The cherry on the cake goes to 1 billion contract handed out to a security firm which had a shed as its head office.
Thank you Mr M.History.The best coverage of the Robodebt debacle I have read.Can't wait for more of your work.
Meanwhile how many politicians did how many dodgy deals and pushed through how much biased legislation and retired from politics into high paying jobs for the groups they originally did dodgy deals with and pushed through biased legislation for?
I call that the golden parachute. I saw it in the army with the contracts. The officer would leave the army after approving the contract only to provide there expertise to the winning bid. Had a red tabber tell my company that the winning bid was the best one out of the 3 trialled. Lol one of the diggers happen to partake in the trails. The digger demolished the officer in front of the whole company. The officer said nothing and walked away as he knew he was caught out in his lie. Were heard that officer left the army is was on the board for the winning bid. We still didn't use the equipment as it was rubbish and most of the guys bought the other two companies equipment instead
We all know these politicians are bent. But what can we do about it? Not much.
@@johnkauppi7078 we have to vote more carefully - ALP and LNP last on every ballot
I remember i worked part time and every yr my hours change and my pay goes down i had to show Centrelink my pay slips for a yr for 5 yrs
Thanks Mr M History for your videos . I've been following you for the last few months and appreciate the quality of your reports and helping me understand many situations . I would love to contribute $$$ to your channel but atm am dealing with homelessness and costs of living .
No worries though , I'm fortunate to live in Australia and as a 55 year old life is good.
Regards Duncan Holgate.
Regards Duncan Holgate
Justice needs to be done. I hope the law is sufficient to supply that justice.
People NEED to go to jail for this!
My only complaint about this video is it failed to mention the hundreds of suicides it caused , I know it's a difficult subject but its important conversation that needs to had.
That is an urban myth. What was published was that debt notices were sent to 900,000 people and 2,030 died. A natural death rate for a population that size.
"There's a presumption of innocence in our country" wow that's rich. Where was that presumption for those affected by robodebt?
Almost $70b and in missing gas resources tax missing a year….. this was not for the budget, it was to be evil
"Income averaging" under Labor was used to highlight the POSIBILITY of fraud. A human was then used to check if fraud actually took place and debts only raised once fraud was proven. That was not how the Lib/Nat Coalition did it.
Robodebt was started by Shorten/ALP in 2011. coalition just took labors scheme to a fully automated scheme. It would have happened no matter who was in power.
This world is being run by computers more and more. Artificial Intelligence is the new technology. Do you think the government will use it?
ScoMao should have been charged and jailed for 2000 plus man slaughter charges
Its actually incorrect to say "The automated system often generated incorrect debt notices due to flawed data matching" as not one of the fraudulent debts identified was done so using any form of procedural fairness. It also involved multiple violations of law.
So technically and legally, NONE of the notices and NONE of the debts were correct.
All of this money and more could be acquired by properly taxing Exxon and Santos, and they did nothing. Terrible sudfering for the people, while the corporations got payouts and bail.
My robo dept came about from a short time I was on medical welfare while still working part time trying to get back in the workforce full time. Not like I was a bludger, but they still took the money out of my much needed tax return. Times were hard before they did that, and I had to scale back a holiday with my kids because of it. My youngest was heartbroken and ever since hasn't spoken to me that much.
It was the wrong name. It should be called SCOMODEBT
At the end of the day the question still is. "Who will be held to account for Robo-debt"? If you cannot hold government to account for this deadly, illegal and politically agenda driven government policy, then you cannot hold any government to account. I thought politicians stood up for the Westminster System in which politicians are held to account and they do not mislead the public or parliament.
Robo-debt proves the lie to that. I guess we no longer have the Westminster System but a new Australian version where politicians can simply walk away when ever they want, irrespective of any government failures they have caused.
If governments are not going to be held to account for their actions.......why vote?
To go after the poorest people to make up a gov shortfall is disgusting.
cheeky first 😛 Mr M covering robodebt already can gurantee this one will be a banger
Haha thanks Stefan!
This was truly a low point of Australian democracy and suggests that ministers should pass an IQ and social intelligence test before taking the appointment. The whole idea that a machine could run a government program and make the decisions that affect people's lives without human oversight, was something only a sociopath could seriously consider much less mandate. I thought Australia was better than that. Hopefully we learnt the lesson.
This world is being run by computers more and more. Artificial Intelligence is the new technology. Do you think the government will use it?
Did this"scheme" find any "welfare cheats" as my elderly father thinks it did, or totally ignore the corporate welfare "cheats" ( the ones that are encouraged by the 'government' to do so ) and just blame those without power?
Real question.
Those high-ranking public servants responsible will get away Scott Free, just like Robodebt's father Morrison.
And polling right now shows that Aussies want this party, yes the one run by Morrison, be in government again by 2025. Let that settle for a moment.
Thanks for this info. There must be something that gives us citizens more power to legally press on this corruption right?
Voting for independents.
And in September 2024 the ALP, Bill Shorten, finally came out and admitted who was actually to blame, the public servants who designed the scheme in the first place. He even named names of the public servants involved, something that rarely happens in Australian politics.
Why not more subscribers? This is an outstanding channel people!👍👍👍👍👍
they will all get away with it
Clearly illegal.
Thank you for teaching me about the Robodebt scandal, Harold the Healthy Giraffe.
Thank you Mr M.👍❤🏆
To put it in words they all were a bunch of crooks.
Nothing will happen to these criminals. Different laws for politicians and rhe rich.
And the problem with Centrelink was (and probably still is) that even if you tell them something; (in writing, because phoning them can be impossible); eg; your circumstances have changed; they don't act on it; maybe for weeks or months; and then blame the person who reported it for their failure.
great video. would recommend reading the part of the royal commission report relating to the culture at DHS, especially in the legal branch. Very dramatic stuff
You want another story? Income averaging still occurs. It is used for single parents who are meant to receive child support payments. If they get irregular payments or even if they don't get payments at all, they will still be hit with a debt based on what they *should* have received. Worse, the more care they have for their children, the larger their debt will be - for example, if they have 70% care and the other parent is meant to pay $50 a week for child support then their debt will be approximately 40% of $2600 (the annual amount that they *should* receive). If their care increases to 100% and the other parent is meant to pay $100 a week then their debt will be 40% of $5200. Even if they don't receive a cent of child support. This also happens if the other parent underestimates their income or doesn't do their tax returns.
The majority of Centrelink debts are dealt to women, through no fault of their own.
YEWWWW!
Thanks Sarah!
No worries! Absolutely love your channel ❤
0:22 i only know about last names being called sirnames because of a girl with bangs that didnt fully make it so it was a full restricted video,she didnt move stuff somewhere else.
(IT HAS SHADOW STUFF IN IT TOO,BECAUSE I JUST SHOWED YOU A SHADOW THING.).
Great video, and good coverage showing the then secretary at the times involvement.
Funny how ScoMo moved her predecessor out quickly
I got hit by robo debt. I kicked up a stink and it was immediately dismissed, fortunately. It was a couple of thousand dollars.
I got get a second robo debt when Centrelink accidentally overpaid me after I declared over the threshold and they still paid. I was ok paying that back.
So they not only didnt collect they had to pay out more, why do we still have a government system at this point?
The reason they thought they could do it is because this is how Child Support payments are worked out. I've done the right thing over the years when I found myself unemployed, and then at tax time they take it out of your tax return.
It's way cheaper and quicker for a government to go after people for small amounts of money who can't afford to fight the debt rather than 1 rich person who owes the equivalent of 1000 low income people because they can afford lawyers to fight the debt.
Robo debt, holidays whilst Australia burned amongst many other terrible things under Scummo
Good video.
It was call bad business practice with bad record keeping because you couldn't access your details to centrelink or ato for that period to be transparent. I told Robodebt you have give time to solve issue as i own them $2000 but this period was 2 years old when raised, it took 3 years later with right person who could add up to close the case.
I had work all year with 4 different farming business with different income amounts, of these two non running businesses with no payslip nor account details.
These farms were in different states, leaving my family behind to work nearly full year.
One of these business under pay me per hour but Centrelink n ato didn't give a shit.
The reality if you work you got fuck over but if sat on your ass it was ok. Not only work nearly full year but pay taxes too.
"The reality if you work you got fuck over but if sat on your ass it was ok" You seem to have fallen for the Media trick of making you blame poor people.
If you rearrange the letters of robodebt you get the word “otrobbed” as in “you got robbed”
"we will steal from you to pay people to be unemployed"
"BUT YOU BETTER GIVE IT BACK"
it's so LNP
Unemployment is NOT the biggest welfare problem.
The whole government are welfare cheats mate
If it was up to me government would be 100 people, 200 Max total. And they'd print legitimate money and create massive infrastructure projects for job creation.
Like it used to be...
And no welfare for anyone.
Jobs
@@alreadybanned-pe6se without being redeemable for gold, a currency is worthless.
But yes welfare needs to go for sure.
Infrastructure should be community driven not done by govt, they've failed completely on that one.
@frankwren8215 Then your insurance would go through the roof. Probably get mugged every time you left the pub. Keep the windows of your car open , so you wouldn't have your windows smashed by numerous petty criminals. Dufos. 😂
@@aussiviking604 utter nonsense, typical of a uniparty shill
My daughter is still getting demands to pay her Robo debt as of 04/06/2024 for the period of 2016 to 2018
What a germ. Good christian looking out for the poor
That's why I'm happy to be atheist.
@@robbrewer2036Atheism / Marxism has murdered more people than any religion in all of history
@@robbrewer2036 Me too mate
And I thank god I wasn’t on the dole when this was happening! I don’t bother with it even though I need it because they treat you like a criminal just for needing support 😢
That's why the Liberals did Robodebt. They didn't care that what they were doing was illegal, they just wanted to discourage people from going on wellfare, which is wrong on so many levels when it prevents people who need it from accessing it
The Government doesn’t care.
Why do we have an animated giraffe narating this?
How are we paying a million dollars ayear to a public servant????
This sounds like the Australian version of Britain's post office scandal.
The same disgusting mindset has unfortunately plagued the Netherlands as well
Absolute disgrace, the players responsible should go to prison
Sick ain't it no accountability. Lives lost
That Bill Shorten has to go to jail with Morrison and Turnbull. They’re all culpable for this horror crime against humanity
Why Shorten?
You obviously didn't watch the royal commission or listen to this video.
4.28 explains the criminality involving LNP only .
@@geofftottenperthcoys9944 - Probably because the television keeps telling him to hate Bill Shorten. Some people are susceptible to conditioning.
Dickwad,he had nothing to do with this.
Obviously the suicides are awful, but why am I supposed to feel sorry for seasonal workers earning 50-60k and claiming the dole on top for half the year? Keating was way harsher back in the day. He penalized anyone earning over $8 an hour and took up to 90% of all part-time income. My boss at the ANZ was shocked when I said don't roster me for more than 10 hours a week, because everything above that goes to the ATO and the DSS. Between 10 and 25 hours per week you were lucky to make $1 per hour after tax as social security and the LITO phased out at the same time the income tax phased in. Meanwhile you were expected to give up half your Austudy grant money in exchange for a debt of double the amount you received.