A 1994 pre-election debate between Mandela and de Klerk

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  • @eddymakua2175
    @eddymakua2175 3 года назад +64

    I WISH SOUTH AFRICA STILL HAD SUCH DEBATES BEFORE NATIONAL ELECTIONS

  • @WilliamPetersen01
    @WilliamPetersen01 3 года назад +16

    Debates like this will NEVER EVER exist like this in South Africa again. In fact the current situation in SA is far worse than what it was back then. That is a FACT, due to ignorance and corruption that is running the country.

  • @gambu4810
    @gambu4810 5 лет назад +44

    The Only Democratic presidential candidates that Debated in order to give the electorate a chance for an informed decision. Zuma would definitely loose an election if it had to go this route.

    • @ebekezelaconstruction1237
      @ebekezelaconstruction1237 4 года назад +1

      You have clearly not heard his speeches with independent ear

    • @gambu4810
      @gambu4810 4 года назад +3

      @@ebekezelaconstruction1237 Hahaha. I disagree with you but what an estute response.

    • @mthokonly
      @mthokonly 4 года назад +3

      Ugenaphi uZuma manje la?

    • @gambu4810
      @gambu4810 4 года назад +2

      @@mthokonly The 9 wasted years bring him in. If he went on a policy debate with Mbeki and with Motlante, we most probably would not be here. We would have had a privilege of voting someone we know what he's bringing on the table.

    • @mpilombuyazi1411
      @mpilombuyazi1411 3 года назад

      @@gambu4810 He crushed them with more than words, Mbeki can take the imaginary debate while Zuma win the political battle through action.

  • @Brytons_Thoughts
    @Brytons_Thoughts 6 лет назад +87

    My left ear enjoyed this video.

    • @intensecutn
      @intensecutn 6 лет назад +9

      Bryton Cherrier switch your headphones around because they're the wrong way around.

    • @sinelizwisongca1312
      @sinelizwisongca1312 3 года назад +1

      @@intensecutn 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @redmatters9318
    @redmatters9318 2 года назад +3

    Just nice watching a civilised debate. All gone now all over the globe. Such is life. You can't bring back the past ways of doing things..you've got to progress..?? G'day now from Australia 🇦🇺 CHEERS to the ANC.

  • @jasonhavartino4387
    @jasonhavartino4387 4 года назад +17

    Frederic De Clerk was a decent man...he never promoted violence....

    • @crunchkarma4907
      @crunchkarma4907 4 года назад +1

      Murdered his wife. Failed to represent his people. I wish Mandela was still alive.

  • @pauliallen
    @pauliallen 9 лет назад +79

    This is a historic debate. It is a pity that you have not uploaded the entire debate to youtube.

    • @someguy007
      @someguy007 7 лет назад +9

      That is so true. More vids like this would give us perspective and understanding on how to deal with todays challenges.

    • @treytoomuch
      @treytoomuch 3 года назад +3

      Plus the full debate is on RUclips

  • @AlbertvWyk
    @AlbertvWyk 3 года назад +14

    The irony that today, the ANC has ensured SA is seen as a failed nation, with junk investment status. 👈

    • @simplyballing1592
      @simplyballing1592 3 года назад +1

      That's because the majority of the wealth is held by a minority. Not enough has been done to empower the previously disadvantaged. Apartheid was terrible to begin with

    • @AlbertvWyk
      @AlbertvWyk 3 года назад +7

      @@simplyballing1592 sorry, not true. Perhaps you want to look at SA billionaire status there son and how many hail from the ANC.

    • @itz.koketso_mula7537
      @itz.koketso_mula7537 3 года назад

      Apartheid will always be history and even though de klerk apologizes what he caused will never be forgotten

    • @AlbertvWyk
      @AlbertvWyk 3 года назад +1

      @@itz.koketso_mula7537 🤣

  • @LetsDoSocialWork
    @LetsDoSocialWork Год назад +4

    Wow, such articulated and respectful debate!

  • @patrickesau2560
    @patrickesau2560 6 лет назад +25

    Tim modise has his own talk show today 2018

  • @scatterlingofafrica8928
    @scatterlingofafrica8928 5 лет назад +11

    So refreshing...

  • @lukhanyomtshingana1962
    @lukhanyomtshingana1962 5 лет назад +19

    It was the Apartheid government making sure that the ANC nd IFP kept on fighting and also promoting tribalism under their favourite slogan "Divide and conquer".

    • @gambu4810
      @gambu4810 5 лет назад +1

      We are still very much proud of our Tribes and those of you who despise Tribalism are rootless westerners.

    • @alexanderfooy723
      @alexanderfooy723 4 года назад +1

      Gambu If you think that we don’t celebrate our roots in the west, you’re quite an idiot. We can just do it without war.

    • @godcandidate9065
      @godcandidate9065 4 года назад

      Divide and rule

  • @PBX2690
    @PBX2690 3 года назад +6

    Rest in peace Mr President ✝️🇿🇦❤️💯🌈

  • @gambu4810
    @gambu4810 5 лет назад +11

    Tim Modise is a Hero.

  • @proudmashilwane4301
    @proudmashilwane4301 6 лет назад +29

    two legends

    • @karimkiseka6032
      @karimkiseka6032 5 лет назад +6

      you nuts! only one

    • @user-vv1do1wg1j
      @user-vv1do1wg1j 5 лет назад +7

      @@karimkiseka6032 yes Mandela was a horrible person.

    • @gavinmaritz6845
      @gavinmaritz6845 4 года назад +5

      Mandela was no legend

    • @amorlouw7045
      @amorlouw7045 4 года назад +2

      True a black men can't be a legend only those with blue or green eyes can, cause they see what Satan want them to see.

    • @adeledejager2097
      @adeledejager2097 4 года назад +8

      What democracy? Its a communist country....
      ANC-african national communists...

  • @mrgodfreymunyai4482
    @mrgodfreymunyai4482 11 месяцев назад +1

    Anc is not the Anc of Mandela. Corruption is in a fashionable, of which is a Shame Bcz the top official are more involved

  • @heroldheine1016
    @heroldheine1016 5 лет назад +9

    Look at the police today? What would the response be if this debate was done today?

    • @heroldheine1016
      @heroldheine1016 5 лет назад +1

      One of the top police officers suspended! 😂 How many are suspended today?

  • @muhammadomer7495
    @muhammadomer7495 3 года назад +5

    He is 84 in 2021
    In 1994 he still looked 84...

    • @supersejkaj3093
      @supersejkaj3093 3 года назад +1

      He died in 2013 aged 95, I seriously don't know where you're getting your stats from.

    • @muhammadomer7495
      @muhammadomer7495 3 года назад

      @@supersejkaj3093 oh mixed him with someone. 95 great age.

    • @Frenite
      @Frenite 6 месяцев назад

      Are you talking about de Klerk or Mandela? De Klerk was 84 in 2021.

  • @msereza
    @msereza 10 лет назад +55

    Can you please post the full debate?

    • @realquirkyvideos1197
      @realquirkyvideos1197 8 лет назад +10

      +tshepo msereza - see it here: www.c-span.org/video/?56052-1/south-african-campaign-debate

    • @someguy007
      @someguy007 7 лет назад +5

      Im scared to click his link...What if it gives germs to my computer 😷😱😫

    • @VidzMisc
      @VidzMisc 7 лет назад +4

      C-span is legit, it has been around for years

    • @ArnoldDarkshner99
      @ArnoldDarkshner99 6 лет назад +1

      Realquirky Videos thank you so much! I greatly enjoyed this debate.

  • @abdallasa7077
    @abdallasa7077 3 года назад +3

    So KZN and parts of Gauteng have always been problems.

  • @TruthbBeTold
    @TruthbBeTold 3 года назад +1

    Same problems..different dates..different party in charge.. the people of this country are a problem 🙄

    • @vhakisa
      @vhakisa 3 года назад

      Go back to indian. Futsek

  • @rishaansayedusuf5812
    @rishaansayedusuf5812 3 года назад +3

    Do we still have debates between candidates in today's age before elections.

  • @123brownjames
    @123brownjames 3 года назад +11

    Mandela and De Klerk were legends

    • @itz.koketso_mula7537
      @itz.koketso_mula7537 3 года назад +4

      Just Mandela .

    • @nick-her9275
      @nick-her9275 3 года назад +2

      @@itz.koketso_mula7537 just de Klerk, Mandela was a terrorist

    • @itz.koketso_mula7537
      @itz.koketso_mula7537 3 года назад

      @@nick-her9275 no he was not he fought for the freedom of African people but your white president treated African people like trash he is one of the reason there is such a thing called racism ugh

    • @nick-her9275
      @nick-her9275 3 года назад +2

      @@itz.koketso_mula7537 news flask de Klerk didn’t invent apartheid he only inherited and dismantled it. Nelson Mandelas wife supported the burning of black people who openly supported apartheid. Nelson Mandela was a racist and a terrorist.

    • @phumlaningwenya6062
      @phumlaningwenya6062 3 года назад

      Only a white racist or a black sellout who sees de Klerk as a legend onphikisayo akeze silwe

  • @zukoboltina8330
    @zukoboltina8330 Год назад

    Give us sound we can't hear them

  • @stephanboshoff3636
    @stephanboshoff3636 2 года назад +1

    Where south africa began sinking 🤔 now almost nothing left

  • @docholl93
    @docholl93 2 года назад +1

    Two human treasures.

    • @scorpi972
      @scorpi972 Год назад

      De clerk was a racist human trash

  • @andrewmohlala3262
    @andrewmohlala3262 2 года назад +2

    When he speaks about the coverups notice how speaks with do much pain

  • @tshepotau5754
    @tshepotau5754 Год назад

    Contrary the popular narrative Deklerk nailed this debate although he was a dishonest man.

  • @thattvguyvorster5250
    @thattvguyvorster5250 4 года назад +2

    end credits???

  • @mozdickson
    @mozdickson 10 лет назад +21

    Scrappy sound but.. VIVA MADIBA!!!

  • @matchmerchant
    @matchmerchant 10 лет назад +6

    no bloody sound..

  • @sam_6447
    @sam_6447 7 лет назад +11

    Defensive de Klerk

  • @dreamdiction
    @dreamdiction 3 года назад +3

    When the South African National Party betrayed Rhodesia and SWA, the white South African voters did not protest, they kept on voting for the same National Party so that Vorster, Botha and De Klerk could do to South Africa what they had already done to Rhodesia and South Africa.
    In the 1992 referendum white South Africans voted to become exactly the same as every other post-colonial African country. Pietersburg in Transvaal is the only part of South Africa which voted NO. South Africans asked for the mess they are in today so they cannot complain by saying they had no choice.

    • @sam3407
      @sam3407 2 года назад

      You’re not African. You’re irrelevant as a whitey in this case.

    • @josephkwashi3301
      @josephkwashi3301 2 года назад +1

      So apartheid should still be in place?

  • @windiamigo5312
    @windiamigo5312 3 года назад +2

    R.I.P. DE KLERK

  • @alleluiamkwayi678
    @alleluiamkwayi678 3 года назад +1

    They gone with a lot of secrets to the graveyard RIP both killer's

  • @Kameruner
    @Kameruner 3 года назад

    1:35 They foreshadowed 2020/2021 in 1993

  • @atangadam724
    @atangadam724 4 года назад

    Lesotho Parliament by thabane

  • @peter-johndejong9880
    @peter-johndejong9880 6 лет назад +8

    Africa was economically and financially so much better of, all the anc did was enrich ....

    • @pastorkmonyisi1742
      @pastorkmonyisi1742 6 лет назад +9

      to you white people. you are so brave to come here and have the audacity to say such rubbish! Apartheid favoured you the whites, vele you would utter such nonsense. we are coming for our land

    • @peter-johndejong9880
      @peter-johndejong9880 6 лет назад +3

      Kagiso Mookwa what did the and government do to better the country besides enriching friend, crime and violence increased, and the economy is not as strong anymore

    • @pastorkmonyisi1742
      @pastorkmonyisi1742 6 лет назад +7

      your reason is not just racially obscure in disguise but is stupid. africa was a better place before the whites invaded their nose into the continent. we talking taking the land back then the investors are said to be leaving, where were this investors when the apartheid government killed the blacks because of the same land? it is evident that you economic stability was raised by the death of this innocent black people isn't. if you want to talk about stability then dont come here with apartheid mentality

    • @peter-johndejong9880
      @peter-johndejong9880 6 лет назад +3

      Kagiso Mookwa My point is that the ANC did not improve south AFRICA, during the anc government more than 500.000 people died because of crime and murder,

    • @peter-johndejong9880
      @peter-johndejong9880 6 лет назад +3

      Kagiso Mookwa you should also realize that south africa was mostly empty land when the europeans arrived, civilisation was erected from scratch attracting may foreign africans searching for jobs and security, a lot of jobs were provided by the settlers and farmers that did not exist before.

  • @sibaningcobo9240
    @sibaningcobo9240 3 года назад

    Rubbish

  • @brianearner5092
    @brianearner5092 4 года назад

    America news

  • @tanyahouse1724
    @tanyahouse1724 3 года назад +2

    Can you guys imagine what south africa 🇿🇦 will look like today ?? If south africa are still in the hands of white people .. it might be Australia and Canada ... The streets and city's is more cleaned than what it looks today ... And maybe south africa will be have strong economy

  • @sfortunavargiu9273
    @sfortunavargiu9273 2 года назад

    Oggi e domenica mondina ricordate undici sla ricarica anche dance segretaria che il giorno processo era a Nuoro msriatommasa aaaaaaaasaaa

  • @thobelasigidi420
    @thobelasigidi420 4 месяца назад

    Sell out

  • @frikkies333
    @frikkies333 6 лет назад +4

    Verraaier x10000

  • @frikkies333
    @frikkies333 6 лет назад +2

    Jellytot de Klerk