I love Dr Dyer and he will always be a mentor to me. I think Ram Dass is right when he sees God in the good and the bad. The man has ascended to a higher level of consciousness. Spirituality goes beyond positive and negative.
So many benefitted from Ram Das. What a great gift he gave them by giving them an opportunity to return the kindness he showed to them all these years! In our quest to understand God, we may be making a mistake in trying to qualify everything God is doing as either good or bad. In God’s eyes, it probably makes no difference. It is up to us who are at the receiving end to make sense of everything that comes in our way. Sometimes, the good is in hiding behind something that appears to be bad revealing itself only in hindsight. The opposite could be true too. The choice is ours to see everything as either the good or the bad. How we deal with them is totally up to us.
I had seen Dr. Dyer on PBS and he always came across as a kind man with his kind teaching. I tip my hat to him for being obedient to Ram Dass’s guru by writing the letter and posting it to all his followers. The people responded because Ram Dass has strewn jewels of wisdom, and love teachings all over the world for years! When one labors in the field of love joyously and selflessly, the world responds in kind. So happy that beautiful Ram Dass was cared for and loved by those he loved first!
Yes! "Good" and" bad "are human judgements. Everything not of the light, darkness etc.. is created by humans/ego. We incarnate to Earth to experience the contrast that does NOT exist at home/with source/Spirit. Source/God/Spirit is just pure energy.💞 such a beautiful conversation. The deep clarity now that they're home I'm sure was beautiful to experience.
I paused this video because I had to go to work and when I came back to finish watching it I realized that it was at exactly 3:33 of the video, I've been seeing that number everywhere...Strange...
The hatred and the negative energy that exists in this universe is here. We are as much a part of that energy as we are as much a part of the love. If we use that shadow to learn, then we come closer to the joy that brings us the love we seek in our life. What our ego defines as evil, that pain we feel from that evil, is a tool that we can use to learn of the glory and beauty of love and of what we can think of as God. That is what I believe that Ram Dass understood. I know Carl Jung understood it. You need darkness to know of the light. And when you choose love instead of fear then you are making a conscious decision to manifest loving awareness and you move from the darkness into the light. It is our process. In this, both Ram Dass and Wayne Dyer were in agreement. This is God in action inside each of us and for humanity throughout generations.
I like how Wayne Dyer is so humble and always brings up money he's donated or given to poor people. I remember one interview where he said he gave up all his material things but later brought up that he had a $17k watch. Such wisdom.
Totally agree with Ram Das about God being neither good nor evil. I think that the notion of good and evil came into existence with the ego’s desire to thrive or protect itself.
Ram Dass is on point. I never realized before that Wayne Dyer wasn’t quite on point in his wisdom. He was, in this interview at least, still believing the illusion of separation.
@@wthomas7955 Perhaps, it is the difference between having a predominantly Hindu belief system (Ram Dass) and a predominantly Christian belief system (Wayne Dyer).
@@robbrown4621 The thing is that Ram Dass always made the effort to be honest and therefor humble. Dyer always came across as full of himself to me. I could tell that Ram Dass was often uncomfortable with a lot of Dyer's shtick. His "spirituality" was an act, which also happened to be his source of livelihood. The entire spiritual pursuit is extremely simple and easy enough to figure out. Many have and use that knowledge to their advantage. Someone who actually lives the thing is quite rare though. Ram Dass was the real deal.
I think with regards to their discussion on "good & bad", Wayne was just explaining how energy has levels to it & that in order to reach God-realization within us and move out of the illusion of separation, we have to choose the "ascending" path, which means to move higher up in our energy level. Everything is an expression of God, and we're either expressing God through illusion/forgetfulness/separation... or expressing God through connection/realization/ascension. It's about accepting the duality in this 3d game that we participated in, and making the choice as to how we'd like to express God. As Wayne said, we are all "doomed to make choices" while playing this game on earth. And we can choose to create using fear, hate, anger, shame, etc... Or create from a place of love, peace, joy, and harmony. All of us are still fragments of God, no matter how we choose to play the game. So there is no judgment either way. But discerning & choosing the direction you take (up or down; higher energy or lower energy) is a vital part if you are ascending towards higher levels of awareness.
Interesting theory about our concious thaughts creating disturbance in the water and creating tsunamis. But is'nt tsunamis a phenomena that's occurred long before our time on the planet? Dinosaurs did'nt go around hating on other dinosaurs did they? =)
Buddha never called it darkness or evil but ignorance. Ignorance causes us to suffer and that's how we NATURALLY turn to God for help. It is my severe ms who obliged me to wholeheartedly attune to God (Mother Nature) as I have been mostly bed ridden for over 2 years. It was the anger that I was carrying inside that caused it, I was creating my own demons with my negative thinking pattern. God is that part of consciousness which is inside every single one of us, never listen to your ego but carefully listen to your heart and feelings! 🤗💖😁💚🤗☺️
Wayne Dyer admits that everything is god, but continues to say that dark is farther from God. What IS God cannot be “farther” from God, but I agree that it is moving “slower” in terms of vibration.
If they refuse to get help if bipolar raging how do you help that after years of trying and they rage still at you. Wont admit that they even have a problem after putting holes in walls kicking car doors to bending it. I can't do it anymore at near 30 they don't want to hear anything from anyone its always someone else to blame for their raging
Sometimes, we have to care for ourselves. We are divine beings too. How do we care for others at the expense of ourselves? We need to love and care for ourselves, too. Blessings to you. I know how demanding and draining care for someone like that is. God/Goddess Bless
Christianity failed me. I couldn't believe. What I have learned from Ram Dass and others I truly believe in. Belief is not a choice, it is just what your soul believes 🙏
In India, we say when the disciple is ready the Guru comes..and it is according to our Karmas we meet people ..There are collective Karmas ie Family and individual Karma...so it was Ram Dass 's Karma which introduced his Guru in his life...and our Yogis who do Sadhana they all know about it .
But, the collective conscious( our evil thoughts), it's/they're God. Funny WD doesn't make the connection. God creates and destroys in perfect love and in perfect balance. We all have our own path. If you get, it you get it. If you don't, you don't. It's all happening in God's perfect time. There's no need, or benefit to judging others in their path. We will all ask the right questions, and receive the answers at the perfect time. Enjoy your existence in this dimension. You're eternal, and here for the experience. May you find your gifts and callings, and may we all live our fullest lives in and for God & each other (We are One).
And still Dyer failed to see the implication of God authoring events that have negative impact, such as disasters or acts of terrorism. Evil has to be part of God: in as much as it is a necessary instrument for the dialectical nature of creation, the dualism without which there can be no dynamic, no renewal in the universe. Black holes-matter, life-death, night-day, compassion-hatred, light-darkness, coldness-heat, etc etc. Through the interplay of the opposites creation escapes a static status quo. It is through the tension between good and evil (both created by God) that human autonomy is ensured. We live in a universe that is constantly co-created by God and the creatures that inhabit it.
WD takes off confident in his unimpeded speech, forgetting to give ample time to Baba RD to get his words out. By observing how Baba RD allows him to show off and simply throws the odd controversial question it is totally clear who if the two towers over the other in terms of spiritual enlightenment.
@@Lalallalu you are just playing projection games. Watch them with your heart, watch the back and forth. Its you who is playing the levels game, its obvious they are just there enjoying their back and forth while knowing in their own ways that god is playing through form.
i dont think they are playing the game of levels. I think they are just being there with each others, going back and forth and recognizing that its god who is at play behind both of them playing in form.
@@Ratbattle they don’t need to be “playing the game of levels” for them to be at different levels of realization. People recognising this is not necessarily indicative of these people “projecting” onto them, as you’ve been saying to people in this comment section. They are just noticing and commenting on it.
Datman thanks for this observation. I was one of the people criticised for pointing out the different spiritual stature of the two men. Projection is not the issue at all, and I should know since I am a psychotherapist and self awareness is my daily bread.
@@Lalallalu Perhaps spiritual stature is something akin to the food one finds on a banquet table. Instead of levels there are simply plates from which one can choose to taste and consume.
The Bible tells us what Truth is. Satan is the god of this world. In Isaiah 14 we are told about his pride and fall where he deceived the nations. 12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations! 13 For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north: 14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High. 18 And he said unto them, I beheld Satan as lightning fall from heaven. 19 Behold, I give unto you power to tread on serpents and scorpions, and over all the power of the enemy: and nothing shall by any means hurt you. 20 Notwithstanding in this rejoice not, that the spirits are subject unto you; but rather rejoice, because your names are written in heaven.
I love Dr Dyer and he will always be a mentor to me. I think Ram Dass is right when he sees God in the good and the bad. The man has ascended to a higher level of consciousness. Spirituality goes beyond positive and negative.
Ram Dass was incredibly generous,; no matter how sick he was, he still put his whole energy into communicating his knowledge!
🤗💚😊😁💖🤗
This has to be one of the best conversations, of two of my favourite spiritual teachers of all time....
So many benefitted from Ram Das. What a great gift he gave them by giving them an opportunity to return the kindness he showed to them all these years! In our quest to understand God, we may be making a mistake in trying to qualify everything God is doing as either good or bad. In God’s eyes, it probably makes no difference. It is up to us who are at the receiving end to make sense of everything that comes in our way. Sometimes, the good is in hiding behind something that appears to be bad revealing itself only in hindsight. The opposite could be true too. The choice is ours to see everything as either the good or the bad. How we deal with them is totally up to us.
Absolutely in gratitude to them both ....love this conversation
Bless their souls
I had seen Dr. Dyer on PBS and he always came across as a kind man with his kind teaching. I tip my hat to him for being obedient to Ram Dass’s guru by writing the letter and posting it to all his followers. The people responded because Ram Dass has strewn jewels of wisdom, and love teachings all over the world for years! When one labors in the field of love joyously and selflessly, the world responds in kind. So happy that beautiful Ram Dass was cared for and loved by those he loved first!
Yes! "Good" and" bad "are human judgements. Everything not of the light, darkness etc.. is created by humans/ego. We incarnate to Earth to experience the contrast that does NOT exist at home/with source/Spirit. Source/God/Spirit is just pure energy.💞 such a beautiful conversation.
The deep clarity now that they're home I'm sure was beautiful to experience.
Ram Ram 🌷🙏💖🎀💖🙏🌷I remember with love 💝. Thanks for sharing this beautiful videos 🌷🙏💖🎀💖🙏🌷 Blessings to all. 🌷🙏💖🎀💖🙏🌷🙏💖🎀💖🙏🌷🙏💖🎀💖🙏🌷
Love u both , great teachers .
This was beautiful they talked about things that we all are trying to make sense of, this was great to watch.
Love leasoning to these too
I paused this video because I had to go to work and when I came back to finish watching it I realized that it was at exactly 3:33 of the video, I've been seeing that number everywhere...Strange...
10:20 my reaction every time I listen to Wayne LOL
That was a blessing!!
The hatred and the negative energy that exists in this universe is here. We are as much a part of that energy as we are as much a part of the love. If we use that shadow to learn, then we come closer to the joy that brings us the love we seek in our life.
What our ego defines as evil, that pain we feel from that evil, is a tool that we can use to learn of the glory and beauty of love and of what we can think of as God.
That is what I believe that Ram Dass understood. I know Carl Jung understood it.
You need darkness to know of the light. And when you choose love instead of fear then you are making a conscious decision to manifest loving awareness and you move from the darkness into the light. It is our process.
In this, both Ram Dass and Wayne Dyer were in agreement.
This is God in action inside each of us and for humanity throughout generations.
Great collab!
I like how Wayne Dyer is so humble and always brings up money he's donated or given to poor people. I remember one interview where he said he gave up all his material things but later brought up that he had a $17k watch. Such wisdom.
i love that his wisdom puts him in this service to Ram Dass.
Totally agree with Ram Das about God being neither good nor evil. I think that the notion of good and evil came into existence with the ego’s desire to thrive or protect itself.
Ram Dass is on point. I never realized before that Wayne Dyer wasn’t quite on point in his wisdom. He was, in this interview at least, still believing the illusion of separation.
Yep, dyer doesn't know. That's why he's so irritating to listen to.
@@wthomas7955 Perhaps, it is the difference between having a predominantly Hindu belief system (Ram Dass) and a predominantly Christian belief system (Wayne Dyer).
@@robbrown4621 The thing is that Ram Dass always made the effort to be honest and therefor humble. Dyer always came across as full of himself to me. I could tell that Ram Dass was often uncomfortable with a lot of Dyer's shtick. His "spirituality" was an act, which also happened to be his source of livelihood.
The entire spiritual pursuit is extremely simple and easy enough to figure out. Many have and use that knowledge to their advantage. Someone who actually lives the thing is quite rare though. Ram Dass was the real deal.
i can´t get over 9:53 the problem they are having is about the organization of their believe and not their truth xD
9:53 I sense that Rumdumb would enjoy self-aware wolves meme.
"Take september 11...do you think that's god's work?" Ram Dass, trickster trickster
I think with regards to their discussion on "good & bad", Wayne was just explaining how energy has levels to it & that in order to reach God-realization within us and move out of the illusion of separation, we have to choose the "ascending" path, which means to move higher up in our energy level. Everything is an expression of God, and we're either expressing God through illusion/forgetfulness/separation... or expressing God through connection/realization/ascension. It's about accepting the duality in this 3d game that we participated in, and making the choice as to how we'd like to express God. As Wayne said, we are all "doomed to make choices" while playing this game on earth. And we can choose to create using fear, hate, anger, shame, etc... Or create from a place of love, peace, joy, and harmony.
All of us are still fragments of God, no matter how we choose to play the game. So there is no judgment either way. But discerning & choosing the direction you take (up or down; higher energy or lower energy) is a vital part if you are ascending towards higher levels of awareness.
🙏🏻🙏🏻 🙇♀️
Dr Wayne at his best, beautifully said.. Beautiful video
Interesting theory about our concious thaughts creating disturbance in the water and creating tsunamis. But is'nt tsunamis a phenomena that's occurred long before our time on the planet? Dinosaurs did'nt go around hating on other dinosaurs did they? =)
Buddha never called it darkness or evil but ignorance. Ignorance causes us to suffer and that's how we NATURALLY turn to God for help. It is my severe ms who obliged me to wholeheartedly attune to God (Mother Nature) as I have been mostly bed ridden for over 2 years. It was the anger that I was carrying inside that caused it, I was creating my own demons with my negative thinking pattern. God is that part of consciousness which is inside every single one of us, never listen to your ego but carefully listen to your heart and feelings!
🤗💖😁💚🤗☺️
You have much wisdom. Thank you for your comment. It will be something from which I can learn. Thank you.
Wayne Dyer admits that everything is god, but continues to say that dark is farther from God. What IS God cannot be “farther” from God, but I agree that it is moving “slower” in terms of vibration.
If they refuse to get help if bipolar raging how do you help that after years of trying and they rage still at you. Wont admit that they even have a problem after putting holes in walls kicking car doors to bending it. I can't do it anymore at near 30 they don't want to hear anything from anyone its always someone else to blame for their raging
Sometimes, we have to care for ourselves. We are divine beings too. How do we care for others at the expense of ourselves? We need to love and care for ourselves, too. Blessings to you. I know how demanding and draining care for someone like that is. God/Goddess Bless
Christianity failed me. I couldn't believe. What I have learned from Ram Dass and others I truly believe in. Belief is not a choice, it is just what your soul believes 🙏
❤❤❤
In India, we say when the disciple is ready the Guru comes..and it is according to our Karmas we meet people ..There are collective Karmas ie Family and individual Karma...so it was Ram Dass 's Karma which introduced his Guru in his life...and our Yogis who do Sadhana they all know about it .
Rita, what are your views on free will? And how do you see it with reference to Karma
But, the collective conscious( our evil thoughts), it's/they're God. Funny WD doesn't make the connection. God creates and destroys in perfect love and in perfect balance. We all have our own path. If you get, it you get it. If you don't, you don't. It's all happening in God's perfect time. There's no need, or benefit to judging others in their path. We will all ask the right questions, and receive the answers at the perfect time. Enjoy your existence in this dimension. You're eternal, and here for the experience. May you find your gifts and callings, and may we all live our fullest lives in and for God & each other (We are One).
damn,
Such ego in the comments; "Those who speak, don't know. Those who know, don't speak."
Amitabha.
Thankfully Wayne got to sit with Ram Dass for a bit. Wayne doesn’t seem to know “who” God is…
And still Dyer failed to see the implication of God authoring events that have negative impact, such as disasters or acts of terrorism. Evil has to be part of God: in as much as it is a necessary instrument for the dialectical nature of creation, the dualism without which there can be no dynamic, no renewal in the universe. Black holes-matter, life-death, night-day, compassion-hatred, light-darkness, coldness-heat, etc etc. Through the interplay of the opposites creation escapes a static status quo. It is through the tension between good and evil (both created by God) that human autonomy is ensured. We live in a universe that is constantly co-created by God and the creatures that inhabit it.
Wayne Dyer seems disrespectful to me in this interview , knowing Ram Dass is in the position he’s in...
perhaps I’m biased
WD takes off confident in his unimpeded speech, forgetting to give ample time to Baba RD to get his words out. By observing how Baba RD allows him to show off and simply throws the odd controversial question it is totally clear who if the two towers over the other in terms of spiritual enlightenment.
@@Lalallalu you are just playing projection games. Watch them with your heart, watch the back and forth. Its you who is playing the levels game, its obvious they are just there enjoying their back and forth while knowing in their own ways that god is playing through form.
This guys on a totally diff.level that RD, he seems like he's Trying to put himself EQuaL to RD ...hmmmm.
i dont think they are playing the game of levels. I think they are just being there with each others, going back and forth and recognizing that its god who is at play behind both of them playing in form.
@@Ratbattle they don’t need to be “playing the game of levels” for them to be at different levels of realization. People recognising this is not necessarily indicative of these people “projecting” onto them, as you’ve been saying to people in this comment section. They are just noticing and commenting on it.
Datman thanks for this observation. I was one of the people criticised for pointing out the different spiritual stature of the two men. Projection is not the issue at all, and I should know since I am a psychotherapist and self awareness is my daily bread.
@@Lalallalu Perhaps spiritual stature is something akin to the food one finds on a banquet table. Instead of levels there are simply plates from which one can choose to taste and consume.
Let love flow....agree to disagree
As RD said he is wise
Be blessed
The Bible tells us what Truth is. Satan is the god of this world. In Isaiah 14 we are told about his pride and fall where he deceived the nations. 12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!
13 For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:
14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.
18 And he said unto them, I beheld Satan as lightning fall from heaven.
19 Behold, I give unto you power to tread on serpents and scorpions, and over all the power of the enemy: and nothing shall by any means hurt you.
20 Notwithstanding in this rejoice not, that the spirits are subject unto you; but rather rejoice, because your names are written in heaven.
Dyer was clueless.