Tom is in his punished arc. At one point he said maybe jokingly that our team was so bad we did not deserve a Quarterback. This team over the past few years has beaten him down so much that he wants us to take the least risky option (hes big trade down) in every situation, so he can keep his expectations lower and be less likely to be let down again.
I think we need to jumpstart the rebuild Trade down Aquire 3 first rounders or better! Rely on a Micheal Penix type player. reach in the first if you have too or trade down twice assuming we trade for 11, 23+ with Vikings to aquire more draft picks in the process. More future Round 1-2 talent to look forward too.
They will not get an offer of four 1st round picks or three 1st round picks plus a pro bowl level player. Just draft the QB of your choice. I think no team is desperate enough to mortgage their future for one of these QBs when either McCarthy will slide to #11 or Penix Jr. is more than good enough to achieve very positive results for the three teams drafting #11, #12, and #13.
Love watching P. Perry and Ron Borges Jr. strange that the man (Right Hand Man) standing two inches from Mayo’s right hand wants a trade down to help the Pats spend nothing on the draft. Draft someone that can play, hoping for Maye.
Vikings have been preparing for maye this whole off season..it all comes down to who the commanders take..the vikings and pats have had this deal in place for a while...the pats could easily take 3 firsts from the vikings...then trade 11 and 23 to get to #5 and still land jj...it's a no Brainerd bur make no mistake,the patriots organization has slowly been preparing the fan base to make this move..it's happening
Makes total sense, draft a worse player because you don’t have the players. Problem with that theory, we will never be able to get better. None of the real Pats fans want that.
Pats going to suck no matter what. We mediocre... bottom dwellers. At least we have the memories. And we need some new voices...tired of hearing Curran.
we have a top 10 defense minimum , our O line is shaping up , good running back group , you have 2 solid tight ends i think people think that we are in a worse position then we actually are ... draft drake maye and go get a X wr and we are in the playoofs with our division in the state its in
Yup they should entertain all scenarios and even package trades or picks and entertain other teams with attractive packages. Basically nothing to lose cause a 5 win team is an improvement
I really don't see what Phil sees in Maye. I've tried to join the bandwagon by watching as much tape on his games as I could find. The result of doing that has actually made me COMPLETELY OUT on him. He's a bust waiting to happen. His hero ball, inconsistent accuracy and nervous energy he plays with scares the hell out of me as a Pats fan. Taking him is a Maye-stake, one that they'll regret for the rest of the decade GUARANTEED.
So you believe JJ McCarthy is a late 1st rounder but you argue the top ranked QB prospects will more than likely bust? Well shouldn't that be enough to convince you JJ is the pick?
Martin and Lewis right before our eyes. Say it ain't so. Please stop. Trade down with Minny and get 11 and 23. Then get WR Brian Thomas at 11 and Micheal Penix or Tyler Guyton at 23. If Guyton then trade up at 27th with AZ for QB Penix or Bo Nix. Don't draft JJ Mccarthy. Thats a mistake at 3. Problem solved. Getting Brandon Aiyuk would be very large. Do it.
I'd take JJ too. Every first-round QB in the history of draft has been a boom vs bust coin-flip. Nobody knows who's gonna hit or who's gonna crumble under the weight. If one guy has the brain, the feet, and the character, you take that guy and cross your fingers. I'm team JJ.
Phil . Tom wants JJ. Is not as talented a QB prospects as may. The Drew Bledsoe comparison is hilarious. drew was a Statue. I am 78 years old Tom has Belichicides a. Sorry Tom . May is I a outstanding athlete.
If Maye is there at 3 draft him and sit him for a year. Maye definitely has the physical tools to be a stellar Qb but he needs to soaking up as must footbalk knowledge as possible in the film room and from the sidelines. No need to risk destroying his confidence without a top tier WR/TE and no LT.
Pats fans are getting eased into the trade...that #3 has been the vikings since the combine..the vikings will go all in on drake maye..it all comes down to who washington picks..if it's daniels you'll see the vikings on the clock at #3
It’s amazing that years of professional reporting got this man the idea that drafting a talented qb that you’d need to develop is a bad option because you haven’t developed a quarterback before… so we should just never go for a qb?
I love it when mom and dad are squabbling 😂. If the QB they want is there....take him! Otherwise trade back for an embarrassingly gigantic and historic bag.
JJ over Maye or Daniels any day of the week and twice on Sunday. Also, this narrative that JJ doesn't have the skill set or the build that May3 has is untrue. JJ has a better arsenal than Maye. The only thing Maye has over JJ is 1 inch.. Also, it's an insult to say Alex Smith is his high comp. And wanting a poor mans Josh Allen, who hasn't won anything, no mvp's not a trip to the SB, and u want a lesser version of him?
Jets really messed up twice in five years with two top quarterbacks, but they moved forward. So did the Bears with Trubinski and Fields. Lance with the Niners. Shit happens. We’ll see. Give them a chance to get their guys.
trading down would be the smart thing to do imo. joe alt is going to be a hof left tackle for many years if healthy. this is the biggest selling point to any qb. you could get anybody on the fa market. every year qbs are oversold for hype. every year. i bet 2-3 guys of the top 5 qbs will be available like zach wlson and mac jones. take the sure thing.
joe alt + 1st round picks + the field (next years draft, fa's next off season, late round pick this one) on qb possibilities vs. drake maye. taking drake maye is crazy pills imo. he could pan out and be awesome though.
@@fartmcfart420 In NE's offense Maye will BUST like a piñata. I don't think they can develop him either. AVP got FIRED because he couldn't develop Watson. What makes anyone think he can develop a nervous energy rookie with happy feet, inconsistent accuracy, and horrible elongated throwing mechanics?
@@DrigoArtsFX it still would be cool to have him on the team, but yeah i agree. new england qbs have underperformed for around 6 years. it can't be just the players. they all should have performed better.
@@Manolo-B i am convinced. my input has no impact though. if they draft maye i am not gonna stop being a fan. just think the better plan would be to draft alt.
I’m just here for Robert Kraft impersonations. 😂
Anybody notice Senator Phil has been a lot more blunt and partial with Ambassador Tom lately? 😂😂
Be boring otherwise
Went to a Super Bowl with Drew!
DRAKE MAYE. Don’t over think it . Drake Maye !!!
Or Daniels!
If he goes at 2 then what 😂
Then we cry !! 😞
eh.
Maye is a second rounder
Go With Daniels or Maye Lets get this rebuild up and running!!
Tom is in his punished arc. At one point he said maybe jokingly that our team was so bad we did not deserve a Quarterback. This team over the past few years has beaten him down so much that he wants us to take the least risky option (hes big trade down) in every situation, so he can keep his expectations lower and be less likely to be let down again.
I think we need to jumpstart the rebuild Trade down Aquire 3 first rounders or better! Rely on a Micheal Penix type player. reach in the first if you have too or trade down twice assuming we trade for 11, 23+ with Vikings to aquire more draft picks in the process. More future Round 1-2 talent to look forward too.
They will not get an offer of four 1st round picks or three 1st round picks plus a pro bowl level player. Just draft the QB of your choice. I think no team is desperate enough to mortgage their future for one of these QBs when either McCarthy will slide to #11 or Penix Jr. is more than good enough to achieve very positive results for the three teams drafting #11, #12, and #13.
Trade down for an extra 1st and Wr and take Penix is what i want to see
Love watching P. Perry and Ron Borges Jr. strange that the man (Right Hand Man) standing two inches from Mayo’s right hand wants a trade down to help the Pats spend nothing on the draft. Draft someone that can play, hoping for Maye.
Y’all don’t know sh8, they def trading down. I’d bet any amount of money.
Vikings have been preparing for maye this whole off season..it all comes down to who the commanders take..the vikings and pats have had this deal in place for a while...the pats could easily take 3 firsts from the vikings...then trade 11 and 23 to get to #5 and still land jj...it's a no Brainerd bur make no mistake,the patriots organization has slowly been preparing the fan base to make this move..it's happening
Makes total sense, draft a worse player because you don’t have the players. Problem with that theory, we will never be able to get better. None of the real Pats fans want that.
Go Marvin Harrison t
Give me Justin Jefferson and 2 first rounders over any of these QBs
In what world?
@@Phil_Williamson Because you stupid and want make that kinda trade. Don't mean I'm gone join you.
I've been a pats fan since 1995 and i will drop this team like a bad habit if they fucking DARE trade down!
Tom sells the farm at the last hour by comparing JJ McCarthy to Aaron Rodgers. 35:15
Phil and Tom need a divorce lol
Maye is about to become the next Zach Wilson 😂
Drake F'N Maye BA BA!
Tom is right, everybody is sleeping on JJ’s athleticism
It's the mentality to win for me
Tommy is sounding like the Boston radio guys. Hedging their position so they can complain later.
Yup. No matter what, they will bitch about it and forget the times they said they wanted that outcome
Trade with Vikings and take mcarthy with 11 and Brian Thomas jr at 23
JJ won't b there he goes at 5 trade with chargers in take Drake Maye at 3 simple!
Alright, gotta give Tom credit on that intro.
Pats going to suck no matter what. We mediocre... bottom dwellers. At least we have the memories. And we need some new voices...tired of hearing Curran.
I really have no idea how this dude got anywhere with such horrible takes.
Why does Tom act like we can't improve our offense with the rest of our draft picks..
Or like, build it up over the next couple of seasons
Tom is stuck on his crap narrative..
Because 99% of drafts have like a 20% hit rate
@tommasiero5234 yeah but he's talking like it's a 0% hit rate..
@@tommasiero5234same does for first rounds
💯 percent Drake may
Too much Maye hating.. he's gonna be the guy.. just take him
we have a top 10 defense minimum , our O line is shaping up , good running back group , you have 2 solid tight ends i think people think that we are in a worse position then we actually are ... draft drake maye and go get a X wr and we are in the playoofs with our division in the state its in
Yup they should entertain all scenarios and even package trades or picks and entertain other teams with attractive packages. Basically nothing to lose cause a 5 win team is an improvement
I can’t wait until this is done… this conversation was dead 3 weeks ago..
I really don't see what Phil sees in Maye. I've tried to join the bandwagon by watching as much tape on his games as I could find. The result of doing that has actually made me COMPLETELY OUT on him. He's a bust waiting to happen. His hero ball, inconsistent accuracy and nervous energy he plays with scares the hell out of me as a Pats fan. Taking him is a Maye-stake, one that they'll regret for the rest of the decade GUARANTEED.
Take the drake and let’s goooo
Tom is so negative….
Hope the Krafts stay out of the way
So you believe JJ McCarthy is a late 1st rounder but you argue the top ranked QB prospects will more than likely bust? Well shouldn't that be enough to convince you JJ is the pick?
This past season has made me hate tom Curran. All he does is carry the krafts water. He is such a phony.
Martin and Lewis right before our eyes. Say it ain't so. Please stop. Trade down with Minny and get 11 and 23. Then get WR Brian Thomas at 11 and Micheal Penix or Tyler Guyton at 23. If Guyton then trade up at 27th with AZ for QB Penix or Bo Nix. Don't draft JJ Mccarthy. Thats a mistake at 3. Problem solved. Getting Brandon Aiyuk would be very large. Do it.
I'd take JJ too. Every first-round QB in the history of draft has been a boom vs bust coin-flip. Nobody knows who's gonna hit or who's gonna crumble under the weight. If one guy has the brain, the feet, and the character, you take that guy and cross your fingers. I'm team JJ.
Phil . Tom wants JJ. Is not as talented a QB prospects as may. The Drew Bledsoe comparison is hilarious. drew was a Statue. I am 78 years old Tom has Belichicides a. Sorry Tom . May is I a outstanding athlete.
If Maye is there at 3 draft him and sit him for a year. Maye definitely has the physical tools to be a stellar Qb but he needs to soaking up as must footbalk knowledge as possible in the film room and from the sidelines. No need to risk destroying his confidence without a top tier WR/TE and no LT.
Pats fans are getting eased into the trade...that #3 has been the vikings since the combine..the vikings will go all in on drake maye..it all comes down to who washington picks..if it's daniels you'll see the vikings on the clock at #3
It’s amazing that years of professional reporting got this man the idea that drafting a talented qb that you’d need to develop is a bad option because you haven’t developed a quarterback before… so we should just never go for a qb?
Do we have the right coaches to develop Maye? Didn't go well with Mac, and Mayo is a defensive guy
I love it when mom and dad are squabbling 😂. If the QB they want is there....take him! Otherwise trade back for an embarrassingly gigantic and historic bag.
Don't settle
Drake Maye will put us in purgatory for 3 years til it’s time try the next QB…….
Nobody wants him on the team
The roster will not be that bad as last year pending all the injured players returning
Knocking winners is idiotic. Go #JJ #DAWG #Gritty
I would rather not take a safe pick, take maye
OMG Tom when will you understand that ALL TEAMS SUCK PICKING IN THE TOP 5 OR THEY WOULD NOT BE PICKING IN THE TOP 5!
Tom compare to drew is again him being an ass
JAYDEN IS THE MAN FOR 3 IF NOT MOVE DOWN
JJ over Maye or Daniels any day of the week and twice on Sunday. Also, this narrative that JJ doesn't have the skill set or the build that May3 has is untrue. JJ has a better arsenal than Maye. The only thing Maye has over JJ is 1 inch..
Also, it's an insult to say Alex Smith is his high comp. And wanting a poor mans Josh Allen, who hasn't won anything, no mvp's not a trip to the SB, and u want a lesser version of him?
1 inch of height or arm length doesn’t matter only time 1 inch extra only matters is below the belt
if drake maye had JJs team he would be the num,ber one pick this year
People sleeping on JJ’s athleticism big time.
Take Drake!!!
Take Drake @#3
GOOD now go get Daniels or Maye! Let’s get this rebuild up and running!
Seriously doubt theyre trading down
Someone let Curran know Maye is not a running back.
If they trade down going be piss
Jets really messed up twice in five years with two top quarterbacks, but they moved forward. So did the Bears with Trubinski and Fields. Lance with the Niners. Shit happens. We’ll see. Give them a chance to get their guys.
you relize the bears and jets destroy QBs and the same will happen with caleb williams bust incoming
trading down would be the smart thing to do imo. joe alt is going to be a hof left tackle for many years if healthy. this is the biggest selling point to any qb. you could get anybody on the fa market. every year qbs are oversold for hype. every year. i bet 2-3 guys of the top 5 qbs will be available like zach wlson and mac jones. take the sure thing.
joe alt + 1st round picks + the field (next years draft, fa's next off season, late round pick this one) on qb possibilities vs. drake maye. taking drake maye is crazy pills imo. he could pan out and be awesome though.
@@fartmcfart420 In NE's offense Maye will BUST like a piñata. I don't think they can develop him either. AVP got FIRED because he couldn't develop Watson. What makes anyone think he can develop a nervous energy rookie with happy feet, inconsistent accuracy, and horrible elongated throwing mechanics?
@@DrigoArtsFX it still would be cool to have him on the team, but yeah i agree. new england qbs have underperformed for around 6 years. it can't be just the players. they all should have performed better.
@@fartmcfart420ur not even convinced am that’s the point
@@Manolo-B i am convinced. my input has no impact though. if they draft maye i am not gonna stop being a fan. just think the better plan would be to draft alt.
Trade the pick for a hall!!
MHJ with the 3rd pick and trade up for Penix.
If we stay at 3 and pick MHJ, we wouldn't have capital to get Penix