How Valve turned FAILURE into SUCCESS

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    Valve tried to usher in an era of Linux gaming in the past, and it did not work. Not even a little. Getting devs to support a new operating system with a very very small user base was an impossible task. I’m glad that Valve tried, but they failed spectacularly the first time around.
    Fast forward a few years, and Valve has figured it out. Essentially Rather than getting the devs to commit to Linux they turned to Proton. That’s it success right? Windows games running on Linux! It’s amazing that Valve was able to make that work. The Devs said, No, and Valve said “fine I’ll do it myself”.
    But that’s just step one. Now Valve has to push developers to make their games run on fairly limited hardware.
    Some devs have seen the light and have been targeting the steam deck probably because they saw how popular handheld gaming is with the Switch and if they can do a little bit of extra work, it might benefit their customers in a big way.
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Комментарии • 395

  • @NerdNest
    @NerdNest  11 месяцев назад +19

    New Bespoke Post subscribers get 20% off their first box of awesome - go to bespokepost.com/nerdnest20 and enter code NERDNEST20 at checkout. Thanks to Bespoke Post for sponsoring!

    • @bigsmoothkaj
      @bigsmoothkaj 11 месяцев назад

      Recently came across your channel and love the content. In the market for a gaming handheld so all related videos have been amazing. Quick question: do you have a simple explanation video like this one that explains the whole anti-cheat blocker that prevents Steam Deck users from playing games like COD or FIFA? It’s the only barrier standing in my way from choosing a Deck over an Ally or even the upcoming Go. But I don’t quite understand the issue. Thanks.

    • @SpartX7
      @SpartX7 11 месяцев назад

      If a game like starfield have a preset for handhelds that would be great. But it will still be a 125GB download that you might wanna play with a resolution of 720p or 1080p at best. The bigger challenge is to cut the game size down. That is something the community isn't gonna help much with.

  • @GXShade
    @GXShade 11 месяцев назад +868

    Just remember, we need to thank wine developers as well. Without wine, Proton probably would not have existed.

    • @AndrewJacksonSE
      @AndrewJacksonSE 11 месяцев назад +54

      I was under the impression that Valve is co-developing Proton with Codeweavers. They were the developers of crossover, which was a commercial version of wine (which I used many many years ago to run office and various windows only tools on linux when I was student)

    • @dzibanart8521
      @dzibanart8521 11 месяцев назад +9

      ​@@AndrewJacksonSEindeed.

    • @Roruoni
      @Roruoni 11 месяцев назад +43

      I think Joshua Ashton's project DXVK which showed rapid development and great promise is what actually made Valve take interest in Wine and Proton as a project that they could push forward on. They paired it with the pressure-vessel project they were looking at developing to solve Linux runtime woes with it's bubblewrap containers

    • @AndrewJacksonSE
      @AndrewJacksonSE 11 месяцев назад +11

      @@Roruoni interesting - I haven’t dug that deep. Certainly Proton now is an impressive piece of work and has gone far further with Valve dollars than it would have! It has convinced me I could manage to move back to Linux as my regular desktop OS at home.

    • @rev0lu7ion
      @rev0lu7ion 11 месяцев назад +26

      Yeah there's no way proton could exist without wine. That was decades of work on a massively difficult task.

  • @derram0k
    @derram0k 11 месяцев назад +230

    Valve never stopped with Linux support. The Deck is more of a continuation of pushing for that "Linux age of gaming" than a second run at it.

    • @baraka629
      @baraka629 10 месяцев назад +15

      Yep, Steam Machine, SteamOS, Big Picture Mode and the Steam Deck are just all on the same development continuum.

    • @TremereTT
      @TremereTT 10 месяцев назад +5

      valve joined forces with Linux to answer the trend of walled garden operating systems like, ios, macos x, chromeOS, android (defakto). And Microsoft wanting to jump on that train , spawned fear in Gabe steam might one day get replaced by the microsoft store....
      It's a strategy to mightygate the power of OS makers , by becoming a OS maker...well a linux distribution maker...and a supporter of a compatibility layer

    • @technite5360
      @technite5360 9 месяцев назад

      Of course, they supported it, it's free OS, it's good for their business (no licence and good dev environment, and answer to microsoft tentacles, look xbox pass, and Mstore). But GNU/linux is already "gaming" since most smartphone use it, no, you're talking about distros on desktop and Valve use their own based on Arch. There was already a gaming community but an indie one, using wine for exemple and most of the time, the problem of gaming not developing, was the fault of the Devs OR.... NVIDIA

    • @Elkarlo77
      @Elkarlo77 9 месяцев назад

      Personally i realy hope it. I am Microsoft PC Gamer since 1991. Microsoft account in Windows 11 is realy bad for PC Gaming. Linux Gaming is not good unless you get proton running. I will try on an old Haswell SteamOS again. And i got another PC to swap over. The biggest Archievement of Microsoft was the compatibility mode on Win 10. You could an old Win95 game and it runs. On Windows 11 as well. The Rumors about Win12 home are disheartening and may kill Epic Store, Valve Store and PC Gaming on the long run. SteamOS maybe the saviour: Lightweight Linux Desktop for the boring stuff and some surfing and SteamOS for gaming. And i think that Valve won't stop the SteamOS support. Even if Win 12 home won't come in with blocked sideload, win13 home may. And at this moment load of PC gamers will be searching an easy to install OS. Microsoft can't block it on the Enterprise or Pro Versions but Home maybe be crippled as hell.

    • @REXae86
      @REXae86 7 месяцев назад

      Linux age of gaming isn’t happening 😂

  • @MatGeeZ
    @MatGeeZ 11 месяцев назад +157

    When the first person uddered the question "will it run doom?", valve took it personally

    • @mu11668B
      @mu11668B 10 месяцев назад +3

      Gabe said in one of their documentaries that he himself ported Doom onto Windows. I bet they not only took it personally, but ought to also nail it.

  • @Dollique
    @Dollique 11 месяцев назад +81

    These are exactly the reasons why I decided to go for the Steam Deck rather than a potentially more powerful handheld device like the ROG Ally. The software support Valve is doing is crazy.

    • @WhatWillYouFind
      @WhatWillYouFind 10 месяцев назад +6

      OLED Deck is punch for punch a knockout. I would never gamble a handful of benjamins on ASUS or anyone else when Steam will "just work."

    • @Slateproc
      @Slateproc 10 месяцев назад +6

      It's not just the insane backend support, but it's also that the ally just has too much horsepower for what it's trying to do

    • @MrVariant
      @MrVariant 4 месяца назад

      @WhatWillYouFind yeah I remember at launch how much of my steam library was incompatible at launch and it increased vastly over the years. Then consoles wanna charge you for everything (sony), delist a lot, underperform (nintendo) and go digital only (especially xbox).

  • @RaulChis
    @RaulChis 11 месяцев назад +270

    Long live the Steam Deck!

    • @Leopardeye
      @Leopardeye 11 месяцев назад +5

      Huzzah!😁😁😁

  • @Rokabur
    @Rokabur 10 месяцев назад +26

    This is one of the reasons Valve earns that 30% sales cut. It can not be easy or cheap not only developing Proton but going out of their way to patch games that otherwise might not run at all.

    • @Carewolf
      @Carewolf 10 месяцев назад +5

      It is still a little aggressive. But Valve is definitely the last case where I will complain about 30%. Once Apple, Microsoft, Sony and everybody else stops taking 30%, valve is next, but they do so much good work for what they take.

    • @wibs0n68
      @wibs0n68 10 месяцев назад +4

      People forgot that 30% is the Industry standard since forever

    • @kirbyjoe7484
      @kirbyjoe7484 8 месяцев назад

      @@wibs0n68 It's 25% these days.

    • @wibs0n68
      @wibs0n68 8 месяцев назад +1

      @@kirbyjoe7484 there are no stores that have 25% cut afaik

    • @reiniermoreno1653
      @reiniermoreno1653 7 месяцев назад

      30% is the standard in this market, also valve have discount for sales numbers, once the game reach a million of copies sold the percentage drop to 15%

  • @jvaldez5
    @jvaldez5 11 месяцев назад +116

    I hold the steam deck in such high regard that I put it alongside the ps2 as the gamechanger to play pc games on a handheld.

    • @InitialFailure
      @InitialFailure 10 месяцев назад +2

      Then, you're too young to understand how profound the PS2 was.
      The Deck has competition in the way of the Switch (which has massively out sold it), Ally (sales are climbing), Go (just released and looking promising), and numerous others. The Deck isn't even king of its own niche market, let alone the video game market writ large. Only if we get really specific does the Deck come out on top in any meaningful way.
      The PS2 on the other hand, dominated across all available ways to game in its era. It's not even a reasonably close comparison.

    • @mr.shplorb662
      @mr.shplorb662 10 месяцев назад +14

      @@InitialFailure he meant personally, no idea where you got sales numbers from that

    • @literatemax
      @literatemax 10 месяцев назад +7

      @@InitialFailure relevant username?? 💀

    • @InitialFailure
      @InitialFailure 10 месяцев назад +1

      @mr.shplorb662 why do you assume they meant personally?
      What does "gamechanger" mean to you?
      Why didn't they just say, "I like the deck as much as the PS2"?
      I'd argue you want it to not be sales because it'd be patently absurd otherwise. Gamechanger usually means something very impactful, and when we're speaking consoles, it's usually sales or cultural impact, which the deck again, is not at all having the same impact in any meaningful/measurable way. The reason they didn't simply say they like them both a lot is because they likely wanted to convey more than just some vague, personal preference (i.e. sales).
      We're both assuming here, but you're gonna need some stretching to make your reach 😀

    • @mr.shplorb662
      @mr.shplorb662 10 месяцев назад +5

      @@InitialFailure I know that for me, the steam deck changed the way I play games. So it's a "Game changer"

  • @woodtvnetwork
    @woodtvnetwork 10 месяцев назад +9

    "You have to fail before you can succeed later"
    This is so true and it is how we get better as people whether it's a project, skills, or career.
    Remember, it's not that you failed, it's how you recover later on.

  • @Kansamos_
    @Kansamos_ 11 месяцев назад +14

    I think your point with the “Great on Deck” store page is very on point. I only got my steam deck ~1 month ago, and I’ve already seen, and purchased, two games I would have probably never seen, or bought, if it wasn’t for that specfic store. And I love both of them, such smooth experiences on deck that work flawlessly.

    • @NerdNest
      @NerdNest  11 месяцев назад +5

      What games are they?

    • @Kansamos_
      @Kansamos_ 11 месяцев назад +6

      @@NerdNestCocoon and Planet of Lana! Currently loving both of them.

  • @ramongrady3166
    @ramongrady3166 11 месяцев назад +70

    Had my deck for about 6 months & I absolutely love it!!!

    • @smolltaco5667
      @smolltaco5667 10 месяцев назад

      Im thinking about getting an oled, dunno if i should get the expensive one though

    • @combopybrosharkfrenforhire6420
      @combopybrosharkfrenforhire6420 10 месяцев назад

      I think the cheaper option is probably better for not spending too much but the other oled model is probably worth as much as it’s selling for

  • @DVCBear
    @DVCBear 11 месяцев назад +62

    Just ordered a Steam deck, was going to wait until Black Friday but pulled the trigger. Looking forward to getting back into gaming after a 12 year break. This is great. I can keep my Mac and use the steam deck for windows games. And nobody knows I got a new PC.😊

    • @aidanmagill6769
      @aidanmagill6769 10 месяцев назад +25

      Man, I hope you waited...

    • @derrorer
      @derrorer 10 месяцев назад +21

      This didn't age well...

    • @DVCBear
      @DVCBear 10 месяцев назад +30

      Sorry to report :) I own an LCD, and have and OLED on the way. I enjoyed it that much!! Will gift my LCD version away.

    • @NoSmoke1
      @NoSmoke1 10 месяцев назад +32

      @@DVCBear the neutral ending

    • @mrkeeny
      @mrkeeny 10 месяцев назад

      Same here, 15 years cessation -apart from playing civ on iPad

  • @sentinel7122
    @sentinel7122 11 месяцев назад +52

    Just bought mine during the last sale, and it really did come to the "rescue" for me lol. Following a major injury/surgery, I've been unable to sit at my desk (in addition to losing my outdoors hobbies) due to pain for nearly a year. I don't play most of my "big" games on it, but I've been making way more time to play Indies and some older titles laying down comfortably! Love this thing.

    • @ImUrZaddy
      @ImUrZaddy 11 месяцев назад +5

      Play your “big” games through streaming my man!

    • @turdferguson3091
      @turdferguson3091 11 месяцев назад

      play your big games on it. ive been playing through cp2077 and it runs beautifully. esp with fsr on.

    • @XBASS247
      @XBASS247 11 месяцев назад +1

      Just play big games on it you will and you be fine
      matter fact some play better because of the control and get use to track pads add gyro and your a top shooter

    • @werpu12
      @werpu12 10 месяцев назад

      Heh.. same here, i had a disc prolapse and while i was in rehab valve announced the steam deck which was heavens sent, because I could barely sit, it has been my main gaming device ever since! I almost never turn on my gaming pc anymore!

  • @blackyraypatrick9041
    @blackyraypatrick9041 10 месяцев назад +5

    For explanations of shader cache i really like the example of an grenade explosion. The way the explosion will look, the smoke and fire animation will be precalculated the moment you throw your first grenade. You often see the first explosion cause a microstutter in many games. After you threw your first grenade the animation will be saved in a cache so that all the other grenades can explode smoothly...

  • @BillNyeTheBountyGuy
    @BillNyeTheBountyGuy 10 месяцев назад +3

    It's so refreshing to see a company stick to a product to make it successful. Every Valve product has been leading up to this basically. Steam Machines, Steam controller, Steam Big Picture, etc.

  • @callawolf531
    @callawolf531 10 месяцев назад +3

    I just bought my OLED Steam Deck, and got it the Friday after Thanksgiving.
    It's one of the best experiences I've had with a 'console,' I've ever had in my life, and I had a Switch already by the time I bought my Deck.
    Definitely glad the Steam Deck exists, and hope they continue showing the deck a lot of love,

  • @josephbartol7302
    @josephbartol7302 11 месяцев назад +13

    They need the DEFAULT especially on 64gb deck to put shader cache on sd card. Otherwise people will think their “CONSOLE” is not functional when they have no storage

    •  11 месяцев назад +4

      Yeah. Or at least a prompt, saying something like hey, shader cashe takes more than half your space. Would you like us to move it to the sd card?

    • @TheGavranatar
      @TheGavranatar 11 месяцев назад +3

      Literally takes 15 mins to unscrew the back cover and put 1TB SSD in it. Or 2TB if you want

    • @piens51
      @piens51 10 месяцев назад +2

      @@TheGavranatar plus geting a tool to clean the cacge is ultra easy.

    • @mgord9518
      @mgord9518 10 месяцев назад

      @@TheGavranatar The issue is that it isn't handled correctly by default.
      Sure, almost anyone could upgrade their SSD, but the 64GB Steam Deck is designed to be used as-is and it's illogical to store enormous shader caches on the tiny SSD if the user has a much larger SD card inserted.

  • @Leopardeye
    @Leopardeye 11 месяцев назад +4

    I remember watching vids on YT of ppl making portable ps2’s, portable GameCubes, and so on. We have one console that’s absolutely ALL of them, now. That is AMAZING, to me.

  • @trollerbladdering
    @trollerbladdering 11 месяцев назад +22

    I'm only 48 seconds into this video and the production quality was so impressive I had to stop and hit the sub button and type this out.

    • @NerdNest
      @NerdNest  11 месяцев назад +3

      Thank you!

  • @deathtenk
    @deathtenk 10 месяцев назад +4

    thank you for accurately describing Proton. So many people say it's an emulator when that just isn't true. it doesn't emulate any hardware, it's a lightweight translation layer it just translates DX and OpenGL calls to vulkan calls.

    • @NerdNest
      @NerdNest  10 месяцев назад +1

      I think most understand that it isn't actually emulation, but that's the EASIEST way to describe it to someone that knows NOTHING about this stuff.

    • @deathtenk
      @deathtenk 10 месяцев назад +2

      @@NerdNest well for people who actually know nothing about this stuff they just see a box that plays games. going over the nuances of how it all runs would be a waste of time already. I'd rather simplify things and be somewhat accurate then try to describe them and be misleading or wrong.

  • @reethardio6432
    @reethardio6432 11 месяцев назад +13

    just bought a steamdeck yesterday so i can play my games even when my rheumatoid arthritis is flairing up. cant wait till it gets here. your content and fan the deck convinced me to get it

  • @Voughtrazer
    @Voughtrazer 10 месяцев назад +6

    Valve deserves its success and I wholeheartedly hope they thrive.

  • @LukeDupin
    @LukeDupin 10 месяцев назад +2

    I've been a full time Linux daily driver since 2001. I love valve and will support them to the end.

  • @mcdonald8240
    @mcdonald8240 11 месяцев назад +6

    Steam deck is such a groundbreaking device with all the passion Valve and developers put in to get games running

  • @MmntechCa
    @MmntechCa 10 месяцев назад +2

    The Windows Store has always been at the root of Valve's Linux strategy. When Microsoft originally launched it as part of Windows 8, both Gabe Newell and Tim Sweeney (Epic) expressed concerns that Windows would go the walled garden route, as Apple had done with iOS. Valve started working on building up Linux as an alternative, while Epic started work on a new store (EGS) that would be attractive to publishers. Of course Valve's contributions to Linux have drastically improved the OS to the point where it's probably 95% there as a Windows replacement for gaming. Anti-cheat in many online multiplayer titles is really the last barrier. EGS meanwhile is failing because it did nothing to incentivize consumers using it.

  • @emymainor4985
    @emymainor4985 11 месяцев назад +4

    I found this channel @NerdNest this year when I received my Steam Deck back in January this year, and I love all of your content! That aside, Steam Deck is my most played gaming device this year, its awesome!

  • @Ziggurat1
    @Ziggurat1 11 месяцев назад +3

    Congratulations on nailing the pronunciation of "Swen"! Here in Norway we have the most amount of people named by different variations of this very name. Including half of my parents. Now, since Swen Vincke hails from Belgium, I decided to do a bit of detective work. I checked out a clip of him saying his own name and cross-referenced it with your pronunciation. Lo and behold, both you and Swen Vincke himself pronounce it the very same way!
    Swen Vincke, and native speakers across all the Scandinavian nations (I can't vouch for the pronunciation in other Nordic countries, the Low Countries, or Germany) tend to say it more like "Sven," with a "V" sound rather than "W." So, you've got it spot on!

  • @carlthewinner
    @carlthewinner 11 месяцев назад +23

    I ❤ Steam Deck. :)

  • @molsen7549
    @molsen7549 11 месяцев назад +12

    What I've found is that 30 fps on the Deck's small screen doesn't look that bad. If the fps can even hover between 35-40, it makes things noticeably smoother.

    • @misterperson7070
      @misterperson7070 10 месяцев назад +2

      How does that make sense, people are out here complaining about iphone not standardizing >60hz refresh rate and here we are normalizing

    • @valentds
      @valentds 10 месяцев назад +3

      @@misterperson7070 depends on the game. also hz is not = to fps

    • @misterperson7070
      @misterperson7070 10 месяцев назад +1

      @@valentds So fps

    • @apersonontheinternet8006
      @apersonontheinternet8006 10 месяцев назад

      @@misterperson7070 Frame consistency is more important than averages. For example, Elden Ring at 60fps seems to get frame studders in a lot of graphically intense scenes but at 40fps it is buttery smooth. I run almost everything at 40fps and 7 watts just for the sake of battery life; if I want the best graphical experience I just remote play it.

    • @misterperson7070
      @misterperson7070 10 месяцев назад

      @@apersonontheinternet8006 but my point was would you prefet consistent 40fps or 60+fps. I know its 60+ for me

  • @Thee_Dr_Evil
    @Thee_Dr_Evil 11 месяцев назад +12

    Proton is great, but Glorious Eggroll has been huge in bringing fixes much sooner due to the lack of "required" testing that Valve has to deal with. I've enjoyed being able to play a large part of my library on Fedora without any major issues. However until we get to a point where the devs will allow Proton to support anti cheat, we're going to be stifled.

    • @YakultLitro
      @YakultLitro 11 месяцев назад +4

      the power of opensource.. if the main dev is so busy updating their code. community is there to the rescue. something microsoft will never understand.

    • @AbsurdAsparagus
      @AbsurdAsparagus 10 месяцев назад

      @@YakultLitro Microsoft does understand it, they just are greedy and want sole ownership of everything. one day we are gonna learn that these company are just parasites that scam people out of their hard work for the greed of ownership. you receive $50 bucks for every $5000 of profit you bring to the company. Microsoft wants to keep that going. its why they don't want to engage with open source.

    • @nasimfaheemalquadir
      @nasimfaheemalquadir 10 месяцев назад

      Gloriolus Eggroll has their own Linux distro called Nobara OS he also works at Red Hat which im not going to comment on but umm yeah.

    • @Bunuffin
      @Bunuffin 9 месяцев назад

      GE is a redhat dev, he is truly a great dev... He makes it so easy for noobs to get into linux gaming with Nobara, i daily drive it and it's a breeze

    • @YakultLitro
      @YakultLitro 9 месяцев назад

      @@Bunuffin is Nobara also dev friendly? like installing all dev tools for daily work.

  • @imyth4475
    @imyth4475 11 месяцев назад +8

    Was looking at getting a steam deck. Great video, thanks for your take!

  • @WIImotionmasher
    @WIImotionmasher 10 месяцев назад

    First video of yours I've seen (that I remember). I really like your chill and forgiving approach to speaking and writting. You bring up people might think 30FPS is not good enough to play on, but you dont say they're yelling about it or angry. You just say "some people might say, I don't want to play it at 30 fps".
    That kind of level-headed presentation is really appreciated. Thank you.
    I'm subscribed now.

  • @gulapula
    @gulapula 10 месяцев назад

    Wine is the humblest software Ive ever seen. Wine serves a pivotal role in so many Mac and Linux ports, and yet still has an old webpage straight out of the late 2000s.

  • @BrittleScarMusic
    @BrittleScarMusic 11 месяцев назад +3

    I have to admit, I love my steamdeck. After my gaming PC died a sudden death this became my 'gaming pc' and I play more indi games, rarely any massive shooter games (I might ahve one). So runs the games I want perfectly.

  • @iamarawn
    @iamarawn 11 месяцев назад +2

    I just got back from vacation. In the evening, i was playing using the steam deck with headphones and a dualsense controller. So amazing

  • @jamesandersonwalsh
    @jamesandersonwalsh 5 месяцев назад +1

    With the success of the steam deck, I really hope Valve brings back a higher fidelity living room box, or a dock that has an external GPU that can effectively function as a standard console. It’s the last peace missing 🤞

  • @lenowoo
    @lenowoo 10 месяцев назад +1

    the 30% sales cut that actually doing something

  • @TheDaidai05
    @TheDaidai05 11 месяцев назад +9

    I love steam deck and I want valve to know in the future when they make steam deck 2, 3, 4… I’ll buy it

    • @somethingelse401
      @somethingelse401 11 месяцев назад +7

      You mean the two and four? Everyone knows that valve is terrified of the number 3

    • @lindsysdf7308
      @lindsysdf7308 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@somethingelse401lol

    • @misterperson7070
      @misterperson7070 10 месяцев назад +1

      Yea me too. I’m not sacrificing my fps sorry. I’m so sure valve can do 60+ fps on 1080p it’s just a matter of time. Props to everyone supporting the first generation though

    • @TheDaidai05
      @TheDaidai05 10 месяцев назад +1

      Lol I was kinda capping. I just got my steam deck like 1-2 months ago and now the oled is coming out. A little to early for me to go buy an upgrade

    • @TheDaidai05
      @TheDaidai05 10 месяцев назад +1

      @@misterperson7070 Understandable. When it comes to what I actually play on steam deck, I don't even bother much with the newer more demanding titles. Like yeah its cool I can play elden ring on a handheld, but when your battery is gonna die in like 2 hours or less I'd rather just play it on my pc.
      All the games in my backlog from yesteryears like batman arkham knight, ps2 and gamecube emulation, and turn based rpgs is what I actually play on my steam deck that makes it worth it to me.
      Really its the perfect companion device, but if was my only gaming device I would not be so happy with it

  • @carlosmelendez8317
    @carlosmelendez8317 11 месяцев назад +6

    The Steam Deck is amazing! Not perfect but amazing.

  • @upperjohn117aka
    @upperjohn117aka 11 месяцев назад +11

    Valve needs to focus on the popular games so more people feel comfortable using it which adds growth to the user and will eventually bring it to a point where larger games cater to steam deck then they will be able to support smaller studios

    • @or1on89
      @or1on89 10 месяцев назад +9

      Well…Valve is actually doing that. And Valve added support to two major anti-cheat softwares as well. The games who do not run on Deck do not run on Deck because of their publishers/devs. Epic will never allow Deck compatibility and Valve can do nothing about it. And frankly I think this is Epic’s loss…

    • @upperjohn117aka
      @upperjohn117aka 10 месяцев назад

      @@or1on89 i worded poorly i was more supporting what they are doing

  • @kaboomsihal1164
    @kaboomsihal1164 11 месяцев назад

    9:50 lmfao "This is another example of... shit of the exact opposite of what I was saying lemme pivot real quick"

  • @iceburglettuce6940
    @iceburglettuce6940 11 месяцев назад +2

    I had no great expectations when I got my Deck. I bought it as a bit of a novelty expecting it to be useful sometimes to play older games and a bit of emulation.
    Since I got it 6 weeks ago I’ve not started my gaming PC or my Xbox.
    So impressed. I got the 64gb and put in a 1gb SSD and a 256Gb MSD (for emulation storage).
    I’ve been playing Cyberpunk 2.0 at a smooth 60fps on my own medium / low settings (looks great on the small screen), Switch version of Red Dead at 30fps, Mario Odyssey, Crysis 2 and more.

  • @ZaberfangX
    @ZaberfangX 11 месяцев назад +4

    I think even if some dev don't believe the steam deck, is good to target getting their game to work then work out what needs to be change to have good controller playable layout that looks good and run well on a small screen. So everything they learn can work well on the switch fixing it on the deck first less work in the long run with feels and controller layout, even how the game looks on small screen.

  • @cultus_diabolus
    @cultus_diabolus 10 месяцев назад +1

    Never heard of this channel before but only about 60 seconds in I'm hooked. Sometimes the algorithm is good for putting me on to creators like you. Subbed!

    • @NerdNest
      @NerdNest  10 месяцев назад +1

      Thanks for watching

  • @saurabhojha3708
    @saurabhojha3708 10 месяцев назад +1

    General gaming in linux via proton is pretty great, the only change I want is for steam to have the option come with the option of overriding the respective game launchers and play directly (even if it is offline)

    • @AdityaWaghmare
      @AdityaWaghmare 10 месяцев назад

      That will never happen as publishers will simply pull their game out from Steam.

  • @microcolonel
    @microcolonel 10 месяцев назад

    People are mentioning wine and DXVK being part of the success, but another nerdy detail that was important to this story:
    because the Linux kernel does not have stable ABIs for drivers between versions, it is extremely impractical for device vendors to publish proprietary kernel drivers for Linux.
    Through this and a variety of other conditions, it made business sense for AMD to publish adequate documentation to implement drivers, and eventually to publish their kernel drivers as source code and upstream them. They also put significant resources into Mesa with the Radeon and RadeonSI OpenGL drivers. When Vulkan came out, heroic Mesa contributors produced RADV and AMD published AMDVLK...
    ...and because of all of this open source access and the efforts of motivated developers later supported by Codeweavers, Red Hat, and Valve, this AMD/Mesa Linux gaming platform really came together, and enabled the Steam Deck.
    Valve is now supporting work across the whole stack, from the kernel to Mesa to platform libraries like SDL and Wine/Proton, and this access to the whole platform is crucial to their ability to make any of this work.

  • @vilian9185
    @vilian9185 9 месяцев назад +1

    Valve fixed the starfield in the linux direct on the vulkan driver

  • @Rocksteady72a
    @Rocksteady72a 9 месяцев назад

    Between my Portal & Steam Deck, it really feels like a new generation rather than the middle of a continuing generation.

  • @justinp9170
    @justinp9170 11 месяцев назад +2

    It's clear to me that Valve is looking at the long game this time around for Steam OS. And if they keep pushing like this, I can see devs slowly making early development choices for the benefit of making sure a game can also run well on Linux (like choosing Vulkan API over DirectX). And eventually Valve will have to do less and less emergency patching for games to work on Steam Deck. Then Valve can move on to the next phase... reallocating the resources used for patching into launching Steam OS onto desktop.
    I'd love a PC with an OS that puts gaming first, and still flexible enough to get productive work done when needed. 95% of the time I'm firing up Steam, Discord and/or opening the browser. Only a few times I have to work on a spreadsheet or typing a document.

    • @santosic
      @santosic 11 месяцев назад

      a gaming-focused OS would actually be pretty interesting on PC, I'd definitely dabble in that, especially since it'd give me an alternative to Windows that can still play the games I want to play. And if it's still an actual desktop where I can work on the occasional document and the occasional photo edit here and there, that'd be even better. I hope that becomes a thing someday.

  • @nibelungvalesti
    @nibelungvalesti 10 месяцев назад

    One thing to keep in mind is that most devs didn't have to do anything. Proton layer took care of it.

  • @bokidusanic7084
    @bokidusanic7084 9 месяцев назад

    can't believe you don't have million subs yet, quality is top notch

  • @Rick_Ibbott
    @Rick_Ibbott 10 месяцев назад

    I have a games library spanning 20 years. Valve releases a handheld that can run most of these games. The deck was a no brainer for me - PC is still my main but the handheld is there for other times. Ace.

  • @JSmedia918
    @JSmedia918 11 месяцев назад +1

    as a casual gamer, i love the deck. i used to have a razer laptop and got rid of it. i still wanted to game and this hit that spot for me. i game for just a few hours and mostly indie games. they all play great and the battery lasts for hours. during weekends when i might have time to really sit and play, i hook it up to my monitor and i'm good to go. for casual gamers, i cant recommend it enough.

  • @EURIPODES
    @EURIPODES 5 месяцев назад

    This is why I'm thrilled to give my money to Valve. Their competitors like to complain about their market share but they have in no way earned my trust and respect like Gabe and the boys have.

  • @RenegadeBastard
    @RenegadeBastard 11 месяцев назад +23

    This is exactly the reason why Steam Deck bests ALL handheld gaming PCs on the market today. Valve’s support is unmatched.

    • @InitialFailure
      @InitialFailure 10 месяцев назад +1

      Unless you want to play anything that's not "Deck verified" which is the majority of the Steam catalog.
      Or anything not on Steam OS.
      Other than not being able to play the majority of titles that an Ally or Go or whatever windows system can, sure. It's "King".

    • @IceBlueLugia
      @IceBlueLugia 10 месяцев назад +9

      @@InitialFailure There are multiple games marked “unplayable” that seem to work fine on Deck for me. As long as you have tastes beyond just playing mediocre copy-pasted online shooters you should be able to play basically anything.
      ROG Ally and Legion Go don’t have the benefits of SteamOS and the Ally especially controls much worse due to not having trackpads; navigating windows with a controller and touch screen just isn’t great either

    • @nekokinds
      @nekokinds 10 месяцев назад +8

      @@InitialFailure this comment proves nothing and only shows a severe lack of understanding from you lol

    • @flamestoyershadowkill6400
      @flamestoyershadowkill6400 10 месяцев назад

      @@InitialFailure steam os is just linux, if it gets playable on a 1060 on linux it probably is on deck

    • @InitialFailure
      @InitialFailure 10 месяцев назад

      @calicoe can you play the current COD on a steam deck without going through a bunch of other workarounds/programs?

  • @cqllel5186
    @cqllel5186 10 месяцев назад

    Rules #1
    Handheld systems are the only exception for pre-built machines

  • @Azaurus1
    @Azaurus1 8 месяцев назад

    Also reaching the ps4, xbox one benchmark graphics wise is important the current and future games that like that benchmark form handhelds/budget pcs.

  • @jayagusto9409
    @jayagusto9409 11 месяцев назад +2

    I'd love to NEVER have to support Microsoft again. Gabe is 1000 x better for the consumer then Bill "Lolita express" Gates will ever be.

  • @casualjay909
    @casualjay909 11 месяцев назад

    1:19 homie got to let it go 😭

  • @wyvern681
    @wyvern681 11 месяцев назад +1

    Been watching your channel since the steamdeck was announced. Your videos have really been enjoyable the quality of them has really improved lately just wanted to congratulate you on such great work kudos!!

  • @YakultLitro
    @YakultLitro 11 месяцев назад +1

    19:30 so lenovo took the failed design of SD and made it themselves LOL. you can see the design on the right side wall..

  • @puffcap_
    @puffcap_ 10 месяцев назад

    I wasnt aware that proton was non-emulation. I saw wine and I was like ah understood. Thats a crazy amount of work to make an intermediary layer to intercept the api calls

  • @Vinci480
    @Vinci480 9 месяцев назад +1

    While I do agree with most of the video and think its very informative to most people, I think discrediting Mobile/Handheld Gamers as a tiny minority or not a huge audience is just not the truth.
    If we consider Gaming on Phones and Handhelds as Proper Gaming then this just increases the insane powegrip Video games have on the Entertainment industry.
    I know sooo many people in my life, especially often women, who don't really care too much about gaming or are invested deep enough to adjust their life styles to fit it BUT who do love gaming experiences like Animal Crossing, Stardew Valley or Sims for example.
    I think the Steamdeck can do a huge favor into connecting those people with the more core gamers and bride the gap that is often there in these situations.
    Especially if the price is competitive.
    I know quite a few people that would love to game but don't wanna fork out a grand for a PC or hell even 400-600 bucks for a console, especially because they prefer being quite mobile or being at different places (which make laptops even a worse idea since they tend to be more expensive).
    Steamdeck starts to really creep into that field and not only that but also bring almost ALL of the other games that come with that.
    Not only can someone who wants to experience a more chill and relaxed gaming time with games like Stardew Valley, they could also get into games that some of their more invested gaming friends play while having the lowest barrier to start.
    Furthermore if they really get hooked but don't have much disposable income they still could try to play around with it and emulate Nintendo Games (often also with better performance) or focus on instead acquiring new games and just having fun.
    Furthermore it also helps with the more hardcore games with their 1k-4k PCs, by bringing back a huge focus on optimizing games that previously could rely on beefy PCs that could semi bruteforce through stutters and issues.
    With such a limited system, you can't, You NEED to optimize to some extend to get it running properly.
    But if Valve already does the big work for you, then its also much easier to make management divert Resources and Time to optimize and fix some of the more internal issues or have some more attention to making sure that the way the game is made could fit on handheld devices like the Steamdeck.
    Especially concerning Stutters and Memory issues that with the current PC market don't seem to get better.
    On the handheld market, you don't have that luxury.
    So I think its not a market that is small or not worth adressing, just a market that hasn't gotten the love it needed yet and needs a proper warm welcome with the rest of the gaming Sphere so it can grow and become wonderful

  • @jasper265
    @jasper265 11 месяцев назад

    Pronunciation for the founder of Larian Studios's name: Sven Vink-e, Sven basically as you pronounced it, the V like in vet, ink as you would pronounce that word and the final e like the e in batter

  • @Gubers
    @Gubers 10 месяцев назад +1

    Mark my words. Steam Machine will be back. Now that so many people are sold on the Steam Deck and more devs are tuning their games for the SteamOS, I think both devs and PC gamers would be far more likely to try a console-like Steam machine. Just think a Steamdeck with a desktop gaming GPU. I bet a ton of people would buy it. And if they did as well with it as the Steam deck then they might just start taking over the market, eventually having games made just for it or at least for Linux.

  • @buhbuh305
    @buhbuh305 9 месяцев назад

    elden ring really put it into perspective with how much work they put into improving their os when i first tried it on steam deck id get 40-50 fps usually around 40 with lows to 30 fps. when i play now its a constant 60 fps now whenever i have a spare 30 minutes i add an extra 15 deaths to mohg

  • @InitialDL84
    @InitialDL84 11 месяцев назад +2

    I love my Steam Deck to play all the indie games and older AA/AAA titles. I feeel like its the most perfect for indie games. Ill play the more newer/graphics heavy stuff on my PS5.

  • @xMRxLAMAx
    @xMRxLAMAx 10 месяцев назад

    I’ve been very excited about Valve’s efforts to get away from the desk and chair(big picture mode), to get away from mouse and keyboard(steam controller), to get away from playing games on windows(steamos), it sure is something seeing their efforts that people said were failures come together into what the steam deck is and have it be so successful.
    I just put windows on my steam deck.

  • @f00fightrs
    @f00fightrs 11 месяцев назад +2

    Off topic, but can you tell us your camera/lens combo for your vids? I watch all your vids and all I’m thinking is how crystal clear and sharp you look with the buttery smooth bokeh in the background. You’ve nailed the perfect combo for your vids/podcast. Anyway, really love your content in addition to the group podcast sessions.

    • @NerdNest
      @NerdNest  11 месяцев назад

      It’s linked in the gear section of my description.

  • @harryshuman9637
    @harryshuman9637 10 месяцев назад

    Gabe is the best thing that happened to PC gaming industry in the past 15 years.

  • @LagiohX3
    @LagiohX3 11 месяцев назад +1

    5:30 I am sorry but when steam deck was released it was cutting edge hardware atleast gpu wise. It's the same tech that was given to PS5 and Xbox. And there was no other way to get an RDNA APU for a while.

    • @NerdNest
      @NerdNest  11 месяцев назад +1

      While you’re not wrong, it was also a good deal slower than other hardware people currently play games on. (except the switch) and because of that I say outdated. Perhaps I should have said less powerful.

  • @ShredzZ
    @ShredzZ 11 месяцев назад +2

    Bought my steam deck 3 weeks ago, I’m impressed how this budget mobile pc works, only hope they will not release deck 2 in next year 😅

    • @DeterminedTorres
      @DeterminedTorres 11 месяцев назад +1

      It’ll be a few years away, so you’re good!

    • @doggy101
      @doggy101 10 месяцев назад

      oh boy

  • @naointeressa2251
    @naointeressa2251 10 месяцев назад

    Steam Deck to Nvidia Shield: hold my bear

  • @rightwingsafetysquad9872
    @rightwingsafetysquad9872 9 месяцев назад

    Valve is right to be worried about the Windows Store. The only thing holding it back is reputation. I haven't noticed a meaningful difference between it and the Mac App Store in several years.

  • @DarkSiege2
    @DarkSiege2 10 месяцев назад

    That Wow Steam deck mod looks sick. I need that.

  • @manuelkimpel3788
    @manuelkimpel3788 10 месяцев назад

    Only gods can run windows games on a Linux based operating system. And Gabe Newell is our PC gaming god who made this happen.
    Thank you for the video! :)

  • @YakultLitro
    @YakultLitro 11 месяцев назад

    on 12:43 but Todd Howard of bethesda said we just need to upgrade our hardware to 4090gtx lol

  • @SaneintheBrain
    @SaneintheBrain 11 месяцев назад +1

    the clones AD was funny af

    • @NerdNest
      @NerdNest  11 месяцев назад

      Thanks! It was fun to make.

  • @valentds
    @valentds 10 месяцев назад

    valve: we failed... successfully

  • @IceBlueLugia
    @IceBlueLugia 10 месяцев назад

    I just locked the fps to 45 on my Steam Deck OLED and haven’t had any issues

  • @DaleTwokey
    @DaleTwokey 10 месяцев назад

    No, Valve didn't "figure out" the most important API calls.
    Wine team did. Vavle did improve wine significantly to make Proton work, but they didn't "figure it out".

  • @TheFrantic5
    @TheFrantic5 11 месяцев назад +1

    I'm having fun trying to get dumb stuff to run on the deck, but it's too easy. The other day I got nostalgic and installed DevilutionX and threw in a rip of my original Diablo 1 CD, and it just works, and has built-in gamepad controls.

  • @tomzpl
    @tomzpl 11 месяцев назад

    would be more interesting if you'd tell story of philip rebohle and dxvk

  • @tamertamertamer4874
    @tamertamertamer4874 10 месяцев назад

    11:13
    Me: doesn’t own any handheld pc but I do have a Nintendo switch

  • @MasterPJ86
    @MasterPJ86 10 месяцев назад

    In the last couple of years Valve has done more for the gamers, the consumers, the hardware and software under Linux environment than anybody else in the last 2 decades. They are a true blessing for the gaming and Linux World.

  • @Carewolf
    @Carewolf 10 месяцев назад

    The original Dark Soul itself ran at 30fps. So it isn't that big of a problem. It is infact the origin of the genre.

  • @M3rce6
    @M3rce6 11 месяцев назад

    I just bought mine today and install dark souls 3 running on 60 fps with medium and low settings and 30 fps lock on high quality when the framerate set to 30 fps so satisfying

  • @RabbitConfirmed
    @RabbitConfirmed 10 месяцев назад

    Valve could be in charge of this world, and I wouldn't mind.

  • @soniclycruedrecords8212
    @soniclycruedrecords8212 11 месяцев назад

    just came across your videos for the first time, very informal and fun. Keep up the good work boss!

  • @zipkitty
    @zipkitty 10 месяцев назад

    The only mistake that Valve made with the Deck is targeting AAA players with their ads. I know why they did it, they wanted it to be a success. This is the ideal system for emulating older games, playing smaller games and playing with other people on the go with a couple of controllers.

  • @Lando43
    @Lando43 11 месяцев назад +1

    Lies of P plays like butter on the steam deck. All high Settings and I get 45+ fps. a lot of the times i get a stable 50-60

  • @mechanicalmonk2020
    @mechanicalmonk2020 11 месяцев назад

    Pierre Loup is staring into our souls in that video

  • @GarydeBrown
    @GarydeBrown 10 месяцев назад

    The PS Portal hate is fascinating af to me. I have the Oled SD, the ROG Ally and the portal and I *love* the Portal. All these “substitute solutions” do not come close matching the Portal experience at all. If you hate the Portal it’s because your internet sucks or you don’t know how to properly set it up. After the latest software update, it performs even better than at launch.

  • @raycasta10
    @raycasta10 11 месяцев назад +1

    I think rn the devs r not underestimating the power of the steam deck. Definitely the proton files helped, i rmbr when i booted up madden for the first time, it was so stuttery. Then suddenly a few weeks after, the game runs smoooth.

  • @Teisharocz
    @Teisharocz 10 месяцев назад

    All I want to do is play 7dtd, lol! Not perfect on SD, but I'm getting there. Building is hard!

  • @QuestionableLifeChoices
    @QuestionableLifeChoices 10 месяцев назад

    I feel like valve/steam is the embodiment of "if we build it, they will come" lmao

  • @espiya5557
    @espiya5557 11 месяцев назад +1

    If ever Microsoft starts to make their store good, Epic Store will be in trouble. They either become like EA that becomes a third-party launcher for Microsoft Store or ride with Valve for Linux support.

  • @elmergloo3259
    @elmergloo3259 10 месяцев назад

    I got the OLED Steam Deck and I was surprised to see that Overwatch 2 now is playable from Steam directly. It runs at 90fps for 3 hours on battery and WiFi 6 gives it better network latency. I dual booted into Windows and Windows estimates the idle battery life is around 10 hours. This might not be the most powerful device out there, but the power efficiency is unbelievable considering what it can do.

  • @Bumble-d1e
    @Bumble-d1e 10 месяцев назад

    What the heck your content is way to good for that sub count you deserve a milli

  • @thepatriotsfan7127
    @thepatriotsfan7127 5 месяцев назад

    I remember when everyone shat on Valve when they unveiled Artifact back in 2017
    Oh how the turntables