@@jamesanthony5681 You need both Burts and Rogers in a dynamic company. If one type of person was all you needed to form a stable dominance, history would be very different.
He literally opens and closes lines in the best ways. They made his character so well. He is a guy you'd meet in real life that just has a multitude of sayings that are appropriate and funny for all situations.
Never oversell.... SELL it ,and then get out ... let them marinade in it for a while .. also gives them NO chance to think of OBJECTIONS... if they have time to, you will be put you in a defensive posture again.. and you dont need that crap.... he executed it perfectly...
@@jefffromjersey52 Look at that. I’m also in Jersey. Go ahead. I’m curious as to what these niche products are. Tell me about what you sell. If it’s not unreasonable, perhaps I might something.
Which was perfectly placed, due to the foreshadowed "...hungry" line. The dude is a killer....great writing. Also, how he set the tone "....I'm done hearing about that letter" gangster..
It's laid on too thick. The carousel metaphor was excellent, by this point in the series it became overblown and a parody of itself. This spiel is like a Hollywood fantasy - it just doesn't happen in real life.
@@Mr___X agreed, in general the writing in this show is excellent and although I love this scene that particular exchange felt jarring. The what is happiness line means nothing and doesn’t really fit with the rest of the pitch.
@@Mr___X Yeah, I don’t think accounts were won by going into an office with an attitude telling your potential clients that they’re too complacent and lazy and then storming off.
@@wfk3rd i watched back some of the show and it's significantly less impressive than i remember it being. far too much of the show is effectively fantasy writing, a rewriting of history and suspension of reality for the sake of crafting a very ethno-political narrative (which the creator is open about in interviews). the inadvertent appeal of the show is that what they're trying to satirise is ironically what legitimately people enjoy. i suspect the shock the writers had at the audience reception may be partly why the quality declined so severely after the early seasons.
One of my favorite things about this scene is when Don is trying to convince them to leave the other firm, he tells them exactly what their firm did w/ Lucky Strike. They put them on the back burner, used them for more lunches, and they were about to fold up like a tent when Lucky left. He talks so confidently because he’s lived it.
@@TheJupiteL Exactly. Business is business. Loyalty in the corporate world is a fantasy. Like Harry Crane once said: “they draw a line on a list, and everyone below it goes…..
Love it. I also love Don's blank expression to the Dow execs when shaking hands. He knows he said all he needed to say... no need to add any frivolity to it.
@@shortietiki Companies are realizing just how valuable their IP’s are for instant library viewing. Sadly, the splintering of media across dozens of streaming sites has become the norm
@@shortietiki i never watched it while it was on Netflix, (i know , F me!) had to watch on some other streaming on SD and w/ commercials. (i know, F Me again!)
Everyone forgets the point of this scene. It's not about how cool Don Draper is steamrolling a meeting and making a highhanded pitch. It's about how much he's changed and how far he's fallen. When he pitched lucky strike, happiness was "a billboard on the side of the street screaming with reassurance that whatever you're doing is okay, you are okay". But here, happiness is just "a moment before you want more happiness". If all of Don's pitches always come from a personal place, then this speaks volumes about how joyless his own life has become. A good setup for the series' ultimate conclusion.
I appreciate your point of view, really insightful comment, this is a great show and scenes like this are intended not only for Don to show off on his pitching abilities but to communicate the inner thoughts and feelings of the character without having to yell them at the viewer's face, really thankful of your comment
@@Kodak-Q cheers! It's why this scene is one of my favourites. It's also related to Don's chat with Connie where, when Connie makes an offer that's almost too tantalizing, Don says how there's snakes that die after swallowing too big a prey -- victims of their own hunger. And here Don is changed, saying "you get hungry even though you've just eaten"..
That "name another raincoat" was hilarious but also very smartly done. Roger lets Don show them his genius but at the same time hypes him up where needed. Amazing teamwork
@@mikelewchuk precisely, Don's definition might seem like a deep sounding dialogue, but its fake. True happiness is a condition which you build up gradually over the years by focussing on actions which you can control and filtering out everything else. Happiness comes from focussing total attention on your work at hand thus being completely immersed in flow states.
@@joyshaitan it's still deep? "Happiness is a moment before you need more happiness" shows the type of men Don and all those other capitalist sharks are. They just want more, more, and more. And they believe that's happiness. You have a different definition, which is fine! But Don knows how he thinks and how these other guys think, that's why he says that. He understands the vanity that humans have.
Happiness is the smell of a new car. It's freedom from fear. It's a billboard on the side of the road that screams at you that whatever you're doing, it's OK. You.are.okay
EXcept thats a very poisonous philosophy to live by. Don basically admitted that he can never be happy because he can never be satisfied. I don't know about you but to me that sounds like a miserable life, which is what it proved to be in later seasons.
It's a very selfish way though. You're not alone, we share a world with others. You have to take a little and live a little. So everybody can have some.
Don is brilliance defined in this clip. But also in so many subtle ways Roger shows what an awesome account manager he was. He reads the mood and knows when to intervene and when to stay silent.
Damn, the way he immediately stood up, thanked them for their time, and left without missing a beat after he finished saying what he came to say was an absolute power move. I haven't seen the show but after watching this scene I am definitely gonna look it up.
Ah, but Ed Baxter immediately checks him when he says "Thank you for stopping by." A seemingly minor formality but he downplays Don's impact and sends the message that they are in charge and making the decisions. Wonderfully scripted series and the acting is top notch. AMC was in the stratosphere then, having both Mad Men and Breaking Bad on at the same time. I wonder if they'll ever capture lightning in a bottle like that again.
Dont forget the part where Don literally comes up with a patriotic pitch for Napalm, which is a symbol for American atrocity in Vietnam, right off the top of his head.
Watch this when in the waiting room for a job interview then go in and tear their heads off. “We’re interviewing several candidate” “forget the others, I’m Here, let’s get to Work” 👍
Saving! I might try something like that, step outside my comfort zone. I feel like the antithesis of D Draper sometimes in the situations I need to be more like him.
@@tomw485 I knew they were interviewing more people, and when I didn't get a call back, I called them and said: "what are you waiting for? let's go!" "ok, come on in, we'll get you started."
Damn the writing was good. Don ends the meeting himself, that was the finaly nail inthe coffin. I tried doing that at work, but I screwed it up because I left out some details and had to go back to eleborate to my team... We all laughed
The writing in this scene is poor. The series declined significantly in the middle compared to the early episodes. This is Hollywood-esque writing, the spiel and grandstanding takes it in to the realm of fantasy. It's suitable for Marvel and not much else.
Yeah he took advantage of Roger got him drunk just showed up the next day said you gave me a job don't you remember? Since half the job is drinking and manipulating people anyway Roger had to have been impressed himself.
"What is happiness? It's a moment before you need more happiness." This quote can be applied to Draper's lifetime struggles as well. He is never satisfied and is always chasing that momentary happiness. Untill he accepted who he was and where he came from, he will always be that moment away from needing more happiness. His empty consumerism lifestyle does not fulfill him. His multiple marriages to beautiful women never fulfilled him. Those were mere artifacts designed so he can hop from momentary bliss to momentary bliss. This was his hidden conflict in life coming up as a sales pitch.
"Don, I hate to rain coat on your parade, but our business is a little more sophisticated than London Fog. Save your cheap sales talk for the used car lot or the coupon clippers."
The key take-away here is not that Don will get 100%. No one ever does. But that’s no reason to not try for it. That way, you’re never happy. You’re always hungry. Give that man a waffle!
1:15 Which is hilariously ironic since SDCP was doing the exact same things- using reliable (but stale) tobacco business to subsidize their own creative work, and without it the whole thing nearly blew up.
Yet again, Mad Men shows us that life is appearances versus realities. I bet if he sold them, he’d do some version of what he did when he sold the lipstick account. Gives that solid line about not preaching about Jesus, he either lives in your heart or he doesn’t. And then when they walk out and everyone is smiling and shaking hands, he tells the same guy that we will never know if it works, advertising isn’t a science. This show is all about the idea of being in love with the idea of something, but not actually getting it. Because the moment you get it, you no longer want it. Greatest show amc ever produced.
It's also apt to Don's life. He bounces from one shiny object to the next, always on the brink of happiness but his deep-seated issues of identity crises come back, and he fall back down. He then yearns for more happiness to combat that feeling of being stuck. He sells us the idea of Don Draper, but nobody really knows who he is under all that. Just an empty vessel that sold his name for trinkets
"You said they were going to bring your son in law." "Ken knows better!" Oooph. That aside was swift and deadly. Tried to kill Roger and Don before they even got started.
Having spent 30 years in sales, in one form or another, I can tell you without reservation that no one sells anything with a pitch like Don made... it only works on TV. Sales is about coming to agreement, NOT about winning an argument.
I don't doubt your expertise. But Don's not selling them anything, he's unsettling them. They're complacent, they're smug, they're getting soft. He's showing them what hunger looks like, tapping-into their fear of getting old. This is "creating the itch." The cure comes later.
Also yes in this era and time this took place, yes absolutely this is how they pitched things. That's why ur drawn to this show, men with passion pitching feelings and ideas, see u don't u sell time and micromanagement and compromise so u envy Don. He sells things u talk about selling things
Don is a master tactician. He’s playing chess while others are playing checkers. Sometimes you need to plant the idea and let the client to come to you.
@Sills71 Yupp..although this is one of my most favorite scenes from Mad Men, it’s just damn good television. Stunts like this would never happen in real life without the rest of the room looking at each other and thinking this guy is nuts..and then being shown the door..haha
'You mean that stuff those kids outside you're building are screaming about?' Ever seen a straighter face for a reaction before? I couldn't be gladder it passed.
"'You're happy with your agency?' You're not happy with anything" I think that line hits hard on anybody. It's a great technique Don uses because it connects a deep emotion of unsatisfaction with your life as a whole (which I guarantee almost everybody has) with something that's not necesarily related (the agency). It makes you think that if you're really not happy overall, "I'm happy with my agency" sounds fake. And if I said something I now find to be fake, ah... I might have a problem with my agency.
That line is hamfisted. It demands the audience suspend their disbelief. It's good for character formation of Draper, but it jars with the plot and literal events on the screen. It's a poor repetition of the carousel metaphor, which was profound. The show ran out of steam very quickly, and this is the result. It became a parody.
@@Mr___X How is that hamfisted? He told the truth and hit the guys were it counts. They may shrug you off for the afternoon but when they run the numbers or have their shareholder meeting those words will come right back around and you realize you need someone like Don in your corner. Corporate America is based on a flawed model of infinite growth with limited resources. Anyone working for a corporation is a slave to this model and he laid it all at their feet.
@@ColoradoStreaming This is fantasy. You are either sheltered or young if you think this spiel would be met with anything but laughter and/or a displeased response. This is wish fulfillment, no different to Marvel films, where the hero gets to break the laws and norms of reality and get away with fantasy.
@@Mr___X Sure, its fiction and a show for entertainment. The writers are going to crank things beyond normal reality but the principals he was addressing were still real. Don knew his back was against the wall so he threw a Hail Mary to get the client from a competitor. He had nothing to lose so he hit it hard and gave them something to think about. This is how people talked back then. Look at this real footage of NYC Union negotiations and tell me Mad Men can be painted with the same brush as the rehash comic book garbage Marvel puts out: ruclips.net/video/XfkhS1R8A2Q/видео.html
@@Mr___X This is complete nonsense. This scene (and the season as a whole) has nothing to do with the earlier seasons and especially the carousel pitch. Don has changed a lot by this point and so have the people around him. He had grown frustrated and his life is in pieces. The writing in the later seasons didn't get much worse at all. The show just changed. Comparing it to Marvel is just completely idiotic and ridiculous and only shows that you're not being genuine.
@Dalton Fitzgerald Lol. It clearly shows Sterling Cooper is working with Dow Chemicals in the next season. They landed the account. "Nothing happens". 😂
One becomes an excellent English speaker watching this series. The depth of understanding of American life, as well as humor and history will take a person a long way.
Which was perfectly placed, due to the foreshadowed "...hungry" line. The dude is a killer....great writing. Also, how he set the tone "....I'm done hearing about that letter" gangster..
Dismissing the letter was the key to it all. Don had to get out of his own head. Everyone gaslit him into thinking he made some huge mistake but there wasn't really anything wrong with it. He just forgot how retarded everyone else in his industry can be. Happens in a lot of business environments.
The entire pitch, he's talking about himself. He's never happy. Even when he is, it's not for long. He wants everything, all of it. But it's never enough to make him happy.
NEVER seen this show aside from "how to deal with something employee" clip.. I see these seasons at Goodwill all the time & i think im going starty watching it. Draper is a beast!
A great scene and many I'm sure like the edit the way it is, however if you add the end part where Draper explains his strategy it would have been a lot more interesting.
Roger and Don were amazing together. I always found Don to be a stick in the mud miserable bastard whereas Roger was the man Don should have strived to be. I loved how the final season had Don and Roger as more friends than just coworkers.
He used the same spiel to woo them away from their faithful agency partner that he uses on married women: you're on the back burner, they take you for granted.
What is often missed is that they GET this client completely offscreen, they just have it by the time the next season starts so this "impossible" meeting worked.
The "name another raincoat" line was hilarious and perfectly timed
Roger is the ultimate hypeman
that's the kind of thing you can't put on a CV but is crucial nevertheless. I never thought Roger was useless to the company
paul heyman
@@atlantabaruah Bert Cooper thought he was useless.
@@jamesanthony5681 in the end, Roger got his vision.
@@jamesanthony5681 You need both Burts and Rogers in a dynamic company. If one type of person was all you needed to form a stable dominance, history would be very different.
Love Don Draper, but if I needed a wing man for a night on the town, there’s no substitute for Rodger Sterling.
yes because there's no way Don doesn't leabe with the girl
yeah never fly tip to tip with a Draper. You’ll get stuck with the fat chick while you listen to Don make pound cake next door
Don Draper isn't happy with 50% of the girls you're both chatting up He just said so. So yes, Sterling.
That’s because Don isn’t a wing man, he’s the center of attention lol
Yea, Don is not "wing man" hes the god dam ace fighter pilot !
I was saving half the coffeecake I just bought for my wife, but after watching this scene, screw her--I want it all!
Hahahahahahahah
Brilliant!
Your name makes this comment even better
@kiiji guy He most probably will
My wife does not even know the coffeecake even exists.
Roger's line after this clip was genius...."I'd buy you a drink if you wipe the blood off your mouth"
Yeah, dam shame it was left off vid
I mean is there any line said by Roger that isn't genius? That man is the master of witty quips. XD!
He literally opens and closes lines in the best ways. They made his character so well. He is a guy you'd meet in real life that just has a multitude of sayings that are appropriate and funny for all situations.
"I watched the sunrise today. Couldn't sleep."
"How was it?"
"Average."
Don gets the big speeches, but Roger's wit and jokes are the real diamonds of the show
"So, you're vindicitive?"
"Not as vindictive as you, apparently".
Roger was absolutely the best with the quick comeback.
Quick for him, for the writers it took a little longer.
Your Irishman has several in the chamber.
You can see the look on Don's face at that point. Roger screwed up.
@@jaysparche was holding eye contact with somebody else when Roger said that.
The coolest thing is that he ended the meeting, totally highjacked it.
yelled at them and then thanked them .. challenged them .
Never oversell.... SELL it ,and then get out ... let them marinade in it for a while .. also gives them NO chance to think of OBJECTIONS... if they have time to, you will be put you in a defensive posture again.. and you dont need that crap.... he executed it perfectly...
Thats Just Badass
@@jefffromjersey52 What do you sell? Jalopies?
@@jefffromjersey52 Look at that. I’m also in Jersey. Go ahead. I’m curious as to what these niche products are. Tell me about what you sell. If it’s not unreasonable, perhaps I might something.
"When America Needs it, Dow makes it". Solid tagline right there
Great marketing, awful for humanity
@@weemeemoo dow made many diffferent products. I have always been a proud shareholder
@@CharlesCoderre-yv1cu I bet you’re a proud cancer patient too.
@@Gala-yp8nx nope, sorry to disappoint you - 70 yrs old, used 2,4-D/2,4,5-T ("orange") on my parents lawn when I was 10 yrs old
Maybe my favorite tagline is: "We can't wait for tomorrow. Alcoa can't wait."
"What is happiness? It's a moment before you need more happiness." - Great line.
Which was perfectly placed, due to the foreshadowed "...hungry" line. The dude is a killer....great writing. Also, how he set the tone "....I'm done hearing about that letter" gangster..
It's laid on too thick. The carousel metaphor was excellent, by this point in the series it became overblown and a parody of itself. This spiel is like a Hollywood fantasy - it just doesn't happen in real life.
@@Mr___X agreed, in general the writing in this show is excellent and although I love this scene that particular exchange felt jarring. The what is happiness line means nothing and doesn’t really fit with the rest of the pitch.
@@Mr___X Yeah, I don’t think accounts were won by going into an office with an attitude telling your potential clients that they’re too complacent and lazy and then storming off.
@@wfk3rd i watched back some of the show and it's significantly less impressive than i remember it being. far too much of the show is effectively fantasy writing, a rewriting of history and suspension of reality for the sake of crafting a very ethno-political narrative (which the creator is open about in interviews). the inadvertent appeal of the show is that what they're trying to satirise is ironically what legitimately people enjoy. i suspect the shock the writers had at the audience reception may be partly why the quality declined so severely after the early seasons.
One of my favorite things about this scene is when Don is trying to convince them to leave the other firm, he tells them exactly what their firm did w/ Lucky Strike. They put them on the back burner, used them for more lunches, and they were about to fold up like a tent when Lucky left. He talks so confidently because he’s lived it.
And he also says "you don't owe them anything", the same way Lee Garner Jr. told Roger about his agency.
Very true.
Don trolling hippies, ruclips.net/video/KoZDujXuDY0/видео.html
@@TheJupiteL Exactly. Business is business. Loyalty in the corporate world is a fantasy. Like Harry Crane once said: “they draw a line on a list, and everyone below it goes…..
its a tv character u fucking dork
I love that little subtle moment when Roger realizes that Don's done the pitch right at the end.
It’s brilliant. Roger is totally taken by surprise like “Whoa, okay, I guess I’m standing up now”.
Love it. I also love Don's blank expression to the Dow execs when shaking hands. He knows he said all he needed to say... no need to add any frivolity to it.
@@N62017 there’s definitely no frivolity with Don. 😄
I really loved the moment when Don says, "By the way gentleman, in Korea, I loved the smell of napalm in the morning."
Jesus Don, wipe the blood off your mouth
Lmao he’s getting mad at them for being satisfied
Being comfortable/Satisfied doesn't grow business.
R S if u already have money, clout, and power y risk losing them
More money, clout, and power.
R S Perfect response 😁
The deeper reason is that Don himself is not satisfied with his own life and he wants other people to feel the same
1:50 "Name another raincoat!" Roger sealed the deal with that line.
Patrick, is that a raincoat?
@@dielaughing73 Yes it is!
Patrick Bateman Hey Halberstram, why are there copies of the style section all over the place? Do you have a dog? A little chow or something? Haha!
London Fog really came into their own that year.
Let's see Paul Allen's rain coat.
sigh.....(pulls mad men dvd's out of closet)
You're lucky. I'm only here because it's not Netflix anymore
@@mike7920 how in the fuck do they take one of the best shows off Netflix but leave the other crap on??
@@shortietiki Companies are realizing just how valuable their IP’s are for instant library viewing. Sadly, the splintering of media across dozens of streaming sites has become the norm
@@shortietiki I know right. Dicks
@@shortietiki i never watched it while it was on Netflix, (i know , F me!) had to watch on some other streaming on SD and w/ commercials. (i know, F Me again!)
Everyone forgets the point of this scene. It's not about how cool Don Draper is steamrolling a meeting and making a highhanded pitch. It's about how much he's changed and how far he's fallen.
When he pitched lucky strike, happiness was "a billboard on the side of the street screaming with reassurance that whatever you're doing is okay, you are okay". But here, happiness is just "a moment before you want more happiness".
If all of Don's pitches always come from a personal place, then this speaks volumes about how joyless his own life has become. A good setup for the series' ultimate conclusion.
I appreciate your point of view, really insightful comment, this is a great show and scenes like this are intended not only for Don to show off on his pitching abilities but to communicate the inner thoughts and feelings of the character without having to yell them at the viewer's face, really thankful of your comment
@@Kodak-Q cheers! It's why this scene is one of my favourites. It's also related to Don's chat with Connie where, when Connie makes an offer that's almost too tantalizing, Don says how there's snakes that die after swallowing too big a prey -- victims of their own hunger. And here Don is changed, saying "you get hungry even though you've just eaten"..
Don's much better here than he is in season 4. These pitches are about what he's up against, not him.
But isn't that it...pitches are pitches, happiness or sadness or anger, whatever sells the cigarette or napalm.
@@Ratboy2004 You got it. The other guy just read too much into it and got carried away. Business is business. Whatever sells sells.
That "name another raincoat" was hilarious but also very smartly done. Roger lets Don show them his genius but at the same time hypes him up where needed. Amazing teamwork
"What is happiness? It's a moment before you need more happiness."
Which is precisely why it’s a terrible life goal. Contentment is one thing, happiness is a gluttonous beast.
@@mikelewchuk precisely, Don's definition might seem like a deep sounding dialogue, but its fake. True happiness is a condition which you build up gradually over the years by focussing on actions which you can control and filtering out everything else. Happiness comes from focussing total attention on your work at hand thus being completely immersed in flow states.
@@joyshaitan it's still deep? "Happiness is a moment before you need more happiness" shows the type of men Don and all those other capitalist sharks are. They just want more, more, and more. And they believe that's happiness. You have a different definition, which is fine! But Don knows how he thinks and how these other guys think, that's why he says that. He understands the vanity that humans have.
Happiness is the smell of a new car. It's freedom from fear. It's a billboard on the side of the road that screams at you that whatever you're doing, it's OK. You.are.okay
This is American capitalism at its core *sigh* *loves Mad Men*
Never thought having 100 % of anything would be great or cool until Don Draper just explained why it would be.
EXcept thats a very poisonous philosophy to live by. Don basically admitted that he can never be happy because he can never be satisfied. I don't know about you but to me that sounds like a miserable life, which is what it proved to be in later seasons.
It's a very selfish way though. You're not alone, we share a world with others. You have to take a little and live a little. So everybody can have some.
Jesus bro don't listen to Don Draper lmfao
Its not about the meal its about the hunt
I got the exact opposite. Utterly disgusting and the literal definition of gluttony and greed.
Don is brilliance defined in this clip. But also in so many subtle ways Roger shows what an awesome account manager he was. He reads the mood and knows when to intervene and when to stay silent.
One mouth, two ears.
Even that little throat clearing after the Napalm pitch to keep the conversation going.
@@ColoradoStreaming what does it mean when people clear their throat ? Is it anxiety or what?
@@Tonyconstanza Discomfort I would say.
God dammit I’m gonna have to go back and watch Mad Men from the very beginning AGAIN now 🤦♂️
fuck yeah
Mad men is gone from Netflix sadly😭 it was the greatest show I’ve ever seen I’ll come back to it one day in the future
@@joshuaaguayo5539 yh was wondering where it went 😭😭😭😭
Crazy not to
@@tayyabhussain4527 it went to amazon prime video, in subscribing just for mad men 😅
one of the best written shows ever, imo. the whole cast was perfect, too.
Especially to those interested or ever worked in marketing and advertising this show had brilliant writing and acting.
Damn, the way he immediately stood up, thanked them for their time, and left without missing a beat after he finished saying what he came to say was an absolute power move. I haven't seen the show but after watching this scene I am definitely gonna look it up.
Mad men
That was "I came here and I got what I wanted - the time to make my pitch and I accomplished what I set out to do." energy
Ah, but Ed Baxter immediately checks him when he says "Thank you for stopping by." A seemingly minor formality but he downplays Don's impact and sends the message that they are in charge and making the decisions.
Wonderfully scripted series and the acting is top notch. AMC was in the stratosphere then, having both Mad Men and Breaking Bad on at the same time. I wonder if they'll ever capture lightning in a bottle like that again.
Dont forget the part where Don literally comes up with a patriotic pitch for Napalm, which is a symbol for American atrocity in Vietnam, right off the top of his head.
It's an excellent show and worth your time.
Jon Hamm was such a perfect actor for Don Draper!
I can't picture a single other actor in the role.
"I don't want to hear about that letter again."
That’s confidence
He totally set the frame with that line. Like a boss.
"Lets talk about the letter A."
Watch this when in the waiting room for a job interview
then go in and tear their heads off.
“We’re interviewing several candidate”
“forget the others, I’m Here, let’s get to Work” 👍
Dr.'sorders Carpe diem ‼️
@Dr.'sorders Arrogance is just another word for confidence
Saving! I might try something like that, step outside my comfort zone. I feel like the antithesis of D Draper sometimes in the situations I need to be more like him.
@@tomw485 I did that once about 30 years ago and it worked
@@tomw485 I knew they were interviewing more people, and when I didn't get a call back, I called them and said: "what are you waiting for? let's go!" "ok, come on in, we'll get you started."
Damn the writing was good. Don ends the meeting himself, that was the finaly nail inthe coffin. I tried doing that at work, but I screwed it up because I left out some details and had to go back to eleborate to my team... We all laughed
Yeah, ending the pitch was good, particularly after waiting so long. This wasn't a details meeting, keep working on it.
Thats fkn funny
sad cringe
The writing in this scene is poor. The series declined significantly in the middle compared to the early episodes. This is Hollywood-esque writing, the spiel and grandstanding takes it in to the realm of fantasy. It's suitable for Marvel and not much else.
@@greenlamp9219 nah at least he tried
Clients don't hire Don, Don hires himself to Clients. that's how he got the job in the first place.
The seller sells the buyer not the salt. You make yourself invaluable to someone, not your skill or trade. YOURSELF.
That's very true.
@@grayden4138 he's invaluable because of his skill like when Hilton asked for his eye wanted a "free one".
Yeah he took advantage of Roger got him drunk just showed up the next day said you gave me a job don't you remember? Since half the job is drinking and manipulating people anyway Roger had to have been impressed himself.
"What is happiness? It's a moment before you need more happiness." This quote can be applied to Draper's lifetime struggles as well. He is never satisfied and is always chasing that momentary happiness. Untill he accepted who he was and where he came from, he will always be that moment away from needing more happiness. His empty consumerism lifestyle does not fulfill him. His multiple marriages to beautiful women never fulfilled him. Those were mere artifacts designed so he can hop from momentary bliss to momentary bliss. This was his hidden conflict in life coming up as a sales pitch.
"Don, I hate to rain coat on your parade, but our business is a little more sophisticated than London Fog. Save your cheap sales talk for the used car lot or the coupon clippers."
name another raincoat!
helly hansen
@@lm1584 ...get the fuck out.
Trojan.
Burberry
Nautica!
*_I JUST SOLD 3 CARS AFTER WATCHING THIS VIDEO._*
*_THE FUCKED UP THING IS THAT I'M A PIZZA DELIVERY MAN._*
🤣🤣
If you were a Pizza Man you would know that selling three cars isn't that rare for us.
Don: "Give me your account"
Dow: "we'll think about"
Don: "Give me your account"
Dow: "ok"
The key take-away here is not that Don will get 100%. No one ever does. But that’s no reason to not try for it. That way, you’re never happy. You’re always hungry. Give that man a waffle!
"What is happiness? It's a moment before you need more happiness."
Ain't that the truth.
"You're not happy with anything"
"Let me handle your account, you'll be happier"
Happy =/= happier
I see the president of the US from Red Alert 2 is doing well
Freaking awesome to see another player recognise him.
"No comrade premier; it has only begun!"
WE'RE LAUGHING AT YOU, RED!
Great voice acting
Hahaha 👍
Roger is such a perfect wingman😂
2:19 The look on Roger's face was like, "Do your thing Don, bring it home".
"The important thing is when our boys are fighting and they need it -- when America needs it -- Dow makes it, and it works."
2:48 "Thank you for making me fall in love with you"
I'm distracted by the suits and the pocket squares. "You get hungry even though you've just eaten"
Roger was the real man of this show nothing phased him and he treated everything lightly
If anyone was gonna do acid it was gonna be him
He didn't treat the Japanese lightly.
This was Don at his best and most aggressive. Just mesmerizing. Amazing acting from Ray Wise too. A subtle awe behind his confident smile.
"You're happy with your agency? You're not happy with anything." Critical line.
Yes, the writers of this series were outstanding.
i finished watching the show three days ago. now i want to rewatch it.
Damn lol
One of the best scenes in the entire series IMO.
Happiness is a moment before you want more happiness......fucking wow. So true
1:15 Which is hilariously ironic since SDCP was doing the exact same things- using reliable (but stale) tobacco business to subsidize their own creative work, and without it the whole thing nearly blew up.
Yet again, Mad Men shows us that life is appearances versus realities. I bet if he sold them, he’d do some version of what he did when he sold the lipstick account. Gives that solid line about not preaching about Jesus, he either lives in your heart or he doesn’t. And then when they walk out and everyone is smiling and shaking hands, he tells the same guy that we will never know if it works, advertising isn’t a science. This show is all about the idea of being in love with the idea of something, but not actually getting it. Because the moment you get it, you no longer want it. Greatest show amc ever produced.
"happiness is the moment . . . (just) before you need more (happiness)". One of the best lines of this awesome series.
dopamine
It's also apt to Don's life. He bounces from one shiny object to the next, always on the brink of happiness but his deep-seated issues of identity crises come back, and he fall back down. He then yearns for more happiness to combat that feeling of being stuck. He sells us the idea of Don Draper, but nobody really knows who he is under all that. Just an empty vessel that sold his name for trinkets
@@colechapman6976 Agreed. That's exactly why he knows this.
Great writing, great acting.
The glare he gave to the marketing director at the end was hilarious
2:11 until 2:17, that part alone is an ad made on the spot! Draper is just GENIUS! Even the guy face realize what he just witnessed!
"I had a feeling this is what this was all about"
Don: I'm not here to tell you about Jesus
My favorite Roger Stirling line to Don is, "No used to make you hard." Insulting and inspiring in ONE fell swoop.
I love that line, too. Wherever things get tough in life, I think of that.
Rodger with the volley-ball setup.
When Howard Stark and Bruce Wayne go to a meeting together.
Sterling and Draper are a powerful sales team, masterful
*Thomas Wayne
Great comparison, because this kind of writing is something you'd find in a Marvel film. Not good.
@@Mr___X Did the showrunners run over your dog or something? Do you have nothing better to do?
@@WhoopsieDayZ cry moar
one of the best tv shows of all time.
That was some of the best acting ever, period.
"You said they were going to bring your son in law."
"Ken knows better!"
Oooph. That aside was swift and deadly. Tried to kill Roger and Don before they even got started.
Having spent 30 years in sales, in one form or another, I can tell you without reservation that no one sells anything with a pitch like Don made... it only works on TV. Sales is about coming to agreement, NOT about winning an argument.
I don't doubt your expertise. But Don's not selling them anything, he's unsettling them. They're complacent, they're smug, they're getting soft. He's showing them what hunger looks like, tapping-into their fear of getting old. This is "creating the itch." The cure comes later.
Also yes in this era and time this took place, yes absolutely this is how they pitched things. That's why ur drawn to this show, men with passion pitching feelings and ideas, see u don't u sell time and micromanagement and compromise so u envy Don. He sells things u talk about selling things
Don is a master tactician. He’s playing chess while others are playing checkers. Sometimes you need to plant the idea and let the client to come to you.
@Sills71 Yupp..although this is one of my most favorite scenes from Mad Men, it’s just damn good television. Stunts like this would never happen in real life without the rest of the room looking at each other and thinking this guy is nuts..and then being shown the door..haha
@@jakehanna4580 Grandfather was a salesman during this time and he says this isn't how you do it
00:17 NOW they can say "we know jack schmidt"...
Im gonna play this every day when I get up in the morning in 2023. Because "I want all of it!"
'You mean that stuff those kids outside you're building are screaming about?' Ever seen a straighter face for a reaction before? I couldn't be gladder it passed.
The guy looked pretty angry 😠😡 about that little put-down 😄
It's important to point that out. It points to the fact that there could be problems in the future.
Circuit City and Radio Shack needed Draper
After watching this, I just ordered all _Mad Men_ seasons on DVD even though I can stream them all whenever I want.
And, I already own the DVDs.
Damn, Don is such a boss !!!!
I kept waiting for Ed to start freaking out and talking about Laura...
You know, he used to flick matches at me!
I'm sold...what did I just buy again
Napalm, I think.
😂😂😂 this is exactly the feeling I get from watching most of Don's pitches.
"'You're happy with your agency?' You're not happy with anything" I think that line hits hard on anybody. It's a great technique Don uses because it connects a deep emotion of unsatisfaction with your life as a whole (which I guarantee almost everybody has) with something that's not necesarily related (the agency). It makes you think that if you're really not happy overall, "I'm happy with my agency" sounds fake. And if I said something I now find to be fake, ah... I might have a problem with my agency.
That line is hamfisted. It demands the audience suspend their disbelief. It's good for character formation of Draper, but it jars with the plot and literal events on the screen. It's a poor repetition of the carousel metaphor, which was profound. The show ran out of steam very quickly, and this is the result. It became a parody.
@@Mr___X How is that hamfisted? He told the truth and hit the guys were it counts. They may shrug you off for the afternoon but when they run the numbers or have their shareholder meeting those words will come right back around and you realize you need someone like Don in your corner. Corporate America is based on a flawed model of infinite growth with limited resources. Anyone working for a corporation is a slave to this model and he laid it all at their feet.
@@ColoradoStreaming This is fantasy. You are either sheltered or young if you think this spiel would be met with anything but laughter and/or a displeased response. This is wish fulfillment, no different to Marvel films, where the hero gets to break the laws and norms of reality and get away with fantasy.
@@Mr___X Sure, its fiction and a show for entertainment. The writers are going to crank things beyond normal reality but the principals he was addressing were still real. Don knew his back was against the wall so he threw a Hail Mary to get the client from a competitor. He had nothing to lose so he hit it hard and gave them something to think about. This is how people talked back then. Look at this real footage of NYC Union negotiations and tell me Mad Men can be painted with the same brush as the rehash comic book garbage Marvel puts out:
ruclips.net/video/XfkhS1R8A2Q/видео.html
@@Mr___X This is complete nonsense. This scene (and the season as a whole) has nothing to do with the earlier seasons and especially the carousel pitch. Don has changed a lot by this point and so have the people around him. He had grown frustrated and his life is in pieces. The writing in the later seasons didn't get much worse at all. The show just changed. Comparing it to Marvel is just completely idiotic and ridiculous and only shows that you're not being genuine.
2:45 Roger was so awestruck he didn't even realize the speech was over.
The ultimate salesman.
This is sales after building rapport and respect. This would never work if you didn’t build the fountain before hand
A Boss.
And a miserable human.
@Dalton Fitzgerald Lol. It clearly shows Sterling Cooper is working with Dow Chemicals in the next season. They landed the account. "Nothing happens". 😂
as someone who spent my whole life in sales (buying stuff), i would buy whatever don's selling
"What Is happiness? A moment before you need more happiness. "
they waited an hour and forty five minutes for a two minute meeting
When Sterling catchs up at the end 😂
When Don and Roger team up, no one in business can stop them from getting an account.
Line for line - Mad Men is the best. I tried talking like Don for a week. Nobody liked me anymore.
The key to talking like Don and getting away with it is staying silent until someone asks to you to talk.
😆 😆 😆
0:50 Something about the way he says that line is so badass
“Happiness is a moment before you want more happiness” -Draper
Be glad if you are a native English speaker just because of this serie.
One becomes an excellent English speaker watching this series. The depth of understanding of American life, as well as humor and history will take a person a long way.
Dude you cut the last line off! Roger tells don to wipe the blood off his mouth
that is the cinematic expression of the theory of differential accumulation.
2:18 That face of appreciation :)
Which was perfectly placed, due to the foreshadowed "...hungry" line. The dude is a killer....great writing. Also, how he set the tone "....I'm done hearing about that letter" gangster..
Dismissing the letter was the key to it all. Don had to get out of his own head. Everyone gaslit him into thinking he made some huge mistake but there wasn't really anything wrong with it. He just forgot how retarded everyone else in his industry can be. Happens in a lot of business environments.
The entire pitch, he's talking about himself. He's never happy. Even when he is, it's not for long. He wants everything, all of it. But it's never enough to make him happy.
I love the third guys reaction at 1:41. Hes like "Oh shit, this dude spitting right now!"
Roger’s face at the end. ‘Right then’
With all his many character flaws, one thing everyone has to acknowledge is that Don Draper can sell. Anything to anyone.
He was selling Don Draper to everyone, all the time. No turning it off.
"Anything to anyone."
Based on what exactly? He only sells things to rich white guys obsessed with capitalism. Pretty narrow target.
I've read the comments. Not everybody is buying your assertion.
Jon Hamm is great as Don Draper. I’d buy whatever he’s selling, especially Jon Hamm’s John Ham.
Don Draper is 1 of the greatest character ever !
NEVER seen this show aside from "how to deal with something employee" clip..
I see these seasons at Goodwill all the time & i think im going starty watching it. Draper is a beast!
I love how Don leaves on his terms, rather than wait to be shown out.
Someone refresh my memory--did he close them? Did he get the sale? It's been a long time since I watched it...
It's mentioned later that they have the account and there are issues with Ken, so yeah, they got it.
" I don't want to hear about that letter again."
Badass
A great scene and many I'm sure like the edit the way it is, however if you add the end part where Draper explains his strategy it would have been a lot more interesting.
Roger and Don were amazing together. I always found Don to be a stick in the mud miserable bastard whereas Roger was the man Don should have strived to be. I loved how the final season had Don and Roger as more friends than just coworkers.
He used the same spiel to woo them away from their faithful agency partner that he uses on married women: you're on the back burner, they take you for granted.
What is often missed is that they GET this client completely offscreen, they just have it by the time the next season starts so this "impossible" meeting worked.
Don never let’s someone adjourn a meeting. He sets the tone and the pace and cuts them off before they say “thank you for your time.”