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Ngai Tahu wants its stolen Tahutahi or Snowflake pounamu returned

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  • Опубликовано: 22 июл 2012
  • Even if our kiwi athletes don't get to wear medals round their necks at the Olympics, they'll still be wearing a precious Ngai Tahu taonga. they're the first to lawfully wear authenticated Tahutahi/Snowflake pounamu since Ngai Tahu took ownership of the resource 15 years ago. but Ngai Tahu's warning no one else has the right to have this most rare of pounamu and the iwi's reclaiming the resource which it says was stolen from them.

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  • @Ngatikuripup29
    @Ngatikuripup29 12 лет назад +17

    Who are you to use the pakeha court system to return pounamu that you can then go and resell? This is for financial gain. Those tohu were made from confiscated pounamu, you could at least have sold the man non-confiscated pounamu...where's your people's brains at??? Financial gain, that's where it's at. Aue!

  • @K9Karotu
    @K9Karotu 7 лет назад +28

    Its about money not mana

    • @dtmanaiadm
      @dtmanaiadm 6 лет назад +2

      true that.

    • @wolfie83
      @wolfie83 5 лет назад +3

      Yup, I'm a Euro decent guy with Maori friends...and they gifted me pounamu, this woman gonna take what was given as a gift of friendship? Granted I am not going to sell my mere or my toki, and when I carve my own hei tiki I sure won't be selling that either. Mana is in the intent, not who owns the stone to resell for profit.

    • @sonnyboy9257
      @sonnyboy9257 5 лет назад +3

      wolfie83 I think that excludes you bro

    • @woohooo7634
      @woohooo7634 4 года назад +3

      @@wolfie83 Why is a white guy speaking about mana? I'm confused.

    • @MrLevwoolf
      @MrLevwoolf 2 года назад

      Is mana...an actual thing, outside of display, and power dynamics? Or...I think it is. All due and again, all due respect to Maori....but, where Maori Maori, before outsiders came? Colonize the colonized, with land-based culture. Not city people. City people, with little lived expiriece or connection to whenua, are ...a problem.

  • @deebentley9380
    @deebentley9380 6 месяцев назад +4

    Please excuse my ignorance maybe ive watched too many under the rug rabbithole programming but south island maori really do look middle eastern or persian in decent compared to most north island maori …i just find it interesting

  • @gma2196
    @gma2196 6 лет назад +18

    Crying all the way to the bank

  • @2ruBro
    @2ruBro 6 месяцев назад +3

    He goes off about people from the city and yet he can't even pronounce the word Mere 😳

  • @joannepandora6844
    @joannepandora6844 5 лет назад +13

    A Jamaican showed me in Venice Beach California how to tell the difference between Pounamu and the jade,, He wrapped a human hair around my stone and put a flame under it ,,the hair didn't burn or melt instantly as one would expect it to,,, saying that's the mana in the Pounamu I was in awe,,,,,,,, I don't like the way the Chinese are using traditional maori designs and mass producing them in nasty cheap jade.

  • @lomezbrownpersonal
    @lomezbrownpersonal 10 лет назад +18

    so basically confiscate pounamu and only approve sales i fngai tahu get money back? lol..you dont own the land..the land owns us..we belong to the land.

    • @lomezbrownpersonal
      @lomezbrownpersonal 9 лет назад +5

      ***** i agree brother..I am a maori..it just goes against everything what I think being Maori stands for.these people are hypocrites.one love

    • @noemamamaka3368
      @noemamamaka3368 5 лет назад +5

      EO !!!!! Aloha e, I am noelani. We are who we were....they will never understand. I am an Hawaiian wahinetoa, and this makes my pu'uwai so sore😢. It is the same piko that binds us, that pain at the thought of your suffering even in this instance., it is the same pain that resonates in us brownies, as warrior as we are.. Aloha nuinui from Taua'i, much love to u and the protection of the MA'ORI people, ponaumu and Autearoa. I give my solid word, 'olelo pa'a, not to partake in the purchase of ponaumu, real or otherwise, further, I call for a boycott on the illegal and non cultural harvesting and pro$titution and sale of this spiritual and very binding, MA'OLI, authentic, stone of Autearoa and a kuleana of the MA'ORI PEOPLE who are it's rightful guardians.. I do however remain as an Polynesian respectful and may obtain, one day, a ponaumu with true Alo of hā from the keepers. Alohā Mai, mālama pono and, ku'e, stand in resistance always to that which seeks to remove our very mark from these sacred places from which we are so fortunate to come. We must keep the telling of the story so it will be correct, and pono. AUTEAROA KEEP RISING ❤️💛💚 NOELANI MAKA MAHUKA, RESPECTFUL SUBJECT OF THE HAWAIIAN KINGDOM NATION AND DESCENDANT OF TAAMEAMEA III, KING KAUIKEAUOULI. A HUI HOU

  • @paigetganathompson28888
    @paigetganathompson28888 5 лет назад +10

    Do you grow the Pounamu Greenstone no I don't think so lmfao.😂😂😂😂😂😂

  • @kapadurz2056
    @kapadurz2056 9 лет назад +9

    Greed,

  • @shantubesha
    @shantubesha 3 года назад +3

    Waitaiki is from the North Island and she was turned to pounamu by Poutini so the resource has links to other tribes Ngai Tahu. I think if you find anything along rivers or beaches that you can carry by youself you can take it but no more than u can carry

  • @KokoMcMonkey
    @KokoMcMonkey 5 лет назад +5

    They can sit on a big pile of their own pounamu and feel all holier than thou if they want. It's just a pile of rocks if nothing can be done with it. I'd import it too.

  • @TheGugy
    @TheGugy 5 месяцев назад +3

    watching this for school. lady is crying over a fucking rock

  • @kfung4
    @kfung4 4 года назад +2

    I think it’s great idea to define authenticity of the greenstone for people who respect the origin of pounamu, if they aren’t selling it 3 times over the market price for the same quality of craftsmanship (sometimes lower)
    The idea was good, but too bad it turned out to be profit driven

  • @whasudr
    @whasudr 7 лет назад +13

    U have a price on it, to sell it degrades the mana of the stone itself. Pounamu must be given as a gift. Until u take the price away from it it has no real value to a real maori.

    • @noemamamaka3368
      @noemamamaka3368 5 лет назад +1

      ❤️💛💚

    • @noemamamaka3368
      @noemamamaka3368 5 лет назад

      This is an authentic statement. I know from our own Hawaiian culture, and being a Polynesian dancer, we no like their paper money. It is far better to to have such Na Hulu, such Treasures bestowed on us by a tupuna, or to have a night dreams and the to find it or myriad ways the Mana, divine supernatural, ordains it to be yours. Much alohā.

  • @marx4325
    @marx4325 2 года назад +6

    What allot of nonsense! owning stone naturally found is a joke. Seriously get over yourselves!..............money money money.......thats all. Woman crying like somehow she knows all the rocks personally its ridiculous.

  • @rhysstanley7387
    @rhysstanley7387 3 года назад +2

    Mr Gedge is making me watch this for class.

  • @c00lg00p
    @c00lg00p 3 года назад +3

    we had to watch this in class. got to admit tho, its interesting.

  • @donewith8079
    @donewith8079 4 года назад +3

    How come Ngai Tahu own the pounamu and not " Waitaha " wasn't WAITAHA the first nation of N.Z ??

  • @redpoppyanvil7192
    @redpoppyanvil7192 7 лет назад +3

    jeff i think is actually waitaha.from easter island

  • @evzonthemaori3753
    @evzonthemaori3753 8 лет назад +7

    you have no right to dictate paunamu possession. how dare you.

  • @roseadams8003
    @roseadams8003 3 года назад +2

    No tears

  • @aidanluap1066
    @aidanluap1066 4 года назад +4

    Been told many times, by many different people, this stone will always find its way home

  • @jonathanstoevelaar1951
    @jonathanstoevelaar1951 5 лет назад +3

    There's no mana there sorry bout it no mana at all y bekoz those rocks don't belong to any one that's fuckn rediculouse str8 up and this is coming from a Maori I am Maori ko Te whanau o Tuwhakairiora

  • @arohagerrard1606
    @arohagerrard1606 6 лет назад +1

    So taihoa!!,we can't buy authentic pounamu at all!!,aue

  • @danephillipson5781
    @danephillipson5781 5 лет назад +6

    born kiwi should have the same rights as other races here green my colour .this country getting to be a joke

    • @mangukahaaotearoa9324
      @mangukahaaotearoa9324 5 лет назад +2

      He said plastic Maori but who's the one who can't even pronounce Maori words properly stupid clown

    • @mooselee902
      @mooselee902 5 лет назад +3

      They do have the same rights? were talking land ownership here, by your logic i can go to any farm and take an animal because we should have the right to take from the environment

  • @sovereignsun8048
    @sovereignsun8048 10 лет назад

    What perplexes me most is Edwards are of Mangatangi up north I did like the blue and white polka dot scarf though suits you well.

    • @spartan6262
      @spartan6262 6 лет назад

      sovereign sun as in Ngati Tamaoho?

  • @redpoppyanvil7192
    @redpoppyanvil7192 7 лет назад +3

    jymal the stone would have been left there fine had u hua not gone near it.pakeha should not be speaking of mana at all

    • @wolfie83
      @wolfie83 5 лет назад +2

      So I grew up with maori, they gifted me pounamu carved FOR ME...mana is a force that flows, it isn't racist. You wanna call us all pakeha, whatever, but I'll fight anyone that tries to take my pounamu.

    • @woohooo7634
      @woohooo7634 4 года назад

      @@wolfie83 pakeha.

    • @jalencrowley8124
      @jalencrowley8124 3 года назад

      @@wolfie83 typical white person comment.

  • @safuwanfauzi5014
    @safuwanfauzi5014 Год назад

    Did Maori have stonework, dry rockwall/stonewall, and stone temple like Hawaii, Tahiti, Tonga, Cook Island, Fiji, Samoa, Mirconesia, Palau, Guam, Marshall Island and Mariana Island? LIKE 'Tahiti Marae' and Heiau? Maori have great wooden architecture, palisade wall, totem, fort/pa, good art, coloring and carving. any stonework, stone temple in built by Maori? or any Maori city or settlement complex with stonewall, stone temple like Heiau/stone marae, with maori wood architecture building, farm and garden?

    • @karlnz1471
      @karlnz1471 5 месяцев назад

      What is your point that has something to do with the video?

  • @carolkara4714
    @carolkara4714 6 лет назад

    So what happens if you have been gifted a tahutahi taonga?

    • @NotnaRed
      @NotnaRed 5 лет назад +3

      Keep and enjoy.

    • @wolfie83
      @wolfie83 5 лет назад +2

      Agreed, keep and enjoy...I was gifted a mere and toki, plus a rough stone from the river to carve my own hei tiki. I will not give up a gift given freely.

  • @heminuiraho8235
    @heminuiraho8235 10 дней назад

    Ngai Tahu didn't exist before the treaty settlement claims. Im just going to sit in here see what information I can garner.

  • @terrytawhai2886
    @terrytawhai2886 2 года назад +3

    Your the man bevan climo much respect brother

  • @chiquashrelark3569
    @chiquashrelark3569 5 лет назад

    Grr is this why I was getting spiritually attacked for that pounamu i didnt fucking take...

  • @admiralgoodboy
    @admiralgoodboy 5 лет назад +1

    Sounds like a bitta bullshit to be honest

  • @regtau8601
    @regtau8601 5 лет назад

    Give it back

  • @jomiles72
    @jomiles72 Год назад

    Wow pretty devisive, right.

  • @matiungawharau
    @matiungawharau 25 дней назад

    Hey you want Pounamu, we fighting for our Whenua, that's more important than your piece of rock, really........

  • @nikozsnowden
    @nikozsnowden 3 года назад

    This is bullshit.... The stone there carving is well beyond jade or greenstone... What south island ponamu reps is the fact there is a spirit inside there.. And to be able to take that spirit inside the form of a necklace or any sort of jewellery should be blessed otherwise karma comes

  • @tereroberts6885
    @tereroberts6885 10 месяцев назад

    Mauri Ora Bevan

  • @yourmum2934
    @yourmum2934 3 года назад +1

    My name is literally Pounamu Crofts Bennett and im apart of Ngai Tahu in Christchurch tf lmfao

  • @yourztruely3940
    @yourztruely3940 5 лет назад

    Alot of Pakeha were selling that stolen Taonga to over sea's markets.

  • @elsmo3597
    @elsmo3597 День назад

    fein fein fein, how bout you get a job job job

  • @tereroberts6885
    @tereroberts6885 10 месяцев назад

    The intent of this pounamu being exclusive to Ngai Tahu shows a limitation. Unfortunately it will be a dying art of you do not create a Wananga Pounamu. The rock is powerless without the conductor. Your role in this Taronga Tuku Iho is to pass on the knowledge. Knowledge not shared is not knowledge.

  • @turock101
    @turock101 6 лет назад +3

    its a rock....why you crying over rock or wood? Nothing is more important than our saviour Jesus Christ

    • @richie3802
      @richie3802 5 лет назад +3

      It's more then a rock.

    • @wolfie83
      @wolfie83 5 лет назад

      Plenty is more important...

    • @woohooo7634
      @woohooo7634 4 года назад

      yes, but that doesn't mean you aren't allowed to value things in life

  • @janinekaretai4306
    @janinekaretai4306 2 года назад

    Bring the Tahutahi home!!!

  • @razzorbladz
    @razzorbladz 5 лет назад +4

    I don't think kiwi's settled in NZ long enough ago to have a mystic connection with a rock I mean 700 years ain't that long ago,but it's worth money so any claim on it is a good one

  • @tainuirobinson5198
    @tainuirobinson5198 7 лет назад

    put in back in the sea !!

    • @K9Karotu
      @K9Karotu 7 лет назад +4

      It comes from the mountains

  • @samanthaelliott7617
    @samanthaelliott7617 5 месяцев назад

    Why the tears?

  • @samanthaelliott7617
    @samanthaelliott7617 5 месяцев назад

    All about the$$$$