I just found out that our county had a tax on horses and cows. If we want a family milk cow, we may have to pay the local tax collector for the privilege to own one.
I am in California and used to work in a feed store. If we sold a bale of hay to someone with a horse, it was taxed(luxury), If it was for a cow, considered food, no tax. If we sold rabbit food and it was for bunnies(luxury) it would be taxed, if it was for rabbits(food), no tax. We had our own “system”, everyone had horses for pulling plows, cows were for food and rabbits were in the food category, the assessor needed to make the distinction. They never came around. Worked very well, easy for us, customer happy, assessor none the wiser.
We had siniliar back in Florida. If you bought fertilizer or bagged soil, there was no tax if for vegetables, but there was if you were using it for flowers. lol
@@DJPLAST2 That is so interesting! Loopholes can be your best friend. Our cows will indeed be emotional support animals. Look at me. Can’t stop crying. I need a cow. 😭👀
Taxing people who have capacity to pay is how governments pay for things like roads that everyone or at least most people need. It's not the tax that is the problem - it's when they tax people who can't afford it, because the people who can afford to pay a lot more tax can also afford to pay accountants or just bribe politicians to let them avoid paying taxes. We need to tax the rich. Every country in the world needs to tax the rich.
And don't even think about cutting down your trees to get out of paying your timber tax because they will say that you made an improvement by changing the looks of your property and you'll be taxed even more. Try replacing your worn out shingles, improvement. Did they devalue your old shingles for each year they got older, No, so you're basically being double taxed every time you reroof your house. Same goes if you scrape the old peeling paint and repaint the house, improvement, more tax. Forget about throwing tea in the water, they all need the same treatment the ruling elite got during the French revolution, after the stuff hits the fan when we all have nothing left to lose that is.
Not really if you do not paint wood property value goes down because wood will rot, maintaining the wood by painting does not improve the property value it just prevents rotting.
@@albertutrecht9627 You're stating a fact. The same fact as shingles getting old but around here the appraiser doesn't take it off, just calls any maintenance an "improvement" and we get screwed,-Again.
@@georgeh431 Great point! Bartering is how we got two of our sheep and many other goods and services throughout the years. It helps to have a skill you can offer people to barter with for goods.
@AProAmature There is no cash money involved in trading your truck's spare tire for a floor jack with your neighbor. No sales tax on bartering! However, if the guy trading a tire for a floor Jake was in the business of selling tires, then maybe he would have to pay a tax on inventory exchange. But, since it was his own spare tire and not the business inventory, it wouldn't be taxable.
In one area, they taxed fields, and pastures. A pasture is a fenced in area. A field is unfenced. But both are taxed. And, adding insult to injury, woods were also taxed. So, I'm not sure what property does not have an additional tax.
They also have a tax on rain. Rain produces grass in the fields that horses, cows, and bulls eat. If you collect rain water, it's is taxed as irrigation water that grows crops.
Everyone's gone crazy with raising prices on everything, even our local municalities. Time to actually attend the local township board meetings, perhaps?
Where I live (Texas) we get a tax exemption for livestock. Check into that, could you might too. Especially since the lady said she didn’t know about that.
Also, go for 2nd opinions or appeals. More often than not, a higher up has better understanding and can over rule an underling's judgement. (Or vice versa).
They dont want you to be successful.If you were they would have to compete againts you and its just way easier to use the laws that they wrote to steal everything you own.
Do they tax women who have given birth for the breast milk they produce? Maybe they could tax men if they donate sperm or women if the donate an egg. Rattlesnake venom could be used medicinal purposes so they could tax snakes. My sister raised bees so should they tax them for the honey they produce?
@@RealOutdoorLiving “Easier to live” is a good way to describe it. By taxing cows, they’re taxing a family’s ability to feed themselves and live a more self-reliant lifestyle.
Carbon Tax is taxation of the air we breathe. The reason they want to introduce digital currencies is so that they can tax every single transaction, every transaction will at a minimum pay sales tax, I'm sure bartering will make a come back.
The revenue from the income generating cow (which now constitutes a business) is always offset by the expenses of generating that income - keep that accounting concept in mind at all times.... And I believe most farmers or other similar operations either net even or generate losses. ... never paying any taxes. Or at least the corn and apple farmers wife that used to sit next to me at work never ever paid any income taxes (thus making it nearly impossible for them to get any bank loans....they have to go to these private lenders that charge really high interest rates). Same with another lady at same workplace that used to own fruit orchards..... They also get a ton of exemptions and subsidies -- they come out alright in the end. A couple of vacations annually.....
Taxes are supposed to be paid on a GAIN. People don't know your WAGES, you are paid at a job is really NOT taxable -it is a trade you are giving hours of your life in exchange for money. Now property tax is different. Now you buy a car for 500 and sell it for 1000, you are supposed to pay a tax on the gain of 500 Welcome to the world of taxes, EVERYTHING is double, triple....... taxed.
@@MississippiHomesteadJourney The funny thing is that no one does that around here that I personally know of, except the tax collector. She even said most people probably don’t do it. Our county is the poorest county in the state and we’re pretty much ignored (which I like!) but this was definitely unexpected.
What income do horses generate, for horse meat (dog food)? Glue? Riding? I am betting that they tax you on the items because they are typically "income generating" even if you don't generate income from them. Like if you have chickens to provide eggs for your family and they tax you as income generating. We need to push for eliminating property taxes, nobody should lose their property because they can't afford property taxes (that always go up).
Amendment 4 - “The Right to Privacy” The government can't tax personal property. That includes persons, houses, papers, things, and effects. Or, your dog and cat. They can't get a warrant for having property. Having property isn't illegal. Invasion of privacy is illegal. Taxing your personal property is an invasion of privacy. Don't offer any information to the government. They will tax you out of house and home and not give it another thought.
@@georgeh431 I’ll be sure to tell the sheriff that as he serves me eviction papers for not paying my property taxes 😜 Unfortunately, the government can and does tax personal property, which I believe is morally wrong and a great way to pit the people against them.
My animals don't generate income until they're sold. So they can't be taxed before that. And after they're sold, generating income, I don't own them so I don't pay tax on them. ;-)
If you have sales tax in your area, show them the bill and taxes you paid for the building material to build the shed, home, barn, etc. I don't know how a house is considered income generating. Cows are for your personal fresh meat and milk. If you had a dairy farm, it could be taxable income. But, for personal use such as a vegetable garden, animals are not taxable. Property taxes is the plot of land that you own, not the persons, houses, papers, and effects.
@@georgeh431 The house is part of “real” taxes which is separate from “personal property” taxes. Real taxes would include: house and any improvements to the property that increase its value (shed, barn, paved road, etc.) Personal property is: trailer, cars, ATV, livestock, etc. I spoke with the tax assessor again and she said all male cows of a mature age (which she didn’t know what the age technically was) were taxable. They just trust the farmers to declare how many bulls of mature age they have and tax them accordingly. I asked would one dairy cow be therefore exempt? And she said “no”, that even one dairy cow is taxed as personal property even though it is not male. She also said laying hens are taxed, but couldn’t find that in the document that tells what our tax code is (I read the entire document; it says all livestock is taxable, but my state may or may not make a distinction between livestock and poultry. It is unclear). A veggie garden is not taxable, however if I were to run a business selling garden goods, I am pretty sure they’d find a way to tax that. The one silver lining is that she told me we do get a $500 homestead tax credit when we have a house. Once we build, we need to go in the office, fill out a form, and we’ll have $500 taken off our yearly tax bill.
@miscellaneousme It is sickening that the government is laying claim to your property and extorting money from you over, and over, and over, etc.. I would not claim anything to them and post "NO TREASPASSING" signs. A flyover would be purposely searching your property, and that would be illegal. Even though they can see it, they would still be purposely searching your property without a warrant. Having houses, papers, things, and effects is not illegal. Getting a warrent to search your property for having property would be laughed out of any court in this land. Say no to extortion.
The only thing it is just to tax is the capacity to pay. If you sell a cow, that's income, and you should be taxed on that income. Taxing an "asset" that isn't generating income is just a sideways way to force low-income people out of owning assets that might make their life easier - like a cow that makes milk for the family to drink but isn't generating cash income. Or land taxes on a family home they've inherited when nobody in the family has had the income that is typical for that area in the past hundred years. Being taxed on the perceived sale value of something you're not selling is just theft. Taxing expenditure is another valid way to tax people, because you can't spend money unless you have income, and it's a way to tax undeclared income such as people who work for cash in hand. A balance between income tax and expenditure tax is a good plan.
@@tealkerberus748 That’s a great point that taxing assets people aren’t making money from making no sense. I am not entirely familiar with alternatives to taxation, as that is something I need to explore further. I understand that taxation does pay for public roads, the fire dept, the police dept, public parks, etc, and I’m so grateful for those things. Maybe (big “maybe”) I’d be more happy with taxation if it was limited to services like those and I could see the gov wasn’t spending it on things that are completely inappropriate like foreign powers or companies that have no business getting our tax dollars. And the ridiculous salaries of people who are supposedly representing us. In any case, it needs to be completely reformed, but corruption and greed are insidious weeds that aren’t easily uprooted. At least not without a whole lot of upset to the surrounding ground (I.e. war or some such event). Just my two (admittedly very uninformed) cents. Thanks for your thoughts.
@@miscellaneousme The alternative to taxation is for the government to own a bunch of income-producing assets of its own. But the easy assets for governments to own are things like gas fields that we really don't want the government to depend on for income, because what we want is for the government to shut down fossil fuels. Also, the "no taxation without representation" thing goes both ways - our right to a say in how the government spends our money derives from the fact that that's our taxes they're spending. So we need every citizen to be paying tax .. it just needs to be tax levied on the basis of the individual's capacity to pay, so that it doesn't cause injustice like forcing someone to sell their home because they can't afford the taxes they're being charged on it.
Good for you to call attention to this. It's important before buying land to contact the authorities and get at least a rough idea what counts as improvements and how it could ultimately impacct the property tax bill -- expecially for homesteaders who are more likely to scout out raw land and make massive changes vs. house shoppers who buy a house and just move in. I'm sure you're not comfortable revealing it, but I'm also sure we'd all lkie to know what county this is -- so we can all steer clear! (plus they should be called out if all you say is true. Start attending those town meetings young lady!)
@@morning...morning Great point on doing your due diligence before moving to a new place. That’s very wise advice, especially for people who have never purchased anything before and don’t know much about what that all entails. I did more digging into my county’s tax laws and found that we also get a $500 homestead tax credit, which is a big positive about our area. And you are correct that, for privacy’s sake, I won’t say where I’m located exactly, but I’m sure if people take your advice, any place they decide to move to will have been thoroughly researched. Knowledge is power. Thanks for your comment!
You voted in the Republicans who represents you by raising your taxes. Oh yes they lowered them for 1 year & the raised them by doubling them plus gave the rich a even bigger tax break each & every year.
I don't know where you live but I have never heard of those taxes. I heard that Massachusetts is bad for that from what my son has told me. I think I would move to a better state if you could.
Yeah, they'll tax anything that generates income. How else are you gonna help out paying your fair share? I pay tax on my job income, my stock portfolio value (plus the dividens, if they come from a foreign company that I own stock in), and on my electricity bill (because that COULD be used to mine bitcoin). What's so strange about that? You wanna cheat the system and not help anyone out, after having been given a free grade school education and all these paved roads going everywhere?
Hey dope, in reference to "taxes" do you now understand why CASH IS KING and using digital payment gimmicks is a bad idea? Furthermore, can you figure out why not fighting the DIGITAL CURRENCY agenda will be further enslavement of the masses, especially if it's "programmable", try to contemplate that concept momentarily. It's quite an epiphany for Millennials when they finally realize how life works.
First of all, who the hell are you calling a dope? Calm down. Second of all, if you knew us, we are against digital currency and the direction it is taking. Stop making assumptions and making a fool of yourself. As a millennial, I am amazed how the previous generation allowed a bunch of stupid things to happen to this country and to their families. They blame the kids yet don’t blame themselves for raising those kids.
@@leohernandezcolonful the sad thing is I don't believe you were asking me a rhetorical question, but quite possibly demonstrated my point; that is not having the ability to figure out who I'm referring to as a dope!?! Your generation is generally a disgrace and you people whine too much, suck it up buttercup. Trophies for just showing up, play dates and helicopter parents contributed to your generation being completely underwhelming.
@@criticalinfrastructurepart1959 I guess I wasn’t clear; don’t call her a dope. To my point, you make an assumption without actually knowing me or my family. We don’t participate in that nonsense that some of the previous generation implemented. We work hard for our stuff and ask no one for anything. Questioning taxation is not whining and if you think it is, you have a problem. You blame millennials for being weak but from what I gather, it was your generation that raised them. So reap what you sowed. Fortunately for me, I was raised with that crap and know how to get ahead in life without asking for handouts.
@@criticalinfrastructurepart1959 Methinks you are misplacing your apparent anger of millennials and their alleged enthusiasm of digital currency onto my humble little video of taxes on cows. I am unsure of where exactly I gave the impression I was anti-cash and pro-digital currency (which is what to you: credit and debit cards? Crypto? You failed to specify), but I suspect you didn’t put your listening ears on and just spoke hastily (and unnecessarily aggressively) in order to be heard. But whadda I know? I’m just a dope 😉
@@miscellaneousme It's not anger since I have no invested interest in you or your ilk, but as an aside it doesn't surprise me why you're "unsure", which is why the salutation is indeed accurate. My "listening ears" were in fact "on", but it seems your inability to make logical connections are apparently loose?! Hey, good luck with the 'hobby farm' or eventual conversion to 'commercial farm' because you'll never be considered a "homesteader" due to the fact that nowhere in this country allows for the outright ownership of land in either freehold or allodial title for that matter, you'll always be TENANTS. Cheers emoji hieroglypher!
I never heard of such a thing as taxing personal livestock, I think she may be overstating taxes that are meant for cattle ranches. If you want a family milk cow, get 1, but if you get 3-4, they know it's not for personal family milking because you can't drink 4-6 gallons of milk a day. Noticed she also said she couldn't find her county listed on this website. I pay taxes every year for my home and 1 acre on a house I outright own. Seems to me I pay rent on my own property but have never found a way around it and she won't either. She knew there were taxes when she bought it, so my sympathy for her plight is somewhat muted.
@@raymondlong3024 Yes, I did know I’d have to pay property taxes. I didn’t realize that they increase the property taxes for things like paved roads, garden sheds, and whatever else falls under the umbrella of “property improvement”. It makes sense now (I still think it is wrong for them to do that), but I didn’t know all the things that increase my tax bill until I called the tax collector and got specifics.
some states have ported the professional farmer taxation over to the hobbiest side. because you have the opportunity to sell something, defacto a business.. unfortunately, it takes a mass of people to push back the crazy and most of us are too busy to bring normalcy to governance.
2 cows will allow you to have milk year around (one calf every six months). Depending on the size of your family 3 or 4 cows is probably a very sensible number. ADDITIONALLY, you can freeze-dry excess milk and keep it in hermetically sealed containers in you larder -- for, like, decades. Butter can be pressure canned and is shelf-stable for years. The only fly in this ointment is, of course, all the baby cows. If you sell them, then that's income I suppose. But, as someone already mentioned, It does cost something to maintain living assets (whether animal, vegetable, insect, bacteria or whatever else) and those costs can be deducted (I assume -- definitely not a tax advisor here). As long as you walk that fine liine between income and outlay, you're probably fine.
@@davidphillips3953 I agree with your point that it must be ignorance to the reality that causes people to make poor decisions when electing representatives. I wasn’t surprised that I have to pay tax in general, as taxes are a given. I was surprised as to the specifics of what increases my property taxes (I.e. paved road and a small garden shed) and things that are taxed as personal property like cows and horses.
I am in California and used to work in a feed store. If we sold a bale of hay to someone with a horse, it was taxed(luxury), If it was for a cow, considered food, no tax. If we sold rabbit food and it was for bunnies(luxury) it would be taxed, if it was for rabbits(food), no tax. We had our own “system”, everyone had horses for pulling plows, cows were for food and rabbits were in the food category, the assessor needed to make the distinction. They never came around. Worked very well, easy for us, customer happy, assessor none the wiser.
We had siniliar back in Florida. If you bought fertilizer or bagged soil, there was no tax if for vegetables, but there was if you were using it for flowers. lol
@@DJPLAST2 That is so interesting! Loopholes can be your best friend. Our cows will indeed be emotional support animals. Look at me. Can’t stop crying. I need a cow. 😭👀
Why Georgist land tax to control the big landowners is necessary, especially to control inflation.
Taxation is one our country's biggest problems. Government can't stop taking money from the people.
Taxing people who have capacity to pay is how governments pay for things like roads that everyone or at least most people need. It's not the tax that is the problem - it's when they tax people who can't afford it, because the people who can afford to pay a lot more tax can also afford to pay accountants or just bribe politicians to let them avoid paying taxes.
We need to tax the rich. Every country in the world needs to tax the rich.
Soon they will tax the air and sunshine.
@@IslandRainmaker I wouldn’t put it past ‘em!
@@miscellaneousme Look at the word "deeming" when it comes to the tax man.
Hahaha you dont have air Tax ??? Look at Austria Tax laws
They already do, green aganda
Its such a mess. Now i understand why people are not motivated to improve their property or may mot be fiscally able.
@@Julesbc1234 It’s hard not to be negative about the situation. The government will always try to stick its hand in the citizens’ pockets. It’s crazy!
So much for Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness (AKA Property).
@@drmcgee2000 We certainly have come a far way from where our country was supposedly founded from.
And don't even think about cutting down your trees to get out of paying your timber tax because they will say that you made an improvement by changing the looks of your property and you'll be taxed even more. Try replacing your worn out shingles, improvement. Did they devalue your old shingles for each year they got older, No, so you're basically being double taxed every time you reroof your house. Same goes if you scrape the old peeling paint and repaint the house, improvement, more tax. Forget about throwing tea in the water, they all need the same treatment the ruling elite got during the French revolution, after the stuff hits the fan when we all have nothing left to lose that is.
Not really if you do not paint wood property value goes down because wood will rot, maintaining the wood by painting does not improve the property value it just prevents rotting.
@@albertutrecht9627 You're stating a fact. The same fact as shingles getting old but around here the appraiser doesn't take it off, just calls any maintenance an "improvement" and we get screwed,-Again.
They have to prove that it's income. Bartering is not taxable.
@@georgeh431 Great point! Bartering is how we got two of our sheep and many other goods and services throughout the years. It helps to have a skill you can offer people to barter with for goods.
Last I heard, when you barter, the government wants both parties to pay sales tax on the items they swapped. Maybe I heard wrong, hopefully.
@AProAmature There is no cash money involved in trading your truck's spare tire for a floor jack with your neighbor. No sales tax on bartering! However, if the guy trading a tire for a floor Jake was in the business of selling tires, then maybe he would have to pay a tax on inventory exchange. But, since it was his own spare tire and not the business inventory, it wouldn't be taxable.
@@georgeh431 Good to know. Thank you.
I've been hearing a lot of things that don't seem to be true. I need to get better sources.
you never own your property, the government just lets you maintain it for them.
That is so true.
@@jaxbeachnats5148 For a yearly fee, of course
Property tax if the fist thing we need to get rid of.
In one area, they taxed fields, and pastures. A pasture is a fenced in area. A field is unfenced. But both are taxed. And, adding insult to injury, woods were also taxed. So, I'm not sure what property does not have an additional tax.
They also have a tax on rain. Rain produces grass in the fields that horses, cows, and bulls eat. If you collect rain water, it's is taxed as irrigation water that grows crops.
Welcome to the land of the free. A place designed so that you can never be free of debt. At least they manage our tax dollars well 😃
@@FatGuyinaLittleWoods At least 😂
Time for the people to end this BS
Everyone's gone crazy with raising prices on everything, even our local municalities. Time to actually attend the local township board meetings, perhaps?
Where I live (Texas) we get a tax exemption for livestock. Check into that, could you might too. Especially since the lady said she didn’t know about that.
@@staceymedler9213 I’ll see if I can get that information. Thanks!
Also, go for 2nd opinions or appeals. More often than not, a higher up has better understanding and can over rule an underling's judgement. (Or vice versa).
@@ohasis8331 Good point!
Every penny eventually becomes taxes.
Sales tax, city taxes, state taxes, federal taxes. Nothing left for you
Purchase taxes.
They dont want you to be successful.If you were they would have to compete againts you and its just way easier to use the laws that they wrote to steal everything you own.
Do they tax women who have given birth for the breast milk they produce? Maybe they could tax men if they donate sperm or women if the donate an egg. Rattlesnake venom could be used medicinal purposes so they could tax snakes. My sister raised bees so should they tax them for the honey they produce?
Check out the line items on your phone, power, and internet bills....
That’s ridiculous. Hopefully one day someone will fix this problem and make it easier to live. But who knows.
@@RealOutdoorLiving “Easier to live” is a good way to describe it. By taxing cows, they’re taxing a family’s ability to feed themselves and live a more self-reliant lifestyle.
Carbon Tax is taxation of the air we breathe. The reason they want to introduce digital currencies is so that they can tax every single transaction, every transaction will at a minimum pay sales tax, I'm sure bartering will make a come back.
The revenue from the income generating cow (which now constitutes a business) is always offset by the expenses of generating that income - keep that accounting concept in mind at all times....
And I believe most farmers or other similar operations either net even or generate losses. ... never paying any taxes. Or at least the corn and apple farmers wife that used to sit next to me at work never ever paid any income taxes (thus making it nearly impossible for them to get any bank loans....they have to go to these private lenders that charge really high interest rates).
Same with another lady at same workplace that used to own fruit orchards.....
They also get a ton of exemptions and subsidies -- they come out alright in the end. A couple of vacations annually.....
Taxes are supposed to be paid on a GAIN. People don't know your WAGES, you are paid at a job is really NOT taxable -it is a trade you are giving hours of your life in exchange for money. Now property tax is different.
Now you buy a car for 500 and sell it for 1000, you are supposed to pay a tax on the gain of 500
Welcome to the world of taxes, EVERYTHING is double, triple....... taxed.
Land of the free, home of the brave.
You live in the wrong county and State. Remember it's better to beg forgiveness than ask for permission. lol
@@MississippiHomesteadJourney The funny thing is that no one does that around here that I personally know of, except the tax collector. She even said most people probably don’t do it. Our county is the poorest county in the state and we’re pretty much ignored (which I like!) but this was definitely unexpected.
What income do horses generate, for horse meat (dog food)? Glue? Riding?
I am betting that they tax you on the items because they are typically "income generating" even if you don't generate income from them. Like if you have chickens to provide eggs for your family and they tax you as income generating. We need to push for eliminating property taxes, nobody should lose their property because they can't afford property taxes (that always go up).
@@sethhill5689 I agree. And no one should have to pay continuous taxes for something they are supposed to own. That isn’t actually ownership!
Amendment 4 - “The Right to Privacy”
The government can't tax personal property. That includes persons, houses, papers, things, and effects. Or, your dog and cat.
They can't get a warrant for having property. Having property isn't illegal. Invasion of privacy is illegal. Taxing your personal property is an invasion of privacy. Don't offer any information to the government. They will tax you out of house and home and not give it another thought.
@@georgeh431 I’ll be sure to tell the sheriff that as he serves me eviction papers for not paying my property taxes 😜 Unfortunately, the government can and does tax personal property, which I believe is morally wrong and a great way to pit the people against them.
My animals don't generate income until they're sold. So they can't be taxed before that. And after they're sold, generating income, I don't own them so I don't pay tax on them. ;-)
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If you have sales tax in your area, show them the bill and taxes you paid for the building material to build the shed, home, barn, etc. I don't know how a house is considered income generating. Cows are for your personal fresh meat and milk. If you had a dairy farm, it could be taxable income. But, for personal use such as a vegetable garden, animals are not taxable. Property taxes is the plot of land that you own, not the persons, houses, papers, and effects.
@@georgeh431 The house is part of “real” taxes which is separate from “personal property” taxes. Real taxes would include: house and any improvements to the property that increase its value (shed, barn, paved road, etc.)
Personal property is: trailer, cars, ATV, livestock, etc.
I spoke with the tax assessor again and she said all male cows of a mature age (which she didn’t know what the age technically was) were taxable. They just trust the farmers to declare how many bulls of mature age they have and tax them accordingly. I asked would one dairy cow be therefore exempt? And she said “no”, that even one dairy cow is taxed as personal property even though it is not male. She also said laying hens are taxed, but couldn’t find that in the document that tells what our tax code is (I read the entire document; it says all livestock is taxable, but my state may or may not make a distinction between livestock and poultry. It is unclear).
A veggie garden is not taxable, however if I were to run a business selling garden goods, I am pretty sure they’d find a way to tax that.
The one silver lining is that she told me we do get a $500 homestead tax credit when we have a house. Once we build, we need to go in the office, fill out a form, and we’ll have $500 taken off our yearly tax bill.
@miscellaneousme Personal property, houses, papers, things, and effects are protected under the Bill of Rights Amendment 4 - “The Right to Privacy”
@miscellaneousme It is sickening that the government is laying claim to your property and extorting money from you over, and over, and over, etc.. I would not claim anything to them and post "NO TREASPASSING" signs. A flyover would be purposely searching your property, and that would be illegal. Even though they can see it, they would still be purposely searching your property without a warrant. Having houses, papers, things, and effects is not illegal. Getting a warrent to search your property for having property would be laughed out of any court in this land. Say no to extortion.
The only thing it is just to tax is the capacity to pay. If you sell a cow, that's income, and you should be taxed on that income. Taxing an "asset" that isn't generating income is just a sideways way to force low-income people out of owning assets that might make their life easier - like a cow that makes milk for the family to drink but isn't generating cash income. Or land taxes on a family home they've inherited when nobody in the family has had the income that is typical for that area in the past hundred years. Being taxed on the perceived sale value of something you're not selling is just theft.
Taxing expenditure is another valid way to tax people, because you can't spend money unless you have income, and it's a way to tax undeclared income such as people who work for cash in hand. A balance between income tax and expenditure tax is a good plan.
@@tealkerberus748 That’s a great point that taxing assets people aren’t making money from making no sense. I am not entirely familiar with alternatives to taxation, as that is something I need to explore further. I understand that taxation does pay for public roads, the fire dept, the police dept, public parks, etc, and I’m so grateful for those things.
Maybe (big “maybe”) I’d be more happy with taxation if it was limited to services like those and I could see the gov wasn’t spending it on things that are completely inappropriate like foreign powers or companies that have no business getting our tax dollars. And the ridiculous salaries of people who are supposedly representing us.
In any case, it needs to be completely reformed, but corruption and greed are insidious weeds that aren’t easily uprooted. At least not without a whole lot of upset to the surrounding ground (I.e. war or some such event).
Just my two (admittedly very uninformed) cents. Thanks for your thoughts.
@@miscellaneousme The alternative to taxation is for the government to own a bunch of income-producing assets of its own. But the easy assets for governments to own are things like gas fields that we really don't want the government to depend on for income, because what we want is for the government to shut down fossil fuels.
Also, the "no taxation without representation" thing goes both ways - our right to a say in how the government spends our money derives from the fact that that's our taxes they're spending.
So we need every citizen to be paying tax .. it just needs to be tax levied on the basis of the individual's capacity to pay, so that it doesn't cause injustice like forcing someone to sell their home because they can't afford the taxes they're being charged on it.
Greetings from Sweden. We are dying over here.
So what ?? That Sounds pretty normal to a European.
@@user-nj1pu9qv8v Normal does not equal good. Reminds me of a story about a frog in a pot of hot water…
Good for you to call attention to this. It's important before buying land to contact the authorities and get at least a rough idea what counts as improvements and how it could ultimately impacct the property tax bill -- expecially for homesteaders who are more likely to scout out raw land and make massive changes vs. house shoppers who buy a house and just move in.
I'm sure you're not comfortable revealing it, but I'm also sure we'd all lkie to know what county this is -- so we can all steer clear! (plus they should be called out if all you say is true. Start attending those town meetings young lady!)
@@morning...morning Great point on doing your due diligence before moving to a new place. That’s very wise advice, especially for people who have never purchased anything before and don’t know much about what that all entails.
I did more digging into my county’s tax laws and found that we also get a $500 homestead tax credit, which is a big positive about our area. And you are correct that, for privacy’s sake, I won’t say where I’m located exactly, but I’m sure if people take your advice, any place they decide to move to will have been thoroughly researched. Knowledge is power. Thanks for your comment!
Taxation without representation, yet again.
You voted in the
Republicans who represents you by raising your taxes. Oh yes they lowered them for 1 year & the raised them by doubling them plus gave the rich a even bigger tax break each & every year.
I don't know where you live but I have never heard of those taxes. I heard that Massachusetts is bad for that from what my son has told me. I think I would move to a better state if you could.
Yeah, they'll tax anything that generates income. How else are you gonna help out paying your fair share?
I pay tax on my job income, my stock portfolio value (plus the dividens, if they come from a foreign company that I own stock in), and on my electricity bill (because that COULD be used to mine bitcoin). What's so strange about that? You wanna cheat the system and not help anyone out, after having been given a free grade school education and all these paved roads going everywhere?
Hey dope, in reference to "taxes" do you now understand why CASH IS KING and using digital payment gimmicks is a bad idea? Furthermore, can you figure out why not fighting the DIGITAL CURRENCY agenda will be further enslavement of the masses, especially if it's "programmable", try to contemplate that concept momentarily. It's quite an epiphany for Millennials when they finally realize how life works.
First of all, who the hell are you calling a dope? Calm down. Second of all, if you knew us, we are against digital currency and the direction it is taking. Stop making assumptions and making a fool of yourself. As a millennial, I am amazed how the previous generation allowed a bunch of stupid things to happen to this country and to their families. They blame the kids yet don’t blame themselves for raising those kids.
@@leohernandezcolonful the sad thing is I don't believe you were asking me a rhetorical question, but quite possibly demonstrated my point; that is not having the ability to figure out who I'm referring to as a dope!?! Your generation is generally a disgrace and you people whine too much, suck it up buttercup. Trophies for just showing up, play dates and helicopter parents contributed to your generation being completely underwhelming.
@@criticalinfrastructurepart1959 I guess I wasn’t clear; don’t call her a dope. To my point, you make an assumption without actually knowing me or my family. We don’t participate in that nonsense that some of the previous generation implemented. We work hard for our stuff and ask no one for anything. Questioning taxation is not whining and if you think it is, you have a problem. You blame millennials for being weak but from what I gather, it was your generation that raised them. So reap what you sowed. Fortunately for me, I was raised with that crap and know how to get ahead in life without asking for handouts.
@@criticalinfrastructurepart1959 Methinks you are misplacing your apparent anger of millennials and their alleged enthusiasm of digital currency onto my humble little video of taxes on cows.
I am unsure of where exactly I gave the impression I was anti-cash and pro-digital currency (which is what to you: credit and debit cards? Crypto? You failed to specify), but I suspect you didn’t put your listening ears on and just spoke hastily (and unnecessarily aggressively) in order to be heard.
But whadda I know? I’m just a dope 😉
@@miscellaneousme It's not anger since I have no invested interest in you or your ilk, but as an aside it doesn't surprise me why you're "unsure", which is why the salutation is indeed accurate. My "listening ears" were in fact "on", but it seems your inability to make logical connections are apparently loose?! Hey, good luck with the 'hobby farm' or eventual conversion to 'commercial farm' because you'll never be considered a "homesteader" due to the fact that nowhere in this country allows for the outright ownership of land in either freehold or allodial title for that matter, you'll always be TENANTS. Cheers emoji hieroglypher!
"in my area"...uh, ok, you live in Estonia, right??? Kazackstan?? How many cows for marriage??.....ohhhhhh, COUNTY, so probably Switzerland???
Need to move
You know when you help your friend do something and they help you back .. that needs to be taxed
don't give them anymore ideas
It's enough to make a person vote Republican!
Coming soon: yes, and add 0,1 ct tax to every word you say on YT.
I'm not sure where you live but here in California we're not getting taxed on any of that stuff.
@@waynewalsh761 I used to live in California but do not anymore
I never heard of such a thing as taxing personal livestock, I think she may be overstating taxes that are meant for cattle ranches. If you want a family milk cow, get 1, but if you get 3-4, they know it's not for personal family milking because you can't drink 4-6 gallons of milk a day. Noticed she also said she couldn't find her county listed on this website. I pay taxes every year for my home and 1 acre on a house I outright own. Seems to me I pay rent on my own property but have never found a way around it and she won't either. She knew there were taxes when she bought it, so my sympathy for her plight is somewhat muted.
@@raymondlong3024 Yes, I did know I’d have to pay property taxes. I didn’t realize that they increase the property taxes for things like paved roads, garden sheds, and whatever else falls under the umbrella of “property improvement”. It makes sense now (I still think it is wrong for them to do that), but I didn’t know all the things that increase my tax bill until I called the tax collector and got specifics.
some states have ported the professional farmer taxation over to the hobbiest side. because you have the opportunity to sell something, defacto a business.. unfortunately, it takes a mass of people to push back the crazy and most of us are too busy to bring normalcy to governance.
2 cows will allow you to have milk year around (one calf every six months). Depending on the size of your family 3 or 4 cows is probably a very sensible number. ADDITIONALLY, you can freeze-dry excess milk and keep it in hermetically sealed containers in you larder -- for, like, decades. Butter can be pressure canned and is shelf-stable for years.
The only fly in this ointment is, of course, all the baby cows. If you sell them, then that's income I suppose. But, as someone already mentioned, It does cost something to maintain living assets (whether animal, vegetable, insect, bacteria or whatever else) and those costs can be deducted (I assume -- definitely not a tax advisor here). As long as you walk that fine liine between income and outlay, you're probably fine.
I don't see how anyone can be surprised by this! People don't know this stuff, that is the only possible way they can keep voting for democrats.
@@davidphillips3953 I agree with your point that it must be ignorance to the reality that causes people to make poor decisions when electing representatives.
I wasn’t surprised that I have to pay tax in general, as taxes are a given. I was surprised as to the specifics of what increases my property taxes (I.e. paved road and a small garden shed) and things that are taxed as personal property like cows and horses.