Lol about the queen ! ahahah (I'm French personnaly) But I can figure out that it's just because people in the Netherlands are able to differenciate what could be called a British commonwealth accent (as taken globally) from the American accents but not really a British standard accent from a NZ or Australian accent ? And I guess that "Some Stuck Up Nerf Herder Some Stuck Up Nerf Herder" talked about the countries rather than the accents ?
yoyotop yoyotop I was in a call with some friends and they said I sounded either Australian or British and I had to explain that I’m actually from New Zealand. So I think it is just very similar if you don’t know where they are from.
I am a Korean and studied in NZ. one day one of my friend asked me if I ever had six. I thot it meant six pack abs and I said no. then I realised that it meant another thing and my answer was still no.
HOW TO SPEAK NZ: 1) Pronounce the 'ER' sounds at the end of words as 'AH'. Because we're lazy af. 2) Never pronounce the 'R', like... ever. 3) Add 'as' at the end of things as a SPOKEN exclamation point... haha. Eg: Fast as. Slow as. Cool as. Dope as. 5) Add 'aye' at the end of things to have someone agree or disagree with you. Eg: That's cool as, aye? This smells good as, aye? This song is pretty dope, aye? 6) Add 'PRETTY' to the beginning of things, also as a spoken exclamation mark, like 'AS'. Not sure why this is, but it's a thing. Eg: This is pretty cool. This pie is pretty nice. That house is pretty flash (flash means really fancy looking). 7) Use a lot of slang. EG 👇🏼👇🏼👇🏼 NZ1: Yeeyur. This pie is nice as. NZ2: Gizz a taste. *bites pie* Oh yeah, hard. My pie is pretty munted. NZ1: Unluggyyyyyy. NZ2: Swapsies bro? NZ1: Yeah, nah. Gap it, g. NZ2: Aw guuuuhmon. We have our own language but we promise it's English 😂😂😂.
That's the best explanation I've seen anywhere online, in regards to our Kiwi accent. My problem is I'm sharp on my R's, so I always get called out on it. I'm not from the deep South either 😆
This video was REALLY weird for me since I am from NZ the NZ girl sounded completely normal and the American sounded different lol I never knew how much of a NZ accent I have
Hahaha but it isnt an accent to you. We have a lot of accents in America as well. 50 states means 50 accents, at least. Everything the American girl said could be pronounced many different ways in America. Also, different states will have different accents depending on where in that one state they are from. On top of THAT, they will call things different names as well. Like in the midwest (which isnt even in the middle or west of the U.S.), they call it "pop", but in many other parts of U.S., they call ot "soda" -- and some parts of the south call it "coke" no matter what it is. Like, they call Sprite a "Coke". 50 states is basically the amount of countries in Europe, so it gets pretty varied. That's why you can pass for American so easily, like Christian Bale, but we can't pass for the U.K. or other areas that were occupied by them. I honestly find it humbling and fascinating
Our English accent isn’t lazy, it’s naturally merged with the Te Reo Māori language, especially with the vowels. In Māori the vowel sounds never change, our ‘i’s sound like ‘e’s and ‘a’ sounds like ‘ahh’. It’s typical with any language around the globe that’s what makes our accents so unique.
Like in German, "i" sounds like "e". and "a" like "ahh". So funny! When I went to vacation there I was able to pronounce the words quite fine :) Also I like the kiwi accent. It sounds really nice to me!
I'm French and I'm studying English and last year we were studying General American and Australian accents, Australian accent is already quite complicated but our phonetic teacher was like "Oh and you still haven't heard the New Zealand accent, even I am completely baffled by it"
lonelyjesse85 Australia and New Zealand are completely different! I’m from New Zealand and when I speak people will say “oh you from Australia?” Hahaha 🤦🏽♀️🤦🏽♀️
Czelia CA there’s no such thing as a British accent. Here’s some simple geography Britain: England, Scotland and Wales United Kingdom or Uk: England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland So there is no such thing as a British accent you uncultured swine 😂
@@hannahfran7832 Thank you, I now consider myself a little less «uncultured» as I just learn the meaning of «swine» and «stfu» thanks to you. I meant nothing disrespectful towards anyone in the UK. I also consider my accent from France a little snob compare to all the others in the world. You're right though, there's more than 1 accent just as there's more than 1 in french and there's more than 1 in the US too.. So I wonder, would you say Rosie and Andrea are uncultured too for naming this video «American accent vs new zealand accent» ??
A British accent? So which one? English,Scottish,Irish or Welsh? And from what region? As for a snob sound, i have no idea what your talking about there!
I’m a Kiwi who has been living in Melbourne for over a decade now. I was not able to hear the NZ accent until I moved overseas. I would say that the key to the NZ accent is to mostly skip the vowels unless the vowel is the first letter. When the word has 2 or more syllables and then you just skip the final syllable and any word ending in er has an ah sound. So if you say fish, it becomes fsh. Every becomes evry, Chips becomes chps, Caramel becomes Caraml, Milk becomes Mlk, scientifically becomes scientificlly, etc. Obviously there are exceptions but this is how I explain the Kiwi accent to people who are not familiar with the it and they tell me, it makes sense when explained this way.
Being in NZ for 7 years as a non-english speaker, I would say to me "i" is pronounced "e" and "e" is pronounced "ei". Like what u said milk is melk, chips is cheps etc, Wed in Weindsday, Pen in Pin check is Chick!!
H Narouei I have heard people say that and I can see how that argument can be made but I think a better description is the vowels are so short that they are basically skipped a lot of the time and if they are pronounced then the shortened vowels that NZ English has end up with a different sound than what it has with other English speaking nations. I get what you are saying though.
Funny, when I was in NZ I also couldn't stop laughing about "deck". I was on the ferry and they told us to "reamain seated on deck" while the vehicles would disembark.
I'm a Filipino living in NZ and I really love NZ accent. At first, its a bit tough to learn but its really amazing especially when you sounded one. Very unique!
I'm brazilian and I can say that the NZ accent is really alike with the brits accents. By the way, I like a lot to find out all curiosities over the accents spread in the world
great video Rosie!! I'm actually already subscribed to Andrea's channel and I love her content as well!! Thank you for that great video that I particularly enjoy as a linguistic nerd!!
New Zealanders when we speak barely open our mouths, which also contributes to us talking really fast. Maybe it’s because our minds run a million miles a second and we have to say everything as it comes, at least for me it’s a real challenge to talk slowly 😂
@@michaelbankart916 This is quite embarassing as I chose New Zealand to learn English for my studies next year (and to travel, your country is so attractive to be honnest :)! To speak fast is the best way to misunderstanding you as a foreigner ahaha
This is SO spot on, definitely me. I live in the USA now and still have no luck slowing down my rate of speech. I get "sorry, can you repeat that?" My American husband has to interpret for me alot lol
Vidéo super intéressante ! En tant que francophone parlant anglais il est parfois difficile de distinguer les accents alors merci de partager ce genre de vidéos c’est vraiment intéressant
I'm a Kiwi and spent 10 years in Australia from when I was 21 and I thought Kiwi's sounded weird. Now I've been back home in NZ for a few years and Aussies sound weird! It's amazing how quickly we adapt to our surroundings and adopt the nuances
Yeah it's quite strange isn't it. As a Kiwi accented speaker I obviously can't here it. But when I hear other accents it sounds like the reverse is happening. So when an American says "Ten", I hear "Tin" even though I know what they're saying in the context
Ok I’m from the St Louis area also and I think she pronounces “envelope” and “route” the less common way. They’re both normal here but I was surprised she pronounces them that way. Caramel, pecan, and coupon have VERY debated pronunciations in the US.
Correct. I hope this doesn't sound rude because it's actually a compliment, but she speaks a very "posh" brand of English and that is why she pronounces certain words like that (everything but "lawyer"). I actually switch how I saw many of those words depending on the people I am around hah
Here in NY (at least), we pronounce the word “aunt” just like the kiwi girl did. It shocked me to have heard the American one pronounce that word as “ant”
Yes, I too am Midwestern and definitely never heard ONvelope in any part of St Louis or Chicago once. Have been to STL a million times. CAR-mel is very accurate. Rowwwwwte is how most Midwesterners say it in both states. ROOte, no. Some of her words are a bit southern style for being from STL. COOpon, yes, and peKAN, yes. Reply to the posh accent comment-Her accent isn’t posh at all. There is no such thing as a posh midwestern accent LOL. Try the old Chicago accent nobody has anymore if you want posh. ;)
The New Zealand accent was HEAVILY influenced by Scottish. It’s why the New Zealand “i” is generally pronounced as a soft “u”. The strain of the vowel has been largely removed in New Zealand but the pronunciation difference is still there.
Well I'm a New Zealander and there's no way I'd say that our accent is in any way influenced by Scottish. The Scottish accent sounds so completely foreign.
Thanks, ladies. That was fun. In NZ everyone seems to have an up inflection at the end of every sentence as if every sentence was a question. My mom calls then “up talkers”
Very fun video. Originally from California, military moved me around the US a lot. Loved the bit on car(a)mel. I use route and root depending on usage. Lawyer was the only word you said that I thought was the less typical way in the US. Loy yer is what I've heard most. Thanks ladies.
Kia ora from the Tron . so growing up kiwi . i know we have 2 main ways to say our vowels, AEIOU . 1st is Said , the other is sounded out almost . this make the E sound like a I and A can have a E sound to them the U can even sound like an A. . but for the most part it's a mix with the Maori vowels (* Arapū ) most of us learnt this song as a kid !!
@@Mat-t- don't worry, people from one part of the UK can struggle with accents from other areas. A couple of examples, the majority of my family are from Birmingham but I worked with two people from the Black Country (just north west of Birmingham) and when they spoke with each other the accent and dialect was so broad I didn't have a clue as to what they were saying. The same when I was working in Peterlee in the North East of England, I had adjusted to the North Yorkshire accent and the Newcastle accent, but there were a load of guys from small (former) mining towns in this business and they seemed to have a language that would barely pass for modern English. I still enjoy listening to different regional and international accents.
Rosie try saying "six hundred and sixty six" to Andrea. I am Australian and to me the NZ accent is all in the vowels of the words. To me, the NZ accent is a little like Kiwis swallow the vowel sound, and have a lot of "urk" sound in some of the vowels. Also both of you (Andrea and Rosie) have spent a lot of time in Europe and learning French has smoothed out both of your accents when you are talking standard English.
I’m a kiwi, and getting aussies to say “six hundred and sixty six” is hilarious. You guys say “sex hundred and sexty sex” to us 😂 But in return, aussies love hearing us say “deck” soooo... 😂
It’s funny because most of these words Americans are divided on the way they’re pronounced. I do however say envelope and pecan the way Andrea says it but have also heard other ways people pronounce it within North America. Great video! Love from USA~
I've always seen the New Zealand vowels as advancing one vowel further. short a (ah) becomes short e (eh): can=ken short e (eh) becomes short i (ih): pen=pin / left=lift Then things fall apart after that and I'm not sure how it works...
I'm from Minnesota and I say both pronunciations for these words because it depends on how I feel that day. Good luck anyone trying to learn this language.
I think us kiwis tend to almost swallow/try not to open our mouths for a lot of sounds eg New Zilind, Mwilk. The vowels could have something to do with the influence of Māori in NZ English eg Ah eh eee o euu instead of Aye E I Oh You. I'm currently doing an English language teaching course and my lecturer thinks that due to a lot of people immigrating from the west country and other parts of the UK that have strong accents is why American accents tend to pronounce Rs really strongly whereas in NZ we had a bit more of a mix. I notice it a lot now because my dad is from Bristol and my Mum is from the Waikato/Taranaki and sometimes the accent pops up on really random words. I've lived in Auckland my entire life and when I'm travelling I have aussies come up to me thinking I'm from Melbourne 😂 I'm sure I have some notes on the linguistics of the NZ accent from a course I did in my degree a few years back. I'll see if I can find them.
Interesting video ! As a French person, here are 2 things essentiallly I noticed that surprised me a litlle bit: 1/ the American way to pronounce some words like "pecan" or "enveloppe" is finally quite similar as the French way. And much closer than the NZ way. 2/ The NZ pronounciation of short words with an "e" in the middle like "pen" "deck", etc I had never heard before. But yes, that's quite logical actually. Tks to u both !
She’s from St Louis. It was part of the Louisiana purchase and the city is named for your King Louis. The French played a major role in colonial America. Many cities and states have French names. Many words have been incorporated into American English. As a result she probably does have some leftover French pronunciations.
Great video! FYI. The word water can be used to identify a very specific regional American accent. If you here someone say "wooder", they likely grew up in the Philadelphia, tri-state (Southeastern PA, South Jersey(aka Southern New Jersey) , Northern Delaware).
Also I get given hard times as I say aluminum and peh-can but I did live in Seattle for a while when I was early teens so... But this is one of the better accent videos I've seen. Well done🙌🙌
I’m also from New Zealand (with quite a thick accent too..) and was constantly complimented on my English accent in the US. It couldn’t be any further from an English accent haha. People everyone really struggle to understand it.
It's different if your a Maori Samoan or Tongan etc ... we say things different too like caramel ( caramo ) milk ( miwk ) theatre ( movies ) water ( wardah ) cheers ( churr ) lol 😂
Pretty much every word you have covered in this video is pronounced multiple ways in the United States. I know people who pronounce each of these words exactly the way the New Zealander is pronouncing them. I was particularly troubled by the word “caramel,“ which is pronounced as the New Zealand girl sad in most of the United States. Go look up the old commercials for the chocolate and caramel candy called Rolo. The theme song says “You Roll a Rolo to your pal, it’s chocolate covered caramel,” and they pronounce it exactly the way the New Zealand girl said it.
I lived in NZ for more than a year. What I noticed is that there are different accents within New Zealand. A kiwi from Auckland would speak totally different compared to one from, say, Blenheim. But the most interesting thing is their "e". It turns into an "ee". "Guest" becomes "gueest", bed "beed", 'pen' "peen" and so on. "Deck" is the funniest example, but even the numbers are confusing at first. 7 is "seeven" and 6,10 sounds like 16. English is not fonetically consistent so you can have as many accents as you want.
There is a linguist history behind the languages. American English evolved from Irish, British, Scottish, Jewish, Italian and English people traveling together in boats. New York accents are generally more Italian and Jewish based whilst most of america is more Irish orientated. The exaggerated "R" and dropping of the "T" is common in Irish accent. New Zealand English is heavily influenced by English, Scottish and Maori vowels. Alot of the New Zealand accent can be linked back to Scottish roots. The English "I" originated from the Scottish "I". The lost of ability to pronounce final consonants can also be originated from Maori. Where "AO" replaces "AL" and "EO" replaces "IL" In words like milk. We don't realize it but we are constantly influenced by people around us. Language adopt sounds from people around them naturally without even trying.
In Norway, where I am from, there is a new dialect and/or accent wherever you go. On the other side of each mountaintop and over every fjord. We are many in our family, and none of us speak a 100% the same dialect. Yeah, it's super wierd and super interesting how language works.
When I was growing up there was a couple of books available: "New Zild and How She is Spoke" and "How To Speak Strine" Wish I could get hold of copies now. By the way, I'm an ex-pat Kiwi.
I'm from Utah originally but I pronounce it like "loy-yer", with "loy" rhyming with toy and "yer" rhyming with purr . . . I think even in the Midwest "standard" US accent this word can vary quite a lot.
I had a professor from North Carolina who pronounced it like that..I think it must be a southern thing because I’ve also heard Texans pronounce it that way too
@@Muton230 I'm fron the Philippines and we speak at like "loyer cause in our country, English is very big deal. But I honestly love how "er" turns to "ah" since I am very slang in "r". I think it's like my escape route.
Also the reason we pronounce a lot of our vowels differently in NZ is because of our Te reo influence. I quite often pronounce my vowels in Te Reo Maori. A=Ar, E=eh, I=ee, O=or, U=oo.
Basically if there’s a T at the end of a word, we rarely say it and instead just abruptly end the word. All our vowels are kinda the opposites to Australians accents. And when we go over seas, people think we’re drunk because we slur our words and barely open our mouth to speak. We can answer just about anything with an inaudible sound and other kiwis understand, EG ‘nnNn” roughly translates to “I dunno” 😂 Also the word “aye” can mean just about anything depending on how you say it. That’s about it lol.
there are different regions in the U.S as well that have different dialects, so depending on where you're from-- south, north, west, or midwest-- everyone sounds slightly different. But some places just have a typical, standard American accent.
Fun fun!!! thank you for the video, 2 years later giving me smiles and entertainment!! Am an American from New York, amusingly some stuff is different, some stuff is the same! it's funny how regional american accents can be really different too lol. 1. I would say Aunt kiwi style, but with more of a drawl, Aw-nt. My Auntie says Ant like the American style :3. 2. A softer version of the kiwi version, like en (end)-vel- low-pe, but no hard consonants. (Altho a lot of people say the proper way.) 3. I am one of those people that say rowte 4. I say this the same as American-st.louis style 5. Same as St. Louis style :D (caught) 6. Same as St. Louis Style (salmon) 7. I say ka-rah-mel, the way Andrea says the friend says it I think both pronouncians are understood here. 8. I say this american style 9. I am one of those people who say pee- can the second way. 10. I say again the american style 11. I say lawyer the kiwi style, but there's no emphasis or hard consonants, it's a drawl. Like Loy-er with a drawl on the -oy and emphasis on the er. So the way Andrea repeated the kiwi style is how i say it XD 12. water I say american style. 13. naturally american style 14. aluminum american style 15 milk american style 16. american style cheers I say all the sentences American style :D Listening to you two is a lot of fun, thank you!
Great fun! As a Midwest girl, yeah, we have a 'flat' accent. I casually study accents, but I haven't found the key to Kiwi yet, much as I love hearing it. Someone shared a "How to DAD" video on Facebook & some "expert" said DAD's not a real Kiwi because he said "fish & chips" not "fush & chups." He knows because he dated a NZ girl & her whole family said it that way!
I don't know if that's even the "NZ way" because I have never heard anyone in the U.S. say "law-yer"--at least not on the West Coast. Maybe that's a Midwest/Southern thing. I've only ever heard "loy-er."
I’m from New Zealand and it is honestly soo annoying cause I get called Australian all the time.
So, is that annoying to be from New Zealand ? :)
Lol about the queen ! ahahah
(I'm French personnaly) But I can figure out that it's just because people in the Netherlands are able to differenciate what could be called a British commonwealth accent (as taken globally) from the American accents but not really a British standard accent from a NZ or Australian accent ?
And I guess that "Some Stuck Up Nerf Herder Some Stuck Up Nerf Herder" talked about the countries rather than the accents ?
yoyotop yoyotop I was in a call with some friends and they said I sounded either Australian or British and I had to explain that I’m actually from New Zealand. So I think it is just very similar if you don’t know where they are from.
Where were these friends from ?
Some Stuck Up Nerf Herder FEELS!!!
I am a Korean and studied in NZ. one day one of my friend asked me if I ever had six. I thot it meant six pack abs and I said no. then I realised that it meant another thing and my answer was still no.
sorry i laughed but yeah i get it😅
Sksksksksksksksk LMAO
Dont say you are virgin... you are from Korea so...
Lmaoooo
@@bryanmontillafolrez2425 so?
HOW TO SPEAK NZ:
1) Pronounce the 'ER' sounds at the end of words as 'AH'. Because we're lazy af.
2) Never pronounce the 'R', like... ever.
3) Add 'as' at the end of things as a SPOKEN exclamation point... haha.
Eg: Fast as. Slow as. Cool as. Dope as.
5) Add 'aye' at the end of things to have someone agree or disagree with you.
Eg: That's cool as, aye? This smells good as, aye? This song is pretty dope, aye?
6) Add 'PRETTY' to the beginning of things, also as a spoken exclamation mark, like 'AS'. Not sure why this is, but it's a thing.
Eg: This is pretty cool. This pie is pretty nice. That house is pretty flash (flash means really fancy looking).
7) Use a lot of slang.
EG 👇🏼👇🏼👇🏼
NZ1: Yeeyur. This pie is nice as.
NZ2: Gizz a taste. *bites pie* Oh yeah, hard. My pie is pretty munted.
NZ1: Unluggyyyyyy.
NZ2: Swapsies bro?
NZ1: Yeah, nah. Gap it, g.
NZ2: Aw guuuuhmon.
We have our own language but we promise it's English 😂😂😂.
That's the best explanation I've seen anywhere online, in regards to our Kiwi accent. My problem is I'm sharp on my R's, so I always get called out on it. I'm not from the deep South either 😆
The U.S puts “pretty” before words like that as well
First, great explanation.
Secondly, ya forgot about scrapping the 'th' sounds bro.
Thanks a lot. Now I understand why my friend in NZ always puts "aye" at the end of the sentence
Nz accent is almost the same to british accent but the british accent is more precise amd accurate
This video was REALLY weird for me since I am from NZ the NZ girl sounded completely normal and the American sounded different lol I never knew how much of a NZ accent I have
Tbh I thought they both sounded normal and I am American lol
Azka Ghaznavi same in kiwi as well
Hahaha but it isnt an accent to you. We have a lot of accents in America as well. 50 states means 50 accents, at least. Everything the American girl said could be pronounced many different ways in America. Also, different states will have different accents depending on where in that one state they are from. On top of THAT, they will call things different names as well. Like in the midwest (which isnt even in the middle or west of the U.S.), they call it "pop", but in many other parts of U.S., they call ot "soda" -- and some parts of the south call it "coke" no matter what it is. Like, they call Sprite a "Coke".
50 states is basically the amount of countries in Europe, so it gets pretty varied. That's why you can pass for American so easily, like Christian Bale, but we can't pass for the U.K. or other areas that were occupied by them.
I honestly find it humbling and fascinating
@@OreoVII WOW i actually learnt something useful today!!!thx bro lol in NZ we only have 3 islands lol XD
Azka Ghaznavi oh yes same
I lost it when she said Deck... 😂😂
*"OI ROB! YA LIKE MAH DECK!?"*
Lynette O'Keefe it is for some people, most people it is right between carnt and ...you know
The E sound is a bit different for different people. It goes from an E to an I kind of
Quite interesting learning the different accents and pronunciations from every English Speaking Country.
should've been 'I need to polish my deck'! Damn, opportunity wasted!
Our English accent isn’t lazy, it’s naturally merged with the Te Reo Māori language, especially with the vowels. In Māori the vowel sounds never change, our ‘i’s sound like ‘e’s and ‘a’ sounds like ‘ahh’. It’s typical with any language around the globe that’s what makes our accents so unique.
hey i never really thought about that and makes heaps of sense.
I’m from New Zealand and what you’ve said I completely agree with.
Like in German, "i" sounds like "e". and "a" like "ahh". So funny! When I went to vacation there I was able to pronounce the words quite fine :) Also I like the kiwi accent. It sounds really nice to me!
yeah and also non-rhotic english cuz of the uk's influence
I'm French and I'm studying English and last year we were studying General American and Australian accents, Australian accent is already quite complicated but our phonetic teacher was like "Oh and you still haven't heard the New Zealand accent, even I am completely baffled by it"
lonelyjesse85 Australia and New Zealand are completely different! I’m from New Zealand and when I speak people will say “oh you from Australia?” Hahaha 🤦🏽♀️🤦🏽♀️
@@ptuaakatea I know that they are completely different I was just comparing their accents because they're both complicated to study for foreigners.
Paige Tua-Akatea sane thing happens when Canadians travel, they get mistaken for Americans
I can't understand anything when i hear Australian accent too
lonelyjesse85 we speak too fast and too much slang.
As a french, I found kiwi accent more easy for me to pronounce and also so more beautiful ! like a british accent but without the snob sound :p
That´s exactly what I thought! I´m argentinian, btw, I love NZ accent better than snobish british haha
Czelia CA yay, merci. I live in New Zealand so that is good to hear about our accent.
Czelia CA there’s no such thing as a British accent. Here’s some simple geography
Britain: England, Scotland and Wales
United Kingdom or Uk: England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland
So there is no such thing as a British accent you uncultured swine 😂
@@hannahfran7832 Thank you, I now consider myself a little less «uncultured» as I just learn the meaning of «swine» and «stfu» thanks to you.
I meant nothing disrespectful towards anyone in the UK. I also consider my accent from France a little snob compare to all the others in the world.
You're right though, there's more than 1 accent just as there's more than 1 in french and there's more than 1 in the US too.. So I wonder, would you say Rosie and Andrea are uncultured too for naming this video «American accent vs new zealand accent» ??
A British accent? So which one? English,Scottish,Irish or Welsh? And from what region? As for a snob sound, i have no idea what your talking about there!
I’m a Kiwi who has been living in Melbourne for over a decade now. I was not able to hear the NZ accent until I moved overseas. I would say that the key to the NZ accent is to mostly skip the vowels unless the vowel is the first letter. When the word has 2 or more syllables and then you just skip the final syllable and any word ending in er has an ah sound. So if you say fish, it becomes fsh. Every becomes evry, Chips becomes chps, Caramel becomes Caraml, Milk becomes Mlk, scientifically becomes scientificlly, etc. Obviously there are exceptions but this is how I explain the Kiwi accent to people who are not familiar with the it and they tell me, it makes sense when explained this way.
This is so spot on 😂
Being in NZ for 7 years as a non-english speaker, I would say to me "i" is pronounced "e" and "e" is pronounced "ei". Like what u said milk is melk, chips is cheps etc, Wed in Weindsday, Pen in Pin check is Chick!!
H Narouei I have heard people say that and I can see how that argument can be made but I think a better description is the vowels are so short that they are basically skipped a lot of the time and if they are pronounced then the shortened vowels that NZ English has end up with a different sound than what it has with other English speaking nations. I get what you are saying though.
Kiwi living abroad I am shook by how spot on this is
Same in but in wa I have a thick as accent
Funny, when I was in NZ I also couldn't stop laughing about "deck". I was on the ferry and they told us to "reamain seated on deck" while the vehicles would disembark.
I'm a Filipino living in NZ and I really love NZ accent. At first, its a bit tough to learn but its really amazing especially when you sounded one. Very unique!
Who
@@justlookingaround3169 “who asked” -very predictable dry joke.
@@Respirate no bro my RUclips was glitching so my reply “who” ended up in this reply section for no reason. I was replying to another comment
if you're english accent isn't a native one it's impossible to learn any native accent, so it's more than a bit tough to learn, it's impossible
So cool to see that people do like our NZ accents.
Yeah bro
Fist time to hear New Zealand accent, it sounds so sweet to my ear!! 😍
When my accent is a mix of british,new zealand ,american and my mother tongue ..its really messy
@@tkfxo Oh your army!😂
same here :D
Thanks Rosie for giving us the chance to meet with Andrea. I’ve subscribed to her channel. You both are such great and talented ladies 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
She mimicked the New Zealand "milk" perfectly haha
I think she has a new zealand accent
I'm brazilian and I can say that the NZ accent is really alike with the brits accents. By the way, I like a lot to find out all curiosities over the accents spread in the world
Hello fellow kiwis that randomly search up new Zealand because no one ever talks about us
Lol
why are people from nz called kiwis?
@@rainyara The Kiwi is our National bird. Google it.
@@rainyara because its our natinil bird
I WANT TO MOVE THERE IM OBSSESED WITH YOUR COUNTRY
Hey fellow Kiwi.. Hows your adventure on finding New Zealand content?
great video Rosie!! I'm actually already subscribed to Andrea's channel and I love her content as well!! Thank you for that great video that I particularly enjoy as a linguistic nerd!!
Love seeing you two in the same video! This was fun :)
New Zealanders when we speak barely open our mouths, which also contributes to us talking really fast. Maybe it’s because our minds run a million miles a second and we have to say everything as it comes, at least for me it’s a real challenge to talk slowly 😂
ME TOO! lol
SAME I speak faster than everyone
Same for me lol
@@michaelbankart916
This is quite embarassing as I chose New Zealand to learn English for my studies next year (and to travel, your country is so attractive to be honnest :)! To speak fast is the best way to misunderstanding you as a foreigner ahaha
This is SO spot on, definitely me. I live in the USA now and still have no luck slowing down my rate of speech. I get "sorry, can you repeat that?" My American husband has to interpret for me alot lol
WASSUP NEW ZEALAND AYYYYY
*AYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY CUZ! WASSUP BRO*
Hello there! 😌😌
Tena koe
Thes the one ayyy
how do y’all even live there.. y’all were just.. born?? On? A island?
Vidéo super intéressante ! En tant que francophone parlant anglais il est parfois difficile de distinguer les accents alors merci de partager ce genre de vidéos c’est vraiment intéressant
Thank you for this useful video. It was so fun ! Merci beaucoup j'aime ce genre de vidéo. 💜
I'm a Kiwi and spent 10 years in Australia from when I was 21 and I thought Kiwi's sounded weird. Now I've been back home in NZ for a few years and Aussies sound weird! It's amazing how quickly we adapt to our surroundings and adopt the nuances
Fun video! I’m actually from the Midwest too but I’ve always heard and said lawyer like Rosie does (the first part of the word)!
Northwesterner here and same. I've heard people say it like lah-yer, but i don't know where... it think it's a Southern thing, or maybe Texas...
I’m from Nebraska, and I only hear people around here say it like Rosie does. Odd!
I agree. I'm from the west coast, but I don't know anyone who says lawyer as her American guest did.
Midatlantic, and I work in the courts and DEFINITELY everyone says lawyer like Rosie does. Also that is how I say caramel.
Thank you for this wonderful video. I enjoyed it very much and hope to see a lot more from you guys!
Yay
Enfin une vidéo avec vous deux !!!
Wow the "e" -> "i" is so impressive! I didn't know that tidbit about nz accent 😍
Yeah it's quite strange isn't it. As a Kiwi accented speaker I obviously can't here it. But when I hear other accents it sounds like the reverse is happening. So when an American says "Ten", I hear "Tin" even though I know what they're saying in the context
e i e i o
Ok I’m from the St Louis area also and I think she pronounces “envelope” and “route” the less common way. They’re both normal here but I was surprised she pronounces them that way. Caramel, pecan, and coupon have VERY debated pronunciations in the US.
Correct. I hope this doesn't sound rude because it's actually a compliment, but she speaks a very "posh" brand of English and that is why she pronounces certain words like that (everything but "lawyer"). I actually switch how I saw many of those words depending on the people I am around hah
Here in NY (at least), we pronounce the word “aunt” just like the kiwi girl did. It shocked me to have heard the American one pronounce that word as “ant”
Larry Ramos for me aunt your way when referencing the word but ant whenever you say "Aunt may"
For me I dont pronounce pecan as Pick-ahn or Peecan but as pee:kahn
Yes, I too am Midwestern and definitely never heard ONvelope in any part of St Louis or Chicago once. Have been to STL a million times. CAR-mel is very accurate. Rowwwwwte is how most Midwesterners say it in both states. ROOte, no. Some of her words are a bit southern style for being from STL. COOpon, yes, and peKAN, yes. Reply to the posh accent comment-Her accent isn’t posh at all. There is no such thing as a posh midwestern accent LOL. Try the old Chicago accent nobody has anymore if you want posh. ;)
Super vidéo avec 2 youtubeuses que j'aime vraiment beaucoup. Un vrai plaisir à regarder.
Wow, I just love your creative program!! Cool and full of fan. Thank you.
The New Zealand accent was HEAVILY influenced by Scottish. It’s why the New Zealand “i” is generally pronounced as a soft “u”. The strain of the vowel has been largely removed in New Zealand but the pronunciation difference is still there.
Ben Fluksa What do you find so hard to understand about that?
Well I'm a New Zealander and there's no way I'd say that our accent is in any way influenced by Scottish. The Scottish accent sounds so completely foreign.
I studied English in New Zealand. I love kiwis.
Thanks, ladies. That was fun. In NZ everyone seems to have an up inflection at the end of every sentence as if every sentence was a question. My mom calls then “up talkers”
Yaaay both of my favorites in one video! C'est perfecte!
C'est parfait!
The only time kiwis pronounce the t in water or little is when they're being filmed🤣
Or we have to present our speech for the mandatory speech competition in front of the school
Yeah my bro
I usually just say Wa’er
My two favorite France expats in one video? Amazing 😂
I grew up in Seattle and have lived here most of my life and apparently we pronounce a lot of words the Kiwi way.
Very fun video. Originally from California, military moved me around the US a lot. Loved the bit on car(a)mel. I use route and root depending on usage. Lawyer was the only word you said that I thought was the less typical way in the US. Loy yer is what I've heard most. Thanks ladies.
Kia ora from the Tron . so growing up kiwi . i know we have 2 main ways to say our vowels, AEIOU . 1st is Said , the other is sounded out almost . this make the E sound like a I and A can have a E sound to them the U can even sound like an A. . but for the most part it's a mix with the Maori vowels (* Arapū ) most of us learnt this song as a kid !!
6:46 i almost spit my coffee.. thats hilarious
my wife and kids are NZers keep up the good work its really awesome listening to u guys comparing slangs
When you mentioned the Australian pronunciation of the double o sound, it so reminded me of my grandad with his Liverpool accent.
@@Mat-t- don't worry, people from one part of the UK can struggle with accents from other areas.
A couple of examples, the majority of my family are from Birmingham but I worked with two people from the Black Country (just north west of Birmingham) and when they spoke with each other the accent and dialect was so broad I didn't have a clue as to what they were saying.
The same when I was working in Peterlee in the North East of England, I had adjusted to the North Yorkshire accent and the Newcastle accent, but there were a load of guys from small (former) mining towns in this business and they seemed to have a language that would barely pass for modern English.
I still enjoy listening to different regional and international accents.
Came here to check out after people talking about how cute Jennie kiwi accent
same here lol
I’ve fallen in love with the Zealander accent 😭❤️😍😍😂
Ah yes, us Kiwis/New Zealanders have a nice accent i must say.
O aye my bro.
Love this one! I've got a cheat sheet of kiwi words. Need one for USA, UK & KIWI. Too funny!
Great vidéo ! I’m french and I say water like Andrea, it’s more easy for me.
Rosie try saying "six hundred and sixty six" to Andrea. I am Australian and to me the NZ accent is all in the vowels of the words. To me, the NZ accent is a little like Kiwis swallow the vowel sound, and have a lot of "urk" sound in some of the vowels. Also both of you (Andrea and Rosie) have spent a lot of time in Europe and learning French has smoothed out both of your accents when you are talking standard English.
I’m a kiwi, and getting aussies to say “six hundred and sixty six” is hilarious. You guys say “sex hundred and sexty sex” to us 😂
But in return, aussies love hearing us say “deck” soooo... 😂
Kiwi accents are so cute :')
Chur bro
diego yeah nah cheers mate
Yeah nah cheers mate
Chur
Nah bro. Check out the Japanese accents aye my bro. Chur 🤙
So interesting listening to these different pronunciations.
It’s funny because most of these words Americans are divided on the way they’re pronounced. I do however say envelope and pecan the way Andrea says it but have also heard other ways people pronounce it within North America. Great video! Love from USA~
I've always seen the New Zealand vowels as advancing one vowel further.
short a (ah) becomes short e (eh): can=ken
short e (eh) becomes short i (ih): pen=pin / left=lift
Then things fall apart after that and I'm not sure how it works...
you just gotta speak slower
The way that she says lawyer is defiantly a mid west thing, I’m from north east and we pronounce it more similar to the new Zealand pronunciation
what a beautiful video, I loved you girls, I'm from Argentina :) I hope u are fantastic !
I'm from Minnesota and I say both pronunciations for these words because it depends on how I feel that day. Good luck anyone trying to learn this language.
Dans la francophonie il y a énormément d'accents aussi
Y ¡también en la Hispanidad!
@@pierreabbat6157 Parle en français
@@jona4385 Toi parles sa langue xD
@@jona4385 Ironique venant d'une personne dont le pseudo est écrit en katakana...
Im Deitschen ah. :P
"wee are going to compeear our ehccents" lol i just love kiwi accent so much
You guys did great job
Awesome, Ms Rosie!
I've been in nz for only a few months, and that "pen" and "bed" confuses me all the time 😔
I like American English but I love
New Zealand.
We actually do talk fast compared to other accents. Lol at caramel haha so true. Thank you for another awesome video 🙌🌴
J'aime beaucoup tes vidéos j'ai beaucoup appris avec toi continue ps:je partagerai ta chaîne
I think us kiwis tend to almost swallow/try not to open our mouths for a lot of sounds eg New Zilind, Mwilk. The vowels could have something to do with the influence of Māori in NZ English eg Ah eh eee o euu instead of Aye E I Oh You. I'm currently doing an English language teaching course and my lecturer thinks that due to a lot of people immigrating from the west country and other parts of the UK that have strong accents is why American accents tend to pronounce Rs really strongly whereas in NZ we had a bit more of a mix. I notice it a lot now because my dad is from Bristol and my Mum is from the Waikato/Taranaki and sometimes the accent pops up on really random words. I've lived in Auckland my entire life and when I'm travelling I have aussies come up to me thinking I'm from Melbourne 😂 I'm sure I have some notes on the linguistics of the NZ accent from a course I did in my degree a few years back. I'll see if I can find them.
did you find it?
Have you found your notes yet?
Interesting video ! As a French person, here are 2 things essentiallly I noticed that surprised me a litlle bit:
1/ the American way to pronounce some words like "pecan" or "enveloppe" is finally quite similar as the French way. And much closer than the NZ way.
2/ The NZ pronounciation of short words with an "e" in the middle like "pen" "deck", etc I had never heard before. But yes, that's quite logical actually.
Tks to u both !
oui mais du coup deck ressemble à dick...
Ca dépend, t'as déjà essayé d'écrire un truc avec ta bite ?
oui en urinant dans la neige en hiver :-)
Je viens de me rendre compte que ce que j'ai dit n'avait aucun sens.
Le problème n'est pas "pen" et "dick" !
Enfin bref ^^
She’s from St Louis. It was part of the Louisiana purchase and the city is named for your King Louis. The French played a major role in colonial America. Many cities and states have French names. Many words have been incorporated into American English. As a result she probably does have some leftover French pronunciations.
Great video! FYI. The word water can be used to identify a very specific regional American accent. If you here someone say "wooder", they likely grew up in the Philadelphia, tri-state (Southeastern PA, South Jersey(aka Southern New Jersey) , Northern Delaware).
Also I get given hard times as I say aluminum and peh-can but I did live in Seattle for a while when I was early teens so... But this is one of the better accent videos I've seen. Well done🙌🙌
2:50 "Semen" 😂 solo hispanohablantes entenderán.
Jajajaja
😂😂😂
eu confesso que dei uma leve risada quando ela disse isso
😂😂😂😂😂
Jajajajajajajaja
I'm a Korean, and for me, the accent of 'water' in american sounds like the pronunciation 't' is on the point between 'warer' and 'wader' haha
Hey "dude" can u get me a glass of "wa er"
I’m also from New Zealand (with quite a thick accent too..) and was constantly complimented on my English accent in the US. It couldn’t be any further from an English accent haha. People everyone really struggle to understand it.
You guys are so adorable
It's different if your a Maori Samoan or Tongan etc ... we say things different too like caramel ( caramo ) milk ( miwk ) theatre ( movies ) water ( wardah ) cheers ( churr ) lol 😂
Omg that's so true xD
🤣 wardah and Miwk were the highlights. I asked my Aussie aunt for some miwk, took her ages to figure out what I was trying to say.
Churr bro
W A R
D A H
Pretty much every word you have covered in this video is pronounced multiple ways in the United States. I know people who pronounce each of these words exactly the way the New Zealander is pronouncing them. I was particularly troubled by the word “caramel,“ which is pronounced as the New Zealand girl sad in most of the United States. Go look up the old commercials for the chocolate and caramel candy called Rolo. The theme song says “You Roll a Rolo to your pal, it’s chocolate covered caramel,” and they pronounce it exactly the way the New Zealand girl said it.
Love how New Zealand says “yes” lol so cute
I lived in NZ for more than a year. What I noticed is that there are different accents within New Zealand. A kiwi from Auckland would speak totally different compared to one from, say, Blenheim. But the most interesting thing is their "e". It turns into an "ee". "Guest" becomes "gueest", bed "beed", 'pen' "peen" and so on. "Deck" is the funniest example, but even the numbers are confusing at first. 7 is "seeven" and 6,10 sounds like 16. English is not fonetically consistent so you can have as many accents as you want.
Who in the mid west says ONvelope? I almost never hear it pronounced that way...
LA
There is a linguist history behind the languages. American English evolved from Irish, British, Scottish, Jewish, Italian and English people traveling together in boats. New York accents are generally more Italian and Jewish based whilst most of america is more Irish orientated. The exaggerated "R" and dropping of the "T" is common in Irish accent.
New Zealand English is heavily influenced by English, Scottish and Maori vowels. Alot of the New Zealand accent can be linked back to Scottish roots. The English "I" originated from the Scottish "I". The lost of ability to pronounce final consonants can also be originated from Maori. Where "AO" replaces "AL" and "EO" replaces "IL" In words like milk.
We don't realize it but we are constantly influenced by people around us. Language adopt sounds from people around them naturally without even trying.
In Norway, where I am from, there is a new dialect and/or accent wherever you go. On the other side of each mountaintop and over every fjord. We are many in our family, and none of us speak a 100% the same dialect. Yeah, it's super wierd and super interesting how language works.
yes Americans seem to drop the T big time. I find that interesting! haha, even the word interesting is said without much of the T sound in the US.
When I was growing up there was a couple of books available:
"New Zild and How She is Spoke"
and
"How To Speak Strine"
Wish I could get hold of copies now. By the way, I'm an ex-pat Kiwi.
I live in NZ. My grandmum spent her early years in buffalo usa. She always pronounce caramel like Andrea.
Never heard anyone pronounce it law-yer before, I live in the US
I'm from Utah originally but I pronounce it like "loy-yer", with "loy" rhyming with toy and "yer" rhyming with purr . . . I think even in the Midwest "standard" US accent this word can vary quite a lot.
I had a professor from North Carolina who pronounced it like that..I think it must be a southern thing because I’ve also heard Texans pronounce it that way too
@@Muton230 I'm fron the Philippines and we speak at like "loyer cause in our country, English is very big deal. But I honestly love how "er" turns to "ah" since I am very slang in "r". I think it's like my escape route.
Lmao yep dat. How we say it
My mom says it that way but I always say Loyer
I’m an Australian and everywhere I go when I talk ppl can tell I’m Australian straight away bc I don’t pronounce the ‘L’ in Australia
That’s always been a dead giveaway for me
Also the reason we pronounce a lot of our vowels differently in NZ is because of our Te reo influence. I quite often pronounce my vowels in Te Reo Maori. A=Ar, E=eh, I=ee, O=or, U=oo.
Here in NZ we also don't differentiate between words like air/ear, chair/cheer, spare/spear. We pronounce them all like the 2nd word :o
Basically if there’s a T at the end of a word, we rarely say it and instead just abruptly end the word. All our vowels are kinda the opposites to Australians accents. And when we go over seas, people think we’re drunk because we slur our words and barely open our mouth to speak.
We can answer just about anything with an inaudible sound and other kiwis understand, EG ‘nnNn” roughly translates to “I dunno” 😂
Also the word “aye” can mean just about anything depending on how you say it.
That’s about it lol.
I’m from USA and I’ve always heard “lawyer” pronounced as loyER. Not law er.
Loy yer.
Yeah it sounds like loy er but yeah us kiwis basically just skip the vowels
Law-er is a more Southern pronunciation. Outside the South it's always loyer.
@Retrograde Australia/ NZ/ UK...........aluminium
USA/Canada........aluminum
Fun video! I like it.
I think I have seen an outstanding Video.
Your voice is also very very sweet .Thanks a lot for creating such video.
My math teacher has a stromg New Zealand Accent
I'm questioning myself how I say things now lol
there are different regions in the U.S as well that have different dialects, so depending on where you're from-- south, north, west, or midwest-- everyone sounds slightly different. But some places just have a typical, standard American accent.
Fun fun!!! thank you for the video, 2 years later giving me smiles and entertainment!!
Am an American from New York, amusingly some stuff is different, some stuff is the same! it's funny how regional american accents can be really different too lol.
1. I would say Aunt kiwi style, but with more of a drawl, Aw-nt. My Auntie says Ant like the American style :3.
2. A softer version of the kiwi version, like en (end)-vel- low-pe, but no hard consonants. (Altho a lot of people say the proper way.)
3. I am one of those people that say rowte
4. I say this the same as American-st.louis style
5. Same as St. Louis style :D (caught)
6. Same as St. Louis Style (salmon)
7. I say ka-rah-mel, the way Andrea says the friend says it I think both pronouncians are understood here.
8. I say this american style
9. I am one of those people who say pee- can the second way.
10. I say again the american style
11. I say lawyer the kiwi style, but there's no emphasis or hard consonants, it's a drawl. Like Loy-er with a drawl on the -oy and emphasis on the er. So the way Andrea repeated the kiwi style is how i say it XD
12. water I say american style.
13. naturally american style
14. aluminum american style
15 milk american style
16. american style cheers
I say all the sentences American style :D
Listening to you two is a lot of fun, thank you!
Me: I'm Canadaian. American girl: "I dOn'T kNoW hOw cAnaDiaNs sAy iT." Lol it's basiclly the same but pretty different.
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Sending love from NEW ZEALAND 😊
BlackPink is the revolution
ay fellow blink 👍❤
Yesss kiwi kpop fans unite
Great fun! As a Midwest girl, yeah, we have a 'flat' accent. I casually study accents, but I haven't found the key to Kiwi yet, much as I love hearing it.
Someone shared a "How to DAD" video on Facebook & some "expert" said DAD's not a real Kiwi because he said "fish & chips" not "fush & chups." He knows because he dated a NZ girl & her whole family said it that way!
Ooh... you should try comparing the word 'solder' (as in soldering iron). When I (Kiwi) lived in the US this baffled me completely!
Yes. Americans say 'sodder' and don't pronounce the 'l' in solder. I am Australian and it annoys me no end.
I've personally come across many native accents... I can clearly say New Zealand accent is the most exotic... ♥️
I say lawyer the NZ way 🤷♀️
I don't know if that's even the "NZ way" because I have never heard anyone in the U.S. say "law-yer"--at least not on the West Coast. Maybe that's a Midwest/Southern thing. I've only ever heard "loy-er."
Same
@@db2xs it's not even a southern thing I pretty sure no one in the US pronounce it that way
3:20 when cooking onions to release their natural sugars is it to Car-Mel-Ize or Cara-mel-Ize? Suppose it's also about context.
Take the vowel and move it one along, simple. For example e becomes an i sound, pen sounds like pin.