Truth...but do ask the township dwellers...it has been a dump to them for 80 years...😂thats why it sounds weird when white people talk about 30years...townships atleast have toilets now and electricity most of the time😂
i salute all the parties that were involved whether through pretense or sincerity, things could have dragged for longer with more pain causing the processes of the Mandela leadership to never materialize...
As a lifelong social liberal I believe that handing over power to the ANC was a dreadful mistake. A huge majority of voters in 1992 agreed that negotiations to end Apartheid should go ahead. What we did not agree to - and were not asked to agree to -- was that the country should simply be handed over on a silver platter to the Oliver Tambo gang. Who then proceeded to ransack the country, condemning half the people they claimed to "liberate" tobeggars
Yes I agree as well. By handing over to black majority rule was like handing power over to wild horses, marxists and terrorists. Was a sad day for South Africa.
@@buzzyb12000, your ignorance accrues. The Apartheid government was installed using violence. South Africa was taken from the natives using violence. Why don’t you pack your things and go back to your country of origin? Go home. South Africa is NOT your country.
I think Pik shares the same view of his DG in the NIS guys and including Neil of his own department, Neil Barnard went on to say that they are negotiating on the position of weakness but at the end of the day the apartheid policy is not in the state statute books. All of us accepted that it's a crime against humanity, people can even insult the state president without consequences, yes it's quite unfair
@@lucius1976 Apartheid would still be here if it wasn't for traitors like pik botha, fw de klerk, roelf meyer etc, that sold South Africa out to socialism for money and fame. What else , except for the above reason, do you think could have been a reason why Apartheid could not be sustained in the long run?
@@lucius1976 Demographics always was a challenge for Apartheid but a strong believe in God, a strong military, patriotism and nationalism combined with strong leadership easily charged and won this challenge. It is a lie and lying excuse that demographics had anything to do with the fall of Apartheid.
As a kid I remember this guy literally foaming at the mouth in an interview with British TV defending Apartheid. At school the next day I heard several different groups of kids talking about it. All of them were in shock. He is a disgusting character and a liar.
Cheddar Man Actually he has been proven right in the end. He pointed to other various 'liberated' black states and I remember him specifically talking about Ghana. He was proven right in the end and a liberal British reporter from London really was not educated on the subject like he was.
Matthew The Broederbond was a department of the Judeo-Masonic cabal run by the Kissinger/Oppenheimer tribe who ran the ANC through Joe Slovo and also ran the Nat Party through a succession of traitors like Vorster, Botha, DeKlerk, etc. Both Botha and Mandela were witless commie puppets.
Jy was deel van Mnr. de Klerk se onderhandelingsspan. U, julle, julle gaan 'n Nuwe Suid-Afrika skep. Waar niemand niemand gaan onderdruk nie. Julle was ons leiers en ons het julle geglo! Ons was soos skape en julle ons herders en julle het ons gelei na die SLAGPALE... Die mooi beloftes. "Jy sal nog steeds Afrikaans kan praat". Dit was JULLE verantwoordelikheid om Afrikaners NIE oor te gee aan die mag van die volksvreemde meerderheid nie.. Julle is (was) die room van die Afrikanerdom. Waar is julle kinder en kleinkinders nu? Nog in Zuid-Afrika? Julle het 'n moeilike saak gehad om te regverdig. (Soos Israel en Nrd-Ierland en ens.) Soos 'n baie ingewikkelde en ryk boedel saak wat vir etlike dekade op dekade sloer. Waarvan die prokureurs al verskeie kere herroep/ afgehaal is van die verdeling. Julle het die boedel nie afgehandel nie. Julle het dit verkwansel. En die erfgename, die Afrikaners, is WEES gelaat... Leon Schutster het 'n gepaste liedjie van julle onderhandellings(om-)vermoee daargestel, "Flat Wheel de Klerk".
I once read"A politician is someone who will sacrifice your life for his country"! Read it among jokes. Old/white government sacrificed lives with war and the new/ANC with poverty and hunger. Both equally bad !!!
Yes long live Apartheid, my first father was white South African I was born in Capetown we moved to Australia when I was 6 years old, but I am glad I do not live there now. SA will end up like Zimbabwe….a basket case, when I was a kid in SA it was the food capital of the world. Sadly my father passed away when I was 12 and my mother married an Italian guy and happy here in Australia, wouldn’t live anywhere else in the world under a Liberal National Party Government here.
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South Africa is a dump now but freedom isn't about success, it's about justice.
pix046 no, your mother is a dump.
The whites are the ones that are being persecuted, discussing.
@@buzzyb12000, then the Whites should go home to their country of origin and get out of South Africa. You were never invited. Get out.
Oh spare me for fck sakes.
Truth...but do ask the township dwellers...it has been a dump to them for 80 years...😂thats why it sounds weird when white people talk about 30years...townships atleast have toilets now and electricity most of the time😂
That is exactly what they are doing with me.
I wasn't even interested in revealing myself to the public, now I feel I must!
i salute all the parties that were involved whether through pretense or sincerity, things could have dragged for longer with more pain causing the processes of the Mandela leadership to never materialize...
Nontsikelelo Khathi that's why black people are suffering, because of idiots like you.
I agree Nontsikelelo.
Pick Botha was a hypocrite.
As a lifelong social liberal I believe that handing over power to the ANC was a dreadful mistake. A huge majority of voters in 1992 agreed that negotiations to end Apartheid should go ahead. What we did not agree to - and were not asked to agree to -- was that the country should simply be handed over on a silver platter to the Oliver Tambo gang. Who then proceeded to ransack the country, condemning half the people they claimed to "liberate" tobeggars
Yes I agree as well. By handing over to black majority rule was like handing power over to wild horses, marxists and terrorists. Was a sad day for South Africa.
you had no choice, get to term with it!
I just wonder in time will our governments we do the same for Julian Assange, Edward Snowden and honor them.
Good question!
God Bless you Pik.
Mandela was offered freedom a long time before if he would reject violence. He refused so he stayed safe in jail.
He was offered to leave the country and be sent to US instead. He refused that! Get your facts right!
True
That is interesting. They don't put that in the history books.
Yes I think by former state president P W Botha he refused to denounce violence so he was kept in jail
@@buzzyb12000, your ignorance accrues. The Apartheid government was installed using violence. South Africa was taken from the natives using violence. Why don’t you pack your things and go back to your country of origin? Go home. South Africa is NOT your country.
Wow moving, Great tribute well spoken..
Big Poes
so touching how love changers all his interview really touched me
I think Pik shares the same view of his DG in the NIS guys and including Neil of his own department, Neil Barnard went on to say that they are negotiating on the position of weakness but at the end of the day the apartheid policy is not in the state statute books. All of us accepted that it's a crime against humanity, people can even insult the state president without consequences, yes it's quite unfair
Pik Botha's legacy will be portraid as Boere traitor that escaped his punishment on earth.
No, he made great choices and did the wisest decisions. He was part of the puzzle that lead to S.A's freedom away from the disaster that is Apartheid.
Don't think Apartheid could be sustained in the long run
@@lucius1976
Apartheid would still be here if it wasn't for traitors like pik botha, fw de klerk, roelf meyer etc, that sold South Africa out to socialism for money and fame.
What else , except for the above reason, do you think could have been a reason why Apartheid could not be sustained in the long run?
@@fransdav5573 Was more like demographics that made it unsustainable
@@lucius1976
Demographics always was a challenge for Apartheid but a strong believe in God, a strong military, patriotism and nationalism combined with strong leadership easily charged and won this challenge. It is a lie and lying excuse that demographics had anything to do with the fall of Apartheid.
They are not going to negotiate on the position of weakness but all agreed ( ANC and NP) agreed that the apartheid ideology has no future
Why is he speaking such proper English😮...modern Ministers don't speak like that apart from Naledi Pandor.
As a kid I remember this guy literally foaming at the mouth in an interview with British TV defending Apartheid. At school the next day I heard several different groups of kids talking about it. All of them were in shock. He is a disgusting character and a liar.
Cheddar Man Actually he has been proven right in the end. He pointed to other various 'liberated' black states and I remember him specifically talking about Ghana. He was proven right in the end and a liberal British reporter from London really was not educated on the subject like he was.
Matthew
The Broederbond was a department of the Judeo-Masonic cabal run by the Kissinger/Oppenheimer tribe who ran the ANC through Joe Slovo and also ran the Nat Party through a succession of traitors like Vorster, Botha, DeKlerk, etc. Both Botha and Mandela were witless commie puppets.
Matthew Glenn Brunner Your statement is completely devoid of reason, careless, idiotic, and racist.
Dream Diction Next time, rather than proposing absurd conspiracy theories, take your medication instead.
But he was against apartheid?
Suipgat
Great man Pik Botha
Devil
Pik gee vir my 'n dop🍺🍻🍾
3:26
Here seen hulle albei
Oh from the horses mouth, hatred and oppression against another is not only for the recipient of abuse but the giver as well.
Pik was a stupid joke
Why?
Jy was deel van Mnr. de Klerk se onderhandelingsspan. U, julle, julle gaan 'n Nuwe Suid-Afrika skep. Waar niemand niemand gaan onderdruk nie. Julle was ons leiers en ons het julle geglo! Ons was soos skape en julle ons herders en julle het ons gelei na die SLAGPALE... Die mooi beloftes. "Jy sal nog steeds Afrikaans kan praat". Dit was JULLE verantwoordelikheid om Afrikaners NIE oor te gee aan die mag van die volksvreemde meerderheid nie.. Julle is (was) die room van die Afrikanerdom. Waar is julle kinder en kleinkinders nu? Nog in Zuid-Afrika? Julle het 'n moeilike saak gehad om te regverdig. (Soos Israel en Nrd-Ierland en ens.) Soos 'n baie ingewikkelde en ryk boedel saak wat vir etlike dekade op dekade sloer. Waarvan die prokureurs al verskeie kere herroep/ afgehaal is van die verdeling. Julle het die boedel nie afgehandel nie. Julle het dit verkwansel. En die erfgename, die Afrikaners, is WEES gelaat... Leon Schutster het 'n gepaste liedjie van julle onderhandellings(om-)vermoee daargestel, "Flat Wheel de Klerk".
Ag sjuim, nog 'n regse wat nie demokrasie kan aanvaar nie.
Waarheid, boedel oorgegee, nou sit ons in tamatiestraat.
Think of all the bother that one can of 7.62 could have saved, all those decades ago
Lol, clever means skelem in township lingua, a crooks plans don't last too long. They are very costly.
Liegbek Hoop jou familie is tevrede nou Hoekom het ons seuns gedood op n plek waar jy nooit moes gewees het nie Lekker oorlog gespeel Om wat te doen
I understand this Afrikaans good taal
I once read"A politician is someone who will sacrifice your life for his country"! Read it among jokes. Old/white government sacrificed lives with war and the new/ANC with poverty and hunger. Both equally bad !!!
Traitor
The racist Whites mourning here is laughable. 😂😂😂😭
Harmony and equality is relative....to you sir
Long live apartheid.
We want our land borkie that farm is not yours white boy is our land bich
Samuel you have clearly not paid very much attention to the legacy and spirit of Tata Madiba
Yes long live Apartheid, my first father was white South African I was born in Capetown we moved to Australia when I was 6 years old, but I am glad I do not live there now. SA will end up like Zimbabwe….a basket case, when I was a kid in SA it was the food capital of the world. Sadly my father passed away when I was 12 and my mother married an Italian guy and happy here in Australia, wouldn’t live anywhere else in the world under a Liberal National Party Government here.
ottom B….having a hard time aren’t you? Walk the streets of South Africa shouting this and see what the reaction is.
Pouros Lock