So reassuring to have intelligent thinkers working on solutions....and to know there are institutions ready and willing to make those adjustments. Why do we never hear about this in the MSM?
Are you saying the MSM hasn't told us that we need to reduce consumption, the last 30 years? The problem is taking oil out of our lives, or at least confine the consumption to needed industries, are we ready for that adjustment? I'm not so sure.
"Anyway that's a large part of what economics is - people arbitrarily, or as a matter of taste, assigning numerical values to non-numerical things. And then pretending that they haven't just made the numbers up, which they have. Economics is like astrology in that sense, except that economics serves to justify the current power structure, and so it has a lot of fervent believers among the powerful." K.S. Robinson - Red Mars.
I'm enjoying this conversation, I'm very curious to read this! I'll revisit it after I've read the book. The fact that Jeffrey recognises reality within the fabric gives it credence and urgency. I thought I'd add this reading list which KSR mentioned during an earlier event: Ursula Le Guin's Reading List for pupils (including KSR) at UCSD Spring Quarter 1977: Hard to Be a God by the Strugatsky Brothers Martian Time Slip by Philip K. Dick Camp Concentration by Thomas Disch The Invincible by Stanisław Lem The Fifth Head of Cerberus by Gene Wolfe The Dream Master by Roger Zelazny The Exile Waiting by Vonda McIntyre And Strange at Ecbatan the Trees by Michael Bishop de facto inclusions of Italo Calvino: The Baron in the Trees; The Nonexistent Knight; The Cloven Viscount
The presumption is that HOPEFULLY wisdom will prevail over greed. I find that stance to be pollyanna-ish in the extreme, considering our long history to the contrary.
In a world of limits, what we now consider to be opportunity - worthy pursuit in the main - is the promise of a global consensus that China, Russia (yes) and other countries present with the end of the Petrodollar through the BRICS preeminence. They take a stance on a multi-polar economic order allowing each nation to follow its own path of politics and material development to ultimately arrive at a global homeostasis.
I wish the host would stop interrupting Stan mid-sentence/mid-thought. Especially because his frequent interjections don't really contribute anything of substance and only serve to break Stan's train of thought.
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Thanks, brilliant. It is a relief to hear people talk constructively.
Wonderful talk, thank you very much
So reassuring to have intelligent thinkers working on solutions....and to know there are institutions ready and willing to make those adjustments. Why do we never hear about this in the MSM?
Are you saying the MSM hasn't told us that we need to reduce consumption, the last 30 years? The problem is taking oil out of our lives, or at least confine the consumption to needed industries, are we ready for that adjustment? I'm not so sure.
A wonderful book! brilliant !
"Anyway that's a large part of what economics is - people arbitrarily, or as a matter of taste, assigning numerical values to non-numerical things. And then pretending that they haven't just made the numbers up, which they have. Economics is like astrology in that sense, except that economics serves to justify the current power structure, and so it has a lot of fervent believers among the powerful." K.S. Robinson - Red Mars.
I'm enjoying this conversation, I'm very curious to read this! I'll revisit it after I've read the book. The fact that Jeffrey recognises reality within the fabric gives it credence and urgency.
I thought I'd add this reading list which KSR mentioned during an earlier event:
Ursula Le Guin's Reading List for pupils (including KSR) at UCSD Spring Quarter 1977:
Hard to Be a God by the Strugatsky Brothers
Martian Time Slip by Philip K. Dick
Camp Concentration by Thomas Disch
The Invincible by Stanisław Lem
The Fifth Head of Cerberus by Gene Wolfe
The Dream Master by Roger Zelazny
The Exile Waiting by Vonda McIntyre
And Strange at Ecbatan the Trees by Michael Bishop
de facto inclusions of Italo Calvino:
The Baron in the Trees; The Nonexistent Knight; The Cloven Viscount
The presumption is that HOPEFULLY wisdom will prevail over greed. I find that stance to be pollyanna-ish in the extreme, considering our long history to the contrary.
In a world of limits, what we now consider to be opportunity - worthy pursuit in the main - is the promise of a global consensus that China, Russia (yes) and other countries present with the end of the Petrodollar through the BRICS preeminence. They take a stance on a multi-polar economic order allowing each nation to follow its own path of politics and material development to ultimately arrive at a global homeostasis.
Denial has already reached the bargaining with the Laws of Thermodynamics stage.
Let Kim Talk!
He likes the sound of his own voice.
No more wars for Israel!
I wish the host would stop interrupting Stan mid-sentence/mid-thought. Especially because his frequent interjections don't really contribute anything of substance and only serve to break Stan's train of thought.
Well he is an economist.