I have over 65 R/C cars and tanks and have been collecting for years and I don't think I have been as impressed as I was with this car for the money. I bought the kit version so I used better servos and ancillary electronics but it was so good I bought one for my brother for Christmas. A hobbywing 60A with a 45T engine, some 15kg servos and with my basic go-to radio, a GT3C/IT-4S it is just an awesome bash around the yard truck. It's not an associated or a mugen but for a few hundred it's the best run around I've ever owned. It has replaced my RC10T4 as the car I keep in the trunk for a bit of fun. The 2WD gives me a chance to slide and get loose the 4WD gets me anywhere. I bought a Proline body as the included body is too good to trash with my abuse and challenging driving style. Apart from my RC10B4, my main go to car, the best R/C car I own. Not the fastest but without doubt the most fun and such a good looking truck. I won't go into brand loyalty as that is a perspective but I doubt that Losi or Traxxas et al gave Associated much in royalties after the blatant RC10 rip offs over the years. It's racing and if an idea works they will copy, this is no different, in fact the build quality is better than my Hi-Lift Tamiya in many important areas. My BAJA 5B buggies are built with more aftermarket parts than original and in fact I built a complete car from aftermarket that shames my original 5B and 5T in quality and performance. At what point is it original... Grandads old axe had 4 new handles and 2 new heads but it's still grandads old axe :) Smooth roads B
well said, I have my Dads 78 Chrysler New Yorker Broham he bought new when I was 12,... It had a funky only used 2 or 3 years Lean Burn electronic ignition. Impossible to find and if you do 300mbuck plus ya gotta have a spare if your gonna drive the car very far,... I put a points style distributor in irt, changed the thermoquad carburetor out to a simple stupid edelbrock and it runs great,.. Just because the electronic ignition is unhooked under the hood don't make it so that that's not my dads old Chrysler. I like the axe example! Still grand dads axe, Still my Dads 78 Chrysler New Yorker Broham!
The Tamiya kit is now $1062 at tower! Insane. I can't support Tamiya when their kits cost a ridiculous amount of money. They make more money than I do so I'll choose the copy. I used to be brand loyal back in the day and purchased well over 50 tamiya trucks alone. I think I've lined Tamiya's pockets enough to not feel guilty for buying a copy of this truck at 1/5th the cost (as of 10/20/2018)
exactly wheels...look at all TAMIYA's competition like the trx4..to me i rather buy the trx4 and get way better remote locking differentials and the trx4 includes the radio..unlike the bruiser and it's less than the TAMIYA...even the new trx 6x6 is cheaper
@@tiziano316 _I can't support Tamiya when their kits cost a ridiculous amount of money._ If the products are manufactured locally, instead of in the People's Republic of Suicide Factories, that can explain the costs. The price tag, in that case, would include safe working conditions and decent pay.
@@IllusionSector Well, we don’t know if Tamiya will ever make a local manufacturing facility in American or Europe. So prices will always be high. You can go ahead and buy a $1k bruiser I’ll settle for the HG model. Not all manufacturer facilities are in subpar standards when it comes to manufacturing other products. My cousin lives in China and she assembles Christmas products and she has nothing to complain about.
I got mine 2 weeks ago. Had to reseal two shocks and add a small washer under all the hub nuts to take up some slop. I've been waiting 33 years to have one. I couldn't afford back then , so I got the Clodbuster.Good times!
Before we display brand loyalty it might be wise to ask ourselves how much loyalty that manufacturer would show to us. When I bought an HPI Mini Trophy instead of a Chinese knockoff, I thought that, by investing in a quality brand, I was buying into reliable spare parts availability. It soon became apparent that the Mini Trophy has a heavy appetite for dogbone drive shafts, but I just went along, buying one set at a time as they were needed because I trusted HPI to keep making spares for my truck. Suddenly they blandly announced that it was no longer cost effective for them to supply spares for this model, and stopped. Now my Mini Trophy is effectively an expensive ornament. If some Chinese firm began offering knockoff driveshafts for my truck I´d show HPI the same degree of loyalty that they showed me! Obviously, if an original manufacturer´s currently offering a product, it´s a little harder to justify deciding to get the knockoff, but if the original developer won´t meet demand, well...I´m with Josh on this one. Tamiya need to meet demand at reasonably affordable prices. If they can´t or won´t do that, then my cash is going to end up in China, and I´ll leave consideration of the ethics involved to those whose job it is to decide these matters.
Del350K4 I totally see your point and your info and knowlegde is cool to see as usual. Question, obviously this is a knockoff would any us this be happening if Hobbico was still around??
Del350K4 While I do agree with you, at the same time, a company can’t continuously make replacement parts forever. They can, but it’s not a smart choice from a business standpoint.
Totally agree with everything said in this video. Look at it this way, Tamiya has milked this chassis. They sold it in ‘85, sold it again in 2012 and in 2017 the Mountain Rider came back. Always charging $700.00 USD for the kits. Year after year. It’s about time your average Joe who doesn’t wanna be afraid to spend $1000 and break something get to enjoy this now. Ordered one after this video and I am a Tamiya purist, as far as I am concerned, I and many of my RC friends supported the Tamiya company enough and I will continue to do so later. But for now, the Bruiser dream is a reality.
as long as its legal to buy, you havent done anything wrong. i fly fpv mini quads and im a mechanic at a ford dealership and i have children in school. i buy the cheapest parts that are still good quality and whenever someone mentions that im not flying a 500 dollar quad i just tell them that if they want me to have the most expensive latest and greatest, then they can send it to me or write me a check and then ill fly whatever they want.but as long as im not breaking any laws then ill spend my extra money the way i see fit. i understand that people are ripping off ideas from other people that have put their time and money in designing and i can understand what the problem is but i cant buy what i cant afford. great video and you have a wonderful channel brother
I agree with you. In the end it is a toy and Tamiya was selling it for 700$. That's 900$cad! On Banggood this copy is 400$cad. We're talking a 500$ difference here! I have two choices: buy a toy for 900$ and feel good about supporting the original maker of the toy or buy a toy for 400$ and spend the remaining 500$ on my family. I can't see any argument that would convince me to send an extra 500$ to Tamiya. On the plus side, easy choices like this might be what will push Tamiya to make more affordable models. Thanks for your review! :)
Is the 2012 Bruiser still made by Tamiya? If not, this is fine. If so, buying it discourages Tamiya (and others) from investing the money necessary to develop new RCs. If Tamiya didn't have to pay engineers to design it originally, they could sell these for this price as well.
I just picked 1 up myself as banggood had them on sale for $179 for the RTR version and even in the USA warehouse 😎👍. I wasn't gonna pass that deal up. I heard great things with these which is cool
It does look good/nice. The boys at GCM were just asking if anyone had one so they can ask some questions on it. You will need to replace all the screws in the body with LURC hardware and paint that can shell. Have fun!!
i think tamiya has lost their mind. charging nearly a grand for a 20 year old design, it's NOT worth it. i also picked up one of these HG models and i am very happy with it, especially happy with the price
And yet people still buy them.... Many for the nostalgia aspect... Or not to destroy their pristine vintage unit. Honestly if it weren't for rc4wd I highly doubt Tamiya would have ever reissued the kits 15 years or so ago. Heck a junk bruiser was running north of $500 us. I just wish someone would rerealease the blazin blazer
Brand loyalty needs to be earned, it is not just a given because they were the first, or their marketing is strong. My experience from brand name after market support has been less than stella. Those days are long gone now, consumers are not blocked by complex business to business logistics anymore, we are a global consumer in a global online marketplace. Manufacture to Consumer is becoming more the norm. I don't use local hobby stores anymore because there is an alternative now, that's all, it has nothing to do with brands. I also use Netflix instead of a local video rental store, buy mp3s online instead of music from local shops. Things change.
Very true brother. TImes are changing. I cant say no to a deal like this truck. It is awesome for the price. I have been with Tamiya since I was a child. Only had one issue with a kit and customer service was great. The local hobby shop is another touchy subject all together. Here in North texas there are too many people spread out over too large an area. Every now and then a shop will pop up that actually sells RC4wd and scale products but even though its in the metro area the customer base is too spread out to make it survive. Even in the 90's I had summer jobs and I lived and died by my Tower hobbies catalog. Because they had the things the shops didnt. Now its the internet bringing us directly to the manufacturer. I think of my channel and builds as a business, if I can get something cheaper im obligated to do so in order to make my business profitable sort of speak.
cyanide: 3 years ago one tried to make a go of it in the small town I lived in. When I saw the renos going on at the location I couldn't help but think: wtf are you thinking? Not only netflix but torrent downloading will kill your business in a season. I think they were trying to make a go of the game rental as opposed to videos but they didn't last a year. What killed chains like Blockbuster is the blatant rip off by the distributors. For eg: When Alien vs Predator came out, they had 100 copies to rent. What they did was after a month or so of rental, they put the blu ray and dvds into the used rack and sold them for $10.00. Well, when AVP went in, there were 10 copies. I asked the manager (whom I'd spoken to many times before) he told me the distributor forced them to destroy 90 copies. He said that is normal, they destroy easily 90% of all popular videos to keep the demand up. So yeah, pure greed. I see NO problem with a studio making money off their product but to artificially inflate the price simply to squeeze one more penny out of your customers, well, now I just find my movies from alternative sources. Another example is my previous satellite tv provider: $15.00 for the FIRST terminator movie 25 years after it was released? give me a break.
RC Everyday: I was like you, R/C was WAY out of my league and while I wanted to fly so bad as a kid, $2500 to get in the air was half the price my dad paid for our first house. Now? I have or had 1/2 dozen planes each under $100, one with a gyro was $50.00. I realize hobby shops have to stay in business but seriously, every one I ever went in was WAY over priced but we had no choice. One thing about Tamiya: In Canada, you cannot sell Tamiya via an online store. The only way you can get them (legally) is via Borgfeldt toys and they WILL not sell to online retailers. You have to have a brick and motor store. The tooling for model kits and R/C are tremendously expensive but with Tamiya, I always felt "do you have to make it up on 10 kits"? lol....I know the quality of their products is good, but seriously priced. I looked at some of their 1/12th motorcycle models and when I built a bunch, they were around $14.00. Last time I looked they were $40.00 where I lived....insane. No wonder kids these days aren't into model building, they can't afford it!
Hey Josh, you’ve got my attention with this one! I might have to order one. As far as ethics go, that truck is made by the same company that currently makes the Tamiya stuff. Different badging, that’s all. Same with RC4WD...they are a brand, not a manufacturer. The Chinese company that sells their products to RC4WD to sell, ALSO sells the same identical products to other retailers to resell. Either way, cool rig! Awesome vid, as usual. 👍🏼👍🏼
I also had the original inferno burns. It was the 1st 1/8 scale nitro buggy. It started the whole Class which became huge. I think it was in the early 80s.
I'm a consumer ! So ordering one myself & I've got one Og's ( Tamiya ) in Storage transmission is out 😯. Every Tamiya kit I've come across either was picked apart or broken . Still got the lunch box / midnight pumpkin , Bullhead / clod-buster . So I ordered that Redcat Rampage Pro 1.5th Scale Rc M.T can't beat that price 🤞thanks for the review 👌
I love Tamiya, a Midnight Pumpkin was my first hobby grade. Back in 1988. That said, right there with everyone saying its time for them to change. After market part's that Tamiya offer themselves should be added to something like a "pro kit" or whatever. Also coming out with a super scale "class zero" type of truck would be a great move on their part.
Great video. I just ordered mine. I have LOTS of Tamiya stuff and will continue to buy them, but I was never a customer for the Bruiser, just too expensive. I will probably drive it a tiny bit and detail the white body out and shelf queen it like many other models I have. I'm thinking chameleon paint since that was the rage in the 80's. And I'm keeping the chrome mini cab but will paint the windows and louvers black.
RC Everyday: I have brought this very same point up in one of Team Associated`s videos of their new C12. They have to get with the times and start making products that will compete with the other company`s out there. the C12 is a nice truck but the truck body is all plastic meaning there is no windows they are just stickers ( i just did a review on it and will be posting it tomorrow). It has 4 LED`s 2 headlight and 2 marker lights but no tail lights and no option to add them since the tail lights are a piece of plastic with a sticker on it. not to mention the LED`s are hard-wired to the chassis so you cant even take the body all the way off if you want to work on the truck. This type of quality is not something I expected from AE especially for the price I paid. I expect stuff like that from the Chinese company`s but not from AE or Losi or HPI. Losi and AE made little 1/24 scale RC cars and the Chinese made better cars at a better price. The big names have to stop living in the glory days where a name could get people to buy your product, that just doesn't t cut it anymore we as consumers what the best deal for the buck and that goes with everything we buy. As far as Traxxas is concerned I am washing my hands of them for the stunt they pulled on a couple who does RC reviews here on youtube. long story short after the couple said the name X-Maxx in their video Traxxas ran to youtube and had them dinged and then went forward with the motion of suing them too. Traxxas then backed down and called off the dogs after a flood of people (me being one of them) attacked them relentlessly. I posted on every Traxxas video I could find how I felt about them "if it wasn't for the amount of money I have already spent I would burn all my trucks" that is one of my quotes. I then reported Traxxas for animal cruelty in one of their videos. I am proud of what I said and what I did. I am sick of big business thinking cuz they have money they can do whatever they want. ok so anyway I have more Traxxas vehicles to get rid of and when i do, I am done with them.
A lot of the "knock off" parts are made by the same factory as the name brand items these days. If you take them apart, you'll probably have a hard time finding any difference between the two.
To be honest, I bet this was PROBABLY made in the same Chinese factory Tamiya used to make their repops. Therefore, they had all the stampings and molds to recreate it exactly. As someone who has worked in a manufacturing environment, I am not opposed to getting products made in China. There are a lot of good plants that are producing "Japanese" quality products. They are catching on that the consumer doesn't want the "cheapo" Chinese made products anymore.
If you knew the truth,... Tamiya probably owns this factory and this business. Ran out of buyers for their 8 or 900 dollar truck,.... used it up,... started making them under another name,... Im a Tamiya collector / restorer and have 3 82 Hi Lux, 1 Blazing blazer, 3 bruisers from 86 and 3 Mountaineers from 93,.. never bought a re re ….. I bought 2 of these , both in kit form a black and a white one because I of course have much better radio gear and I would want to disassemble this truck and re assemble it anyway so whats the point of Buying a RTR with cheap radio gear and not knowing wether or not the person who assembled the RTR did it right or not,.. the demand on these trucks is so high they gotta be throwing them together as fast as possible with almost no quality control what so ever,.. just bang em out and get em shipped.
This truck is defo on my next to get list. Original tamiya cars truck and the like are for rich fan boys. Iv only ever had tamiya but I can have this without needing to justify the cost. Total no brainer.
even in the uk Tamiya kits don't come cheep, so to have this truck come out at almost under half the price of the tamiya you just can not say no. I think you are right in saying Tamiya are set in the past, just look how popular the wpl 1/16 trucks have been, Tamiya should off done something like them when they first came out with their tanks. I think your right Tamiya should release the hilux and the blazing blazer but only as a one speed 4x4 that way it could keep the price down and maybe compete with the other manufactures. like a lot of people who saw these kits when the first came out would of jumped at the chance to of owned one, but even then they where not cheep, they are going to buy this truck and I could be one of them
If I can ever.... I'm getting one! I was explaining my story as a reply to another comment here on your Video. Yeah, Clones bother me! Enough to not buy any?? HELL NO! Given the over inflation of RC Prices in the past 2 Decades (DESPITE the horrific Crash in 2007!!), and that now I'm a very poor Disabled Veteran, I haven't been able to afford ANY new Rigs, in over a Decade! 😭😭😭 I can't even afford one of these *TOMATO" Clones!!! But IF I become able, I'm DAMN SURE getting one!!! The Nostalgia alone is worth it!! 🍺👍👍 That, and I wouldn't feel ANYTHING about Modifying anything on it. FIRST thing - *DUMP those NYLON Tires!!!!* 😱😫🙅 Never liked them, can't believe that they were also used on the Blackfoot - OG and re-re! And, on the Bruiser re-release! They're possibly the worst Tires EVER put on a RC. Second thing - RC4WD Leaf Springs.... because they WORK. Tamiya's Leaf Springs have always been too stiff. This will NEVER be a Pro Crawler, by any stretch. Nobody should expect that. But, since it won't Butthurt any Collectors, a couple of Mods to make it more pleasant for ME, why not?? Thanks! This was an excellent look at this controversial Rig! Carmine 💥 ⛽
I ordered one it came with the battery plugged in and it fried up all the electrics nothing worked. Now ordered all new just to see. I have a original bruiser. But had to have a clone. I been into rc since I was 14. I still have the rc10 gold chassis I built. Plus a rc10l road I built. Still going strong. My clone is being redone. Since it was fried
I received 50.00 gift card for Amazon so I got this truck for $150.00.liked it a lot and got 2 more off eBay for $178.00 each.compare that to $600.00+ for the original,I'm happy with it. Still there is something to be said for the original (12-23)
watching this rig bounce around the back yard, I thought maybe adding a little lead to it. give something to flex those springs a bit. It defanatly has the torque.
Just seems like in todays world there are no boundaries that other manufacturers won't cross we are seeing our local hobby shops going out of business because of the market being flooded with those knockoffs.Sad but that's just how it is now a day's.I still have the original version and me personally will only by the originals but that's just me.Its still just a toy no matter how you look at it.
Robert Rosson I totally agree with you. The Clones are just TOO attractively priced, to NOT buy them. And that's sad. I have been a Tamiya Loyalist since 1982, with their Lamborghini LM002, Army Spec Off-Road Vehicle! I spent 10 whole years, TRYING to make a Hornet WORK - at least as good as anything competitive at the time!! 😱 When the Bruiser came out, I was a 20 year old BOY, who would have sold his Left Nut to get one!! It never happened. 8 years later, I had another chance - but I chose to get the new Avante, which then, was $100 less than the Bruiser. When Tamiya Re-Re'ed the Bruiser a few years back - even with the *750 Motor,* I wanted it SO BAD! By then, I became completely Disabled, with NO WAY of coming up with the INSANE amount of money they wanted for it. 😱😥😭 It was looking like I would NEVER be able to afford any Bruiser - and then THIS came out!! Am I upset that it's a shameless Clone? Absolutely!! Would it stop me from getting one?? Given my situation, as a very poor Disabled Veteran, if I can even afford THAT - *Yes, absolutely!* Would I be proud of it? No. But, as I'm getting closer to 60 years old, WITHOUT the Earning potential that seemingly Everyone else in the Hobby seems to, I just want to know what one FEELS like. I'm too old to be worried about impressing anyone!!
Hobby shops are going out because everyone buys parts online. Hobby shops can sell knock offs too if they wanted. Times are changing, people get better deals online and with 2 day shipping the wait isn’t terrible either.
Idk tamiya is old school so their old school ppl, these new companies are trying new things but tamiya’s crawler pickup still reminds me of the lunchbox and the Blackfoot
i have just ordered this and i understand it could be a Tamiya knock off , so id just like to thank Tamiya as well , thanks Tamiya for this cheaper truck ;)
Thank you for a nice presentation as always! Could you please try to fit the Bruiser chassis to the RC4WD Chevrolet Blazer body if you have time? I am curious to see how it will fit, because I have a Tamiya Mountaineer, which have exactly the same chassis as the Bruiser, and I wonder if it will fit the Blazer body. Looking at the specs, the wheelbase seem about the same, and with smaller tires and wheels it they may fit in the wheel wells of the Blazer. There are adapter kits to fit the standard center wheel bolts to be had. Cheers.
I can say it wont fit quite low enough with the factory electronics box on the back of the frame. The wheelbase is pretty much the same. I test fitted one on an old bruiser I had last year.
I had the original bruiser. I forgot it's only 4 wheel drive in 1st gear. Back with the original 1 you had to use a stick controller and make a plate out of plastic be put on the left stick to shift. Maybe you know what I mean. I don't think they had pistol controllers back then. And I think the motor was a 750 not a 720.
To be fair, the Toyota it is based on is still a popular trail truck even with leaf springs. I have an original Bruiser... well parts of the original. I have the; frame, axles and springs. The trans was toast and so was the body. As for copyright, China just doesn't care. Top Gear pointed it out with the BMW, who sued the Chinese company and lost.
why have you got 45 dislikes ?? what is to dislike here ??, lovely honest review , please if one of you people that have disliked this could explain , i would really appreciate it , thanks
What a nice machine, I've ordered the white one, as for -who's got the right to build this Outlaw replica- (as long) as they don't use the name Toyota on the product, I doubt there will be any Copywrite problems, I think I'll make mine into a Toybota like Jezza made in top gear and call it the Outlaw and put removable drums on the sides, and an outboard on the back, How Hard can it be?? lol.
I had the org Bruiser 28 years ago , I'd like to buy another , but for $1600 Can fundo's with tax , no chance in hell. Tamiya has completely lost their minds , Kyosho thank god kept their re-releases within reason. Using a old mold SHOULD be less expensive , not more expensive ..in theory , this is a open handed slap in the face.
I owned the original never the re-re, the steering is the same,,,, sux. I ordered one based on the positive reviews. Now I won't feel so guilty and broke modding it with some accessories.
Tamiya is a total ripoff and shouldn't be able to charge so freaking much anyways... who cares about reproduction rights of an oldass rc model that tamiya made their money back ten fold a long freaking time ago... I just happily payed 197 US to banggood for this and will never buy that bogus plastic tub garbage from tamiya.. thanks for the time you put into this video and keep up the good work!
Please let us know what your thoughts are for steering upgrade before my truck arrives :) Upgrading the servo, installing a decent servo saver, change the steering rods to something thicker?
You mentioned it though, the price. Tamyia will always sell new for a way high price and used at a even higher. Like you said non name brand is identical but drop the name drop the price and the knock off is still making money for someone.
Same thing with hpi gas baja and losi 5ive t . Kingmotor makes a baja with a damn RCMK motor for $600. Vs hpi $1100 rovan makes losi 5ive knock off with a damn RCMK for $800 vs $1350 ive got all 4 and im here to say the damn knock offs are better and way less $ reason there better is the RCMK motor is top of the line hell better cranks than zenoah ! So im.glad you got it
@@RCeveryday if you do look at kingmotor also . Same co different name . See if you can get one with RCMK motor. I have a new OBR 30.5 FULL MOD i never dropped in ill trade you for a rat rod :)
Nice video man, at the risk of sounding stupid.....why does it have rear trailing links with a leaf spring and shock set up. Is it to stop axle tramp.????
Tamiya needs to have prices that are more affordable.. 750 for this truck and another company can sell them for 200.. thats a 500 dollar mark up for something they designed in the 70s-80s.. 300-400 would be a better argument for brand loyalty. But with a 500 dollar difference it feels like tamiya is just trying to stick it to people..
Tamiyas is way expencive and i have concitered buying one of these myself and rebuild it to a more crawler look. Some pattens is only payed for 40 years, less and more, so maby thats why tamiya havn done enything yeat?! Great video.
I paid 500 bucks for my first one 30 years ago from a local hobby store,i just paid 250 for one of these on ebay, the local hobby stores would get more business if they didn't have so much greedy markup.also 30 years ago I paid 80 bucks for an aluminum transmission housing from my local hobby shop,soon after I ordered the same trans from japan and got it 30 bucks shipped to my door. most things are made in japan or china so how can they make their own knock-offs. rc4wd gets their stuff from china or japan. go to sears around Christmas to the tool department,and you will see the same china boxes that harbor freight or other cheap tool stores get. my loyalty is , if I can get the exact same thing for half the price then one of them has one hell of a greedy mark-up
inflation is where it went from 500 to 700 dollars, but someone decided to deflate the price to 250,and im sure they are still making money or they could not afford to sell them that cheap.a big company like tamya could afford to meet in the middle and they would sell at least double and that would help the local hobby shops as well.
They are quite expensive (£160), but you can buy a set of silver polished alloy beadlock rims in a similar design to the OE wheels for the Bruiser that have a different front offset and that correct the annoying front to rear track width discrepancy. If this truck uses the same hub design as the original, then they should fit 🙂👍🏻
There are several options to fix the narrow front end. I went the route of adding front spacers, and it's working out fairly well. Here's couple of video runs: Video #1: trail run - ruclips.net/video/Kj_Gn3-H5Ig/видео.html Video #2: Creek trail run - ruclips.net/video/6ksZkb5-bS4/видео.html
Regarding copyright: this product can't be copyrighted. Copyright is for printed material. For eg: if they called it a Bruiser, Tamiya, Toyota, etc, yeah it would be copyright infringement. What this "could" be is patent infringement. BUT with that being said, a 4 wheel drive all metal construction R/C truck is too generic to be patented. Same as leaf springs, metal diff, etc. Tamiya couldn't patent that stuff because again, it's too generic. It'd be like Ferrari trying to patent a double clutch gear box. Even still, patents only last for 20 years and since Tamiya released the Bruiser in 1984, the patents have long expired. I don't feel bad in this case, Tamiya made their investment back 10 fold.
Regarding the ethics: As I said, Tamiya released the Bruiser in 1984, they made their money. Plus, if someone could afford to buy a Bruiser, they wouldn't buy this. All this product does is allow someone who normally couldn't afford a scale all metal R/C car to get into it. This kind of reminds me of when fake Rolex watches came out in the 80s. Rolex was freaking out over it. BUT I had 3 or 4 and didn't mind because no way in HELL was my buying a "lump" detracting from Rolex sales because the cost of a real Rolex was a year's salary for me. For me anyways, I might pick up one of these to horse around with. I won't lose any sleep. Tamiya has made thousands off me over the years and frankly, aren't losing anything because I can't afford to pay $800 CDN for a toy. However, I could see spending $300 cdn.
Tamiya is not exactly squeaky clean when it comes to copy right infringement. The original Clod Buster had to loose the Chevy grille, tailgate and Chevrolet branding. The Midnight pumpkin had to lose the Ford branding and even the Wild Willy had to have a grille remodel.
It's a matter of opinion as I see it. My opinion would be to not support anyone who uses or used predatory practice's. I totally support ethical competition. However small gains today, gathered unethically, usually end up with someone or something being the very thing that cuts our own throat tommorow. Example; I live in a rural area where some things such as gasoline is more expensive due to increased shipping costs. Even though I go to the city very often where it is noticibly cheaper I still spend the money in my community. I rarely go to Walmart, but when I do I don't go through the self checkout . It is my belief that some day those machines are going to take even more jobs. I'm not judging anyone, nor am I trying to change anyone. Just offering some perspective. Love your channel. As long as you have good content like you have I'll keep watching. Scale on...
At the end of the day its not the consumer thats done the copying of this truck its the boys in china and im sorry to say if you can get this for half the price of the bruiser then of course people are going to go for this one anyone with half a brain is going to get it its upto tamiya guys to put a stop to it not us i say everyones looking for a bargain so its obvious what people are going to go for no need to feel guilty about getting it if tamiya aint that bothered why should we be get it bought
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So the stuff from Ban Goody looks pretty cool , but also seems pretty cheep . Nothing that would compete with anything from RC 4 wheel drive? Am I right?
Some of it is, I mean a $40 RC is what you would expect it to be. But this truck and the 8x8 army truck I have from the brand HG are completely hobby grade. This truck is identical to the Tamiya version and both have all metal chassis and drivetrain.
Both versions axles do lock, but only the kit version includes the pins to lock it. HG does not sell the locking pins separatly as far as I know. But they should be available from Tamiya. This page shows the pin size. www.tamiyaclub.com/forum/index.php?/topic/87007-bruiser-rn36-re-release-frontrear-differential-locking-screw-pin/
It has a small lipo with a cheap deans style connector. I am unsure about using Mah batteries with the esc it comes with. I bet you can switch it to work with them just unsure the process.
Your video helped in my decision to pick this one up. I have had it for few months and now, and after few mods it has become pretty decent trail runner. I uploaded a few videos of the trail runs. Let me know what you think. Video #1: trail run - ruclips.net/video/Kj_Gn3-H5Ig/видео.html Video #2: Creek trail run - ruclips.net/video/6ksZkb5-bS4/видео.html
I meant that I will get one. I did get one, I also have a Tamiya Bruiser too. I think I will paint mine to look like the Tamiya Mountain Rider truck because I already have a Bruiser. I have already found that the Tamiya body will fit this truck perfectly. Thank you for your review of this truck.
After so many years from original release anyone can copy it. Or if there is a certain percentage of difference. Like the toyato. That may be enough of a difference to get by. However, tamiya needs to get with the damn program and give us something new. Release a 90s Toyota or something. GEEZE. I'm so pissed with tamiya. They have basically vanished. I give props to the Chinese or whoever. They have found a market with huge amounts of money to be made. I'll never regret getting a better deal or buying knockoff. Especially if the quality is there!
I've been saying for 15+ years that Tamiya needs to upgrade their plastic. They're still using the bridle crap from the early 80's. Yes....they are many years behind other companies as far as electronic's and plastic quality. They need to partner-up with Traxxas or Pro-line to learn better plastic manufacturing. And $800 for a kits that is that far outdated is insane. I look at it this way....alot consumer will pay $300 but never 8 or 900 dollars for a rig....so Tamiya is not losing anything to this knock-off.
If I had $600 for a realistic scale rig I would probably get the rc4wd marlin crawler. Ive built so many TF2's and I know what they need to perform better, and the marlin version has a lot of those options right out of the box. Id spend the remaining money on paints to make it look more real though, lol
Lance Larymore ... RC4WD has a bunch of really nice kits in 1/10, KING KONG RC has 3 fantastic kits in 1/12 that are even more scale than RC4WD with scale 2mm hex head bolts throughout the kit.
I my ex girlfriend use to work at Tamiya, and there is no shame in you buying this clone, and for all the folks who actually believe that this is hurting Tamiya, ummm, if you only knew (maybe you know?) how many people Tamiya has scammed, stolen and ruined over the past 60 years, you would not be saying that... This is just a taste of Tamiya's own medicine... How about asking the vintage company's like MRC, and Thorp, among others, I think MRC had also been screwed over by them as well, on a level that ruined them. Bolink even had run-in's with Tamiya, and got bulldozes over, to the point, that any Injection molded chassis easements designs were not even allowed, hence, the crappy ABS sheet stock, heat folded U-channel chassis's.. Now those cheap Bolink legends cars were fun, and could take beating while thrashing about, sure, they were junk, but sure was fun... Again, ask those company's what they think about this clone and Tamiya, you won't find a year from them.. and the price of Tamiya product over the past 20 to 30 years, like this series of truck, the Avanti, and a few others were through the roof, and now, Tamiya jumped on the bandwagon from seeing the prices on eBay of vintage units being sold, hence, the Moutaineer, and the new re-releases of today, selling for $790 to $1100 USD... When the tooling is already dialed in for manufacturing these various units. When my EX worked for them, the actual cost to ship, out the door, to warehouses in the USA, back in the 90's when the Mountaineer was in production, was $29 USD... That includes the shipping to the U.S.... Granted, the shipment to the warehouse consisted of 500 to 1500 units, but never the less, the cost of my Mountaineer back then was $899.99, and no electronics. Sure, the middle men, warehouses, and store fronts that have over head, need to make money... But keeping in traditional mark-up fees, of 50 to 80 percent, still wouldn't bring the final cost to what Tamiya's MSRP demand was, while not being allowed to buy directly from them, and had to order from these suppliers/warehouses... I personally find it funny, that folks are defending Asian manufacturing, that does not morally live by any standards of safe and fair business and manufacturing practices, and has no issues beating the heck out of a competitor, or small mom & pop started company... The slipper clutch design, the doggone halfshaft/driveshaft design, and a few other designs, that they stole from somebody else, and then trade locked it down, (patent in China/asia), then would beat the heck out of anybody who already had those in their designs/kits, or anybody who planned on using that design... The Chevy body on the ClodBuster, among other body's that they injection molded, like the Midnight Pumpkin ,the Lunchbox, etc... suppose they ever paid for the rights to use those design?, never mind mentioning the Porsche deal and the nonpayment with Rothmans... Lol.. Nope, if you folks want to own your very own clone Bruiser, Mountaineer, etc... Then you go right ahead.. I digress, Tamiya has no shame, and frankly, are just being handed some cards that they used to deal out... Except now, it is by another company that is richer then Tamiya is, lol... Enjoy
I have owned only one bruiser. bought it second hand back in 89' . I still have it, and im still "playing" with it.... kinda.. It does see a LOT of shelf time. funny thing is that I have never actually drove it, I just keep tarring it down for improvements and put it back together again. You can see it in R.C. Car Action, January 1996. and a updated version at, www.zurru.de/english/randys_t3e.htm I just might look into this unit... Thanks for posting!
no kiddn".. that's cool. that was actually the second version, the first version the body was made out of wood. Then in my 20's I landed a job at a machine shop... That's all it took...
Was it ever on the cover? Seems like I remember a different version of it. With a flame thrower. lol I remember it though, It was what opened my eyes up to a whole other world of RC. It made me start thinking outside the kit
that version that was in the mag, has a funny story behind it. at that time I was driving truck when RCCA wanted to do the photo shoot. The truck wasn't quite finished so I actually packed up all my hobby tools and stuff, loaded it into my truck and off I went. At the photo shoot of course they , Chris, wanted to se it work, I turned it on and the batteries instantly dumped.. I was rather embarrassed. When I got back home and was able to try and figure what was wrong I ended up powering the truck with an outside power source, ( to give myself time to track the fault) and as im testing circuits….poof!....up in flames it went.... so needless to say that's when I started the third build... and that is the build that is documented and photographed on Martin Zurru's Buriser / 4Runner page. A much more refined version. but after all the time and money invested, I never got the nerve to turn it on.... and Thank you for the kind words.
Wow, thats sad it burned. But that is an awesome story. It really is a small world. I still havent found my vintage magazines, I know I have that issue somewhere though.
tamiya should start building full metal scale kits. like rc4wd and axial. tamiya was a good start in to the hobby. but at some age you look on tamiya and say: its more a toy for kids than something tmo use on the trail. same problem like nintendo. they start with gaming early. they made great stuff in the early days. but everything they bring out today is way to weak what belongs to the power of the consoles and all other things. a good toy. but the hardware is so bad today compared to every other console...nintendo was cool, big, and strong....20 years ago
I had started to swap the esc because I thought I had fried it, turns out it was fine. Not sure what it is capable of running, the instructions werent clear.
@@RCeveryday that's weird. I got one last week and it came with locking pins. You can just use a heavier weight oil and it'll mostly function the same.
In order to lock the axles, you've got to take out a set screw from the top of the differential and drop in a pin?!? Is there an access port for the set screw at least? There are lockable axles out there with a switch built right on to the axles, just push it from free to locked and you're ready to go. To go through all that just to lock the axles is beyond ridiculous.
In the early 2000’s when no company’s stock made scale trucks all we had were the original tamiya bruisers to modify. People use to machine down front axles to put on the rear and fabricate adapters to fit 1.9 wheels. It’s a clone of the 1980s tamiya truck.
I have over 65 R/C cars and tanks and have been collecting for years and I don't think I have been as impressed as I was with this car for the money. I bought the kit version so I used better servos and ancillary electronics but it was so good I bought one for my brother for Christmas.
A hobbywing 60A with a 45T engine, some 15kg servos and with my basic go-to radio, a GT3C/IT-4S it is just an awesome bash around the yard truck. It's not an associated or a mugen but for a few hundred it's the best run around I've ever owned. It has replaced my RC10T4 as the car I keep in the trunk for a bit of fun.
The 2WD gives me a chance to slide and get loose the 4WD gets me anywhere.
I bought a Proline body as the included body is too good to trash with my abuse and challenging driving style.
Apart from my RC10B4, my main go to car, the best R/C car I own. Not the fastest but without doubt the most fun and such a good looking truck.
I won't go into brand loyalty as that is a perspective but I doubt that Losi or Traxxas et al gave Associated much in royalties after the blatant RC10 rip offs over the years.
It's racing and if an idea works they will copy, this is no different, in fact the build quality is better than my Hi-Lift Tamiya in many important areas.
My BAJA 5B buggies are built with more aftermarket parts than original and in fact I built a complete car from aftermarket that shames my original 5B and 5T in quality and performance. At what point is it original...
Grandads old axe had 4 new handles and 2 new heads but it's still grandads old axe :)
Smooth roads
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well said, I have my Dads 78 Chrysler New Yorker Broham he bought new when I was 12,... It had a funky only used 2 or 3 years Lean Burn electronic ignition. Impossible to find and if you do 300mbuck plus ya gotta have a spare if your gonna drive the car very far,... I put a points style distributor in irt, changed the thermoquad carburetor out to a simple stupid edelbrock and it runs great,.. Just because the electronic ignition is unhooked under the hood don't make it so that that's not my dads old Chrysler. I like the axe example! Still grand dads axe, Still my Dads 78 Chrysler New Yorker Broham!
The Tamiya kit is now $1062 at tower! Insane. I can't support Tamiya when their kits cost a ridiculous amount of money. They make more money than I do so I'll choose the copy. I used to be brand loyal back in the day and purchased well over 50 tamiya trucks alone. I think I've lined Tamiya's pockets enough to not feel guilty for buying a copy of this truck at 1/5th the cost (as of 10/20/2018)
Yes it is.just imagine if Tamiya does rerelease the original Hilux,that thing would be topping 1,500 or better.just insanely dumb!
exactly wheels...look at all TAMIYA's competition like the trx4..to me i rather buy the trx4 and get way better remote locking differentials and the trx4 includes the radio..unlike the bruiser and it's less than the TAMIYA...even the new trx 6x6 is cheaper
i totally agree! ;)
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_I can't support Tamiya when their kits cost a ridiculous amount of money._ If the products are manufactured locally, instead of in the People's Republic of Suicide Factories, that can explain the costs. The price tag, in that case, would include safe working conditions and decent pay.
@@IllusionSector Well, we don’t know if Tamiya will ever make a local manufacturing facility in American or Europe. So prices will always be high. You can go ahead and buy a $1k bruiser I’ll settle for the HG model. Not all manufacturer facilities are in subpar standards when it comes to manufacturing other products. My cousin lives in China and she assembles Christmas products and she has nothing to complain about.
Rewatching, a cool and relaxed unboxing plus happy yard driving video of the RC Everyday Library, big fun, thank you👍
I got mine 2 weeks ago. Had to reseal two shocks and add a small washer under all the hub nuts to take up some slop. I've been waiting 33 years to have one. I couldn't afford back then , so I got the Clodbuster.Good times!
Before we display brand loyalty it might be wise to ask ourselves how much loyalty that manufacturer would show to us.
When I bought an HPI Mini Trophy instead of a Chinese knockoff, I thought that, by investing in a quality brand, I was buying into reliable spare parts availability.
It soon became apparent that the Mini Trophy has a heavy appetite for dogbone drive shafts, but I just went along, buying one set at a time as they were needed because I trusted HPI to keep making spares for my truck.
Suddenly they blandly announced that it was no longer cost effective for them to supply spares for this model, and stopped. Now my Mini Trophy is effectively an expensive ornament. If some Chinese firm began offering knockoff driveshafts for my truck I´d show HPI the same degree of loyalty that they showed me!
Obviously, if an original manufacturer´s currently offering a product, it´s a little harder to justify deciding to get the knockoff, but if the original developer won´t meet demand, well...I´m with Josh on this one.
Tamiya need to meet demand at reasonably affordable prices. If they can´t or won´t do that, then my cash is going to end up in China, and I´ll leave consideration of the ethics involved to those whose job it is to decide these matters.
Del350K4 I totally see your point and your info and knowlegde is cool to see as usual. Question, obviously this is a knockoff would any us this be happening if Hobbico was still around??
Good question... : )
Del350K4 While I do agree with you, at the same time, a company can’t continuously make replacement parts forever. They can, but it’s not a smart choice from a business standpoint.
I see your point. I´m sure Ford aren´t still offering new Model "A" cylinder heads, and it would be unreasonable of me to expect them to do so.
Why? Mercedes does.
Totally agree with everything said in this video. Look at it this way, Tamiya has milked this chassis. They sold it in ‘85, sold it again in 2012 and in 2017 the Mountain Rider came back. Always charging $700.00 USD for the kits. Year after year. It’s about time your average Joe who doesn’t wanna be afraid to spend $1000 and break something get to enjoy this now. Ordered one after this video and I am a Tamiya purist, as far as I am concerned, I and many of my RC friends supported the Tamiya company enough and I will continue to do so later. But for now, the Bruiser dream is a reality.
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as long as its legal to buy, you havent done anything wrong. i fly fpv mini quads and im a mechanic at a ford dealership and i have children in school. i buy the cheapest parts that are still good quality and whenever someone mentions that im not flying a 500 dollar quad i just tell them that if they want me to have the most expensive latest and greatest, then they can send it to me or write me a check and then ill fly whatever they want.but as long as im not breaking any laws then ill spend my extra money the way i see fit. i understand that people are ripping off ideas from other people that have put their time and money in designing and i can understand what the problem is but i cant buy what i cant afford. great video and you have a wonderful channel brother
Tims fpv ... explains why you work for Ford
I agree with you. In the end it is a toy and Tamiya was selling it for 700$. That's 900$cad! On Banggood this copy is 400$cad. We're talking a 500$ difference here! I have two choices: buy a toy for 900$ and feel good about supporting the original maker of the toy or buy a toy for 400$ and spend the remaining 500$ on my family. I can't see any argument that would convince me to send an extra 500$ to Tamiya. On the plus side, easy choices like this might be what will push Tamiya to make more affordable models.
Thanks for your review! :)
very good point, agree with you plus the orignal like other member stated its a 20yr old design..I wouldnt mind one of these myself at this cost
Good point... and for Tamiyas price I wold rather get VS4/10 Where everything is not plastic!!!!
even $400 is over price for the fakes
Is the 2012 Bruiser still made by Tamiya? If not, this is fine. If so, buying it discourages Tamiya (and others) from investing the money necessary to develop new RCs. If Tamiya didn't have to pay engineers to design it originally, they could sell these for this price as well.
4864427 it’s about $200 now from banggood.com
I just picked 1 up myself as banggood had them on sale for $179 for the RTR version and even in the USA warehouse 😎👍. I wasn't gonna pass that deal up. I heard great things with these which is cool
It does look good/nice. The boys at GCM were just asking if anyone had one so they can ask some questions on it. You will need to replace all the screws in the body with LURC hardware and paint that can shell. Have fun!!
i think tamiya has lost their mind. charging nearly a grand for a 20 year old design, it's NOT worth it. i also picked up one of these HG models and i am very happy with it, especially happy with the price
agree ;-)
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33+ year design.
And yet people still buy them.... Many for the nostalgia aspect... Or not to destroy their pristine vintage unit. Honestly if it weren't for rc4wd I highly doubt Tamiya would have ever reissued the kits 15 years or so ago. Heck a junk bruiser was running north of $500 us.
I just wish someone would rerealease the blazin blazer
Nearly a grand? It's $1062 on Amain and Tower. I"m picking up an HG and will be able to fulfill my 20 year dream of having one.
Brand loyalty needs to be earned, it is not just a given because they were the first, or their marketing is strong. My experience from brand name after market support has been less than stella. Those days are long gone now, consumers are not blocked by complex business to business logistics anymore, we are a global consumer in a global online marketplace. Manufacture to Consumer is becoming more the norm.
I don't use local hobby stores anymore because there is an alternative now, that's all, it has nothing to do with brands. I also use Netflix instead of a local video rental store, buy mp3s online instead of music from local shops. Things change.
Very true brother. TImes are changing. I cant say no to a deal like this truck. It is awesome for the price. I have been with Tamiya since I was a child. Only had one issue with a kit and customer service was great. The local hobby shop is another touchy subject all together. Here in North texas there are too many people spread out over too large an area. Every now and then a shop will pop up that actually sells RC4wd and scale products but even though its in the metro area the customer base is too spread out to make it survive. Even in the 90's I had summer jobs and I lived and died by my Tower hobbies catalog. Because they had the things the shops didnt. Now its the internet bringing us directly to the manufacturer. I think of my channel and builds as a business, if I can get something cheaper im obligated to do so in order to make my business profitable sort of speak.
I went through a small town about a month ago, they had a video rental store, I couldn't believe it!
cyanide: 3 years ago one tried to make a go of it in the small town I lived in. When I saw the renos going on at the location I couldn't help but think: wtf are you thinking? Not only netflix but torrent downloading will kill your business in a season. I think they were trying to make a go of the game rental as opposed to videos but they didn't last a year.
What killed chains like Blockbuster is the blatant rip off by the distributors. For eg: When Alien vs Predator came out, they had 100 copies to rent. What they did was after a month or so of rental, they put the blu ray and dvds into the used rack and sold them for $10.00. Well, when AVP went in, there were 10 copies. I asked the manager (whom I'd spoken to many times before) he told me the distributor forced them to destroy 90 copies. He said that is normal, they destroy easily 90% of all popular videos to keep the demand up.
So yeah, pure greed. I see NO problem with a studio making money off their product but to artificially inflate the price simply to squeeze one more penny out of your customers, well, now I just find my movies from alternative sources.
Another example is my previous satellite tv provider: $15.00 for the FIRST terminator movie 25 years after it was released? give me a break.
RC Everyday: I was like you, R/C was WAY out of my league and while I wanted to fly so bad as a kid, $2500 to get in the air was half the price my dad paid for our first house. Now? I have or had 1/2 dozen planes each under $100, one with a gyro was $50.00.
I realize hobby shops have to stay in business but seriously, every one I ever went in was WAY over priced but we had no choice. One thing about Tamiya: In Canada, you cannot sell Tamiya via an online store. The only way you can get them (legally) is via Borgfeldt toys and they WILL not sell to online retailers. You have to have a brick and motor store.
The tooling for model kits and R/C are tremendously expensive but with Tamiya, I always felt "do you have to make it up on 10 kits"? lol....I know the quality of their products is good, but seriously priced. I looked at some of their 1/12th motorcycle models and when I built a bunch, they were around $14.00. Last time I looked they were $40.00 where I lived....insane. No wonder kids these days aren't into model building, they can't afford it!
Hey Josh, you’ve got my attention with this one! I might have to order one. As far as ethics go, that truck is made by the same company that currently makes the Tamiya stuff. Different badging, that’s all. Same with RC4WD...they are a brand, not a manufacturer. The Chinese company that sells their products to RC4WD to sell, ALSO sells the same identical products to other retailers to resell.
Either way, cool rig! Awesome vid, as usual. 👍🏼👍🏼
Rc Everyday I just picked up one of these for a scaler project. Yota 2 axles lowered body 1.55's. I couldn't resist at $189
Damn You! After watching your video again, I ordered one. My wife is going to kill me and I blame your wonderful video.
Lol, I might do the same 😱😱
So many of us dead by wife. This hobby is a murderer!
I'm thinking about getting it and my wife is also going to be pissed lol
No one has find out lol just tell her u already had it
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I also had the original inferno burns. It was the 1st 1/8 scale nitro buggy. It started the whole Class which became huge. I think it was in the early 80s.
I'm a consumer ! So ordering one myself & I've got one Og's ( Tamiya ) in Storage transmission is out 😯. Every Tamiya kit I've come across either was picked apart or broken . Still got the lunch box / midnight pumpkin , Bullhead / clod-buster . So I ordered that Redcat Rampage Pro 1.5th Scale Rc M.T can't beat that price 🤞thanks for the review 👌
I love Tamiya, a Midnight Pumpkin was my first hobby grade. Back in 1988. That said, right there with everyone saying its time for them to change. After market part's that Tamiya offer themselves should be added to something like a "pro kit" or whatever. Also coming out with a super scale "class zero" type of truck would be a great move on their part.
Beech Mountain RC Same here on first hobby grade rc being a midnight pumpkin!! I had so much fun with that!! Cheers Mate!!
Great video. I just ordered mine. I have LOTS of Tamiya stuff and will continue to buy them, but I was never a customer for the Bruiser, just too expensive. I will probably drive it a tiny bit and detail the white body out and shelf queen it like many other models I have. I'm thinking chameleon paint since that was the rage in the 80's. And I'm keeping the chrome mini cab but will paint the windows and louvers black.
RC Everyday: I have brought this very same point up in one of Team Associated`s videos of their new C12. They have to get with the times and start making products that will compete with the other company`s out there. the C12 is a nice truck but the truck body is all plastic meaning there is no windows they are just stickers ( i just did a review on it and will be posting it tomorrow). It has 4 LED`s 2 headlight and 2 marker lights but no tail lights and no option to add them since the tail lights are a piece of plastic with a sticker on it. not to mention the LED`s are hard-wired to the chassis so you cant even take the body all the way off if you want to work on the truck. This type of quality is not something I expected from AE especially for the price I paid. I expect stuff like that from the Chinese company`s but not from AE or Losi or HPI. Losi and AE made little 1/24 scale RC cars and the Chinese made better cars at a better price. The big names have to stop living in the glory days where a name could get people to buy your product, that just doesn't t cut it anymore we as consumers what the best deal for the buck and that goes with everything we buy. As far as Traxxas is concerned I am washing my hands of them for the stunt they pulled on a couple who does RC reviews here on youtube. long story short after the couple said the name X-Maxx in their video Traxxas ran to youtube and had them dinged and then went forward with the motion of suing them too. Traxxas then backed down and called off the dogs after a flood of people (me being one of them) attacked them relentlessly. I posted on every Traxxas video I could find how I felt about them "if it wasn't for the amount of money I have already spent I would burn all my trucks" that is one of my quotes. I then reported Traxxas for animal cruelty in one of their videos. I am proud of what I said and what I did. I am sick of big business thinking cuz they have money they can do whatever they want. ok so anyway I have more Traxxas vehicles to get rid of and when i do, I am done with them.
I got one for Christmas love it just needs more aftermarket parts
A lot of the "knock off" parts are made by the same factory as the name brand items these days. If you take them apart, you'll probably have a hard time finding any difference between the two.
Jackie Brown Jr
Yep wish People would get it!! All my rc4wd stuff is made in China. Says it smack dab on the box...
Neat looking truck. The steering reminds me of an old Willys jeep with the arm on the frame.
To be honest, I bet this was PROBABLY made in the same Chinese factory Tamiya used to make their repops. Therefore, they had all the stampings and molds to recreate it exactly. As someone who has worked in a manufacturing environment, I am not opposed to getting products made in China. There are a lot of good plants that are producing "Japanese" quality products. They are catching on that the consumer doesn't want the "cheapo" Chinese made products anymore.
If you knew the truth,... Tamiya probably owns this factory and this business. Ran out of buyers for their 8 or 900 dollar truck,.... used it up,... started making them under another name,... Im a Tamiya collector / restorer and have 3 82 Hi Lux, 1 Blazing blazer, 3 bruisers from 86 and 3 Mountaineers from 93,.. never bought a re re ….. I bought 2 of these , both in kit form a black and a white one because I of course have much better radio gear and I would want to disassemble this truck and re assemble it anyway so whats the point of Buying a RTR with cheap radio gear and not knowing wether or not the person who assembled the RTR did it right or not,.. the demand on these trucks is so high they gotta be throwing them together as fast as possible with almost no quality control what so ever,.. just bang em out and get em shipped.
This truck is defo on my next to get list. Original tamiya cars truck and the like are for rich fan boys. Iv only ever had tamiya but I can have this without needing to justify the cost. Total no brainer.
there is a direct steering upgrade you can do which puts the servo up under the motor area.
even in the uk Tamiya kits don't come cheep, so to have this truck come out at almost under half the price of the tamiya you just can not say no. I think you are right in saying Tamiya are set in the past, just look how popular the wpl 1/16 trucks have been, Tamiya should off done something like them when they first came out with their tanks. I think your right Tamiya should release the hilux and the blazing blazer but only as a one speed 4x4 that way it could keep the price down and maybe compete with the other manufactures. like a lot of people who saw these kits when the first came out would of jumped at the chance to of owned one, but even then they where not cheep, they are going to buy this truck and I could be one of them
If I can ever.... I'm getting one! I was explaining my story as a reply to another comment here on your Video.
Yeah, Clones bother me! Enough to not buy any?? HELL NO!
Given the over inflation of RC Prices in the past 2 Decades (DESPITE the horrific Crash in 2007!!), and that now I'm a very poor Disabled Veteran, I haven't been able to afford ANY new Rigs, in over a Decade! 😭😭😭
I can't even afford one of these *TOMATO" Clones!!! But IF I become able, I'm DAMN SURE getting one!!! The Nostalgia alone is worth it!! 🍺👍👍 That, and I wouldn't feel ANYTHING about Modifying anything on it.
FIRST thing - *DUMP those NYLON Tires!!!!* 😱😫🙅 Never liked them, can't believe that they were also used on the Blackfoot - OG and re-re! And, on the Bruiser re-release! They're possibly the worst Tires EVER put on a RC.
Second thing - RC4WD Leaf Springs.... because they WORK. Tamiya's Leaf Springs have always been too stiff.
This will NEVER be a Pro Crawler, by any stretch. Nobody should expect that. But, since it won't Butthurt any Collectors, a couple of Mods to make it more pleasant for ME, why not??
Thanks! This was an excellent look at this controversial Rig!
Carmine 💥 ⛽
I ordered one it came with the battery plugged in and it fried up all the electrics nothing worked. Now ordered all new just to see. I have a original bruiser. But had to have a clone. I been into rc since I was 14. I still have the rc10 gold chassis I built. Plus a rc10l road I built. Still going strong. My clone is being redone. Since it was fried
I received 50.00 gift card for Amazon so I got this truck for $150.00.liked it a lot and got 2 more off eBay for $178.00 each.compare that to $600.00+ for the original,I'm happy with it. Still there is something to be said for the original (12-23)
The original bruiser I had with the 3 section transmission had that same body that you have there.
Luv your Workbench/display!!! Thanks for the Video !!
watching this rig bounce around the back yard, I thought maybe adding a little lead to it. give something to flex those springs a bit. It defanatly has the torque.
Just seems like in todays world there are no boundaries that other manufacturers won't cross we are seeing our local hobby shops going out of business because of the market being flooded with those knockoffs.Sad but that's just how it is now a day's.I still have the original version and me personally will only by the originals but that's just me.Its still just a toy no matter how you look at it.
Robert Rosson
I totally agree with you. The Clones are just TOO attractively priced, to NOT buy them. And that's sad.
I have been a Tamiya Loyalist since 1982, with their Lamborghini LM002, Army Spec Off-Road Vehicle! I spent 10 whole years, TRYING to make a Hornet WORK - at least as good as anything competitive at the time!! 😱
When the Bruiser came out, I was a 20 year old BOY, who would have sold his Left Nut to get one!! It never happened.
8 years later, I had another chance - but I chose to get the new Avante, which then, was $100 less than the Bruiser.
When Tamiya Re-Re'ed the Bruiser a few years back - even with the *750 Motor,* I wanted it SO BAD! By then, I became completely Disabled, with NO WAY of coming up with the INSANE amount of money they wanted for it. 😱😥😭
It was looking like I would NEVER be able to afford any Bruiser - and then THIS came out!! Am I upset that it's a shameless Clone? Absolutely!!
Would it stop me from getting one?? Given my situation, as a very poor Disabled Veteran, if I can even afford THAT - *Yes, absolutely!*
Would I be proud of it? No. But, as I'm getting closer to 60 years old, WITHOUT the Earning potential that seemingly Everyone else in the Hobby seems to, I just want to know what one FEELS like. I'm too old to be worried about impressing anyone!!
Hobby shops are going out because everyone buys parts online. Hobby shops can sell knock offs too if they wanted. Times are changing, people get better deals online and with 2 day shipping the wait isn’t terrible either.
Tamiya is raising all their prices on all their kits.
Idk tamiya is old school so their old school ppl, these new companies are trying new things but tamiya’s crawler pickup still reminds me of the lunchbox and the Blackfoot
i have just ordered this and i understand it could be a Tamiya knock off , so id just like to thank Tamiya as well , thanks Tamiya for this cheaper truck ;)
Thank you for a nice presentation as always!
Could you please try to fit the Bruiser chassis to the RC4WD Chevrolet Blazer body if you have time? I am curious to see how it will fit, because I have a Tamiya Mountaineer, which have exactly the same chassis as the Bruiser, and I wonder if it will fit the Blazer body. Looking at the specs, the wheelbase seem about the same, and with smaller tires and wheels it they may fit in the wheel wells of the Blazer. There are adapter kits to fit the standard center wheel bolts to be had.
Cheers.
I can say it wont fit quite low enough with the factory electronics box on the back of the frame. The wheelbase is pretty much the same. I test fitted one on an old bruiser I had last year.
I had the original bruiser. I forgot it's only 4 wheel drive in 1st gear. Back with the original 1 you had to use a stick controller and make a plate out of plastic be put on the left stick to shift. Maybe you know what I mean. I don't think they had pistol controllers back then. And I think the motor was a 750 not a 720.
The toyato stickers are cool just flip the a and o around
To be fair, the Toyota it is based on is still a popular trail truck even with leaf springs. I have an original Bruiser... well parts of the original. I have the; frame, axles and springs. The trans was toast and so was the body.
As for copyright, China just doesn't care. Top Gear pointed it out with the BMW, who sued the Chinese company and lost.
Like the mini workshop
why have you got 45 dislikes ?? what is to dislike here ??, lovely honest review , please if one of you people that have disliked this could explain , i would really appreciate it , thanks
What a nice machine, I've ordered the white one, as for -who's got the right to build this Outlaw replica- (as long) as they don't use the name Toyota on the product, I doubt there will be any Copywrite problems, I think I'll make mine into a Toybota like Jezza made in top gear and call it the Outlaw and put removable drums on the sides, and an outboard on the back, How Hard can it be?? lol.
Hey if Tayimia was cheaper that would be awesome
I had the org Bruiser 28 years ago , I'd like to buy another , but for $1600 Can fundo's with tax , no chance in hell.
Tamiya has completely lost their minds , Kyosho thank god kept their re-releases within reason.
Using a old mold SHOULD be less expensive , not more expensive ..in theory , this is a open handed slap in the face.
Hows that front axle coming along ?
I owned the original never the re-re, the steering is the same,,,, sux. I ordered one based on the positive reviews. Now I won't feel so guilty and broke modding it with some accessories.
Tamiya is a total ripoff and shouldn't be able to charge so freaking much anyways... who cares about reproduction rights of an oldass rc model that tamiya made their money back ten fold a long freaking time ago... I just happily payed 197 US to banggood for this and will never buy that bogus plastic tub garbage from tamiya.. thanks for the time you put into this video and keep up the good work!
Please let us know what your thoughts are for steering upgrade before my truck arrives :)
Upgrading the servo, installing a decent servo saver, change the steering rods to something thicker?
Great job brotha it looks mean! Do u think it’s worth the $300? I agree I hat the philips heads on the tamiyas
You mentioned it though, the price. Tamyia will always sell new for a way high price and used at a even higher. Like you said non name brand is identical but drop the name drop the price and the knock off is still making money for someone.
Same thing with hpi gas baja and losi 5ive t . Kingmotor makes a baja with a damn RCMK motor for $600. Vs hpi $1100 rovan makes losi 5ive knock off with a damn RCMK for $800 vs $1350 ive got all 4 and im here to say the damn knock offs are better and way less $ reason there better is the RCMK motor is top of the line hell better cranks than zenoah ! So im.glad you got it
Nice! Ive been considering getting one of those rovan buggies
@@RCeveryday if you do look at kingmotor also . Same co different name . See if you can get one with RCMK motor. I have a new OBR 30.5 FULL MOD i never dropped in ill trade you for a rat rod :)
great video! I'm in the currently doing a TF2. What cab back do you recommend? there is a half and fun cab back.
full cab back
I yota 2 swapped my bruiser clone n moved my steering servo
the thing about knock off is if no one buys them they can't sell them
Nice video man, at the risk of sounding stupid.....why does it have rear trailing links with a leaf spring and shock set up.
Is it to stop axle tramp.????
In theory it would be to prevent axle wrap, but I think in this case its just more for looks
Tamiya needs to have prices that are more affordable.. 750 for this truck and another company can sell them for 200.. thats a 500 dollar mark up for something they designed in the 70s-80s.. 300-400 would be a better argument for brand loyalty. But with a 500 dollar difference it feels like tamiya is just trying to stick it to people..
Tamiyas is way expencive and i have concitered buying one of these myself and rebuild it to a more crawler look. Some pattens is only payed for 40 years, less and more, so maby thats why tamiya havn done enything yeat?! Great video.
I paid 500 bucks for my first one 30 years ago from a local hobby store,i just paid 250 for one of these on ebay, the local hobby stores would get more business if they didn't have so much greedy markup.also 30 years ago I paid 80 bucks for an aluminum transmission housing from my local hobby shop,soon after I ordered the same trans from japan and got it 30 bucks shipped to my door. most things are made in japan or china so how can they make their own knock-offs. rc4wd gets their stuff from china or japan. go to sears around Christmas to the tool department,and you will see the same china boxes that harbor freight or other cheap tool stores get. my loyalty is , if I can get the exact same thing for half the price then one of them has one hell of a greedy mark-up
jb3161 It's called inflation. Most hobby shops barely make enough to stay open, that's why there are so few left....
inflation is where it went from 500 to 700 dollars, but someone decided to deflate the price to 250,and im sure they are still making money or they could not afford to sell them that cheap.a big company like tamya could afford to meet in the middle and they would sell at least double and that would help the local hobby shops as well.
Fantastic vid brother again , great rig for the price 😁😀😁
My Brother baught a bruiser back in the late 80's , that thing was Awesome , had a blast with it , we even took it muddling .how much is this one ?
They are around $300
3:08 _My last little WPL crawler from BangGood came..._ banged good?
It doesn't hurt Tamiya any more than someone buying a Fiero hurts Ferrari.
Great job! I want one!
8:25 IMO: The biggest flaw is the narrow front end , everything else can be fixed.
They are quite expensive (£160), but you can buy a set of silver polished alloy beadlock rims in a similar design to the OE wheels for the Bruiser that have a different front offset and that correct the annoying front to rear track width discrepancy.
If this truck uses the same hub design as the original, then they should fit 🙂👍🏻
There are several options to fix the narrow front end. I went the route of adding front spacers, and it's working out fairly well. Here's couple of video runs: Video #1: trail run - ruclips.net/video/Kj_Gn3-H5Ig/видео.html Video #2: Creek trail run - ruclips.net/video/6ksZkb5-bS4/видео.html
Regarding copyright: this product can't be copyrighted. Copyright is for printed material. For eg: if they called it a Bruiser, Tamiya, Toyota, etc, yeah it would be copyright infringement. What this "could" be is patent infringement. BUT with that being said, a 4 wheel drive all metal construction R/C truck is too generic to be patented. Same as leaf springs, metal diff, etc. Tamiya couldn't patent that stuff because again, it's too generic. It'd be like Ferrari trying to patent a double clutch gear box.
Even still, patents only last for 20 years and since Tamiya released the Bruiser in 1984, the patents have long expired. I don't feel bad in this case, Tamiya made their investment back 10 fold.
Regarding the ethics: As I said, Tamiya released the Bruiser in 1984, they made their money. Plus, if someone could afford to buy a Bruiser, they wouldn't buy this. All this product does is allow someone who normally couldn't afford a scale all metal R/C car to get into it.
This kind of reminds me of when fake Rolex watches came out in the 80s. Rolex was freaking out over it. BUT I had 3 or 4 and didn't mind because no way in HELL was my buying a "lump" detracting from Rolex sales because the cost of a real Rolex was a year's salary for me.
For me anyways, I might pick up one of these to horse around with. I won't lose any sleep. Tamiya has made thousands off me over the years and frankly, aren't losing anything because I can't afford to pay $800 CDN for a toy. However, I could see spending $300 cdn.
I agree completely.
Tamiya is not exactly squeaky clean when it comes to copy right infringement. The original Clod Buster had to loose the Chevy grille, tailgate and Chevrolet branding. The Midnight pumpkin had to lose the Ford branding and even the Wild Willy had to have a grille remodel.
Cool truck sir.
It's a matter of opinion as I see it. My opinion would be to not support anyone who uses or used predatory practice's. I totally support ethical competition. However small gains today, gathered unethically, usually end up with someone or something being the very thing that cuts our own throat tommorow. Example; I live in a rural area where some things such as gasoline is more expensive due to increased shipping costs. Even though I go to the city very often where it is noticibly cheaper I still spend the money in my community. I rarely go to Walmart, but when I do I don't go through the self checkout . It is my belief that some day those machines are going to take even more jobs. I'm not judging anyone, nor am I trying to change anyone. Just offering some perspective. Love your channel. As long as you have good content like you have I'll keep watching. Scale on...
And Blazing Blazer too
Did you use the standard shipping to get it in one week?
At the end of the day its not the consumer thats done the copying of this truck its the boys in china and im sorry to say if you can get this for half the price of the bruiser then of course people are going to go for this one anyone with half a brain is going to get it its upto tamiya guys to put a stop to it not us i say everyones looking for a bargain so its obvious what people are going to go for no need to feel guilty about getting it if tamiya aint that bothered why should we be get it bought
Sweet rig good job on the video ,an Its about having fun I'm new to the hobby an see both side
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Is this car is waterproof???
Which is best hgp407or gtr86100?? Please tell me
No windshield wipers ?
You able to change the wheels and put 1.9 or 2.2 wheels from axial ? Very interested of getting this
Not without an adapter. But they stick out too far in my opinion.
would it be possible to flip the rear U bolts over so they are Not sticking down like that ?
Tamiya should sue this clone companies.
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So the stuff from Ban Goody looks pretty cool , but also seems pretty cheep . Nothing that would compete with anything from RC 4 wheel drive? Am I right?
Some of it is, I mean a $40 RC is what you would expect it to be. But this truck and the 8x8 army truck I have from the brand HG are completely hobby grade. This truck is identical to the Tamiya version and both have all metal chassis and drivetrain.
So you need to biy the kit version the has pin on it to lock the axle?
Both versions axles do lock, but only the kit version includes the pins to lock it. HG does not sell the locking pins separatly as far as I know. But they should be available from Tamiya. This page shows the pin size. www.tamiyaclub.com/forum/index.php?/topic/87007-bruiser-rn36-re-release-frontrear-differential-locking-screw-pin/
Henry Cunanan HG Clone p/n is CX001
that chrome is crazy lol
Hell i definately get one of that things i love it very much eventho i belive it is not that sturdy and reliable as the Original is
Youll be surprised. I say this is every bit as good of quality as the Tamiya version.
What kind of battery does it use? What type of connector? I just bought one and I want to buy spare batteries. Will it hurt it if I go up in maH?
It has a small lipo with a cheap deans style connector. I am unsure about using Mah batteries with the esc it comes with. I bet you can switch it to work with them just unsure the process.
@@RCeveryday what are the battery compartment dimensions?
I dont have he exact numbers but it will fit a normal sized stick pack. The included battery comes in a hard case and looks like a 6 cell stick pack.
Your video helped in my decision to pick this one up. I have had it for few months and now, and after few mods it has become pretty decent trail runner. I uploaded a few videos of the trail runs. Let me know what you think. Video #1: trail run - ruclips.net/video/Kj_Gn3-H5Ig/видео.html Video #2: Creek trail run - ruclips.net/video/6ksZkb5-bS4/видео.html
I was wondering, do the screws already have thread lock on them? Banggood was having a sale on this truck. It was $200.00 plus postage.
Most of the truck has lock nuts on it so no thread lock is needed.
Thank you for the information. U think I will get one.@@RCeveryday
I meant that I will get one. I did get one, I also have a Tamiya Bruiser too. I think I will paint mine to look like the Tamiya Mountain Rider truck because I already have a Bruiser. I have already found that the Tamiya body will fit this truck perfectly. Thank you for your review of this truck.
After so many years from original release anyone can copy it. Or if there is a certain percentage of difference. Like the toyato. That may be enough of a difference to get by. However, tamiya needs to get with the damn program and give us something new. Release a 90s Toyota or something. GEEZE. I'm so pissed with tamiya. They have basically vanished. I give props to the Chinese or whoever. They have found a market with huge amounts of money to be made. I'll never regret getting a better deal or buying knockoff. Especially if the quality is there!
I've been saying for 15+ years that Tamiya needs to upgrade their plastic. They're still using the bridle crap from the early 80's.
Yes....they are many years behind other companies as far as electronic's and plastic quality. They need to partner-up with Traxxas or Pro-line to learn better plastic manufacturing.
And $800 for a kits that is that far outdated is insane.
I look at it this way....alot consumer will pay $300 but never 8 or 900 dollars for a rig....so Tamiya is not losing anything to this knock-off.
is it only 2 wheel drive ?
it says these are 4 wheel drive but your front wheels are not spinning up ?
It has a 3 speed transmission, only in low gear does the 4wd engage.
no problem ,cheers
I like your work shop, real cool.
It's easy to undercut the price of the legit Tamiya version when you don't have to invest in any of the R&D behind it.
True, but the bruiser is a 38 year old design at this point.
If you had $600 buget whats the BEST SCALE trail and crawler
If I had $600 for a realistic scale rig I would probably get the rc4wd marlin crawler. Ive built so many TF2's and I know what they need to perform better, and the marlin version has a lot of those options right out of the box. Id spend the remaining money on paints to make it look more real though, lol
Lance Larymore ... RC4WD has a bunch of really nice kits in 1/10, KING KONG RC has 3 fantastic kits in 1/12 that are even more scale than RC4WD with scale 2mm hex head bolts throughout the kit.
Well done
Fantastic review
I my ex girlfriend use to work at Tamiya, and there is no shame in you buying this clone, and for all the folks who actually believe that this is hurting Tamiya, ummm, if you only knew (maybe you know?) how many people Tamiya has scammed, stolen and ruined over the past 60 years, you would not be saying that... This is just a taste of Tamiya's own medicine... How about asking the vintage company's like MRC, and Thorp, among others, I think MRC had also been screwed over by them as well, on a level that ruined them. Bolink even had run-in's with Tamiya, and got bulldozes over, to the point, that any Injection molded chassis easements designs were not even allowed, hence, the crappy ABS sheet stock, heat folded U-channel chassis's.. Now those cheap Bolink legends cars were fun, and could take beating while thrashing about, sure, they were junk, but sure was fun... Again, ask those company's what they think about this clone and Tamiya, you won't find a year from them.. and the price of Tamiya product over the past 20 to 30 years, like this series of truck, the Avanti, and a few others were through the roof, and now, Tamiya jumped on the bandwagon from seeing the prices on eBay of vintage units being sold, hence, the Moutaineer, and the new re-releases of today, selling for $790 to $1100 USD... When the tooling is already dialed in for manufacturing these various units. When my EX worked for them, the actual cost to ship, out the door, to warehouses in the USA, back in the 90's when the Mountaineer was in production, was $29 USD... That includes the shipping to the U.S.... Granted, the shipment to the warehouse consisted of 500 to 1500 units, but never the less, the cost of my Mountaineer back then was $899.99, and no electronics. Sure, the middle men, warehouses, and store fronts that have over head, need to make money... But keeping in traditional mark-up fees, of 50 to 80 percent, still wouldn't bring the final cost to what Tamiya's MSRP demand was, while not being allowed to buy directly from them, and had to order from these suppliers/warehouses...
I personally find it funny, that folks are defending Asian manufacturing, that does not morally live by any standards of safe and fair business and manufacturing practices, and has no issues beating the heck out of a competitor, or small mom & pop started company... The slipper clutch design, the doggone halfshaft/driveshaft design, and a few other designs, that they stole from somebody else, and then trade locked it down, (patent in China/asia), then would beat the heck out of anybody who already had those in their designs/kits, or anybody who planned on using that design... The Chevy body on the ClodBuster, among other body's that they injection molded, like the Midnight Pumpkin ,the Lunchbox, etc... suppose they ever paid for the rights to use those design?, never mind mentioning the Porsche deal and the nonpayment with Rothmans... Lol.. Nope, if you folks want to own your very own clone Bruiser, Mountaineer, etc... Then you go right ahead.. I digress, Tamiya has no shame, and frankly, are just being handed some cards that they used to deal out... Except now, it is by another company that is richer then Tamiya is, lol... Enjoy
I have owned only one bruiser. bought it second hand back in 89' . I still have it, and im still "playing" with it.... kinda.. It does see a LOT of shelf time. funny thing is that I have never actually drove it, I just keep tarring it down for improvements and put it back together again. You can see it in R.C. Car Action, January 1996. and a updated version at, www.zurru.de/english/randys_t3e.htm I just might look into this unit... Thanks for posting!
Dude thats awesome! Ill have to dig through my old mags and see if I have that issue.
no kiddn".. that's cool. that was actually the second version, the first version the body was made out of wood. Then in my 20's I landed a job at a machine shop... That's all it took...
Was it ever on the cover? Seems like I remember a different version of it. With a flame thrower. lol I remember it though, It was what opened my eyes up to a whole other world of RC. It made me start thinking outside the kit
that version that was in the mag, has a funny story behind it. at that time I was driving truck when RCCA wanted to do the photo shoot. The truck wasn't quite finished so I actually packed up all my hobby tools and stuff, loaded it into my truck and off I went. At the photo shoot of course they , Chris, wanted to se it work, I turned it on and the batteries instantly dumped.. I was rather embarrassed. When I got back home and was able to try and figure what was wrong I ended up powering the truck with an outside power source, ( to give myself time to track the fault) and as im testing circuits….poof!....up in flames it went.... so needless to say that's when I started the third build... and that is the build that is documented and photographed on Martin Zurru's Buriser / 4Runner page. A much more refined version. but after all the time and money invested, I never got the nerve to turn it on.... and Thank you for the kind words.
Wow, thats sad it burned. But that is an awesome story. It really is a small world. I still havent found my vintage magazines, I know I have that issue somewhere though.
tamiya should start building full metal scale kits. like rc4wd and axial. tamiya was a good start in to the hobby. but at some age you look on tamiya and say: its more a toy for kids than something tmo use on the trail.
same problem like nintendo. they start with gaming early. they made great stuff in the early days. but everything they bring out today is way to weak what belongs to the power of the consoles and all other things. a good toy. but the hardware is so bad today compared to every other console...nintendo was cool, big, and strong....20 years ago
Can you run 2 cell lipo and why are you changing on ESC
I had started to swap the esc because I thought I had fried it, turns out it was fine. Not sure what it is capable of running, the instructions werent clear.
Is it missing the diff-pins to lock the axls?
It did not come with the pins
@@RCeveryday that's weird. I got one last week and it came with locking pins. You can just use a heavier weight oil and it'll mostly function the same.
My clone came with p/n CX001 pins for locking the diffs. Edit: Mine was the kit version.
In order to lock the axles, you've got to take out a set screw from the top of the differential and drop in a pin?!? Is there an access port for the set screw at least?
There are lockable axles out there with a switch built right on to the axles, just push it from free to locked and you're ready to go. To go through all that just to lock the axles is beyond ridiculous.
These do have an access port ( small set screw) to install the lock pin but it is tedious.
Started the crawler genre? Where do you guys get this stuff from?
In the early 2000’s when no company’s stock made scale trucks all we had were the original tamiya bruisers to modify. People use to machine down front axles to put on the rear and fabricate adapters to fit 1.9 wheels. It’s a clone of the 1980s tamiya truck.