Good review Mike very thorough we can always depend on your honesty and your complete description of the material and the playability you’re number one buddy
Hey Mike agree with most of what your saying about this bag. I too wonder what this fast side would play like if is was the Widow fast side. I play in a doubles league on fast boards and this bag works so great for a hard thrower. The only time I have an issue is just like you are saying when the fast side becomes the slow side. That happens when the humidity level gets high and the fast slide becomes tacky. Luckily I know have a set of Viper R’s than I can change to for just those conditions. This combination of bags ( Widow R and Viper R ) is now my close to “ perfect “ lineup! Love your reviews and very detailed information and I can’t wait for more reviews and throwing tips as well!!! Keep up the great work!!
I agree with just about everything you mentioned. I don't really like the "fast side" either. Makes it too difficult to collect bags. They just pile up instead of collecting and going in. Thanks for you reviews, fan of the channel. 👍🏻
Do you know if they've switched to the regular widow fast side on the newer releases? based off pictures i've seen it looks like they did but haven't thrown any of the newer releases to know fursure. would be a perfect bag for me if they did lol
I don't know. I haven't thrown another set of these. If you think this would be a perfect bag, then check out the Swag Bag KaBoom bags. Those are better than these. They are also cheaper and typically available.
I’ve played with both window and viper rs and the viper carpet side definitely seems faster and doesn’t kick is as much for me at least. Widow for me seems more like a traditional carpet bag and viper r seems like some hybrid.
It is the same carpet on both bags. The difference in play comes from the difference in the amount of fill in the bags. The Widow-R are a fuller bag and will kick more by they are easier to cut and push with. The Viper-R is floppy and that reduces the kick.
Thank you for the great content. I have BG Wizards on the way, not to eat up your time, but how do you rank the Vikings/Shapeshifters, and Wizards to your liking?
Viking, Wizard and then Shapeshifter. I didn't like the Shapeshifter. I think there are much better fast bag options. The Viking and Wizard are both great bags. Although, I have heard that the template is bigger on the new Vikings. I don't know if that's true. If it is, I don't know if it's intentional or a quality issue. I'm not so sure a larger template Viking would be as good a bag. I feel the smaller template fits that bag perfectly.
Hey Mike, would the Widow B be a good bag for rolling?? Wondering what you think.. looking for a good roll/flop bag around a 4 speed with still a fast side of 8 or 9. Appreciate your reviews and time. Thank you
The Widow B has the same fast side as the Widow which is the same as the Viking & Pro Advantage fast side. It is a 7 speed material. The fill in the Widow B is not a roll friendly fill. It can be rolled but it's not as easy as other bags. I would recommend the Kontraband Kombats (4/8 speed) or WTF Tangos (4/9). The Fly Magic (4/8) is another option.
@@MikesBags cool, thanks for the advice. I will ask my fellow buddies at my next Switcholio to see if anybody has one of those sets I could try out. Thanks
That was me mocking Ultra for their inconsistencies in the naming of their bags. I had to refrain from getting into too much detail in the video. If the R refers to the carpet material, then why didn't they use a different letter for the Vapor-R since it's a different carpet material? I know quite a few people that bought the Vapor-R thinking it was the same carpet. They weren't happy when they got the bags. Same thing with the Vipor and Widow names. If Ultra is going to use that name, they should use the matching material. It's very misleading.
Widow X uses the same slow side as the Psycho X. It's a linen material. Plays a little faster than the carpet on the Widow R. I'll have a review up for the Widow X in a couple weeks.
@@MikesBags I just got some widow-x’s broke in and I really like the way they play. I’m curious on tour take of them. I’ll be looking forward to your review of them. 🍻
Good review Mike very thorough we can always depend on your honesty and your complete description of the material and the playability you’re number one buddy
Thanks! I appreciate your support.
Great review as always Mike!
Hey Mike agree with most of what your saying about this bag. I too wonder what this fast side would play like if is was the Widow fast side. I play in a doubles league on fast boards and this bag works so great for a hard thrower. The only time I have an issue is just like you are saying when the fast side becomes the slow side. That happens when the humidity level gets high and the fast slide becomes tacky. Luckily I know have a set of Viper R’s than I can change to for just those conditions. This combination of bags ( Widow R and Viper R ) is now my close to “ perfect “ lineup! Love your reviews and very detailed information and I can’t wait for more reviews and throwing tips as well!!! Keep up the great work!!
Thanks Mike!
I agree with just about everything you mentioned. I don't really like the "fast side" either. Makes it too difficult to collect bags. They just pile up instead of collecting and going in. Thanks for you reviews, fan of the channel. 👍🏻
Thanks for the support! 👊
Hey Mike what are some other alternative bags that have that full feel?
Do you know if they've switched to the regular widow fast side on the newer releases? based off pictures i've seen it looks like they did but haven't thrown any of the newer releases to know fursure. would be a perfect bag for me if they did lol
I don't know. I haven't thrown another set of these. If you think this would be a perfect bag, then check out the Swag Bag KaBoom bags. Those are better than these. They are also cheaper and typically available.
I’ve played with both window and viper rs and the viper carpet side definitely seems faster and doesn’t kick is as much for me at least. Widow for me seems more like a traditional carpet bag and viper r seems like some hybrid.
It is the same carpet on both bags. The difference in play comes from the difference in the amount of fill in the bags. The Widow-R are a fuller bag and will kick more by they are easier to cut and push with. The Viper-R is floppy and that reduces the kick.
Thank you for the great content.
I have BG Wizards on the way, not to eat up your time, but how do you rank the Vikings/Shapeshifters, and Wizards to your liking?
Viking, Wizard and then Shapeshifter. I didn't like the Shapeshifter. I think there are much better fast bag options. The Viking and Wizard are both great bags. Although, I have heard that the template is bigger on the new Vikings. I don't know if that's true. If it is, I don't know if it's intentional or a quality issue. I'm not so sure a larger template Viking would be as good a bag. I feel the smaller template fits that bag perfectly.
Hey Mike, would the Widow B be a good bag for rolling?? Wondering what you think.. looking for a good roll/flop bag around a 4 speed with still a fast side of 8 or 9. Appreciate your reviews and time. Thank you
The Widow B has the same fast side as the Widow which is the same as the Viking & Pro Advantage fast side. It is a 7 speed material. The fill in the Widow B is not a roll friendly fill. It can be rolled but it's not as easy as other bags.
I would recommend the Kontraband Kombats (4/8 speed) or WTF Tangos (4/9). The Fly Magic (4/8) is another option.
@@MikesBags cool, thanks for the advice. I will ask my fellow buddies at my next Switcholio to see if anybody has one of those sets I could try out. Thanks
R is the first letter of the fabric manufacturer
Thanks for the explanation on that. Like Mike, I was also confused by the R for carpet 😂. 🍻
Did not know that that is interesting I think I know what that material is called
I thought the R was for Rug. 😅🤣😂
That was me mocking Ultra for their inconsistencies in the naming of their bags. I had to refrain from getting into too much detail in the video. If the R refers to the carpet material, then why didn't they use a different letter for the Vapor-R since it's a different carpet material? I know quite a few people that bought the Vapor-R thinking it was the same carpet. They weren't happy when they got the bags.
Same thing with the Vipor and Widow names. If Ultra is going to use that name, they should use the matching material. It's very misleading.
@@MikesBags you're right, they are very inconsistent and won't put out a chart saying what each version is. What is your email?
Mike, What is the difference between this and the widow x?
Widow X uses the same slow side as the Psycho X. It's a linen material. Plays a little faster than the carpet on the Widow R. I'll have a review up for the Widow X in a couple weeks.
Thanks Mike for the reply!
@@MikesBags I just got some widow-x’s broke in and I really like the way they play. I’m curious on tour take of them. I’ll be looking forward to your review of them. 🍻
I thought the R stood for rug. lol
🤣 That is best answer I've heard for the R!