Uthman: a Former Imam Speaks Out
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- Опубликовано: 27 авг 2024
- At the age of 11, Uthman enrolled in an Islamic boarding school and graduated as an Islamic scholar. With over 20 years of experience as an Imam, he has dedicated his life to exploring and understanding religious dynamics. He holds a Master of Arts in Muslim-Christian Relations from Hartford International University and is currently a PhD student in anthropology, focusing on Coptic Christianity. Uthman's research is a deep dive into the intricate relationship between religion and cultural identity, with a special focus on the Coptic Christian community in North America. His work is not just informed by a rich background in interfaith dialogue, but also by his personal journey that encompasses both Islamic and Christian traditions. His research interests span themes of indigeneity, migration, and the impact of conservative beliefs on religious minorities, making his work highly relevant and insightful. In addition to his academic pursuits, Uthman has been actively involved in community service, providing support and guidance to individuals navigating religious trauma and identity crises. His unique journey through different facets of faith and academia provides him with a profound perspective on religious questioning and interfaith dialogue.
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Splendid work! Heartfelt congratulations to Uthman on achieving his liberation from rubbish.
I don’t think he’s fully liberated if he still think Islam can be reformed. Naively of the highest order. Also he still hasn’t accepted the discrepancy in the history of Islam n its inception. He has a lot of work to do to achieve an objective n rational PHD on the history of Islam. Historical facts on Islam n its prophet are almost completely void and mythical n easily negated.
@@spiritedtruth3490 Indoctrination from childhood disrupts every neuron and synapse in one's brain. It takes a great deal of effort to rebuild. I have experienced this myself, and at this stage, support and encouragement will help him move forward.
Qui cherche trouve.cet imam ne save rien en islam.... peut être que maçon... alors qui cherche la vérité trouve la solution c'est la science....vers Allah....
This is sugar-coated Islam big time.
Anyone else notice that whenever Uthman got asked a difficult question about Islam, he talked round and round in circles about "nuance"? The child marriage question for instance. No amount of nuance is going to make it ok to marry a 6 year old.
That's what they do. Always talk around the topic. Or they say "but look at christianity". Or something like that. Always. And consumated at 9 years. Imagine that. While having 11 other wifes and sx slaves.
"Maybe a child wants to have a relationship" is close to if not verbatim what he said somewhere around 1:25:00
It's also a total deflection to keep going back to what he's seen in North America. No one was talking about it happening in North America. The context was Muslim majority countries.
Meh ... my islam comments get deleted about 90%. Just wanted to agree. Maybe I used a naughty word but probably not.
He is a trained Imam - so he is going to talk round in circles and avoid answering! He couldn't even denounce violence in the Quran
I find it amazing how young people who are educated turn to listen to this cult and don’t have the ability to question the evil nonsense!!!
Well, you can ask the same questions of those who watch Hagee and all the rest of the Daystar Channel fundie "churches", spewing evil nonsense!
Well, you can ask the same questions of those who watch Hagee and all the rest of the Daystar Channel fundie "churches", spewing evil nonsense!
It's because they all have the same satanic spirit.
A cult, really!.
Don't criticize what you can't understand
@@chakibb3766I won't call it a cult.. It's worse.. It's a false religion with no hope of eternal life or forgiveness of the sins of the followers.. Hell on earth, hell in eternity. Hopeless
It's hard to listen to this ex Iman talking about martyrdom of Christians in the same breath as Muslim Jehad which is suicide!
Well, historically, the islamic understanding of martyrdom was in the context of battles to spread or defend the faith. The designation of su*c*de bom*ers as martyrs was a very recent development (I believe it was legitimized by an Iranian fatwa around 1980); the fatwa was necessary because islam normally prohibits su*c*de. Christians also considered those who fell in battle for "Christendom" to be martyrs. So, there are some similarities, although obviously Christianity would never consider any sort of m*rder-su*c*de to be martyrdom.
@@ponygirl6258 Sorry but there is no comparison! Muslims died with the promise of of gratifying their lusts, promised by Mohammad! Christians laid down their lives for their fellow man to share the gospel of Christ! The definition of a martyr in any religion must come from its source! In this case Mohammed and Jesus Christ! Mohammed preached murder! Christ told Peter to put away his sword! All the Apostle's were murdered, bar one, not one picked up the sword! Mohammed preached and practiced violence! Without the sword Islam would die it is built on fear! Christ's kingdom is built on love! Different worlds!
Still not the same. Conquering someone else's land isn't martyrdom in Christianity. It's ONLY so in the context of self-defense or a defense of someone else whom you are sacrificing your life for. You CAN'T force people to convert to Christianity. It's absolutely prohibited, especially if it's by physical violence. That's not a defense of Christianity. That's demonic because it inflicts with a freedom given to a man by God.
Muslims going around the world and conquering half of the world, but dying in the process makes them nothing but murderrers who were killed in the process. Same is with colonizers or anyone who acts in such a way. It's something that in Orthodox Christian Church, for example, requires confession and repentance. And it might even cost you denial of Holy Communion for some time.
That was a twisted version of Christian martyrdom.
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@@ponygirl6258 what are you talking about, you muslim?! Christians who fall in battle are known as martyrs? Which battles did Jesus Christ fight? Which battles did the disciples of Jesus fight? What are the names of these battles, since I know the battles mohammed fought have their unique names e.g battle of Badr. Quote the Bible verses to support your claims of battles fought by Jesus and disciples, you liar!
@@ponygirl6258Baruch Hashem. I'm a Jew born March 11th in Bethlehem decades ago.
I think at heart Uthman's parents weren't the radical type. He has good memories of his childhood. His heart is light. It is clear to see that violence was not something he sought. They fell into it ...
Wrong doing is something we can all rationalize, especially when we are young.
i feel for the people that grew up with it so strongly it must suck to not know what free feels like
@@LiamGreen-vr5fg for your info despite what you say islam is proudy one God worshippers
The fact that he says that phrases have different meanings, depending on whether it’s before or after codification, is a big problem with Islam overall, as anybody can exploit it for any purpose they choose. The fact remains that it’s a warrior culture and it’s a death cult that nobody is addressing. The fact is that the Muslims have to decide if they want to live in the 7th century or the 21st century because only after that, do we know whether we can negotiate and they’re going to stick to it, or are they going to negotiate and say, but the Quran says that we can do that as a form of trickery so that we can pounce on our enemies when they least expect it, which is exactly what’s happened to Israel time after time.
so no non muslims fought in wars?
The ☪ult can't be tr u5ted.
Jew boy. Israel is on its way out.
Very well put
Agreed with the other commenter, very well put. I do wonder if there’s another way round the permanent liability that Islam seems to be: unpick the unreliable methods Muslims use to determine the Quran’s infallibility. If the premise that humans are infallible can be wedged in, it may open room for the idea of infallibility around this supposedly perfect text. Historian Tom Holland even seems to think that the Kaaba is in the wrong place and that millions of visitors have actually got it wrong
Gosh, and one wonders why the layman is so confused about the Islamic religion, when a scholar is confused, we’ve no chance 🤷♂️.
He is not confused he is in denial
It is a religion, it is made up as they go.....
@@Enduser323 denial of what?
Its easy. If god puts in hellfire permanently he is not true god
Just follow what someone does, not so much what they say.
Uthman did not answer the child marriage question..
He surely knows there was never child marriage , the Quran states clearly & against child marriage . ruclips.net/video/zr6mBlEPxW8/видео.htmlsi=z9vrr_dTgbAY_BW3
Or mention anything about hating jews. It's a huge part of the religion/problem, and he didn't address it at all in the interview.
Maybe playing taqiyya or something. He's never rejected lslam
@@debbierosenstein8157 Nor about against anyone who is not a believer of that religion .. everyone else is a kafir , the other ...in a hostile manner . There's a big issue of believers of that certain religion about how non-believers are bad and the boogeyman and the reason for all their issue and bad weather or farts of the day , not to be tolerated . No promotion of religious freedom. No tolerance of others. They want to be tolerated , but they cannot return the same favor to others . Hypocritical. Had a conversation with someone decades ago, who started on a rant saying oh all the jewish people did not show up to work on September 11th... blah blah blah. It was crazy. The whole thing of scapegoating a jewish person ... it is very discriminatory and full of nasty conspiracy theories that are dangerous . Stop making non-believers the boogeyman! It's childish and full of logical
fallacies
Its one of hugest holes of his belief.
Well honest muslims will dodge that question and random dawahs will defend it by twisting some facts.
As an ex-muslim, I find the answers at the end of the podcasts dis honest. Anyone who knows Islam and Uthman is knowledgeable, so he is trying to not give direct honest answers and rather turning around ... I left Islam for morality and I am very clear with myself about what I see wrong and immoral. I won't play around, I will answer any question directly
THANK YOU FOR UR HONESTY! I was asking myself these same questions while watching this interview. Why did he keep avoiding answering questions & beating around the bush so to speak?
@@peekaboobrown2493 My personal guess, is, he is trying to not anger the community, because he can risk his life. But, he is already at risk, because it doesn't take too much to be targeted. So, if he decided to show his face and speak, I'd rather he gives straight honest answers without sugar-coating, avoiding, embellishing a little bit. We need to say the truth to the international community to avoid the worse in the future ( we can see the signs and symptoms already in Europe )
how is this guy still Muslim after witnessing all the deception
Exactly. What's wrong with this bearded guy ??? why is he still a muzlim ???
I’d say he’s probably out, but because he’s well known in his area he has to be careful with what he says.
@@akhan8551he's probably the 'underground' type. He won't come out because if he does he's gone.
Because he read from the people not from the kuran
@@sinic1978Really? I see that you are full of stereotypes
Thank you Yasmine for this conversation. But as an ex-Moslem I have a feeling that Uthman is not hundred percent honest in his narrative. Sorry Its just a feeling that I got all through this interview.
Any way I think the first think Uthman could have done when he left Islam was to shave his beard to avoid itching his beard during this conversation!!
Thank you anyway
He is a Muslim, watch the end of the video, and shaving beard when leaving Islam is toxic, beards aren't religion symbol or any symbol...
Im giving him benefit of doubt. May be few more years later on this journey he will realise he was part of a cult
He is still Muslim but not dogmatic as before
As long as he is questioning, prayerfully he will find truth
As an ex-muslim myself, I think he is not being honest, he is sugar-coating and not answering some direct questions directly and honestly
Taqiyaa, Mutah, and Child Marriage. Gotta love Islam!
تتحدث عن اغتصاب ملايين الأطفال في الكنائس؟؟
@@selah920it happens in every religion. none of it is ok
@@LiamGreen-vr5fgother religions have no words like in islam, which is ordering to its follower to do something that out of human mind...😂
@@LiamGreen-vr5fgIn none of the other current religions (that I know of) the one role model for mankind is a man who actually did this ACCORDING to the scripture. And he's the holy role model for all to follow on his steps.
@@selah920He's talking about what goes on in Islam! The difference between Muslims and Christians are we would never defend anyone who does that to children, infact we vehemently condemn it whole heartedly! Yeshua vehemently condemns the abuse of children! Muslims should start condemning the practices that goes on in Islam!
Uthman's responses didn't appear forthright, he came across as guarded. Taqiya was evident. Good questions but answers were lacking.
Maybe trying to avoid more death threats.
I am wondering is this guy in denial of the reality of what is going on with the Islamic religion?
ask yourself that question and explain the three gods
nothing is more confusing
The feelings of muslims always get hurt when someone speaks the truth about Islam and prophet....
Hi Uthman, thank you for speaking up, but your journey on truth still has a long way to go. I would say only this much. It is not a mere coincidence that so many people are interpreting an extreme version of it.
Wtf you trying to say? Just say it.
@@ASMRyouVEGANyet If you want me to spell it out, here you go - the mainstream version Uthman claiming wrong is it's true form, and yes it is inhumane and insane. Only those who believe a diluted version are the calm people out there. So which one are you?
@@ASMRyouVEGANyet wtf are YOU trying to say, you snake?
To spell it out some more: Islam is the cause of the violence and other backwards actions by the people. Just like many religions, it generally makes good people do horrible things.
The Quran is and the Hadith are rather short and yet filled with enough poisonous garbage to cause some serious brain damage.
All who study other beliefs and expand their minds leave islam
This was an interesting interview, but I feel like him skimmed over everything problematic embedded in Islam, particularly pertaining to the Jews.
His abuse at that school reminds me of the indoctrination they do in North Korea. They tell people that their suffering is a good thing and they should be grateful for the salt grains that they have, when they're literally wondering where their next meal is going to come from and whether there are any more rats to BBQ in the empty animal shed.
Jesus Christ is the only Way, Truth and Life for all humanity 🙏 ✝️🕊
Uthman is on a journey himself, very humble and sincere person but the little Islam still left in him would let him be critical of the reality of the crimes of their prophet. He'll surely complete this journey and walk free from this slavery
Yasmine, you are so intelligent and insightful. Very prepared for your interviews
Taquiya with a modern twist??? Living in the la la land!!!!
That is the exact feeling I got listening to this so-called scholar. I can only trust EMUs (Ex Mu 51!m5). A m0d3 rate mu to me is the grass hiding the 5n ak3 (extr3 m!5t).
I guess the man just started the way out of that cult. Just need time.
Thanks for telling the truth! Greetings from Germany
Can't wait to listen to it! People like you two are giving me a hope!
Really great talk, thank you so much Yasmeena ❤ I really relate with both of you guys.
I applaud what you're trying to do but you will always have Muslims who will go back to the source, Mohammad and the Quran. They will always read about the hatred towards the Jews, Christians and Polytheists and what the Quran tells them to do to them. When you add in "I believe in Allah and Mohammad is his messenger" as the most central core tenant of Islam, the cake is already baked. The only way around this is showing them the contradictions in the Quran and that Mohammad wasn't a righteous man, a just man, a merciful man, a holy man or a prophet but just a sex maniac who killed 1000's of people because they did not believe him. But then you have an ex Muslim or you are threatened or dead.
I might applaud, too..if you had also included in your criticism, the very fundamentalist fanatical Christians, among others, who propone much the same thing! By the way, of ALL cultures and countries, those like the Caliphate of Cordoba and most of the Middle East (not to mention Palestine, itself) were open and receptive of Jews and Christians as neighbors and friends! Myths about massive killings of these populations are, for the most part, just that..myths!
I listened to half of this. I'm bored. Thank you Uthman for sentences like "how do we know if the codified version is true?" Then why do you believe in any Islamic scripture. What a bunch of nonsense.
"why believe in any Islamic scripture" great point.
A journey of thousand miles begins with a single step, buddy.
This guy will definitely be an apostate in near future.
No, other religions are not like this. The problem is that Islam is a political ideology disguised as a religion.
Thank you so much for your work🙏
Sorry for the potentially rude response but this is dishonest or maybe ignorant in a positive stance.
There were many answers mixing Islam with Muslims and cultures, and the Middle East isn't the minority, the loud voices aren't the minorities, North American Muslims are one of the minorities in the world. The loudest ones doesn't represent the issue... If you are complicit, you are part of it, you don't need to protest or share your voice in disagreement especially since it's dangerous however at least don't practice the unhealthy parts.
It's not just the scholars and "umma" that are loud, there are many mute victims, again Middle East was completely dismissed in his answers. Mentioning Japan which is extremely tiny minority, and heavily influenced by other religions was odd.
We have loud extremists here in Lebanon, and the social pressure is pretty low compared to other countries, arguably even lower than Canadian Muslims if it wasn't for the Canadian government. I guess there is a tendency to be more pious when living with non Muslims?
Islam and Muslims are more than just Quran and origins, its a culture, ideology and traditions, and it's always mixed for political standpoint, not just militant as Uthman repeated, in fact the militant purposes aren't the issue, extremism doesn't have to be ISIS or killing as he repeatedly mentioned as the "bad" parts.
The way you live, the dictation, the toll on mental health were completely ignored in this interview such as basic family traditions, beyond "killing" and "child marriage", there are many small details that affects the mental health when they add up compared to other religions.
With all due respect, I found Uthman's responses very confusing, falling back to "science" when pressured and completely going off topic, I felt similar before I became an ex-muslim.
Ideology =/= anthropology, and you can't cherry pick with an ideology... What does "I'm a muslim" means at this point?
Reforming it is now subjective and contradicts the Quran, how does anthropology fill the gaps?
Maybe it's just religion at this point and not Islam.
I used to be "Lakom Islamakum wa li Islami" but I felt like a hypocrite, and it was not easy to leave, I have my sympathies to everyone on the same path.
You can't reform an ideology with another ideology based on historical snippets, it's still an ideology, not logic like anthropology.
You can be spiritual and cherry pick what you like from any religion while at it, may as well form a new one, the present is history being written, you can't reference the past as the source of truth, we can learn, evolve and maybe leave if the name has been tarnished with atrocities, there is no shame in that. I feel that Uthman is still fearful about the idea of infidels.
Since this was related to anthropology, I found it a bit disappointing that he didn't talk about the Quran but just the Ahadiths, the fact the Quran is barely comprehensible, confusing and repetitive and every translation book/source is different is very overlooked by non native Arab "speaking" Muslims. I guess growing up in Canadian Muslim schools focused more on Feqh, hadith, tawheed etc. In the ME we focus more on tafseer and recite.
Despite his initiatives, I'm glad that his efforts are towards making the "umma" less hostile, though I'm not sure how anthropology helps as it's a humanity study, which conflates with any religion (belief etc). He should also consider that the majority of the ideas in North America comes from the Middle East, and from the human right's perspective, they're limited by the government, not their ideologies in response to child marriage. I would have agreed with him if Muslims didn't originate and immigrated in recent times. (as if they existed in NE from the beginning).
I live in many Muslims countries, and child marriage is very very frowned upon but is suddenly very tolerated and respected once someone actually does it, because religions suddenly pops up in our brain. People keep their disagreement to themselves, maybe criticize it with very close people (family) but on the outside they celebrate it or just say nothing. Ironically the most "extremist" countries are banning them like KSA recently, and yet from my experience most Muslims shame the government or stay silent, while the liberal countries (e.g Lebanon) is allowed but shamed the moment they leave the Muslim area. Lebanon is very mountainous which separates people well, and they aren't that tolerant as everyone perceives.
To the non Muslims, sorry but Islam having many branches as in equal percentage is just wrong, non-sunnies are tiny minority and the hate each other. Shia to Sunni is worse than Jews or Atheist, all the way back historically, I'm surprised that this wasn't mentioned.
This boiled my blood a little a bit, but I'm not mad at him, I grew up in KSA, in an Islamic school (no math/science) and I remember the responses were very similar to Uthman's whenever a student or a TV program mentions contradictions, "don't follow the Hadith", "Sahih bukhari only" "Don't try to read too much or understand too much, its the language of god and there a things the human brain cannot comprehend" etc
I understand his perspective is different, I love that he is challenging ideas, being in CA helps a lot as well but I still fear for him. Anthropology is humanity not just religion and it seems like he dismissed many points as "codification, who knows if it is true", it's also funny because that's what an atheist would say, but he mentioned a few times that he's a Muslim, maybe a spiritual and only the "tolerant parts" Muslim, have no problem with people who keep it to themselves, but you can potentially misinform people especially when you keep saying "I'm a Muslim and I... so that mean we...".
Sorry for my bad English ;)
why dont you just leave islam alone?
@@jj-yi1ne Why won't islam leave people alone?
Nice writeup though. I enjoyed reading it.
Very well said
@@jj-yi1ne Why didn't Islam leave the Armenians alone? Why didn't Islam leave the yazidi alone? Why didn't Islam leave the Jews alone (Banu Qurayza) 628 CE?
This guy is a university student and thinks Christians worship three gods? I don’t know. I think DEI lets anyone get scholarships and study these days. Look at Mohammed Hijab....... He studies at Oxford but his books are not even proofread. 😅
Interesting, Can't wait to hear all about him!
Coptic christians in egypt suffering today from islamists. I know a Family that flew from egypt to germany because of that. It's a very nice,vfriendly Family. They had no other choice!!
It just seems like he is beating around the bush alot of the time.
Thank you for your courage
islam can not be reformed at all
Also what Uthman is saying really does not jive well with the majority of the muslims in the world. You see, India, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Malaysia, and Indonesia combined have 1.2B muslims out of 1.5B muslims, so no, its not the branch but the whole tree. What you are saying is a small branch of Islam that does not represent Islam. Also its a not bad idea for you to join some Islamic scholars channels such as ExMuslim Sahil, Adam Seeker, Christian Prince, Sam Shamoun, Harris Sultan, CIRA international, Dr. Jay Smith and others for you to learn Islam to the core. Usually these guys lot more knowledgeable than sheikhs.
So if I want to learn about Islam , I should go to these Islam haters ? Will you take my advice now , if you want to know about Jesus man made God , you should go to Islamic scholars.
@@zarabees2123sure, go to the mafia for them telling you its very nice and beautiful and sugarcoating everything 😂
@@zarabees2123 you can also go to Jesus directly since he's not in the tomb but alive and well
My Host Uthman thank you for attending unto our OWN and having sincere conversations unto our beautiful shared "i" AM! Sincere answers will be given! Love you too! Yes, love ye all too! My Beautiful!
You good bro??
Ulthman has become the grass the snake hides in, no longer the snake? Wow, so courageous.
You can’t study the history of Coptic Christianity without seeing how false is Islam! The Coptic church has the best evidence and historical records of how brutal the religion is.
This'll be interesting, listening now!
I've saved it and subbed. I like the look of this
Thank you for your amazing work!
Great podcast! Thoughtful, erudite and open minded
I am sorry, but as an Israeli Jew, I can say with confidence, his opinion or statement is irrelevant in our region.
I don't know...I feel like your guest is very vague. But I understand he's taking a risk having this interview.
40mns into this podcast, I'm puzzled... What were the complex, nuanced ideas of all kind of people?... some examples? Sounds like structured constant, superficial chaos and constant cover up of the lack of method and reason, an environment where the teachers need to... go to an old fashioned, secular school. The more I hear about Submission and the threat to the West, the more I think someone should study how the doctrine of holy hate, lies and love of death affects muslims' propensity toward sadistic-masochistic OCD and lack of self-esteem.
What do you expect it’s run by the government. These people have been brainwashed with fear. The government and the extremists are the problem. The extremists worship the government. Like the people said in Jesus’s day, “ We have no God but Caesar”. Read Daniel 2 v. 44. The Kings of the earth have had their day.
So interesting. Thank you!
My problem with this discussion is that he runns away from the fact that the quran obbsesed with jews and how they are corrupt and wrong. this is actualy the problem with this religion
Mein Kampf is 7% Jew hatred. The Quran is 9% Jew hatred. The Quran is actually more anti-semitic than Mein Kampf.
Thank you for this interview 🙏
The Q&A section got very deflective to me, from Uthman.
Yasmin and Usman thank you very much for this talk. I have a question regarding Ms. Ayan becoming Christian. How to live spiritual/mindful life after you leave religion instead of revert back to different religion?
I’m with Aliyah! Once you say “oh well let’s not use the codification of this religion to judge the religion” you no longer have the religion. As far as I understand the whole idea and concept of Islam centers around what is codified in the Koran and the Hadith? No? Yes there are different interpretations of what is written but what’s written is what’s written. There’s also historical truths passed down. Historically we know that Muhammad and then his followers went around conquering lands and and converting people using violence.
A powerful exploring mind who refused to be boxed in a good role model for humanity and highlighting reality of religion and the problems of how people can be boxed in He motivates people to explore all people and culture s and love everyone ❤
Dude is accomplished. Well done sir!
What did he speak out on? I don’t think it was very clear.
Exactly what part wasn’t clear? Can you pinpoint the time?
It was a big waste of time listening to him. He came across as the grass (m0d 3rat3) hiding the 5nak3s (ex tr3m!5t5).
I found him to ultimately be an appologest for the bad things that go on in Muslim society directly because of the religious teachings. Its really much simpler to me. other religions also have scriptures and history and different sects. We don't find the same child marriage or fgm or holy war against everyone that is not them. There is something wrong with the religion at its core and if you want to say you disregard those parts of the teachings, then you are intact trying to be religious just not really Muslim ( which is great). At the end of the day protecting these bad ideas (even if heclaims he interpreted it differently) leaves the door wide open for the masses to take the teachings as is with no critical thinking and run with it.
You ask if Islam can be reformed. Well, we are experiencing a reformed islam based on evolution of tradition over the centuries. That happens to all religions. However, the core tenets have a lot offer in bringing together diverse communities - that was the main achievement of the Prophet's mission in his lifetime.
Keep up the good work.
Requesting you to please invite Taslima Nasreen, a legendary feminist from South Asia.
She stands alone for half a century against a billion Muslims out for her head, without her brave unapologetic bravery feminism is incomplete ...
He's well-meaning but completely ignorant to the teachings of his own religion.
I love what he says about religious people and the theology guiding right and wrong. I’m Jewish and once went shopping at zales. My husband started talking about our wedding and we ended up in a conversation with a very Christian employee who said “your God can’t be honest, because if what he says to you is truth, then my God is lying, and my God doesn’t lie.” I just stared at her
She's ignorant, we actually serve the same God, the issue is that you are still waiting for the Messiah. Real Christians think very highly of Jews and the State of Israel.
A Christian will never say what she said!!! Either she is not Christian or something fishy.
@@stygrace1530 Probably those people that don't read the Bible.
@@stygrace1530 she claimed Jesus is prophesized in genesis. That’s fine that she believes that. But when I say “we can agree to disagree,” that’s where she said went on that tangent. We live in a world with many imams, rabbis, reverends, priests, pastors, etc that will all take the same exact text and gleam a million different things from them and then preach it to congregants as if it’s gospel. I’m saying I agree with what this guy is saying about congregational leaders words holding more weight than the text itself. The best class I took in college outside my major was called “the Jewish people 1” and the tanakh (5 Books of Moses, prophets and writings) was our textbook. We read it like a story book and I learned some things I was always raised thinking was in the Bible was just stories my rabbi told haha
Who cares what he or she believes 😂🤦🏻♂️
Using scriptures to get what you want. That's what churches do very well too. It's how they play God. I know it all too well.
What church ever told you to go kill non Christians
I considered this interview a waste of my time. This Muslim Brotherhood Imam is what he is - a Muslim Brotherhood Imam who is going to enforce sharia law.
There is no extremism. Islam is Islam - as delineated in Islamic doctrine.
Poor Uthman. Islam in any form other than an imaginary form is super hard to defend on ethics. Even for those Muslims trying to be good, this goes against Islam and the ideology forces good people to lie to defend it. So sad😢
Interesting conversation. Thank you
If "god" is infinite, which he/she/it must be, then it must also be anything anytime anywhere. When we understand that, we can let go of all "beliefs", and that brings us to FREEDOM!
When we reach that place, god can come in and shine through us.🙏
I thought It was Sheikh Footnote Uthman
Me too 😂😂😂😂
Shake tomato sauce is in too deep.
Wow he went back and got his education? What a man, great man, well done 👍🏿
This man is so conflicted, and understandably so, because he knows he must fear the Islamists. He never criticized Islam, and instead he just danced around the panel's legitimate concerns, by talking about the nuances. He kept repeating that the opinions he was expressing were not that of an imam, but that of an Islamic scholar or as a researcher. The Islamists only care what comes out of his mouth. I believe he’s sincere, but expecting the listeners to accept a comparative analysis of how Islam behaves differently in different countries, or expressing utter amazement that women and children are being abused, and that the Koran is what the men say gives them the power and authority to do so, without any repercussions, completely destroyed his credibility in my estimation. It was a lame comment, and his affect was so condescending. It would be far better if he said “no comment”, or contact me privately, but to declare yourself in total denial of this very obvious reality, from someone who has academic scholarship in this area, is beyond laughable. Several times he said he could run circles around people who want to challenge his knowledge, and I am always suspicious of someone who has to keep saying they can do something they’ve been trained to do; either he can but has low self esteem, or he cannot and he feels he needs to keep convincing others that he can. My take is that he’s not comfortable yet with how to be true to himself, true to those who look up to him, and how not to get himself killed. He’s carrying out a delicate balancing act, and not handling questions properly is causing him to backpedal. That said, if he’s to be a bridge to some future reformation, better that he be on good terms with everyone. That doesn’t preclude him from admitting he can’t answer certain questions, or can’t make certain comments in the public forum, in order to preserve his integrity, rather than giving lame answers. Because he’s far from stupid, I thought it was disingenuous of him to pretend to answer the question, by avoiding the question. That’s what politicians do, which is what Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau is famous for. I was impressed with him, until that woman asked him that question at the end. Kudos to Yasmine for twice pointing out that he’s not answering her question. That will keep me tuning in to her interviews, because it’s a sign of her integrity and devotion to why she’s doing this. He also had a habit of saying some questions were easy to answer, and it was those questions that were the ones he really didn’t answer to my satisfaction. I would have preferred to hear him speak the truth, that the manner in which Islam conducts itself is repugnant on many levels, that Islam is a religion of domination, of using force and deception to trick the enemy, and to attack its enemies while their guard is down. If he’s too afraid to say those things, then try not to say things that are blatantly false, because it not only makes you look like an idiot, but more importantly, it gives your haters ammunition to denounce you as being a mole for the Islamists. If that happens, your integrity is toast, as far as being any type of a future bridge, is concerned .
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12:41 😢 this Imam never get formal education ,so sad . it's a big trap For imam in ,my country also my imam are left islam by mind but doing as job.and also afraid of closed Islamic circle.
Uthman, kids today are too spoiled. Not having adversary to over comes makes them weak. They'll become entitled people with no manners or consideration for other people.
Yeah, I appreciate his refusal to place his children in the harmful environment of a madrassa, but you can't and shouldn't cater to the whims of your children.
Doesn’t Islam pretend, that the only true religion is Islam. They are taught so since the early childhood, for the Quran says so! May God be with you! We on our side pray that the Lord opens the eyes of many sincere Moslems and may they become hungry for knowing the truth🙏👆❣️
The conquest of new lands is not supposed to stop--just change their tactics. Sheep wakeup wolves arrived
hmm uthman i feel like you should learn about judaism, i have a feeling you'll like it
Gimme that ol' time religion. (the original)
Who needs a knock off?
other muslims have said that if islam went through reformation to divest it of the violent and medieval unacceptable aspects , it would then be able to honestly proclaim itself as a religion of peace and that this is the only way foreward
The guy is a former imam and I am a former husband and at the same time a former Queer ,so I need a chance to talk about it ,should me and the former imam be given the same stage to inform the world about our experiences
We have 37 Qurans😳😳😳
Saudi narrowed it down to 35 and then down to one. They also created the noble Koran with parentheses at points of radicalization phrases.
Great guest.
Yet still he believes and skirts around difficult subjects ... Muhammad " marrying" Mary the Copt ? ( who was his sex slave !)
"Different" forms of islam ? Yes , who are all against each other .
He seems reluctant to see the real problems: islam itself, it's texts , it's originator it's easy earliest beliefs, it's clear self contradictions .
People don't leave because of the "misunderstandings " of islam by leaders; they leave because of the Qur'an and muhamamads example.
The " Core Tenets" are nonsense you can't rebuild on a shabby foundation.
Frankly, pleasant and kind as he appears, he is stuck in a cycle of cognitive dissonance and sophistry . As the programme continued I lost patience with his intellectual gymnastics and found it difficult to continue.
I hear his views from " reformist" friends of mine that " this isnt real islam" ....To which I say " fantastic, you go and tell the 99% of the Muslim world and 1400 years of scholarship where they are mistaken and come back to me !"
Islam cannot be reformed . You cannot reform damaged roots which were toxic at the beginning.
what is Islam actually about? positive aspects of this religion etc? All I ever hear is the negatives. There has to be something appealing
There isn’t. Read some of my lengthy posts for more truths about Islam. Try listening to the Christian Prince's videos. Also the Son of Hamas, Mosab Hasan Yousef's videos.
sanctifying rape, wife beating , multiple wives , easy divorce, theft and holy war ....if you view those as positives !
If you hear anything good be sure it’s a lie
Whooooo I’m the 500th liked! 🎉
Thx!
Sorry, but the fact that Uthman currently considers himself an academic and is not an Imam, does not give him more credibility. He still speaks as a believing Muslim man who sticks to trying to justify and deny the bad part of Islam.in my opinion he is more dangerous now❗️
I felt a lot of the optimism at the start of the video, then he began to answer questions in tongues and wouldn't even confront the 6yo child marriage dilemma... many sane and rational people would really struggle to justify how a man in his 40s marrying a 6yo can in any way be excused. It should be easy to condemn this.
We are constantly told that the extremists are just the vocal minority, but I am less and less convinced by this.
Man in his 50s…
How can this guy even defend this prophet of theirs
Nice man, however on the Coptic comments, he still trying to understand Coptic culture or Christian theology. He thinks about finding holes on the theology and all this talk, about how he can just twist it, to me it demonstrates his flawed understanding of what the study of theology is and what meaningful arguments, debates are about, so I still see a lot of the confrontational, polemical roots, circular reasoning used in Islam.
Same. I think the apologist within him is still very much alive. I also don't understand how someone who's never travelled to Egypt can become an expert on Copts.
I stopped at 52:00 because "I'm still a Muslim" summarize the previous part. Jasmine you often seem to have the courage to face death threats but not the courage to be clear with bad ideas by amicable people🙂.
You're an _ex_ Muslim, aren't you?
And you didn't say a thing (until 52 min) about the problems of wishy washy Islam here represented by the guy: first, it's irrelevant; second, it's never clear about the basic principle: is Mohammed the best example to follow in words and deeds, or not? If yes, you have a problem with non Muslims; if not, you have a problem with consistent Muslims...
Love you and your first type of courage☝️ though😊
Observant Christians, Jews and Muslims have very much in common, in that they share very many values and beliefs.
The people of modern day 'Western' secular democratic Nations have broken away from their religious foundational values, beliefs and traditions, and are therefore much further removed from Christianity than Christianity is to Judaism and Islam.
No girl, not so many people will get what happend to him. Now people are smarter and they read and learn themselves. Specially converts. They study the whole thing before they make up their mind to convert. Some born Muslims are studying & learning and answering their own questions.
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In Indonesia, hundreds of Millions indoctrination like that. You right, the culture, family, sholat with jamaah, celebrate fasting/eid fitr, all these make one Hardi to "logout" from this religion
This isn't just Islam. Christian preachers do this too.
We knew it! We knew it. This must have had happened. Thank you brother. It must be a very intense awakening inside you. That you decided to come out to talk about it. God bless you.
Islamotruma spread the word
Honestly speaking, there are not too many education options for Anglo/English speaking immigrant families in Province of Quebec
ALL Parochial, private and homeschooling schools need to be entirely outlawed across canada
Perhaps it can be 'hybrid'...after all, indigenous students should receive at least 50% time Western schooling and 50% traditional education.
May it never be!
fascist. u idiots support this type of behavior by giving bad solutions
Let's indocrinate kids to wosrship deep and woke state!! What is a brilliant idea!
I would rather not have the government the only option for educating my children. Nazi Germany did that and also required participation in the Hitler Youth....so they could indoctrinate the youth.
I don't believe Islam need be reformed. What if reformed, yet be disqualified before God what's the used. Even me as a Christian i used to look deep into what God wanted me to through his word. Not just accep what ever fellow Christians say. What if even in Christianity communities they reformed to a general acceptable rules but be disqualified in God's eyes.There is one and only one truth. That is through Jesus Christ.
When you go to Egypt, also go see the ex-Muslims who converted to Christian’s sentenced to huge prison terms.
Interesting trayectory. For me the main thing is we do not allow violence and opression. If you call your spiritual life something that includes a choice of a particular religion, fine. As long as you are real and do not worship anyone or any detail in particular. That is keeping you stuck and unclear about life.