My husband cheated. It's humiliating and demoralizing to be cheated on and lied to by the one person you should trust more than any other. I hate cheaters...
A family friend was extremely religious, her husband cheated, she even went to her pastor; they told her to change herself and stay. I can’t imagine being in the depths of something like that
Dawne McGregor, same. It changes you as a person when you're betrayed by the one person who promised to love and protect you. I stuck around and we went to marriage counseling as I was hoping we could somehow get past it. My husband's father had cheated on his mother multiple times so I was being counseled by his mother to basically suck it up and stay married. After a year of marriage counseling I realized I just couldn't get past it and I filed for divorce. He remarried less than a year after our divorce and then she left him 3 years later after discovering he'd been having multiple affairs.
You should leave a cheater 100% of the time. I don't hate them as much as some people. I've been cheated on and I've cheated so I have a little insight. And I can tell you there's no need to be humiliated or internalize what they did because it's NEVER about you. It's always them just being selfish and not realizing the damage it does. But when a person is cheating it always means they aren't happy in the relationship and haven't really figured out a healthy way to express it. They eventually will though so don't forgive cheaters and don't take them back because that's eventually how it's going to end sooner or later
The reason is bc it’s not all for their husbands! These are not “real” Mormons. They are using the word Mormon to get views bc it’s different then the norm.
My parents had an open marriage from when I was age 10-14. When I was 14, they split up as a direct result of their polyamory - the reason behind their divorce still affects me to this day. I truly believe you’re right Josh, PARENTS should never experiment with this kind of thing because it will always have some sort of effect on the children, and the children should be the main priority, not the relationship.
Y’all LET ME TELL YOU, my mom is extremely self-absorbed, materialistic, and only cares about herself. Josh is spot on with “they only put themselves first” that is 100% true. It was really difficult growing up with a mom like that. As I got older, I was able to see what was going on and develop my own opinions. Currently we don’t have the best relationship.
I had a mom who would try to guilt me about my dad spending time with me my whole life. Any time we did something just the two of us she’d guilt me about how she didn’t spend time with him. Which is gross. But she’s definitely a put myself first mom too.
I relate to this so much. I never knew my moms toxic patterns until I was an adult, and now we do not talk at all. Sad but it has made me much happier but of course, I’m to blame. They are so blind and like you said… put themselves first
I’m so sorry you went through that, growing up I had a friend that pretty much lived with us because her mom was a narcissist and only cared about herself and not my friend.
I'm glad I found this channel it has definitely made me more confident in myself because I get to see how all these vloggers don't have the perfect lives they say they do.
Very much so everyone is too hard one themselves I’m no different. Social media was great at one point but the last 3 years with online movements it has gotten so toxic.
Great video. I appreciate your candor. I am a secular humanist in Utah and moved here for the scenery and amount of sunlight. Just signed a lease to finish my degree and once this lease is up I fully intend to get out of here. The LDS culture is…very heavy…and I didn’t expect it to weigh on me like it has. The superficiality and exclusivity of the LDS culture makes me sad. This woman and people like Ruby Franke cast a wide pall across an image obsessed group and the incongruity is nauseating for me. It’s too bad, because I know there are lovely people within the LDS church…all I can do is wish them the best. I also agree with your assertion that these people likely use the LDS name for notoriety, only, and clearly have internalized very little about that particular faith. With that said, it is my experience that hypocrisy has a very special home in the LDS faith due to the values associated with various types of abstinence…so they may be devout, in their opinion. Shit is weird here. Lmao P.S. My understanding is “Happy Valley” is a nickname for the Provo and surrounding area (Utah County)🤢🤮. Which means this “tool” in your video may live far too close to me for comfort. P.S.S. I may have had a little experience swinging, and a soft swap is typically in the same room where anything except penetration goes. As Taylor explains it, she simply cheated. Her qualifications are exasperating. Just admit you made a destructive choice to your marriage. Cut out all the BS. But, I know the BS and the clicks are the whole point. Exposing her involvement in the LS just makes her a more enticing masturbation object…which, again, leads to more followers and clicks. She is playing the situation perfectly, it appears.
I was raised Mormon.. She does not fit the Mormon standard. When I was Mormon we were preached to be modest! We had to cover up, even when I went swimming I wore a T-shirt over the top. We spoke about modesty often through all our teachings. Judging if we were not modest was a big thing. The other women would have made it hard to attend if you dressed like that. The bachelorette conversation wouldn’t have happened either. The Mormon bachelorette party is like going to a boring family get together! 😂 In my past experience this just doesn’t add up.. I don’t know how she would be Mormon?! We were told no man would want their wife to show their bodies off. Marriage and children was what we were supposed to do. We would marry in the temple, and were bonded to our husbands. Shocking to hear swinging anything 😂 I can go on! But she isn’t Mormon. That being said, the Mormon church has been changing.. I’m not that old, and they do things we were not allowed to do when I went.. I believe to try to get more people to join.
as an ex mormon, I would never “profit” from being a “mormon mom or milf” (lol) I dont want my name associated with the church 😵💫 I don’t know why she does. they’re clearly not active members haha
Did you hear what she said when asked if she would be kicked out? Something to the effect like they would not throw her out due to how many clicks they got because of her , Something to that effect . If true that sure doesn't sound like ANY type of church !
I'm baffled at the fact that she's talking about life changing earth-quaking things happening to her children because of her selfish choices (i.e.; breaking apart their family and uprooting them from their home) with absolutely no emotion or remorse. She's explaining it so non-chalantly as if she's just sharing a story of a daily normal inconvenience. So bizarre.
She has the biggest smile on her face when she says “We’re not swingers.” The only time she smiles during the whole thing while nodding yes. Her body language gives her away. It’s called duper’s delight and she’s bold face lying 🤥
“Can you imagine the smell?” I gigglesnorted- and I know I’m not the only one who thought about that. They won’t touch caffeine, but they’ll swap weens and vaggies. Cripes!
The videos of Whitney dancing to answer questions about her newborn was posted on one of my Facebook groups. I cringed so hard watching it. If I danced that awkwardly to tell my husband what I wanted for dinner I think he would leave me.
Back when I was a Mormon this would have been pulled up by the leaders in your church, she probably would have been excommunicated for not dressing modestly, for being over sexual... And around her kids - and for making her church and congregation look bad, we were always reminded that we represent our church etc
@@agirly1503 I never wore garments - because I live in FNQ Australia = it's too bloody hot, but I still dressed modestly. None of these people would have lasted in that congregation, and the men would have been in just as much shit for "allowing" their women to humiliate *them (a wife represents her husband and the church), and the church. These people are not Mormons.
I believe they fake that they are Mormon most of what she says is lies that’s why it’s hard to believe this as well. Don’t know much about her so not sure how true the Mormon thing is.
My daughter watches these ladies and has an incredible talent of finding the details on everything. It’s wild, she was just telling me all about this. I was pretty shocked that they are all members of the LDS church.
Being "religious" doesn't automatically make anyone a good person with decent morals. Actually, a lot of religious people "rebel" in some way due to being repressed either in the childhood or adulthood.
@@elabarsvaryova5223 And more porn is subscribed to per person in Utah than in any other state. But I'm sure if you asked mormons individualy, you would have no one answer that they view porn.
Actually in the Mormon Bible it DOES say "your body is a temple" and you're not supposed to get tattoos, cosmetic surgery or anything that changes your body. Hell you're not even supposed to drink coffee, tea or soda lol and I grew up in the LDS church so I know this for fact
I know that this was months ago but something that bothered me was that someone asked her if the church was going to kick her out and she said no because the church has never received so many clicks and basically that they wouldn't kick her out for bringing them so much attention and the fact her children are extremely now known because this situation so of course this will affect them when they are little older When you mentioned the kids being there while they are doing that I agree hopefully they were at grandmas...my husband and I are EXTREMELY careful our kids never hear anything or walk in because that is my biggest fear of traumatizing my kids
The majority of the time, according to my granddaughter’s pediatrician, this tend to happen when the mother’s don’t give them tummy time. I saw it with my niece’s baby and she would use the car seat, swing and the playpen as babysitters while she had “Me Time” and her baby had to use one of these contraptions. Instead of playing and giving the baby as much of your “ME TIME (MOMMY TIME)” we see the children use these more and more, not like the past. If they are born with this condition then it’s a different story but not when they need it after 11 months that’s mommy’s fault.
Yep! It's crazy how the purity and modesty culture BS in all of these conservative Christian cults seems to backfire. They all have such a weird relationship with sex. Just look at Josh Duggar 🤢
In my perhaps unpopular opinion...her husband shares part of the blame. Drinking to excess and skirting the line of immorality...consenting or not..it's playing with fire and while she is wrong he should take some accountability ...any man (and vise versa) that is willing to share there spouse in any type of immorality there's a problem there from the onset..
All this cheating going around ( because that's what it is) with these influencers is just ridiculous and nasty especially how they go about doing it and when there are kids in the mix... and the way she keeps using the word belligerent is annoying like girl stop alcohol wasn't the cause of it I think they would have done it without having any alcohol.
I’m lds and this is Utah not all of us. I don’t really believe they are lds because we aren’t supposed to be dressing like this. They just know it’s popular. When I saw this I knew it was trouble. Outside of Utah we are normal. Stop letting people like this represent us. We are good people.
THIS! Utah Mormons culture is disgusting and toxic. Outside of Utah we are not like this at ALL. We are normal. So normal that people can’t even tell I’m Mormon😂
Ok first of all the woman is gorgeous but her moves are sloppy and frantic. This lady hit her peak in college but was very unpopular in high school….I’m calling it now!
I think you are being kind to say that these are highly attractive women. None of them look real, and I think that's such a turn off. If men like that, more power to them. But that's certainly not what I aspire to look like as a woman.
Her eyes are just showing the lie. She is thinking really hard when looking down or looking up. She isn’t talking straight into the camera. She usually looks straight at the camera. It’s like when you ask the kids how the window broke and they don’t want to get in trouble but it’s obvious they did it but are trying to soften it to safe face.
Must be something about mormons and people from Utah. My husband lied for 14 years. He put never divorced, but clearly he lied. He was divorced. He also had two kids with two other women, and I am not best friends with one of them. Anyways, I asked him for the truth. He refused, so I asked for a divorce. He remarried before our divorce was even over. Yes, he committed bigamy. A crime in California that is not enforced. Can’t wait for the day she finds out their marriage is not valid. 😂
These people are 10000% NOT Mormon! They may say they are but I doubt they actually practice or are accepted by the church/community. I live in an area where the LDS religion is very popular and I don’t know a single Mormon who drinks, AT ALL, swings, dresses even slightly revealing, or is open about their ‘personal life’, because all of that is strictly AGAINST, their religion!
I need to correct you on something here; as an Ex-Mormon myself, while it is practiced and preferred for couples to be married and sealed in the temple it is also not required. Therefore you can still practice and be apart of the LDS faith without all the temple hooplah.
My feelings have always been that if you cheat on your spouse, you cheat on your kids. I could maybe forgive my husband for cheating on me, but I don't think I could handle staying with someone who had betrayed my children and our family as a whole. (I'm talking about betrayal here, not an open agreement, although that's not for me either. )
Ok so I was watching some ppl who were dissing you and your content and I honestly have watched numerous videos and I don't see it. You're literally doing what they're doing anyways I was waiting for this one!!! Something about Mormons intrigue the hell outta me!!!
Well yes ! The divorce - this is the other thing with Mormons, they highly encourage/steer the men in their congregation towards having influential jobs, they push them towards jobs as lawyers, police enforcement, child protection, politics so that when members within the congregation need help = it's in-house help. When I became a Mormon I was a single teen mum, my son's father was absent but he would turn up being violent and threatening to kill us at 2 and 3 in the morning on random occasions, the church helped me to get a restraining order... Which I quickly realized was just a piece of paper and wouldn't help me - then I was invited into the office and offered for the church to deal with him, members in my congregation were lawyers and they would have him put away. My ex's father was a cop (a dirty one), and I realized that at some point my ex would get out.. What then. So I bought a car, a dome tent, and we hit the road for 2 years instead. She may be making money from it - but her content will be used against her in court, I don't expect it will end well for her.
Heyyyy new follower here!!! I can’t believe I have never come across your channel before. I love how you are spreading awareness about the children. Boycott Disney!!!
Walt Disney was an evil pedo..the Disney logo 666 in it...all the private parts " hidden" all over there movies...I could go on and on .. people do not know the background on them.
How are they always wearing such revealing clothing and why are they drinking to the point of drunkenness? If you want to do that fine but to do all those things unapologetically and then still say you’re Mormon just doesn’t make sense.
I think they’re trying to say Camille and her husband are out of it because she has step kids. Her husband was married before and that will probably make them lose their step kids to their biological mom!
Can you please cover Meg Leigh !!!! She constantly complains about her life, her husband treats her like trash, and now she’s pregnant with her 2nd kid.
unfortunately, she will never go off social media. this drama is how she makes her money and she knows it. she would never be able to find a real job after all of this
She's Mormon? The outfits are not very modest. My friend was a Mormon, she always had to have her shoulders covered, skirts had to touch her knees, and no dipped neck lines. Even though she is now an apostite she still dresses very modest
Watch Jordan and Mckay’s video. They go more in depth with the whole mormon thing, but yeah they are supposedly mormon but definitely don’t follow the rules.
Yeah that’s a good way to put it!!!! I feel like I was jealous in a way of these woman… (the handsome Husband, Beautiful large grand home, many children, luxury cars, and lots of money) I waisted a lot of time being jealous, envious of these woman.. I’m just fine alone with my 1son 🙇🏽♀️ lol
Someone has probably said this already but soft swinging doesn’t include any partner swapping. It’s your own partner in the same room with another couple(s)
Maybe it’s whatever “terms of agreement” the people involved set? But I have no idea. Maybe you’re right and she’s just trying to convince herself. 😂 The way she explained it is that they def swapped. And call me naive or whatever, but idk she made it sound like the other two are just standing there watching? Are they being intimate with each other too, just hanging out in the same room or literally just standing there being creepy? 😂😂😂
@@brantlie_boone no I think you’re right, that is what she said. I guess what I meant was that SHE is using the term incorrectly according to definition. 😊
@@courtneymason8858 I bet she’s just trying to use the term soft swinging to make it seem less “provocative” or whatever the term should be since they are “Mormon” and shouldn’t be doing stuff like this anyways? She’s clearly trying to convince herself that she is not the only one in the wrong here that’s for sure! And yes, let’s just go with the other people are creepers! 😂
The tiktok dances are creepy. I’ve only seen one kid doing a tiktok dance on the sidewalk (I live in Korea). It’s a pathetic attempt at fame and attention. I guess a few succeed with fame.
My husband grew up in the Mormon church. They get the sister wives to call him all the time to this day. They literally pimp their women out hoping they will get someone in their church. Gross.
It’s honestly sad that Mormon women are stuck inside this weird serve ur husband type crap.. it’s seems like such a cult type thing… it’s funny because the Mormon people ik my neighbors have kids that are my age they’ve invited me to parties before & they are always getting f-d up like hardcore drinking partying & everything but because they are Married to their husbands it’s like all okay? Idk it’s so strange what they deem “acceptable “ & “unacceptable “ it’s feels like these made up rulebooks made by a man who decides oh I want this or that
When I was growing up, girls and women were often shamed for not dressing modestly if they were Mormon. Because there is so much patriarchy and misogyny in Mormon culture, women and girls would get told that it was their responsibility to "protect" men and boys from bad thoughts. And the way to do that was to cover up our shoulders and knees. Kind of triggering to watch Taylor flout all those rules. She must be hated in her ward. Either that, or she has "bought" her friends, by treating them to things like expensive lunches out or whatever. Edit: just remembered who Taylor's dancing reminded me of. Did she take lessons from the woman in the Bramty videos? And just leave out the part where she beats up her husband?
You ask "why lie" , because if the church finds out they will be called to a disciplinary council and be either disfellow-shipped or excommunicated. Which brings shame to them and their families. Sounds like they are trying to avoid that IF they actually participated in the swinging.
They aren't MORMONS, they are just pretending it for the taboo & followings. Even if they are MORMONS , they surely aren't or weren't a part of CHRUCH. CHURCHES are very strict about clothing & other behaviors
None of them are active Mormons …so they won’t be summoned because they dont actually go to church. There claim to Mormonism is that their parents attend and they were raised that way … it none of them got married in the temple or sealed or anything
@@lesley8655they won’t …unless they try and come back to church then they will be …but what they do while not attending the church is not concerned with . It’s only when they want to be participating members that they will have to go through the process to prove repentance
It's funny to hear Taylor explain how "idk, I think this is what soft swinging is" or "it's how it was explained to me". It's like girl, you mean to tell me, or the world for that matter, on a live, that you did what you did, but really don't know what it even means or what you were doing? Really? Ok, sure Jan! I also want to say that I totally agree with you Josh, when you were talking about when people who have absolutely everything, still aren't happy. Meaning, for some of these women, I'm not gonna say all of them, because idk any of them, but for some, it's obvious, that they are definitely the type that are like, "I know I could sleep with her husband if I wanted too. Or the, I want what she has. Her husband is so good to her, why doesn't my husband do that for me," types. I've been around women like this. But all in all, imo, there had to be plenty of shit going on in their marriages before, that wasn't going well, before their friend group came along. Especially in Taylor & Tate's. Edit: & she also dropped a bunch of threats, saying I got receipts, texts, pictures, etc... WOW!
as somebody that used to be mormon for 6 years mormon women do not behave like this they don’t dress the way taylor dresses they don’t dance around tik tok like strippers shaking their @$$es for the whole world to see taylor frankie paul is not a real mormon i don’t care what anyone says this woman is not a real mormon she follows none of the rules and even confirmed that she sometimes goes to church. alcohol and coffee are prohibited and frowned upon in the church but that’s not the ultimate reason why i don’t believe these people are really mormon the reason why i don’t believe she’s really a mormon and has no right to even claim that religion is the fact that she had an affair on her husband broke her family up because she was the one that opened that door was sleeping with her friend’s husband that will automatically get you excommunicated from the church. also news travels fast in the mormon community i she’s really mormon she would have gotten excommunicated and wouldn’t be able to even show her face in church.
People are saying that she lied about the group being "swingers" .... so that, she does not look as bad for cheating. True or not the victims are the little ones of all the couples involved imagine when they grow up and see this effin video of her. 😓😓😓
This wouldn’t make sense though because Taylor says she has receipts that show everyone else was involved. & there’s pictures of Taylor & Miranda naked doing stuff together.
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Why do these “ influencers” feel the need to disclose their personal life and apologize to their viewers?
My husband cheated. It's humiliating and demoralizing to be cheated on and lied to by the one person you should trust more than any other. I hate cheaters...
A family friend was extremely religious, her husband cheated, she even went to her pastor; they told her to change herself and stay. I can’t imagine being in the depths of something like that
Dawne McGregor, same. It changes you as a person when you're betrayed by the one person who promised to love and protect you. I stuck around and we went to marriage counseling as I was hoping we could somehow get past it. My husband's father had cheated on his mother multiple times so I was being counseled by his mother to basically suck it up and stay married. After a year of marriage counseling I realized I just couldn't get past it and I filed for divorce. He remarried less than a year after our divorce and then she left him 3 years later after discovering he'd been having multiple affairs.
My heart breaks for you, it's the worst pain besides losing someone to death imo. It's not your fault, he's a dick and you're sooooo much better
She not much of a prize either
You should leave a cheater 100% of the time.
I don't hate them as much as some people. I've been cheated on and I've cheated so I have a little insight. And I can tell you there's no need to be humiliated or internalize what they did because it's NEVER about you. It's always them just being selfish and not realizing the damage it does.
But when a person is cheating it always means they aren't happy in the relationship and haven't really figured out a healthy way to express it.
They eventually will though so don't forgive cheaters and don't take them back because that's eventually how it's going to end sooner or later
Anyone else watching this after the Mormon wives show came out 😂😂
Had to come research 😂
@@mandseycarter9927 I saw the show and was like omg I hope DCP did coverage LOL
I had to revisit with a new set of eyes 😂
The reason is bc it’s not all for their husbands! These are not “real” Mormons. They are using the word Mormon to get views bc it’s different then the norm.
Yeah I agree, true Mormons won’t even drink caffeine lol. Like Josh mentioned they are just capitalizing on the online Mormon culture.
@@The_Lion_And_The_Lamb I do know Mormons who find ways around the coffee thing…they drink energy drinks or pre workout instead 😂
@@Mahomesfan615 yeah, I’m sure there are.
@@Mahomesfan615 wait, you can’t even have COFFEE as a Mormon???
😳😳😳😳
@@keljells Hot caffeinated beverages are a no go. Which is weird right?
Instantly slammed the subscribe button! You are saying what needs to be said and pointing out such an important issue here - the kids!
My parents had an open marriage from when I was age 10-14. When I was 14, they split up as a direct result of their polyamory - the reason behind their divorce still affects me to this day. I truly believe you’re right Josh, PARENTS should never experiment with this kind of thing because it will always have some sort of effect on the children, and the children should be the main priority, not the relationship.
More like parents should protect their children's childhood, and keep their sex life far far away from their parent identity.
I have honestly never ever heard of a relationship staying in tact after being polyamorous.
Sorry that you had to be involved in that confusion
Why does Mormonism feel like a massive MLM Scheme 😅
It really does!!! Lol
Because it is
You do know mormons are kings of MLMs, right?! Toxic cult to grow up, I know first hand
It's no different than any other social tribal group scam. But it's one that people can bash without any worry about the cancel mob.
It is one. Literally.
Y’all LET ME TELL YOU, my mom is extremely self-absorbed, materialistic, and only cares about herself. Josh is spot on with “they only put themselves first” that is 100% true. It was really difficult growing up with a mom like that. As I got older, I was able to see what was going on and develop my own opinions. Currently we don’t have the best relationship.
I had a mom who would try to guilt me about my dad spending time with me my whole life. Any time we did something just the two of us she’d guilt me about how she didn’t spend time with him. Which is gross. But she’s definitely a put myself first mom too.
Big same! ❤️
I relate to this so much. I never knew my moms toxic patterns until I was an adult, and now we do not talk at all. Sad but it has made me much happier but of course, I’m to blame. They are so blind and like you said… put themselves first
My birthday sometimes falls on Mother’s Day so growing up.. I’m sure you can imagine how that went with my mom.
I’m so sorry you went through that, growing up I had a friend that pretty much lived with us because her mom was a narcissist and only cared about herself and not my friend.
I'm glad I found this channel it has definitely made me more confident in myself because I get to see how all these vloggers don't have the perfect lives they say they do.
Same. I used to compare myself to all these people too, but I’ve realized that I’ve got my shit more together than most of them! 😜
Please don’t compare yourself unfavourably- it’s all fake fake fake
@@withoutorigin Pretty sure that was sarcasm on his part! Love it
Right I used to think they were all putting out mostly real content
Very much so everyone is too hard one themselves I’m no different. Social media was great at one point but the last 3 years with online movements it has gotten so toxic.
Josh... I literally choked when you said mormans have to look like chef boyardee when they get married. Lol
Also me... you skipped #5 lol
I just got it 🤣
Been with you since
Great video. I appreciate your candor. I am a secular humanist in Utah and moved here for the scenery and amount of sunlight. Just signed a lease to finish my degree and once this lease is up I fully intend to get out of here. The LDS culture is…very heavy…and I didn’t expect it to weigh on me like it has. The superficiality and exclusivity of the LDS culture makes me sad. This woman and people like Ruby Franke cast a wide pall across an image obsessed group and the incongruity is nauseating for me. It’s too bad, because I know there are lovely people within the LDS church…all I can do is wish them the best. I also agree with your assertion that these people likely use the LDS name for notoriety, only, and clearly have internalized very little about that particular faith. With that said, it is my experience that hypocrisy has a very special home in the LDS faith due to the values associated with various types of abstinence…so they may be devout, in their opinion. Shit is weird here. Lmao
P.S. My understanding is “Happy Valley” is a nickname for the Provo and surrounding area (Utah County)🤢🤮. Which means this “tool” in your video may live far too close to me for comfort.
P.S.S. I may have had a little experience swinging, and a soft swap is typically in the same room where anything except penetration goes. As Taylor explains it, she simply cheated. Her qualifications are exasperating. Just admit you made a destructive choice to your marriage. Cut out all the BS. But, I know the BS and the clicks are the whole point. Exposing her involvement in the LS just makes her a more enticing masturbation object…which, again, leads to more followers and clicks. She is playing the situation perfectly, it appears.
I love you....”she’s wearing a bath suit, with jogging pants.”🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣.
Bathing
I was raised Mormon.. She does not fit the Mormon standard. When I was Mormon we were preached to be modest! We had to cover up, even when I went swimming I wore a T-shirt over the top.
We spoke about modesty often through all our teachings. Judging if we were not modest was a big thing. The other women would have made it hard to attend if you dressed like that.
The bachelorette conversation wouldn’t have happened either. The Mormon bachelorette party is like going to a boring family get together! 😂
In my past experience this just doesn’t add up.. I don’t know how she would be Mormon?! We were told no man would want their wife to show their bodies off.
Marriage and children was what we were supposed to do. We would marry in the temple, and were bonded to our husbands. Shocking to hear swinging anything 😂
I can go on! But she isn’t Mormon. That being said, the Mormon church has been changing.. I’m not that old, and they do things we were not allowed to do when I went.. I believe to try to get more people to join.
as an ex mormon, I would never “profit” from being a “mormon mom or milf” (lol) I dont want my name associated with the church 😵💫 I don’t know why she does. they’re clearly not active members haha
Did you hear what she said when asked if she would be kicked out? Something to the effect like they would not throw her out due to how many clicks they got because of her , Something to that effect . If true that sure doesn't sound like ANY type of church !
@@lesley8655 may I ask the main reason why you say you wouldn't. I'm not familiar with Mormon churches.
I'm baffled at the fact that she's talking about life changing earth-quaking things happening to her children because of her selfish choices (i.e.; breaking apart their family and uprooting them from their home) with absolutely no emotion or remorse. She's explaining it so non-chalantly as if she's just sharing a story of a daily normal inconvenience. So bizarre.
She has the biggest smile on her face when she says “We’re not swingers.” The only time she smiles during the whole thing while nodding yes. Her body language gives her away. It’s called duper’s delight and she’s bold face lying 🤥
I'm still confused...sister wives are frumpy what sect are they from? If that's even a thing
Thank you for covering this. I want to be as caught up in the drama as everyone, but I don’t get it so I need a dad challenge recap and lowdown.
“Can you imagine the smell?”
I gigglesnorted- and I know I’m not the only one who thought about that.
They won’t touch caffeine, but they’ll swap weens and vaggies.
Cripes!
“Go over to kyra’s house, she’s got a drawer full of things” 😂😂😂
I'm like no don't go there she will help them ruin their marriage lol
Righttt
Finally, someone who agrees that TIKTOK SUCKS !
The videos of Whitney dancing to answer questions about her newborn was posted on one of my Facebook groups. I cringed so hard watching it. If I danced that awkwardly to tell my husband what I wanted for dinner I think he would leave me.
She also posted videos of her dancing when her child was in the hospital struggling to breathe.
"Their all Mormon Weiner's...". They really are Josh, they really are 😂😂😂😂
I’m fucking *SCREAMINGGG!!*
“ It’s you dude!! It smells like onions! & too much hair too!”
Back when I was a Mormon this would have been pulled up by the leaders in your church, she probably would have been excommunicated for not dressing modestly, for being over sexual... And around her kids - and for making her church and congregation look bad, we were always reminded that we represent our church etc
And none of them are wearing garmets.
Absolutely. This.
@@agirly1503 I never wore garments - because I live in FNQ Australia = it's too bloody hot, but I still dressed modestly.
None of these people would have lasted in that congregation, and the men would have been in just as much shit for "allowing" their women to humiliate *them (a wife represents her husband and the church), and the church.
These people are not Mormons.
@@tuathadesidhe1530 yes!
I believe they fake that they are Mormon most of what she says is lies that’s why it’s hard to believe this as well. Don’t know much about her so not sure how true the Mormon thing is.
I was a Mormon for over 40 yrs. And you are spot on with everything you said.
My daughter watches these ladies and has an incredible talent of finding the details on everything. It’s wild, she was just telling me all about this. I was pretty shocked that they are all members of the LDS church.
Was she able to verify that they really are (or were now) Mormons?
They don't have temple recommends FOR SURE and are at risk for excommunication. "Jack" Mormons.
Being "religious" doesn't automatically make anyone a good person with decent morals. Actually, a lot of religious people "rebel" in some way due to being repressed either in the childhood or adulthood.
@@elabarsvaryova5223 Yeah that’s common sense.
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And more porn is subscribed to per person in Utah than in any other state.
But I'm sure if you asked mormons individualy, you would have no one answer that they view porn.
Actually in the Mormon Bible it DOES say "your body is a temple" and you're not supposed to get tattoos, cosmetic surgery or anything that changes your body. Hell you're not even supposed to drink coffee, tea or soda lol and I grew up in the LDS church so I know this for fact
"yeah, just throw your whole marriage away for a wake up call...cool go find yourself" lolololol
I am so glad you broke this all down for us because I'd heard mutterings about it but could not be bothered to figure it out myself
I know that this was months ago but something that bothered me was that someone asked her if the church was going to kick her out and she said no because the church has never received so many clicks and basically that they wouldn't kick her out for bringing them so much attention and the fact her children are extremely now known because this situation so of course this will affect them when they are little older
When you mentioned the kids being there while they are doing that I agree hopefully they were at grandmas...my husband and I are EXTREMELY careful our kids never hear anything or walk in because that is my biggest fear of traumatizing my kids
The majority of the time, according to my granddaughter’s pediatrician, this tend to happen when the mother’s don’t give them tummy time. I saw it with my niece’s baby and she would use the car seat, swing and the playpen as babysitters while she had “Me Time” and her baby had to use one of these contraptions. Instead of playing and giving the baby as much of your “ME TIME (MOMMY TIME)” we see the children use these more and more, not like the past. If they are born with this condition then it’s a different story but not when they need it after 11 months that’s mommy’s fault.
“i know it smelled crazy in there” 🤣
I’m so glad you’re talking about this!!
She needs to stop wearing children’s clothing that a 3rd grader would wear and shop in the adult section.
You just nailed Ashley Gardner. I’ve never seen a more self absorbed mother in my like. She is so disconnected from her kids is sad and sickening
Totally agree
DO NOT get me started on Ashley Gardner!!! Those children have been put in danger SOOOOOO many times!!!!
This kind of shit makes me so happy to be normal. 😂
Yep! It's crazy how the purity and modesty culture BS in all of these conservative Christian cults seems to backfire. They all have such a weird relationship with sex. Just look at Josh Duggar 🤢
In my perhaps unpopular opinion...her husband shares part of the blame. Drinking to excess and skirting the line of immorality...consenting or not..it's playing with fire and while she is wrong he should take some accountability ...any man (and vise versa) that is willing to share there spouse in any type of immorality there's a problem there from the onset..
I always love when Josh yells out, YAS QUEEN.
I was waiting for you to cover this!!
thank you, this video is my favorite in a while.. hit so many great points. 👍🏼 screenshotted wo many parts and youtubers are the new reality show.
I love when Sam comes to snuggle and purrs into the mic!! He's a cutie.
Just as an FYI, I checked Utah court records and the Paul’s have not filed anything regarding a divorce yet.
She almost always lies about stuff, so that wouldn’t be surprising.
It could be a publicity stunt
@@marinae1495, that would be a pretty messed up one.
So where can we find you to keep ourselves updated on the DIVORCE proceedings . Maybe link your socials or anywhere you share this information
@@user-erick007 So I just checked again, and Tate actually filed a divorce petition today.
All this cheating going around ( because that's what it is) with these influencers is just ridiculous and nasty especially how they go about doing it and when there are kids in the mix... and the way she keeps using the word belligerent is annoying like girl stop alcohol wasn't the cause of it I think they would have done it without having any alcohol.
I’m lds and this is Utah not all of us. I don’t really believe they are lds because we aren’t supposed to be dressing like this. They just know it’s popular. When I saw this I knew it was trouble. Outside of Utah we are normal. Stop letting people like this represent us. We are good people.
Yea exactly. This is more Utah culture, not Mormon culture. Mormons outside of Utah are normal people I promise 😂
THIS! Utah Mormons culture is disgusting and toxic. Outside of Utah we are not like this at ALL. We are normal. So normal that people can’t even tell I’m Mormon😂
Ok first of all the woman is gorgeous but her moves are sloppy and frantic. This lady hit her peak in college but was very unpopular in high school….I’m calling it now!
Ha. Been waiting for you to post your views and thoughts on this ! & the tea game is so on josh and I’m here for it man!!! ☺️☺️
I think you are being kind to say that these are highly attractive women. None of them look real, and I think that's such a turn off. If men like that, more power to them. But that's certainly not what I aspire to look like as a woman.
Her eyes are just showing the lie. She is thinking really hard when looking down or looking up. She isn’t talking straight into the camera. She usually looks straight at the camera. It’s like when you ask the kids how the window broke and they don’t want to get in trouble but it’s obvious they did it but are trying to soften it to safe face.
She sound like she's trying to convince herself that they're not swingers.... that's why she keeps REPEATING HERSELF!!
Must be something about mormons and people from Utah. My husband lied for 14 years. He put never divorced, but clearly he lied. He was divorced. He also had two kids with two other women, and I am not best friends with one of them. Anyways, I asked him for the truth. He refused, so I asked for a divorce. He remarried before our divorce was even over. Yes, he committed bigamy. A crime in California that is not enforced. Can’t wait for the day she finds out their marriage is not valid. 😂
These people are 10000% NOT Mormon! They may say they are but I doubt they actually practice or are accepted by the church/community. I live in an area where the LDS religion is very popular and I don’t know a single Mormon who drinks, AT ALL, swings, dresses even slightly revealing, or is open about their ‘personal life’, because all of that is strictly AGAINST, their religion!
Imagine leaving your kids every weekend to go to these parties 😒
I need to correct you on something here; as an Ex-Mormon myself, while it is practiced and preferred for couples to be married and sealed in the temple it is also not required. Therefore you can still practice and be apart of the LDS faith without all the temple hooplah.
great channel--so glad i found it!
My feelings have always been that if you cheat on your spouse, you cheat on your kids. I could maybe forgive my husband for cheating on me, but I don't think I could handle staying with someone who had betrayed my children and our family as a whole. (I'm talking about betrayal here, not an open agreement, although that's not for me either. )
Ok so I was watching some ppl who were dissing you and your content and I honestly have watched numerous videos and I don't see it. You're literally doing what they're doing anyways I was waiting for this one!!! Something about Mormons intrigue the hell outta me!!!
Well yes ! The divorce - this is the other thing with Mormons, they highly encourage/steer the men in their congregation towards having influential jobs, they push them towards jobs as lawyers, police enforcement, child protection, politics so that when members within the congregation need help = it's in-house help.
When I became a Mormon I was a single teen mum, my son's father was absent but he would turn up being violent and threatening to kill us at 2 and 3 in the morning on random occasions, the church helped me to get a restraining order... Which I quickly realized was just a piece of paper and wouldn't help me - then I was invited into the office and offered for the church to deal with him, members in my congregation were lawyers and they would have him put away. My ex's father was a cop (a dirty one), and I realized that at some point my ex would get out.. What then. So I bought a car, a dome tent, and we hit the road for 2 years instead.
She may be making money from it - but her content will be used against her in court, I don't expect it will end well for her.
Aside from the swinging, the way this sounds and how she talks reminds me of the drama that exists in middle school. How are these adults?
I freaking love your channel
Im really tired of people like this being famous and wealthy.
I went down a weird Mormon rabbit hole last night after seeing this 🤣
The amount of times these women touch their hair is ridiculous.
Heyyyy new follower here!!! I can’t believe I have never come across your channel before. I love how you are spreading awareness about the children. Boycott Disney!!!
Walt Disney was an evil pedo..the Disney logo 666 in it...all the private parts " hidden" all over there movies...I could go on and on .. people do not know the background on them.
Spot on dude! It's really shocking what society is producing now, and sadly their children will be even worse. Disgusting human beings....
How are they always wearing such revealing clothing and why are they drinking to the point of drunkenness? If you want to do that fine but to do all those things unapologetically and then still say you’re Mormon just doesn’t make sense.
“A Mormon sex party” I can’t 🤣🤣🤣
I think they’re trying to say Camille and her husband are out of it because she has step kids. Her husband was married before and that will probably make them lose their step kids to their biological mom!
Can you please cover Meg Leigh !!!! She constantly complains about her life, her husband treats her like trash, and now she’s pregnant with her 2nd kid.
You are HILARIOUS!!! had me cracking up the whole time 😂
My new favorite quote “you have to look like chef boy rd “ sooooo accurate
I have no idea what this is but I'm excited to learn🙏❤
Real housewives of Utah 😂
Loving this breakdown - also will you be covering the cleopatra family further so crazy eh!
Josh “try something different, buy some equipment” 😂😂😂😂
"go to Kyra's house, she's got a whole drawer of it"😂 this had me dead hahaha
@@mslisa6824 😂😂
unfortunately, she will never go off social media. this drama is how she makes her money and she knows it. she would never be able to find a real job after all of this
What a great idea! Let's sleep with our friends! What could possibly go wrong?🤦🏾♀️ What is wrong with these people?
Good Mormons...I don't follow any tiktokers, but I just love watching you Josh!!! Lol
She's Mormon? The outfits are not very modest.
My friend was a Mormon, she always had to have her shoulders covered, skirts had to touch her knees, and no dipped neck lines. Even though she is now an apostite she still dresses very modest
Watch Jordan and Mckay’s video. They go more in depth with the whole mormon thing, but yeah they are supposedly mormon but definitely don’t follow the rules.
That Wren Elenor account on tik tok is disturbing! I’d love to see you cover her mom, it’s so bad!
“Go over to Kyra’s house” 🤣🤣🤣
Yeah that’s a good way to put it!!!! I feel like I was jealous in a way of these woman… (the handsome Husband, Beautiful large grand home, many children, luxury cars, and lots of money) I waisted a lot of time being jealous, envious of these woman..
I’m just fine alone with my 1son 🙇🏽♀️ lol
Thank you for this video lol I’ve been so interested but hadn’t gone down the rabbit hole yet!
This is very common in the Mormon culture. They are Mormon, they just aren’t sealed. A lot of active Mormons aren’t sealed
Am I the only one that is up for Josh to do a drama channel.. I’m here for this
Someone has probably said this already but soft swinging doesn’t include any partner swapping. It’s your own partner in the same room with another couple(s)
Maybe it’s whatever “terms of agreement” the people involved set? But I have no idea. Maybe you’re right and she’s just trying to convince herself. 😂 The way she explained it is that they def swapped. And call me naive or whatever, but idk she made it sound like the other two are just standing there watching? Are they being intimate with each other too, just hanging out in the same room or literally just standing there being creepy? 😂😂😂
@@brantlie_boone no I think you’re right, that is what she said. I guess what I meant was that SHE is using the term incorrectly according to definition. 😊
@@brantlie_boone and also I like to imagine they are just standing there creepily watching like you said lol
@@courtneymason8858 I bet she’s just trying to use the term soft swinging to make it seem less “provocative” or whatever the term should be since they are “Mormon” and shouldn’t be doing stuff like this anyways? She’s clearly trying to convince herself that she is not the only one in the wrong here that’s for sure! And yes, let’s just go with the other people are creepers! 😂
The tiktok dances are creepy. I’ve only seen one kid doing a tiktok dance on the sidewalk (I live in Korea). It’s a pathetic attempt at fame and attention. I guess a few succeed with fame.
My husband grew up in the Mormon church. They get the sister wives to call him all the time to this day. They literally pimp their women out hoping they will get someone in their church. Gross.
That is not true 😂 but ok
@@Em-ku1ht oK 👍
These people are never MORMONS they just pretend to be as it serves them with popularity & fame
There are couples that where said to be involved that DELETED THEIR ACCOUNTS AFTER THIS CAME OUT
They seem to lie on their channel quite a bit so I’m thinking it’s a publicity stunt.
It’s honestly sad that Mormon women are stuck inside this weird serve ur husband type crap.. it’s seems like such a cult type thing… it’s funny because the Mormon people ik my neighbors have kids that are my age they’ve invited me to parties before & they are always getting f-d up like hardcore drinking partying & everything but because they are Married to their husbands it’s like all okay? Idk it’s so strange what they deem “acceptable “ & “unacceptable “ it’s feels like these made up rulebooks made by a man who decides oh I want this or that
I’m speechless…well not really, but this is not worth my time or brainpower to talk about! Love you JoshFam!!!XOXOXO
When I was growing up, girls and women were often shamed for not dressing modestly if they were Mormon. Because there is so much patriarchy and misogyny in Mormon culture, women and girls would get told that it was their responsibility to "protect" men and boys from bad thoughts. And the way to do that was to cover up our shoulders and knees.
Kind of triggering to watch Taylor flout all those rules. She must be hated in her ward. Either that, or she has "bought" her friends, by treating them to things like expensive lunches out or whatever.
Edit: just remembered who Taylor's dancing reminded me of. Did she take lessons from the woman in the Bramty videos? And just leave out the part where she beats up her husband?
You ask "why lie" , because if the church finds out they will be called to a disciplinary council and be either disfellow-shipped or excommunicated. Which brings shame to them and their families. Sounds like they are trying to avoid that IF they actually participated in the swinging.
Well this is now all over the internet. The church I'm sure has been notified. Cant imagine how that will go down. Lol
even if they’re not active members, I wonder if they’ll be excommunicated lol
They aren't MORMONS, they are just pretending it for the taboo & followings. Even if they are MORMONS , they surely aren't or weren't a part of CHRUCH. CHURCHES are very strict about clothing & other behaviors
None of them are active Mormons …so they won’t be summoned because they dont actually go to church. There claim to Mormonism is that their parents attend and they were raised that way … it none of them got married in the temple or sealed or anything
@@lesley8655they won’t …unless they try and come back to church then they will be …but what they do while not attending the church is not concerned with . It’s only when they want to be participating members that they will have to go through the process to prove repentance
It's funny to hear Taylor explain how "idk, I think this is what soft swinging is" or "it's how it was explained to me".
It's like girl, you mean to tell me, or the world for that matter, on a live, that you did what you did, but really don't know what it even means or what you were doing? Really? Ok, sure Jan!
I also want to say that I totally agree with you Josh, when you were talking about when people who have absolutely everything, still aren't happy. Meaning, for some of these women, I'm not gonna say all of them, because idk any of them, but for some, it's obvious, that they are definitely the type that are like, "I know I could sleep with her husband if I wanted too. Or the, I want what she has. Her husband is so good to her, why doesn't my husband do that for me," types. I've been around women like this. But all in all, imo, there had to be plenty of shit going on in their marriages before, that wasn't going well, before their friend group came along. Especially in Taylor & Tate's.
Edit: & she also dropped a bunch of threats, saying I got receipts, texts, pictures, etc... WOW!
If they all had jobs they would not have time for being drunk and s parties.
as somebody that used to be mormon for 6 years mormon women do not behave like this they don’t dress the way taylor dresses they don’t dance around tik tok like strippers shaking their @$$es for the whole world to see taylor frankie paul is not a real mormon i don’t care what anyone says this woman is not a real mormon she follows none of the rules and even confirmed that she sometimes goes to church. alcohol and coffee are prohibited and frowned upon in the church but that’s not the ultimate reason why i don’t believe these people are really mormon the reason why i don’t believe she’s really a mormon and has no right to even claim that religion is the fact that she had an affair on her husband broke her family up because she was the one that opened that door was sleeping with her friend’s husband that will automatically get you excommunicated from the church. also news travels fast in the mormon community i she’s really mormon she would have gotten excommunicated and wouldn’t be able to even show her face in church.
You need like a “Sam cam” transition or something for every time he visits for pets 😂
People are saying that she lied about the group being "swingers" .... so that, she does not look as bad for cheating. True or not the victims are the little ones of all the couples involved imagine when they grow up and see this effin video of her. 😓😓😓
This wouldn’t make sense though because Taylor says she has receipts that show everyone else was involved. & there’s pictures of Taylor & Miranda naked doing stuff together.
She keeps using the word biligerent in the wrong context. Does she even know what it means?
I think maybe she means blitzed?